The Goddess will be merciful if we manage to sacrifice enough virgins to her in the aftermath.
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The Goddess will be merciful if we manage to sacrifice enough virgins to her in the aftermath.
Really bookends this whole America thing.
I think best case scenario here is an Adams/Jefferson situation where they both manage to die mad but also be a little impressed that the other managed to outlive them.
Iām not entirely sure he deserves to learn some good news every day for the rest of his life.
You know who else is always whining about freedom? Criminals. Somebody lock this man up and throw away the key before his libertine lifestyle pollutes the blood of the nation.
The only reason Biden was a significant political actor at all was because Obama threw the center a bone by selecting him as VP. This whole Biden was secretly FDR bullshit that the party pushed only drives people that actually want an FDR up the wall.
His net favorability rating is at -15 which is three points below Elon Musk, 12 points below AOC, 15 below Pritzker, and 22 points below Sanders.
Personally, I see the lack of learning from a a bunch of well-funded astroturf campaigns trying to give the crown to an already unpopular made man.
AOC and Pritzker get thrown around a lot. Iām holding out hope for an outsider since corporate money seems to rot the souls of everyone inside it for too long.
Iām not sold on anyone in particular yet. It should be obvious that a lot of people wonāt vote for Newsom though so the only reason to support him years before anyoneās formally thrown their hat in the ring is to signal you also want to throw people under the bus for no good reason.
Someone a large portion of the potential voting base hasnāt told you they wonāt vote for already because theyāre going to sell out them or their friends, maybe? Idk. Just a thought.
You can choose now not to drink any poison! Why do Democrats keep going back to their abusers? Itās a sickness.
If the only āpurity testā youāre willing to entertain is did you vote for our candidate that lost the popular vote then youāre going to keep losing elections.
Iām just going to take this opportunity to shout into the void, āWhy the fuck are we paying Lev Parnasās kid to do propaganda for us?ā
Around this time we also had tremendously evil leadership that normalized fascism at home and abroad but in a folksier way and instead of hanging him and his allies we decided to invite all dozen of them into our coalition.
I think the broad left doesnāt realize is that right wing influencers are allowed to criticize their party on occasion and that theyāre dong so trying to push the country in their direction.
The psychological damage Putin has done to partisan Democrats is crazy. Early in the current phase of the war I was getting called a Putin puppet on the regular for suggesting that we shouldnāt bet that they stripped all the copper wiring out of their nukes.
Iām old enough to remember when the same people mad at this post were mad at people asking for a vague policy platform on a website.
Does anyone even care what words mean anymore? Has anyone ever seen a group of people chanting for roads? Bidenās definitionally the most establishment politician of my life and everyone fucking hated it.
We just tried that plan and it didnāt exactly pan out like you thought it would. Iād agree in that abstract that itās not the most salient issue to voters but that becomes less true as you guys choose to make it a litmus test for who isnāt bought out by wealthy donors and willing to aid fascists.
Iām choosing to believe that a lot of that is inorganic for my sanity, but yeah, it is deeply troubling how fucking stupid everyone seems to be getting.
Never been more obvious how desperately Democratic politicians want a base of slack-jawed sycophants like their opponents have.
My point is a lot of how people identify themselves is kayfabe that eventually twists the meaning of words. A centrist think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. They have an initiative that rebranded from Neoliberal Project to the Center for New Liberalism after neoliberal became a dirty word.
Heās one of many centrists from a much more radical family and he defended Louis Farrakhan back when it was in vogue.
I miss the strong Republican Party where respectable bipartisans would say things like āThe Cracker Barrel logo change is a distraction from our efforts to incarcerate or kill every poor person.ā
I just donāt understand what pro-Israel Democrats think the plan is here anymore. Twist everybodyās arms forever into positions their voters hate? Try to salvage Israelās reputation as they get even more normal?
Bill in Dr. Evil voice: You may think youāve won by nationalizing my company Donald but now that the swampās back in DC the value of my nets has skyrocketed. Trump: I am hereby seizing half of this dorkās nets to Make America Healthy Again. Bill: What no. You canāt do that. Trump: Bye, bye nerd.
The problem is that all these terms have technical definitions but politics is vibes based and everyoneās jockeying for power. The ācentristā fascists are just trying to make racism the median position. A lot of āsocial democratsā are just people saying the left went too far on X and yelled at me.
We just tried this under a Democratic president like they had during the Civil Rights Era and the result has been a massive shift in public opinion and a few legislators changing their minds way too late. Non-violence only works when the government is actually sensitive to public opinion.
Not to prove Miller right, but the other thing Liberals need to get through their skulls is the appropriate response to deranged lunatics that will stop at nothing to kill you and cannot be reasoned with.
The thing we have to keep in mind is that the Cold War and the bipartisan push to the right has deliberately made us all functionally illiterate. If Bill Clinton is super liberal, and Barrack Obama is a scary socialist, then I guess Jesse Jackson mustāve ran as a Maoist like me.
The riff raff couldnāt possibly get mad that nothing ever gets done in DC. Judging by all the gentlemanly slavers I know, people hate it when we change things.
I thought I had a caffeine problem before the 6 foot wide four door coffee pot rolled up next to me.
And Israelis support most of his actions. Youāre not going to ever see the situation as it is until you get in your head that heās not an aberration over there. Heās the median voter.
Netanyahu is arguably still near the center of modern Israeli politics despite his personal scandals and monstrous policy.Anybody suggesting otherwise is either willfully lying or in deep denial of what Israel actually looks like.
The problem is that we havenāt done enough to reach across the aisle to the 99.5% Hitler voters. We need to throw them another bone and sacrifice the under 20% Hitler supporters. The math on that will surely work out for us next time.
I wanted to vote for 5% Hitler but then the nice good Republican lady on TV from the non-criminal administration convinced me he was too radical to win.
I understand this is an absurd mantra for always voting for Democrats no matter what they believe in but does it always have to be 99% Hitler? Canāt the hypothetical be 70% Hitler or 40% Hitler for a change? It kind of just sounds like they prefer 99% Hitler over them at this point.
If you want to be a serf under feudal lords I have some great news for you. Politicians jobs are to serve their constituents. When they do that they tend to win and when they donāt (often because theyāre bribed to take unpopular positions) they tend to lose. Itās really that simple.
Donāt vote for a Patrick Bateman type that exclusively wants to murder vulnerable people and risk getting even worse authoritarians.
Do with it what you want. Iām just pointing out the problem.
I donāt know where this whole turn happened exactly, but Iām guessing it was around when I disrespected the troops or pointed out that torture is very much a war crime. The knee jerk defense of an institution with an authoritarian right wing culture is the problem Iām pointing to.
Weāve permitted a culture of pointless cruelty, abuse, and lawlessness to fester and weāre shocked now that itās coming home.
How would you define Abu Ghraib? What do you think happened at Guantanamo Bay?
Yeah. Iām not a serious person. Itās grown men I saw crying repeatedly to a Lee Greenwood song that are serious people.
Well from my perspective the War on Terror happened and everybody decided to start sucking off the troops while they were actively committing war crimes. I donāt think it would prevent what is happening now, but more Democrats need to prepare for the reality of a lawless hostile occupying army.
The problem is that Starmer is as much of a silver spooned fascist as Trump and people feel bad acknowledging it because heās ostensibly from a center left party.
Itās actually a huge problem that a bunch of Democrats have jujitsuād their way into the position that the U.S. military is a bipartisan institution that would never do anything illegal.
It wouldāve been rad, and the worst people in the country wouldāve been furious about it.
You mean the guy that rolled over immediately and has been sucking off his favorite pedophile ever since? That Lindsey Graham? Iām no longer asking. You guys need to have all your brains donated to science until we figure out what the hell is going on.
I swear Blue MAGA is like three years from making this argument about Adolf Hitler.
I think youāve driven yourself insane online whining about the idea that something thatās never happened to you and likely never will might happen at some point in the future if the kids donāt get off your lawn.
This is just an elaborate ass covering exercise from center-right oligarchs that have infected the Democratic Party and sapped of it all the core beliefs that made it popular. They couldnāt possibly be sucking the life out of my party, itās Tumblrās fault or something.
Pretty much gave the game away with making Overton window a no no term. Like Iām struggling to imagine a single voter anybody using that term would alienate in any way whatsoever. The only reason to try to stop people from using it is to shut down debate and entrench the already powerful.
Yes. We do need action. Which is the whole reason trying to impose Reaganās 11th commandment on Democrats is completely counterproductive.
Thereās absolutely no need at this point to unite behind or avoid criticizing anyone. The party needs to have some tough conversations about how to win again and this just strikes me as an attempt to shut down that debate before it actually begins.
āEveryone that has a disagreement with a politician I like is probably a secret Republican.ā -me a non-purist
Cool. Feel free to do your anarchist thing. Iām going to keep advocating for treating fascists the way they treat the rest of us because I think that has a better chance of working.
Are we really going to argue that Allied countries didnāt get more authoritarian to defeat the Axis? Allowing escalation dominance from the right has been self-defeating my entire life but a tit for tat strategy has proven effective in teaching bad actors how to behave.
Iām just going to butt in here on this old joke thatās still getting attention for some reason to point out that I doubt my opinion on Lenin is going to please either of you, but my joke point that we need to get more authoritarian is genuine. Anything else is tacit surrender.
I donāt know think Democrats are ready for it but weāre going to have to get at least as mean as the fascists and thatās going to have to involve defunding the PC Police.
My neighbors are going to hate me when President Pritzker begins the show trials.
Iām sorry that friend of yours shot John Lennon but you shouldnāt have taken it out on the country your entire life.
Lol. You sound like your kids took your keys four years ago and you still havenāt figured it out.
Must be really affirming for you guys to have thrust 3 senile morons on us. It mustāve felt good to have that kind of representation.
My bad you must be one of those Zoomer deadheads that totally exist. Get back to your home grandpa. Nobody cares to hear your stories about all the times youāve fucked the country over.
Thereās nothing on the fence about seeing your entire generation of presidents as a bunch of progressively declining international embarrassments. Nobody in history has been worse at democracy than yāall. People donāt even believe in it anymore because of how much youāve shit the bed over and over.
To quote one of the worst pieces of shit this party has excreted so far, āWatch me.ā
Yeah and Iāve watched the wretched detritus of the worst generation eat shit over and over again. Weāre actually interested in winning and itād be a whole lot easier if certain people knew when to get out of the way and shut the fuck up.
The worst generation of Americans probably shouldnāt have cut it repeatedly.
Which kind of state do you think I live in Mr. Brainiac? Iāll come back when your generation āquitsā and we rip out of your hands the power youāve been clinging to while shitting the bed electorally your entire adult lives. Thanks again for leaving us a far shittier country than you were handed.
Iāve voted for Democrats all my life but changed my registration to independent recently solely because of how much people like you and the rest of the braindead geezers have driven my party into the ground.
People think Iām just being mean and holding a grudge against Lincoln Project types and old law and order Democrats, but actually I just remember that weāre reaching the logical end point of those dumbasses evil decisions.
can also run this backwards: we watched the development of mass incarceration, waves of repression of anti-police brutality protests, and a spiraling post 9/11 surveillance and detention apparatus. we shouldn't wonder how a president in 2025 could decide the guys with guns can do whatever they want
Iām planning on dying angry that Joe actually managed to convince himself that he was healing the soul of America by fiddling while Rome burned.
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It is a little funny that everyone in the regime implicitly understands the head honcho canāt be the face of machismo because heās too busy rage tweeting Taylor Swift while listening to Cats as heās caking on makeup for 2-3 hours a day.
Iām willing to pretend sheās a real journalist if Israel is willing to treat her like a real journalist.
I really shouldnāt have to explain why war criminals walking around free while grannies are getting arrested wearing āI support the folks that threw some paint on some planesā is a bad outcome for everyone even if you vehemently disagree with their politics.
Gotta give Matt Yglesias preemptive credit for that one. Reading his takes does usually put me in a pretty illiberal mood.
I think Kristolās ideals lie with the rule of law and the constitution generally but I donāt think heās a big believer in democracy. Maybe he sees the error of his ways, but he also created the permission structure for ICE so I donāt trust any Kristol backed candidate to actually get rid of it.
To be clear, I do think that Kristol has some principles but I think heās also accustomed to a position as party Brahmin leading the sheep and that heās trying to position himself in a similar way as a Dem now that heās burnt his bridges in the GOP. Itās worth remembering not to trust these guys IMO
That was Bill Kristolās old job! Maybe it doesnāt matter right now but I take Kristolās transformation as more cynical maneuvering now that heās no longer welcome in his old elite circles than a genuine attempt at moral redemption.
Someone tried asking Grok about this and it started singing Daisy Bell.
I donāt know why our party is like this. So many people are constantly on an inquisition against Democrats that maybe missed an election because they criticized an unpopular leader a decade later but Adam Kinzinger gets universal praise after voting for Trump twice and other Republicans before him.
If you want an educated middle class party to work on its own you have to, yāknow, create an educated middle class that makes up the majority of the population.
Obama was the left candidate in the party in 2008 and lost support tacking to the center. We criticize decisions from AOC and Bernie too because we know that politicians are supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. Nothing we say comes close to the lies Clinton fanatics pushed in 08.
Personally, Iām looking for the next AG among the Five Families. Itās not fair to let Republicans do all the crime and get all the sandwiches too.
And brother, the guy that wrote the pledge of allegiance was a socialist. MLK was a democratic socialist. The last time the Democratic Party was electorally dominant it cribbed all its policy from socialists. Sorry Senator McCarthy, this shit doesnāt work anymore.
No kidding weāre in a contest for power. Thatās why this thread started with you shitting on the left for what you guys are more guilty of. Thatās why you cry that the partyās deeply unpopular leaders canāt be criticized. Winning is secondary to maintaining the failing status quo.
Itās impossible to improve an institution if criticism against it is verboten. A DSA member is currently leading the largest 2nd largest caucus of Democrats in the House. Either the establishment will get with the program or theyāll keep having far bigger hissy fits than the left ever has like in NY
Uh huh. Thats probably why āyourā partyās approval is in the gutter and weāre commenting under an article about a Democratic Socialist that trounced your faction of the party and is now running against two elite funded third party spoiler candidates from your faction.
Sure, but I will point out this is the problem Iām talking about. Voters have legitimate grievances with the party and instead of answering them the party line is always some variation of plugging their ears, shouting that you donāt need them, or blaming entire groups of people after the fact.
Blue MAGA partisans are people too blinded to reality by treating politics like sports teams. Like the reality that Trump was the least popular president ever until Biden came around who constantly gaslit the public and was very ideologically rigid.
You guys like to blame the voters instead of politicians ideological rigidity into unpopular positions. Blue MAGA partisans have dragged just about every constituent part of the old Obama coalition and shockingly it keeps shrinking. Anything to avoid looking in the mirror I guess.
Iāve protest voted once in my life even though Democrats have lost my state every election of my life. This cudgel thatās only ever wielded against the left might play well to online partisans but it doesnāt actually fix any underlying issues killing a party I want to actually win for a change.
Iām talking about the centrist faction of the party. People donāt like to hear it but Donald Trump has always been very unpopular, Democrats are playing on easy mode electorally, and theyāve still dropped the ball 2/3 times since Obama. People obviously donāt like whatās being sold right now.
Dawg, yāall lost to pedophile game show host twice now. Youād think youād be smart enough to not to be making this argument anymore.