This is the kind of thing that would be immediately obvious if you’ve ever spoken with a “low information voter.” Democrats didn’t go too far left. The people on the bottom thought they went too soft against the people on top.
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And in other news, water is wet. I know anecdotal data is just that, but there comes a point when the anecdotes add up.
jul 17, 2025, 8:01 pm • 0 0 • view
It's the genocide, stupids.
jul 17, 2025, 3:29 pm • 5 0 • view
It'd be nice if there were a way to punish people who "skipped" the election. They are the worst people imaginable.
jul 17, 2025, 2:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Wow. How broken are you, dude?
jul 17, 2025, 3:48 pm • 3 0 • view
Weird, maybe they could have voted about it
jul 17, 2025, 6:17 pm • 0 0 • view
And who’d guess, it turns out “inequality IS at the heart of America’s problems and health care SHOULD be available to everyone”. Why can’t we all understand both these things are true and bots those who want to solve these problems.
jul 17, 2025, 3:50 pm • 1 0 • view
...and for whatever reason the even more in the bag for billionaires Republicans don't get the same FU treatment as Democrats do. Fair? Grotesquely no. But that's the lay of the land right now.
jul 17, 2025, 3:39 pm • 1 0 • view
It's so glaringly obvious that it hurts to look at.
jul 17, 2025, 2:16 pm • 4 0 • view
Side "fuck you" to anyone who sat out the 2024 election, though
jul 17, 2025, 2:17 pm • 20 0 • view
If you think enough people sat out to make a difference and at the same time blatantly ignore the election interference and admission by the likes of Musk well….
jul 17, 2025, 2:23 pm • 2 1 • view
True, but we are in a war and we can't have people opting out
jul 17, 2025, 2:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Look around at how many people are opting out right now lol. Most don’t realize what’s even happening and most still have the upmost confidence in the upcoming elections like based on fucking what?
jul 17, 2025, 2:30 pm • 0 0 • view
I mean if it makes you feel better to spread misinformation
jul 17, 2025, 3:44 pm • 2 0 • view
If you want to post up data that refutes mine you are free to do so.
jul 17, 2025, 3:45 pm • 2 0 • view
Oh, I don't dispute the data. You just provide no evidence that it's Musk interference or anything other than voter drop-off or voters being removed from polls. With the implication that the results are fraud. You clearly don't live here or if you do you don't pay attention to the audits.
jul 17, 2025, 3:47 pm • 2 0 • view
Oh audits. Gotcha. All is right as rain. How are those audits going for the DOD and the rest of government for example? Why you’re hung up on my comment about musk is strange to me. Musk/ Trump clearly insinuated the election was taken care of. I didn’t suggest I had “proof”.
jul 17, 2025, 4:04 pm • 0 0 • view
You Blue MAGA are no different than Trump's followers.
jul 17, 2025, 4:10 pm • 1 0 • view
If you're blind and have brain damage, absolutely
jul 17, 2025, 4:25 pm • 1 0 • view
LOL
jul 17, 2025, 4:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Whatever you need to tell yourself 🤷🏻♂️ you’re the one white knighting for Elon while propping up those that helped get us here in the first place. Fuckin idiot.
jul 17, 2025, 4:12 pm • 1 0 • view
LOL
jul 17, 2025, 4:16 pm • 0 0 • view
And you’re a conspiracy addled lunatic who will believe anything you’re told as long as it makes people you don’t like look bad. So yes, as bad as MAGA.
jul 17, 2025, 6:01 pm • 2 0 • view
I mean, if my party just got trounced in a national election, I would listen to our members when they explain why, rather than telling them “FU,” but I guess that’s why I’m not a six-figure political consultant.
jul 17, 2025, 3:48 pm • 10 0 • view
I'm so curious how so many people think they can win in the future with a coalition of only people who voted for the losing candidate in 2024.
jul 17, 2025, 8:14 pm • 5 0 • view
I think the issue is that CFPB style stuff is the only thing Democrats can do within the framework they had, besides prosecution, and it's pretty bland stuff. I think aggressive prosecution will be the answer to this. Dems ought to find the fraud that Trump didn't.
jul 17, 2025, 4:47 pm • 1 0 • view
They actually thought Trump would go after the ppl on the top??
jul 17, 2025, 3:48 pm • 0 0 • view
The article is about people who don’t vote. They thought *no one* would go after the people at the top. This is quite a common sentiment from non-voters every year. They’re also not wrong; at least in degree.
jul 17, 2025, 4:01 pm • 2 0 • view
Making the average American confused about the difference between the "culture-war left" and the "economic left" is a project that the centrist and right-wing media/political/business-class have succeeded at because it serves all of their purposes.
jul 17, 2025, 3:41 pm • 2 0 • view
That’s hooey. That’s a get out of jail free card they give themselves for unexamined bigotry & misogyny. Harris talked endlessly about both. Ppl didn’t listen cause she was a woman of color. Cause objectively Trump was orders of magnitude WORSE, night and day, on both. We shouldn’t entertain BS.
jul 17, 2025, 2:19 pm • 13 0 • view
If we take this at face value, how do you account for AOC being so popular, as a woman of color, among a voting block that is bigoted and misogynist?
jul 17, 2025, 2:36 pm • 17 0 • view
They should have voted to empower her then
jul 17, 2025, 3:43 pm • 0 0 • view
So she’s won nationally? She’s won…outside of Brooklyn? Funny. I missed that.
jul 17, 2025, 2:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Also did Hillary Clinton win a national election? She was a senator for a state she wasn’t really a resident of until she wanted to run. Then she was Secretary of State which is an appointment. Harris I guess was on the Biden ticket but I don’t think she mattered for the win so she hasn’t either.
jul 17, 2025, 3:41 pm • 0 0 • view
AOC hasn’t run statewide. She has no national constituency that doesn’t mirror her home district. Hillary had broad support amongst all kinds of Dem voter blocs. As evidenced by how well she did in ‘08. Is AOC as popular among black voters in SC as Biden was? Or Hillary in 16? I’m not so sure.
jul 17, 2025, 5:07 pm • 0 0 • view
I like AOC. A lot. But being from Arkansas, southern voters, especially voters of color, felt she got them. Bernie was a hard pass amongst that constituency. We refuse, generally, to talk about just how much the “rigged” talk is from ppl who refuse to legitimize black voters rejection of Bernie.
jul 17, 2025, 5:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Did Hillary win?
jul 17, 2025, 5:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Why are you insisting a candidate who can’t win is the candidate we should be praising?
jul 17, 2025, 5:12 pm • 1 0 • view
But this is kind of Knox’s point? There tends to be a diff btwn “I like the hypothetical idea of this woman running” and “oh wait I have to vote for a lady?” I’m old enough to remember when ppl loved HRC running State & she got girlboss-memed all over. They switched up quick when she Actually Ran.
jul 17, 2025, 3:57 pm • 1 0 • view
🎯 Exactly and times like a million!!!!
jul 17, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
I’ve voted for women many many times. I’ve actually voted for women in the presidential election the two times they were the option. Elizabeth Warren is my senator and I vote for her. I’d like a leftist primary against her but that’s my thinking on every democrat even the ones I don’t hate.
jul 17, 2025, 5:04 pm • 1 0 • view
I voted for Clinton in 2016. She’s unlikable to normies and a terrible candidate that the voters didn’t want. She lost to an unknown first term senator her first run in the primary and then to a buffoon her second. Maybe we shouldn’t listen to people who can’t win?
jul 17, 2025, 4:57 pm • 2 0 • view
She’s indisputably more popular than most Dems. There’s polling to support this. The party has lost its base aside from the brain dead “blue no matter who” zombies such as yourself. There’s a reason they’re still less popular than Trump.
jul 17, 2025, 3:06 pm • 5 0 • view
She is? They love her on Fox? In San Antonio? Birmingham? Baton Rouge? Pensacola? In Indianapolis? Or…ppl who’d be at home in Brooklyn, but don’t live there, like her from whatever state they DO live in? See the difference?
jul 17, 2025, 5:11 pm • 0 0 • view
So what’s your solution? Run fascist literally candidates and keep moving the Overton window right? Keep chasing nonexistent swing republican? The Democratic strategy doesn’t work. Economic populism would actually attract those voters.
jul 17, 2025, 5:13 pm • 1 0 • view
Your buddy KinRussianBot blocked me… counting down to you blocking me in 3-2-
jul 17, 2025, 5:17 pm • 0 0 • view
The Russian bot stuff is the “Soros funded” of the Blue MAGA.
jul 17, 2025, 5:22 pm • 1 0 • view
Cmon. His name was bot. It was kinda funny. And what a snowflake.
jul 17, 2025, 5:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah once you start to call people “russian bots” simply because they don’t agree with your blue maga shit you’re actually too stupid to bother with.
jul 17, 2025, 5:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Dude was gone before I did that. And it was a joke, a goof on his name. Lighten up.
jul 17, 2025, 5:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Harris did everything that you wanted. Fascist border bill, shunned the left, supported Israeli genocide, campaigned with a Cheney, didn’t support Medicare for all. She still lost. I’m sorry but it’s not simply her gender or race. Dems need to offer more than “we aren’t as bad as those guys” to win.
jul 17, 2025, 5:18 pm • 1 0 • view
If you believe that then you clearly don’t believe in Equality or LGBTQ rights or Abortion or legal immigration or a well run economy - because Trump very plainly wanted to & is destroying democracy, corruptly taking in millions & so on, so not insuring he lost with your vote is a vote for it.
jul 17, 2025, 5:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Again do you understand the electoral college or no?
jul 17, 2025, 6:07 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m didn’t vote for Trump. Save that’s shot for people who did
jul 17, 2025, 5:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Anyone that didn’t vote for Harris….voted for Trump. Anyone talking abt genocide that didn’t vote for Harris - voted for genocide. They voted knowing not voting for her might help him win. And. He was explicit that he’d turn Gaza into a parking lot. So refusing to prevent that was voting for it.
jul 17, 2025, 6:00 pm • 1 0 • view
Why do you think she's popular among that voting block?
jul 17, 2025, 2:55 pm • 2 0 • view
Shut the fuck yo with this identity politics crap. I didn’t vote for Harris but guess what? I still voted for a woman of color. De La Cruz is both and a socialist. I’ll always vote socialist over democrat.
jul 17, 2025, 2:24 pm • 3 0 • view
So you didn’t care about Democracy and were happy Trump won. Got it. Tell me more about how little you care about the rights of all Americans, which are now forcefully being taken away.
jul 17, 2025, 2:26 pm • 2 0 • view
jul 17, 2025, 2:33 pm • 5 0 • view
Actually I live in a blue district, in a blue city, in a blue county in a blue state. My vote for POTUS was irrelevant. I’m not going to cast a vote for someone I don’t support when my vote didn’t matter anyway.
jul 17, 2025, 2:28 pm • 3 0 • view
Maybe you liberals need to take a civics class and learn about the electoral college 🤷🏻♂️
jul 17, 2025, 2:29 pm • 2 0 • view
Idk my conversations with low info voters have all been pretty sad.They have been thoroughly manipulated into a wide range of falsehoods and a lot of them seem to dislike the AOC types. But I think betting on the left will likely generate more excitement at this point and that could override misinfo
jul 17, 2025, 2:25 pm • 5 0 • view
truthout.org/articles/san...
jul 17, 2025, 5:23 pm • 1 0 • view
inequality.org/facts/wealth...
jul 17, 2025, 5:22 pm • 0 0 • view
Many things can be true at once, but "Tax the Rich & Big Corporations more!" is a huge winner. For good reason.
jul 17, 2025, 5:22 pm • 0 0 • view
Another poll @mattyglesias.bsky.social and his ilk will ignore. This type of popularism doesn't help the wealthy or well connected.
jul 18, 2025, 2:24 am • 0 0 • view
ah yes that’s exactly what Latinos For Trump was all about. accountability
jul 17, 2025, 8:39 pm • 0 0 • view
When I lived in Indiana the support for Bernie was obvious. Hillary didn't even *show up* there. Left/right understanding is missing something basic: I remember polls with the following ranking: Bernie Trump Hillary
jul 17, 2025, 2:35 pm • 16 1 • view
Those are not low-info voters, and AOC is a DINO. They’re Democratic Socialists who think the Dems aren’t left enough or pro-Palestinian enough. They think there’s enough leftist populism in the USA to win the WH & Congress. We shall see but I doubt it
jul 17, 2025, 4:08 pm • 2 0 • view
low information pundit
jul 17, 2025, 3:55 pm • 0 0 • view
It is also true for me. I always vote, and vote democratic, but I have been terribly disappointed with the party’s turn to the moneyed classes since Clinton. The only reason I vote for the Dems is because the republicans are worse.
jul 17, 2025, 4:16 pm • 5 0 • view
Yet Democrats blame trans people like me for the loss.
jul 17, 2025, 6:08 pm • 1 0 • view
And those who didn't vote have as much blood on their hands as #MAGATs. A protest vote (or, nonvote) is a vote for the oppressors.
jul 17, 2025, 4:33 pm • 5 0 • view
That is not saying the Democratic platform and candidates do not need to change; they do. Immediately.
jul 17, 2025, 4:35 pm • 0 0 • view
Low information non voter who doesn’t know that Red means cutting both taxes on the rich and benefits for people like them? It’s not what you do for me it’s what you promise to do to others? I think that assessment is nonsense that sounds good.
jul 17, 2025, 3:17 pm • 0 0 • view
And yet these people stayed home and handed the MAGA Nazis an easy victory.
jul 17, 2025, 3:46 pm • 0 0 • view
The cruel irony here is that the media revolt against Biden happened because he *did* go against people at the top. He made billionaires pay taxes and enforced antitrust laws, and the billionaires who own the media revolted and threw all their weight behind the felon.
jul 17, 2025, 2:38 pm • 79 6 • view
Also true
jul 17, 2025, 5:16 pm • 0 0 • view
"The media" (meaning the people with the power to set what is covered and what isn't) and "people who don't vote" are non overlapping groups.
jul 17, 2025, 3:40 pm • 1 0 • view
Did Trump go to jail or not
jul 17, 2025, 3:40 pm • 16 0 • view
The judge who was supposed to sentence him took the cowards way out and tabled it
jul 17, 2025, 3:41 pm • 12 0 • view
Biden and Garland showed disinterest in holding Trump accountable. They let all the momentum slip before they did anything, bought Trump time, and in doing so botched the most open and shut case of our lifetime.
jul 17, 2025, 3:46 pm • 22 0 • view
I blame the voters
jul 17, 2025, 3:50 pm • 1 0 • view
The voters showed up and elected Biden to hold Trump accountable. Voters did their job. The voters showed up in force to protect women’s rights, stop endless wars, and get people universal healthcare when we elected Obama. Voters did their job. You blame voters when our leaders keep failing us.
jul 17, 2025, 3:52 pm • 18 0 • view
You have to vote more than once. Sorry.
jul 17, 2025, 4:06 pm • 2 0 • view
That's not the issue at hand though lol The issue is the Biden administration didn't do the job they were voted in to do. Dealing with the plotters of a failed coup attempt is something that should have been a priority even just out of an instinct for self preservation and they didnt.
jul 17, 2025, 4:11 pm • 6 0 • view
I know someone who left a job to prosecute Jan 6ers. They were doing it. No guillotines tho.
jul 17, 2025, 4:13 pm • 0 0 • view
That's great, but giving a couple of years to most of the rabble that stormed the capitol isnt dealing with the people who were ultimately responsible like Trump and members of the Republican party were.
jul 17, 2025, 4:16 pm • 0 0 • view
They didn’t go after anyone with any power.
jul 17, 2025, 4:14 pm • 2 0 • view
I’ve voted in every federal election since the the first W. Bush term. And even when the people I voted for win, they go out of their way to fail.
jul 17, 2025, 4:15 pm • 1 0 • view
Really cause I was on Ocare, denied coverage before that.
jul 17, 2025, 4:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. That part of the ACA was important. But someone assassinated a CEO operating under the rules of Obama’s signature bill and a significant part of the country was like, “yeah, I get where Luigi was coming from.” It is not affordable healthcare. It’s insurance subsidies.
jul 17, 2025, 4:25 pm • 2 0 • view
are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.
jul 17, 2025, 4:25 pm • 1 0 • view
No...
jul 17, 2025, 4:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Jesus fuck dude
jul 17, 2025, 4:35 pm • 3 0 • view
Not to mention Biden heavily implied that he would be a one term president, welched on that expectation and forced the Dems to push him out when it became clear he wasn’t up to it
jul 17, 2025, 4:16 pm • 6 0 • view
That got shot down real quickly, you'd know that if you weren't a dummy.
jul 17, 2025, 4:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Are you enjoying the Harris presidency?
jul 17, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
I did my part.
jul 17, 2025, 4:33 pm • 1 0 • view
One of those is me defending Palestinians against lazy bothsides arguments dummy.
jul 17, 2025, 5:26 pm • 0 0 • view
you will always be wrong if you blame the voters. voters have one input to the system. politicians have access to all of them. it's politicians job to win and to lead. dems chose not to try on either count.
jul 17, 2025, 4:25 pm • 2 0 • view
No it's the civic duty of citizens to vote.
jul 17, 2025, 4:33 pm • 0 0 • view
What are the civic duties of the officials we elect? bsky.app/profile/blan...
jul 17, 2025, 4:44 pm • 2 1 • view
you have everything backwards.
jul 17, 2025, 4:34 pm • 1 0 • view
No. Democracy only works if adults act like adults.
jul 17, 2025, 4:35 pm • 0 0 • view
you are not acting like an adult.
jul 17, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
even if true, the failure of dems to openly name their enemy -- the wealthy -- means that they cannot effectively message any action they take against them you have to give your voters an enemy to blame. the other party certainly will
jul 17, 2025, 3:41 pm • 4 0 • view
Bernie gets crap from lots of Dems, but he's the only one beating the drum against the power of money.
jul 18, 2025, 1:15 am • 0 0 • view
He was too afraid to go for the neck, especially because the small donator strategy died with the end of the Obama administration Now the Democratic Party needs the “good billionaires” to fund their campaigns Or at least the party leadership thinks that
jul 17, 2025, 7:39 pm • 1 0 • view
The problem is that they didn’t campaign on this.
jul 17, 2025, 7:39 pm • 4 0 • view
So who's this guy campaigning on raising taxes on billionaires?
jul 17, 2025, 7:57 pm • 2 0 • view
A guy who dropped out of the presidential race? Same guy who was president for four years and a Senator for 40 without doing it?
jul 17, 2025, 8:06 pm • 3 0 • view
So we’re really doubling down on “Biden’s awful for not doing the thing that he actually did do!”? bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-roo...
jul 17, 2025, 8:23 pm • 1 0 • view
So we're really calling a proposal that wasn't implemented "the thing he actually did do"? I'll give you "campaigned on", although the fact that he didn't propose it until on the way out the door works against you here.
jul 17, 2025, 8:30 pm • 4 0 • view
are you really using the white houses press release to prove that they did the things they said they'd do? lmao, no wonder the dems feel like they should not have to convince anyone of anything if this is how their base is
jul 17, 2025, 8:32 pm • 2 0 • view
He still governed to the left of most Social Democrats here in Europe. Joining a picket line, forgiving student debt, speaking out for trans rights, lowering health care cost. I wish I'd had a government doing things like that in my country in, heck, my adult life so far.
jul 17, 2025, 8:08 pm • 1 0 • view
Don't forget, he broke a strike, and made future strikes for rail workers illegal, but go on...
jul 17, 2025, 9:34 pm • 2 0 • view
Yeah, I think that’s right
jul 17, 2025, 3:55 pm • 7 1 • view
Is he right? I know that’s the popular version of what went on there. But, Mr low information voter not bothering to vote in 2024 of all years would just have easily bought into “Bernie’s too old” or “Kamala’s a commie” or “Obama will kill grandma.” He’s low info for a reason and stuck there.
jul 17, 2025, 7:57 pm • 1 0 • view
Of course, it's a narrative contrived by the chattering class for obvious political purposes: to prevent a Democratic platform of economic populism.
jul 17, 2025, 2:55 pm • 4 0 • view
Except that's not what the polling show. People viewed Kamala as top liberal
jul 17, 2025, 7:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, the presumption is that that's a bad thing. Harris didn't do much to challenge *that* assumption.
jul 17, 2025, 7:47 pm • 0 0 • view
That’s what they thought about Obama too, he seemed to make it work
jul 17, 2025, 7:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Dems are so bought into the myth of the unicorn republican voter that will vote dem if Dems would only center right harder. It’s infuriating and has hurt Dems repeatedly. Dems should run to get their own voters out to vote.
jul 17, 2025, 3:05 pm • 36 2 • view
No dems new that these voters were unreliable and tried to appeal to people who would vote.
jul 17, 2025, 3:44 pm • 1 1 • view
I think they also had a "less lose-less lose" (not win-win) strategy about the Union. Given that the internal polling of the VP's campaign never showed her winning, while I know they fought like hell to win despite the polls, they also had an eye towards 'then what happens?' in how they ran.
jul 17, 2025, 3:50 pm • 0 0 • view
lmao she offered nothing and was a wall street puppet. they were killing it with waltz and the highly paid consultants hate that. there is no money for them by running left. www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/u...
jul 17, 2025, 3:53 pm • 2 0 • view
Pop mythos impairs progress. "Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024’s Crucial Election By: Katina Jakel and Megan Hughes, October 15, 2024"
jul 17, 2025, 3:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Unreliable. To campaign with Liz Cheney. Please put the Kool-aid down.
jul 17, 2025, 6:39 pm • 5 0 • view
They just were cool with Trump.
jul 17, 2025, 6:43 pm • 1 0 • view
lmao they get paid by very wealthy corporations and donors to go right. that is all this is. there is no money on the left for consultants.
jul 17, 2025, 3:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Ever since the "Citizens United" Republican majority ruling was issued, the nearly 100-member Democratic Congressional Progressive Caucus has written new laws to fix big money in our politics, mandate paper ballots, etc. (like the For The People Acts or the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.)
jul 17, 2025, 3:56 pm • 2 0 • view
buddy thats not even half of the party lmao
jul 17, 2025, 3:58 pm • 0 0 • view
It is outsized representation, like it or not. 259 Democrats in Congress today. With only about 7% of the voters identifying as Progressive, thames thats more than 1/4 of all Democrats in Congress. They wrote and garnered the D votes, then two Senate conservatives, Manchin and Sinema blocked.
jul 17, 2025, 4:03 pm • 1 1 • view
CORRECTION: More than 1/3rd of all Democrats in Congress.
jul 17, 2025, 4:07 pm • 1 0 • view
* t̶h̶a̶m̶e̶s̶
jul 17, 2025, 4:06 pm • 0 0 • view
just look at what the party did after mamdani won, offering the most basic of help to the working poor. lmao
jul 17, 2025, 3:59 pm • 0 0 • view
It rallied behind him outside the small finance and pedo Dem faction.
jul 17, 2025, 4:04 pm • 1 1 • view
lmao www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/u...
jul 17, 2025, 3:53 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes they courted the moderate Republicans who reliably never vote Dem
jul 17, 2025, 3:51 pm • 4 0 • view
And no one else?
jul 17, 2025, 4:06 pm • 0 0 • view
and for a woman of color? just an insane strategy. but they are paid a lot of money to run right
jul 17, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
How’d that go? The last time Dems had a progressive candidate win the nomination for President, they got the House, filibuster-proof Senate, and White House. Then the progressive candidate became a corporate neoliberal President and it’s been downhill since.
jul 17, 2025, 3:49 pm • 14 0 • view
The fact that John Edwards got this in 2004 with his “Two Americas” campaign theme, but today most democratic politicians would call it divisive rhetoric www.sfgate.com/politics/art...
jul 17, 2025, 7:35 pm • 0 0 • view
They know this, too. But it's hard to convince them when their bribes depend on not understanding. Primary every democrat.
jul 17, 2025, 2:52 pm • 4 0 • view
HOLD UP! Two things can be true at once. “low information voters" thought Democrats had gone "too far left." AND “low information voters" thought Democrats "went too soft against the people on top."
jul 17, 2025, 3:47 pm • 4 1 • view
I do think there's something to the dissatisfaction with Democrats on "identity issues", in their treatment of them as largely divorced from economic issues. But the truth is that two are deeply interconnected. People can see that Democrats are not genuine on any of this.
jul 17, 2025, 2:23 pm • 4 0 • view
The reason this is identified as "too left" in much of the media is actually the same reason Democrats take this approach in the first place: commitment to the existing economic order.
jul 17, 2025, 2:26 pm • 7 0 • view
This. But also that people "on the bottom" thought dems were ignoring them & the pains they were dealing with every day.
jul 17, 2025, 3:02 pm • 4 0 • view
People were struggling paycheck to paycheck and in some cases, payday loan to payday loan but Democrats kept telling them they were crazy and brainwashed because the economy was great.
jul 17, 2025, 3:54 pm • 1 0 • view
Oh fuck that. And fuck Bernie. They were lazy and closet trump supporters
jul 17, 2025, 9:08 pm • 0 0 • view
I hope they've learned that the best way to influence people in power is to actually vote for people who can be influenced. 🤷
jul 17, 2025, 2:17 pm • 4 0 • view
So many who don't realize appeal to power or the ability to progress without it..
jul 17, 2025, 2:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Vote for policy with you local and congressional candidates, vote for leadership, integrity and character in a Presidential election.
jul 17, 2025, 2:26 pm • 4 0 • view
Vote blue no matter who for 40 years.
jul 17, 2025, 3:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Primaries matter!
jul 17, 2025, 3:51 pm • 1 0 • view
They do.... But they got us Biden. I wonder how different the world would be if Iowa had swung for Warren.
jul 17, 2025, 3:47 pm • 1 0 • view
Doesn't matter. You have to vote every 2 years and in every primary. I know, adulting is hard.
jul 17, 2025, 4:07 pm • 1 0 • view
Oh sweetie. Oh, oh sweetie.
jul 17, 2025, 4:01 pm • 0 0 • view
It is because Liberalism is not a form of left politics. It is centre right. And I expect a lot of liberals are even neoliberal capitalists. That is the problem with Democrats, as the political spectrum is from far left to centre right, while Republicans are all politically right.
jul 17, 2025, 2:21 pm • 13 1 • view
Do you think most even know the difference?
jul 17, 2025, 2:23 pm • 1 0 • view
They might not "know", but they notice, and because it now centres right, many people do not connect with Dems. It is also the reason the Dem top doesn't support new socialist voices. I am from the Netherlands, so here these differences are reflected in different parties and more visual.
jul 17, 2025, 2:33 pm • 14 0 • view
That’s fair
jul 17, 2025, 2:34 pm • 1 0 • view
There is no far left movement in this country.
jul 17, 2025, 3:53 pm • 0 0 • view
😂😂
jul 17, 2025, 3:53 pm • 1 0 • view
yeah basically. the american system is entirely based on vibes and ppl here can feel it even if they haven't been given the vocab to articulate it
jul 17, 2025, 7:30 pm • 1 0 • view
Not just the American system, unfortunately, but it is why the Democratic party has such a problem gaining overall support, while the Republicans can just throw some meat at their base, and they are good to go.
jul 17, 2025, 7:34 pm • 1 0 • view
They didn’t pay attention—unlike the base— who consistently turn out. What does that say about them and the persuasion skills of AOC and Sanders?
jul 17, 2025, 2:20 pm • 0 0 • view
That made me smile. What do YOU think that says about their persuasion skills? Do you think that is what the election came down to? We can blame it all on the two who understood what people want & need who just couldn't override the message from the rest of the political & media & personal issues?
jul 17, 2025, 3:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Progressives regularly blame the election on Harris not persuading them to vote. I don't agree with that. IMHO It's selfish to withhold a vote merely to protect your own ideological purity. It cuts both ways though. If you aren't consistent then your claim is biased.
jul 17, 2025, 7:38 pm • 1 0 • view
I don't like it, but the reality is a lot of voters don't decide their vote/not voting on rational thought (imho). People are emotional and have psychological traits, hang-ups, whatever. We just need to reach the reachable.
jul 17, 2025, 8:05 pm • 1 0 • view
I don't think we can take one factor or one attitude and generalize that across millions of people. When you say 'regularly,' I have no idea of even the ballpark of your estimated # of voters. I could probably list several plausible reasons for the nonvoters, but I'm not excusing it except for valid
jul 17, 2025, 8:04 pm • 0 0 • view
It's very common among online leftists at least.
jul 17, 2025, 8:35 pm • 0 0 • view
It's not AOC's job to persuade voters to settle for mediocrity.
jul 17, 2025, 3:44 pm • 0 0 • view
It is if she wants to build support. You throw people’s lives away for rhetoric.
jul 17, 2025, 7:10 pm • 0 0 • view
This is basically gibberish. She should build support by recruiting people to vote for underwhelming candidates? How does that work in your head?
jul 18, 2025, 3:14 am • 0 0 • view
Anonymous ugliness aside, the base of the party understood the threat, behaved like decent citizens & voted for the only person who could stop Trump. The people she inspires didn’t do that. She supposedly got what was happening, so I would hope she would have educated them more.
jul 18, 2025, 3:21 am • 0 0 • view
*shrug* OK.
jul 18, 2025, 3:23 am • 0 0 • view
Bernie needs to go away. Or just stfu & stay a senator till death if thats what Vermont voters want but he needs to recede from the national political stage. AOC all day but cut Bernie loose, deadweight deadbeat.
jul 17, 2025, 5:19 pm • 0 0 • view
And Mamdani.
jul 17, 2025, 6:11 pm • 0 0 • view