If you look back at recent history & current climate,trying to 'a woo' the moderates/swing voters lost Dems House,Senate, & WH.Progressive or "hard left" voters stayed away from the polls bc they are tired of Dems efforts on the same people who will never vote Dem anyway.It's a sunk cost fallacy.
I think you are incorrect. Look at all the Dem senators and governors in red and purple states: none of them are hard left extremist types. I think you just *want* this to be the strategy that works because you believe in far left positions.
Why should I have to sacrifice voting rights?
You’re not listening. My advice to you is to nominate the most progressive candidate *who can win*
The shittiest part is, I can see the bitter anger in her representation of representing Vancouver not BC Washington not DC Clark County not NE Across from Portland not ME. She hates her most populous city and we can tell!!
She plays it like the country folk have real concerns and we don’t.
My rep is MGP. I am allowed to be pissed at my democrat and even recommending unifying around hating her to both of the factions since she has all the hatable traits to leftists and normie dems.
She makes me feel sick. And I feel moral anguish because of her. It isn’t about purity. I would happily trade for Marcy Kaptur.
Give me a Jim Costa. Give me any of the democrats who arent from Texas or Maine.
It’s unfair how my democrat hints she is a traitor by calling herself an independent voice of Washington. I hate her.
She is good! More like her please! Better than the alternative by far!
I like how she talks like us… but go to 25 seconds. watch for 45 seconds from there. :( if she didn’t seem to hate us first. youtu.be/7LvhUHKYupI?...
Perez is another one who sells herself as moderate Dem. 🥱 Voted against student loan forgiveness. Voted to censure Rep. Al Green(D-TX). Voted for the SAVE Act. Her townhall are bs. Is a Republican enabler. Doesn't mind working w Nazis. Enough said.
She is the leader of the conservative faction of democrats. And i agree about the student loan forgiveness since I saw how Biden was treated. I just hate those people now since they are ungrateful assholes. They were always willing to kick me in the shin for purity.
Just total greedy avarice over monies they agreed to take out.
Also my state is in 46th place for most student loan debt…. She is supposed to rep my district which has a community college that a lot of people graduated with very little or no debt.
The alternative is serving in national office you dipshit!
My vote so profoundly didn’t matter for keeping the fascist out. Why even mention the alternative when you should know that???
They're either Progessive or they're not. People are sick of the status quo leftover from the Reagan Era Dems, i.e. New Democrats... who for 45 yrs have enabled the Republicans in their endeavours to get the US to where it is at this moment in history.
I like “new Democrats” and would be happy to have one. My rep is the leader of the Blue Dogs.
Blue Dog coalition sounds a lot like the New Dems that came into being in the 1990's who claimed to have progressive policies, which turned out to be more nonsense from a bunch of neoliberals.
I can’t really deny she is a solid representation of what people sound like in my district. We are a no income tax state and my city is a cross the river from a no sales tax state. Left libertarians.
The New dems now are just progressives who only might be more likely to support Israel and Reparations to black people.
My rep says she voted with democrats for 8/10 things but she is also probably rightfully upset that she doesnt have much control over what gets brought to the floor. And i mostly just want her to say sorry for save act vote and not do it again…
I think my rep is the first Blue Dog leader that is on the equality caucus.
She is to the left of nearly all 90’s democrats for that reason.
What kind of candidates are winning statewide in purple and red states? Whitmer Bashear Shapiro Kelly Galleago Etc. The evidence is not aligned with what is in lefty Bluesky hearts. Median voter theory is aligned with the evidence.
But those people are all to the left of MGP…
Match the candidate to the district. I care about winning, not being too far or not enough left. Win. Be a winner.
How can someone be a winner if they want my ability to vote gone for not having access to my birth certificate and demanding I get a new one and demanding that my ID be presented and that ID also costs money: and she ran on protecting mail in voting. This isn’t that.
I care about winning too. But restricting our rights feels a step too far.
More than fair. If you’re focused on winning that’s what matters to me.
Im focused on allowing as many eligible people as can vote to vote as my red line in the sand for going against it. Im more mad at this and I can try to defend otherwise. But I can’t defend someone who disrespected my vote as easily…
Gallego & Kelly are my state senators.They won bc they ran unopposed.They were the only choices for voters like me who would never vote GOP & for who not voting is not an option.This is a common problem for Dem voters when we have little choice.They suck & I hope they get primaried.They're GOP-lite
I don’t feel that way about your senators. And I think the McCain seat is cursed. If you want to know what not fighting looks like *shows my rep*
I would say the rep worse than mine is Rep Golden.
You want to primary them? FFS why do you hate yourself. That’s a recipe for LOSING. They are proven winners and *you* want to help elect REPUBLICANS? Bonkers.
Recipe for losing?That cake's been baked.You don't understand what"primary" means in AZ elections. Besides,you're singing to the choir.I am not the voter you are worried about.It's the Dem voters who stay away from polls you should be concerned w.The swing voter wooing will cont to keep them away.
People who don’t vote every time on purpose are swing voters and have the same outcome as centrists. I am capable of voting between two republicans because Im in a top two get the nomination state with a not partisan primary. My bitterness stems from well… there being a strategy for dems to win.
Not even guaranteed to have a democratic option where I live. Washington district 4 had a 2 republican general in 2024. The democrats did not make the general.
They did not run unopposed. They are better than the Republican alternative.
I never said they weren't better than the GOP alternative. I said that I always vote Dem rather than not vote. I was very clear about this. But this doesn't mean I have to like the choices on the ballot. Gallego ran unopposed in the AZ Dem primary. Kelly ran uncontested in the AZ Dem primary.
Oh, in the primary, I see what you mean. That must be how you got such good candidates, they didn’t get dragged to the left and damaged in a primary.
There's something wrong w you. And you're boring me w your nonsense now. Go blather on about your precious 'swing voters' to someone who cares. Bc you have me confused w someone who does.
I'm not bc my logic is based on empricial evidence. But if you think the Dem Party continuing on the same trajectory that wants to keep 'a wooing' voters who will only end up voting Republican or Independent anyway... is finally going to win Dems elections... OK. 🧵
But... factoring this into that great American tradition of Republican voters who vote to screw the 'other' guy... that 'swing voter' strategy is a lose/lose. 🤦🏽♂️
I prefer to stake the future on empirical evidence, rather than far left hopes and dreams. I want my life to get better.
Empirical evidence is showing that Dem strategy of trying to appeal to 'swing voters' at the cost of progressive/left voters isn't working. Hopefully,Dems win in upcoming elections. But it will be bc🍊 & the entire GOP is so freaking evil that even my golden retriever could beat them in an election.
It’s the only that has worked in red and purple states. You just don’t want that to be true, I think.
It has literally obliterated the Dems and turned a number of blue states purple and purple states red. You people would rather lose with your right wing bullshit than win
You're high.