OMG seriously people, stop bitching about the PM removing the tariffs on CUSMA related goods, they were illegal tariffs applied to goods under CUSMA, they had to be removed ffs.
OMG seriously people, stop bitching about the PM removing the tariffs on CUSMA related goods, they were illegal tariffs applied to goods under CUSMA, they had to be removed ffs.
It's funny how stupid people are
Not really. The digital social media generation has swallowed every single load. People have gotten dumber, and this is like the ancient world... they rather let fantasy rule their lives than intelligence, truth or science
Idiots fail to understand that international trade negotiations are fluid and dynamic--sometime, countries have to push back, draw a line in the sand, and at other times, show a willingness to engage.
Their brains only work in a binary function: Liberal bad, Conservative good.
That's a fact! And when you show them anything that contradicts that, it's "fake news". 🤦🏻♀️
Idiots listen to the Idiot that was just reelected. You know…the guy who lived his whole adult life on taxpayer money and can’t get another job.
Simple minds are quickly attracted to snappy lil' slogans, because they can't tolerate ambiguity and complexity. That's how populists roll... Workable solutions, however, are another problem.
People have no sense at the best of times. They like to hear themselves bitch
Lol
Thank you, yes. Quite right.
They were used as a means to an end .. it paid off just as expected ..
Hate it, but it was necessary. Don't but US goods anymore so it doesn't make much difference anyway.
I don't buy them either
I am worried these are newly recruited operatives from Russia or people who’ve fallen for Russian tactics! Remember people we are very much on Russia’s target list!
"When In Doubt, Create a Conspiracy Theory !!"
I wish it was a conspiracy theory! Unfortunately 👇 + recently it was published in the news that conservative pundits were offered $ by the Russians to tote a particular narative! go.bsky.app/redirect?u=h...
pressprogress.ca/canadian-con...
If russian are reaching them to buy them, that mean others accepted.
Good for them for reporting this to authorities. It is concerning that the Russians feel they can use Conservatives to advance their own agenda. Are Cons not concerned about how some of their messaging is being used and how people perceive their overall agenda?
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And several Canadians were indicted along with some from the US. Tim Poole was among them receiving $400,000 a month from Russian interests
I voted for Carney FFS
Why FFS? He is doing a fantastic job! He is in Europe where our future belongs! The Americans are on self destruct mode likely there will only be weeks left! Just look at the news out of US today. Army to be deployed in major cities to ward of rebellion! They do not have functioning country!
Likely the US will deteriorate into violence within the month! bsky.app/profile/adam...
Absolutely The purpose of those tariffs was to bring the Americans to the table and had the opposite effect. And we were hurting our busineeses. Mr. Carney did the absolute right thing in adapting our strategy. Don't be confused by hyperbolic rethoric. Stay united #CanadaStrong 🇨🇦
PM Carney
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PP and his gang are out in full force. 🤦♀️. Nothing is fixed overnight ~ If it’s even possible to fix anymore.
Well the Conservatives(US Republicans) are looking for bad things to blame on the PM. They are overlooking the deals that the PM is signing. Look at the US Navy trying to build a naval drone. Canada now has an agreement to jointly build them. It was signed with Ukraine on their independence day.
Yes they acknowledge selective misinformation only. Heaven forbid they come up with something original and factual!
I can understand WHY he did something and still not be happy about it. Last I checked people have the right to complain
It’s called negotiating. And it doesn’t force any Canadian to buy American products. Instead of complaining, everyone is free to do their part.
We're about to enter a statutory review of CUSMA, and at this point Trump can claim moral high ground as the tariffs he's imposed so far exempted CUSMA-compliant goods. Yes, I see why superficially this looks like a reversal but it's just lining things up for the real negotiations later.
Yes, until and if the trade agreement is signed and in effect, nothing is set in stone. Until then, it's a diplomatic dance. #cdnpoli
I see CBC & CTV are doing another great job of supporting PP’s BS & going really light on the facts again & brandying truth like it’s optional - Then it gets swirled around on the Nazi-friendly sites for easier consumption
"When In Doubt, Blame the Media !!"
stop buying US products. Canadians stand united #ElbowsUp stop supporting US owned businesses, keep profits in Canada
We need to write to our grocers and stores to tell them we want stuff from Canada, EU, Mexico, Asia… anywhere but USA Canadians are the soldiers in this Trade War - it’s up to us to make the decisions for a more resilient Canada for our kids & grandkids
I've talked with numerous produce managers about grown in Canada and say simply I won't buy anything American ever again. Doable in Vancouver.
Doable even in winter thanks to greenhouses and Mexico we can source produce from other countries
I voted for Carney, but felt I was holding my nose as I did. That said, removing the tariffs are a tactic, tactics are about the present, strategies are about the future, and Carney might have a solid strategy that this move serves.
The only people losing it are the people who voted for the conservatives. They wanted it to be their gotcha moment.
Ask them if they want way more for products from the US. For me, tariffs or no tariffs, I will continue my boycott of US products. Slowly, slowly I am replacing US products with either Canadian products or other countries.
Same here i really like the new products I’ve started using
Me too! So pleased I discovered them. Never going back.
Me too! Not backing down now or ever! 🇨🇦💪🏻
They were only put there in the first place for a future chess move. To let the dotard think he won something. www.sootoday.com/letters-to-t...
Ive been screaming the exact same thing all over YT and substack. Seems the younger generations only understand instant gratification. Many don’t understand why Carney cant snap his fingers and get a better deal than we have right now!
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Precisement
My God, someone who actually gets it!
Why assume we can negotiate in good faith with a convicted felon who keeps moving the goal posts? That, along with the timing after Trumps latest slap in our face may be a factor into the reaction. Even Premiere Kinew was blindsided & asks is this elbows down? Our very sovereignty is at stake.
Not to mention putting them on then removing them will make Trumpy think he won something because he’s stupid.
But, but, but admitting that would make it impossible to complain that PMMC capitulated.
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I am soooo sick of those turkeys. I thought he had as well until I had a fellow Bluesky friend educate me properly
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Too many folks read the "Headline" without reading 📚 the stories or trying to understand the true story and "long game" To put it simply: Carney has an PhD in Economics, while Trump thinks lowering prices 1000% makes business sense 🙄 #TrumpIsInnumerate #MathMatters #ElbowsUp #BuyLocal #Canada
I try to summarize the headlines in Bluesky posts and YouTube vids so people don’t have to be dumb They can know what’s behind the headline w/out reading and discuss it
That's what I likes about you 😊 👏👏👏
Yes and most knowledgeable about world banking. Just saying Russia
And he removed then because the Americans finally also stopped tarriffing CUSMA goods. Aka the retaliatory tariff worked and then he stopped doing it because he won.
If he removed tariffs on automobiles then I would worry
Aside from breaching the CUSMA treaty, these tariffs had little upside, while they provided an excuse for the U.S. to terminate CUSMA prematurely. A more effective option is for Canadian retailers to source Canadian alternatives to American products - alcoholic beverages being a good example.
😂 "they were illegal"? So where is the result(s) used to justify this removal? "removal is intended to spur on talks and negotiations" (paraphrasing here)? Bueller? Bueller? Sorry but nah, this was placating the Orange Cheeto out of fear. Elbows up? I don't think so! And I'm a staunch lib voter.
I wonder how much Canadian you actually buy....
LoL! That's a pretty loaded question from a "hopeless realist". I do what I can where I can when I can when it comes to CDA products. Don't misinterpret my disaffection as "weakness" or "unpatriotic"... We're all in this together but that doesn't mean our elected PM is beyond criticism or reproach
Well, we almost should be critical. To each our own opinion.
And ffs READ 👇 bsky.app/profile/faga...
"We can and must adjust to this new reality." Acceptance, planning, and strategic planning for Canada's direction in a changing world. Thank goodness we elected a leader with the experience and intelligence to move Canada forward. The other choice was grim acquiescence.
right? imagine having that imbecile PP and the regressive CPC just following that idiot Trump *shudder*
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Everyone is an economics expert now!!
Thats driving me a bit crazy🤪
Yep, thanks for that Cheryl!
Exactly: Trump is removing his illegal CUSMA tariffs, we remove our legal response. AL/FE are still in place both sides. Automotive is RVC CUSMA/non-CUSMA. US illegal MFN tariffs remain so ours do as well. Lumber is an dumping investigation, different process, w/b ruled illegal as always.
That's not why people are upset, though. Remove those tariffs, fine. But replace them with some other form of pushback for the US tariffs on autos, steel, aluminum, and lumber. He hasn't done that. That's why people are annoyed. It's OK to criticise the PM. That's part of democracy. #cdnpoli
He's currently buying US debt bonds. He is doing plenty to fight this. There are a lot of moving parts to this problem. Why hasn't Trump succeed yet? The world has America but the purse. More and more each day. Soon. Trump won't have any "cards" Chess, no checkers.
I'm not saying Carney isn't doing anything. Just pointing out the tariffs he imposed were supposedly as a response to US tariffs on steel, aluminum, lumber, etc. Those US tariffs have not been removed. So, removing our tariffs, without some public form of pushback, makes it seem he's giving in.
Canadians have taken up the task with our boycotts. Insulting or annoying Trump does nothing good. Like I said Chess.
Trump is immune to insults bc he's a #Narcissist & thinks he is perfect. The easiest way to "trigger" Trump is to praise others, especially those close to him or that intimidate him (Obama, Newsom, AOC, Biden, or Hillary) #KeepTrollingTrump
The US boycott by Canadian consumers is vital. Agreed. However, if the PM is seen to be giving in or easing up (elbows down, if you will), it's more likely that Canadians will follow suit by easing up or stopping the boycott. He's the leader. He needs to lead by example. Elbows Up.
Then listen to his words. He explained it all. Everyone knows by now Trump cannot be reasoned with. No fault of Carney. Canadians know I think.
Canadians know, yes. So why is Carney still trying to negotiate? That's a bigger question here. He's dropped tariffs to appease Trump, in hopes of good negotiations for the new CUSMA. That's false hope. People are willing to let Carney play this out. But if he falls flat, he's likely a 1 term PM.
We see the situation totally different. Obviously. I don't agree with your assessment . That's ok though. All the best.
I think the question would be…why are they upset? Is it emotional from a simple desire to punish America? It’s important to be strategic and right now removing tariffs will save Canadians and Canadian companies money just as higher prices are starting to hit Americans consumers…
Punishing the US is part of it, yes. For multiple reasons, not limited to tariffs. But it's more about fairness. If the US is trying to destroy Canadian industries (and living here in BC I can tell you he is - forestry is dead), there has to be pushback. This is people's livelihoods.
Those tariffs are still on. List is searchable. www.canada.ca/en/departmen...
I get in regards to goods covered under that deal (I presume tariffs would cause complications and potentially fracture it as it currently stands), but what about goods that aren't covered by it?
there are tariffs on those goods
Tariffs on American goods are a tax on Canadian consumers……. Be a good Canadian warrior……. Don’t buy American goods, then the tariff status doesn’t matter
If we stop buying american, with or without tariffs, is the goal. I m afraid without, many dumbass canadians will increase their american product addiction again. I figure, if the counter tariffs remain, we could cut that. It very nearly doesn't bother me. I don't buy u.s
And if people don't buy it co. won't bring it into the country pissed off the consumer look at Target down the states and a lot of other co. are going to have a problem. They need consumers and workers they screw the workers they screw the consumers so they can have all the $ F them
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I know it’s really stupid and so many would’ve been screaming. had he not done it - he had to do it
Carney is playing the long game where schmoozing the orange tyrant is much more productive than reflex tit for tat responses. The upcoming review of CUSMA is going to be brutal. THAT is where the focus needs to be and it will be tough since the US is so much bigger and Trump is a profound bully.
They’re on it.
And it was Trudeau that put them there in the first place.
Also removing the tariffs helps small businesses. We can and will buy Canadian so it's a win !
Exactly. Countless small businesses needed this to have any chance of surviving.
And FFS people do some research about how the decisions and strategies of our PM Carney are actually working. Here is just one example of many I have found. youtu.be/C5UCcJnyjfE?...
The number of people, including PP, journalists, who don’t get what our PM & govt ministers are doing & keep criticising them is astounding. I thought the majority of Canadians were smarter than that. (#CPC supporters certainly aren’t.) #pathetic
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Yeah I wish that people would stop jumping to conclusions that it's not right because it is right what he did. I don't think the tariffs bother me as much tje disrespect that we're getting from America and their attitude towards us. That really bothers me. I have the power of the wallet.
Absolutely! It’s okay for them to bully but gawd forbid you stand up to their b.s. Buy Canadian 🇨🇦
I put a lot of faith in PMMC,I’m sure he knows what he’s doing and won’t lead us down the wrong path,just because he doesn’t say what he’s doing sometimes doesn’t mean he’s not doing anything 💯
I was not happy about the digital tax. But since the 🇺🇸 doesn’t tariff the goods under CUSMA, it’s logical to stop tariffing the 🇺🇸 goods under the agreement
There is a more comprehensive multi-national DST in the works. It was a logical interim step.
I hope so. It’s tiring to see the 🇺🇸 companies take advantage of us
PMMC is looking at a MUCH bigger picture than us mere mortals comprehend! :) Trump is now considering sanctions on countries who have a Digital Services Act. www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...
It’s important to regulate the digital world. We don’t abdicate our laws for the 🇺🇸
True enough, but I do believe PMMC knows how to play the long game to maximum effect for our benefit. The Order of Canada in 2014 for his leadership in the development of financial policy in Canada and around the world...an economics doctorate & honourary doctorate of law... Eminently qualified. :)
Thank you for speaking up - I am getting so frustrated with the constant complaining about everything. Too slow, too fast and on and on. I know there are more positive folks than negative ones, they need to speak up more to take away the loud negative voices that are taking over.
It sucks when people can’t think things through before they open their mouths. Incredibly annoying.
Just keep/start boycotting
They weren't working anyway. And Canada and China were the only countries to put on retaliatory tariffs. Other countries waited to see and realized like Canada now has, that nothing works dealing with an impulsive creature of base instincts except trying to limit the damage. This is where we are.
They worked wonderfully. Exports to the US are down 2%, tourism to the states is down 40%, alcohol sales stopped. It was a targeted process that was quite effective. The whole point of short term tariffs is to bring people back to the bargaining table. it worked.
Tariffs are a regressive tax that can be utilized carefully to protect domestic industries. Incautious use of tariffs injures low-income folks who can’t easily substitute. Trying to win a trade war by copying 10,000 Tariffs Grandpa’s playbook is just silly.
We also watched. It was clear that not putting retaliatory tariffs on just made things worse anyway. He’s first and foremost a bully, so the very last thing you do is sit there and take the beating.
I think the theory that Trump is both intending to use tariffs as a “beating” against trade partners and that that’s what they actually do merits questioning. It’s certainly what he says he’s doing but he also says he’s really concerned about mortgage fraud by the fed board and crime in DC.
I don’t pay all that much attention to what he says. He does have a consistent pattern of pushing adversaries, and if they yield, pushing more. Much of the way I see him was shaped by seeing fairly close his pre-Presidential behaviour in Scotland. He loves threats, but any tactic is on the table.
Only when you stop yielding to him does negotiation start.
But if the bully's "exerting pressure" by hurting himself, and sees you not hurting yourself as yielding, is it a good strategy to keep hurting yourself? This might sound like a picky Trump hypothetical but in retrospect a lot of my grade school tormentors used exactly this technique.
Goodness I’m not arguing we should have done different. I believe in both reciprocity and being strategic.
Oh! Sorry, I misunderstood. I was also trying to lay out why I don't think there's easy answers for dealing with someone who's both a bully and extremely erratic, which ... In retrospect I had to deal with far too often when I was younger.
Trump tariffs are dumb because they hurt US people and US economy. But Canada must do the same to Canadians and Canadian economy, right ?
Did I support that? No. But we’re dealing with someone we need to actually show we mean it. This is a symbolic fight as much as an economic one. If we tariff a few things and shout about it, that’s fine by me. Especially if we use that to incentivize and support confronting US monopoly sectors.
Trump wants MAGA to think he is macho by bullying other nations around. Telling US we mean it will make Trump feel he must do something to hurt Canada to demonstrate he is macho.
You’re right in one way. That’s how you handle malignant narcissists — and he is a textbook case. But that doesn’t mean you give them what they want. We have to set boundaries (borders!) and stick to them. We reciprocate, but we do not do it loud in public. So far, the Canadian has be pitch perfect.
It was individual boycotts that produced these numbers. These must continue. In addition, increasing and allying our defense spending with European companies, hurts the powerful US military/ finance complex. Europe is already doing this. This is how we retaliate and stand up to the bully.
Why have tariffs that put pressure on our inflation rate, which is going down, while the US inflation rate is going up? The Boycotts & lack of travel are doing the job better than tariffs. A good strategy! Government can't control what consumers buy. 🤣 🇨🇦💪 #BuyCanadian now more than EVER! #BoycottUSA
When one makes a mistake, one admits and corrects which is what Mark did. Get over it, move on! Boycott, boycott, boycott good Canadians. We are small, but mighty!
Thank you for pointing this out to folks!
The number of people yelling about MC betraying Canada WRT removing tariffs from CUSMA goods is infuriating (even some people whose opinion I normally respect). And they call us MC apologists. Canada has the best tariff situation in the entire world. Any unnecessary irritants risk that status.
If it looks like PP and it smells like PP…it is PP!
Anyone who voted for Carney in April and is complaining now has unrealistic expectations. Negotiating takes time, we were breaking the law and it would have come around to bite us. People need to lower their expectations and learn patience and what Win/Win really means!
Those who voted PMC and are complaining now would be the fence sitting conservatives. And the ultra left. Complaining is what they do.
I can’t press the 🩷 enough on this. I’ve noticed so many people bitching without understanding what’s going on or at least asking questions. So quick to jump all over PM Carney. We’ve got to maintain CUSMA until next year. By then hopefully we can rid ourselves completely from the corrupt mess of 🇺🇸
Hear hear.
I will keep boycotting US goods and American companies. I'll let the guy with the Doctorate in Economics deal with the tariffs.
Yes exactly!
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Thank you ……..
Probably removing them to try and keep CUSMA, because Trump will be looking for reasons to torch it.
Exactly. Keep up, people.
Trump tariffs are dumb because they hurt US people and US economy. But Canada must do the same to Canadians and Canadian economy, right ?
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It is not complicated.
Apparently, it is for people who can only handle 3 word phrases.
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I call them 3 word turds….
😂😂😂 Perfect
I hate seeing produce in the grocery store from the US. Who is buying this stuff??
Oh there are buyers. I see them. One day I'm gonna start something when I see red baron in a cart..
And we shouldn’t be buying those things anyway.
It’s important to be strategic and right now removing tariffs will save Canadians and Canadian companies money just as higher prices are starting to hit Americans consumers…
Canadian small businesses are delighted that the Canadian tariffs are gone….
It's was a tax paid by Canadians when we buy US products 🍁The Buy Canadian movement is stronger than ever!💯 Get involved, do your part. The Canadian economy will be all the better for it. 🎯 It's money invested in OUR infrastructure AND services. It's a win-win situation.💯
And PM Carney didn’t put them on PMJT did
And they are going to save, you, the Canadian consumer, money. Uggghhh!!! Why are people so ... like this??
Stupid? Is that the word you're looking for? 😜
Yeah...that was one of them for sure!
It's like we didn't vote in a world-class economist to handle the money driven authoritarian next door for us. The main issue is not Carney's abilities, it's that he needs space to develop a strategy to manage an ill-informed, destructive, dementia-riddled leader, who has inanely been handed power.
Let him do his job. We'll do ours. Stop putting money into the US, including using it as a destination point.
Wasn’t that long ago when people were armchair quarterbacks on vaccines, the economy, the Charter, Justice system, etc, so I guess tariffs is another they can purport to be experts.
Those morons haven't gone anywhere. They're still pretending their Convoy occupation in Ottowa was some kind of revolution.