sounds like a deficit, sounds like Cali is carrying the other states and being disrespected, sounds like donpedo should give you a plane and apologize….donpedo hates deficits …he started a trade war because of it…sounds like he treats Putin better than he treats the state that financially carries US

All democratic “paying” states funding red states should “soft” secede and stop the money train. Pull out all the stops to save our democracy NOW.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

Good info. I did see a lawyer who said that legal scholars were researching soft secession which included withholding federal taxes. Hopefully there’s something there.

It is a felony for an employer to fail to remit the employee's taxes. There really isn't much to research.

Seems there are others methods to oppose the regime by state though so hoping the research can come up with ways to combat Trump and his admin. I’m a cockeyed optimist resister.

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And join Canada

It's hot air. He knows that the money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money. It controls only the

income tax withheld from state employees.

Yes. Use every weapon in California's arsenal to fight the Orange Mussolini.

💪🏼

I never understood why blue states Pais for red states to rule over them. Why was that allowed to evolve and be maintained??? We need a 3rd party to fix all of this. Newsom would make an excellent 3rd party leader, he seems is actually strategizing and implementing things.

Actually, if the California legislature voted into law that every worker in the State of California was an independent contractor then employers couldn't take out federal taxes. It's a flimsy loophole but a loophole none the less.

Cancel federal funding? Cancel all money going to the fed

No maybe about it. It is time for a soft succession...

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

I know, just feels good to think about doing it. But we the people do still have the power of the purse...

Not exactly. Congress has the power of the purse.

No, I mean, our purses. We can vote with our dollars all year long...

Got it. But we have to do more than vote. We have to donate those dollars and we also have to campaign.

It would be a Beginning Might be time for me to think about moving to Seattle.

Oh, I would go further north if I were you.

Thinking about it.

I highly recommend it. We have lots of decent Americans who have relocated. Don't wait till it gets to Gilead stage. I fear it could be too late to fight. The felon controls the military now.

Not at all. How many in the military would turn their guns on unarmed fellow Americans? Any true American serving in the military would know what they swore an oath to.

States should keep their money as many blue states are not getting all of their money back because it's going to red states who are not paying in enough.

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I told you California we have to take care of ourselves now first nobody cares about us red states can make it on their own yeah I'd like to see that.

It’s time to cut them off!!!

Honestly, there should be a push for him to at least withhold the tax amount of funding to research and other federal grant $$ that were congressionally approved and then cancelled by this admin. He should just sell it to the public as funding the contracts the President walked away from

It's obvious to me that Trump has it out for the state of California, not just its governor.

preach!

Do it.. all blue.. and bring this MF and NAZI GOP TO THEIR KNEEs ..play hardball...

Do it!

Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!

Every blue state should do this.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

New York State should too.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

😝😝😝

And confiscate any of Trump's properties in California as a criminal enterprise.

attn: @govpritzker.illinois.gov @governorwalz.mn.gov and any other blue state governor.

It's absolutely time to cut that off. Please do it.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

I understand but they can put federal taxes into a different account instead of sending it to Trump regime. I go tax exempt myself for the same reason. If I owe later, I'll pay it at the end of the year.

Yes you can increase your W4 deductions to the maxiumum allowed. Yes, you will owe but not just at the end of the year. You will be required to pay estimated taxes each quarter. If you don't, then at the end of the year, you will owe not only the tax, but interest on the unpaid quarterly tax.

And many people don't have the self-discipline to put that money aside.

True.

No, they can't. It is a felony for an employer to fail to remit the employee's taxes to the Treasury if the failure was willful. 26 U.S. Code 7202 Willful failure to collect or pay over tax says, “Any person required under this title to collect, account for, and pay over any tax imposed by this

title who willfully fails to collect or truthfully account for and pay over such tax shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $10,000, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both,

together with the costs of prosecution.”

Just do it and New York too.

Damn right, DO IT @governor.ca.gov !!!

Up yours, Fat Felon:

We should cut it off, esp to red states!

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

That’s too bad. The Republicans in red states do not deserve our money!

🗽 Absolutely! What's called a "soft secession!" If there were ever a time in our history it was called for... It's now!

Yes...do it.

Our fat fascist is stealing taxpayer dollars, terrorizing our citizens, purposefully tanking our economy, and dumping vaccines like he has a fucking playlist from Putin. Putin's playlist: terror, illness, poverty. WHO DOES HE WORK FOR? NOT US!

Yes pleas do it? Why should you pay taxes when the president and the Republican Party disrespect you and oppress you! The federal government should protect you and therefore you will pay taxes. This is a clear abuse! You know it! 😱

Is this possible without 🍊 Mussolini sending Hegseth to battle?

It's not feasible. Individual people and businesses would have to stop paying their federal taxes, and then the feds would have the clear legal right to take action against them.

Pass a law, send this remittance to the California Central Bank to be sent to the US Treasury. Takes the individual jeopardy out of the equation. Then Gavin can get busy.

Secede

Maybe all states who don’t support this so called administration’s ending of democracy should not send $ to the federal government. Those red states will just have to suck it up. The people in Louisiana can go live at Mike Moses Judas Johnson’s house. He’s such a Christian, he won’t mind.

California should do so

Maybe? #Dems have to stop the fake tough talk. Do it. Talk about it later.

No maybe, do.

DO IT ... cut Trump off.

Every time Trump tries to cut funding to something in CA... CA should just deduct equal amount from federal taxes it sends to the Washington. Seems fare and appropriate. Let start with that high speed train Trump is trying to defund.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

You are describing how it USED TO work... back when country was not run by lawless senile psycho pedophile traitor... If Trump can ignore rules... so are we.

You don't get it. He can ignore the laws and get away with it. We can't. This is not a two-way street.

I am game... let's try it. You never know until you try it. He only "getting away" because we allow him to get away.

Go ahead. I have no desire to pay interest and penalties. "WE" are not allowing him to get away with anything. It is the fucking MAGA majority in Congres and the fucking corrupt MAGA justices on SCOTUS.

I am not so sure. Apparently throwing a subway into FBI agent is not a felony after all. And Crocodile Aushwitz is empty (as of now)

I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen a grand jury refuse to indict.

All Blue States We all pay in more than we pull out But Cali drives this country Newsom knows he’s in an excellent position, as does Stephen Miller

YES. DO IT!!!

All blue states should do this.

🙏🏿🙏🏼🙏🏾🙏🙏🏻🙏🏿🙏🏼🙏🏾🙏🙏🏻

Sounds like a good start. Every blue state in a similar revenue position should consider.

Red States are always talking about ways to punish Blue States. When you bite the hand that feeds you, you deserve to lose that nourishment.

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Please do! Don't give them an effin penny!

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

Yes!

It's past time. When Trump invaded LA would've been a better time.

If you do withhold it, maybe you can put it towards public housing for the homeless, instead of your current policies. You may be the Dems best troll against trump, but you are still a centrist, capitalist PoS.

Do it!

YES, DO IT NOW

YES!!!

Do it. Do it. Do it. And the other blue states should do it too.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

Do it

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

May be if some workers in CA + Blue states can afford this move it will at least sting in DC. So.. Request your employer to not pay you for a week (or month) - they will keep the money aside in the bank to pay you later, and ask for a "loan" to help get you thru the week. Would that work?

That is pretty creative, I must say. I doubt employers would agree to it, though, and I suspect that the IRS would consider it tax evasion.

Thanks. I'm sure someone will come up with something. I'll keep my thinking hat on!

Save that money for a non-rainy day! Prepare for your own natural disasters.

Sounds great but probably not so easy to do..... still...

YES!!!! DO IT!!!!! All those red states don't pull their weight!!!!

Do it

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

I get it. Great clarification. So let’s play by the rules…while the Republicans rape and pillage. Sorry - no - break it.

If an employer willfully fails to remit the employees' payroll taxes, it is a felony. 26 U.S. Code 7202 Willful failure to collect or pay over tax says, “Any person required under this title to collect, account for, and pay over any tax imposed by this title

who willfully fails to collect or truthfully account for and pay over such tax shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $10,000, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both,

together with the costs of prosecution.”

DO IT! FUCK THE CHILD RAPIST.

I'm so for it. Red states will suffer.

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

Are you getting tired of repeating yourself?

I am getting sick of seeing how few people know how any of this works. There is not reply-all function or community notes. If you don't want to see my comments, you know what to do.

Yeah, I was just impressed how many times you've had to do it in one thread. Your fingers must hurt.

Sorry - I misunderstood your intent. I just copy paste. And it isn't just this issue. It is Social Security, the Katie Johnson thing, the Wyden speech on the Epstein wire transfers, the Fairness Doctrine, the concocted story about payments to child rape victims...I have this thing about facts and

combatting misinformation.

I want to see your comments and I appreciate your knowledge.

Thanks!

We want them to suffer. Traitors.

Not everyone in a red state is red.

But they will understand, for the good of the country?

That is very true!

Yes, just do it. Time to give these red states a lesson in basic economics

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

YES 🙌🏻

money talks...

Just DO IT! Put them on defense for once!!!!!

If there was one person who I think would, it would be Newsom, I hope he does.

Soft secession now!

#welfarestates

Without a doubt!

THIS IS THE PRICE OF IGNORANCE, RACISM/HATRED, AND GREED BY LYING HYPOCRITICAL REPUBLICANS💯👪😥⚠️🚫🛑!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just wait till the MAGA base there realize that they are the target of the BBB. No whining please MAGA. You voted for him. Fuck 'em All of them. Dumb asses. BTW doesn't Kentucky state receive largest amount of federal hand outs. Or they are close to it. Go California Gov Newsom!

It's only because of the Mexicans and blacks. And drumph will save them, but he might need a third term to get around to it. Trust him.

Yes!

Do it

Yea... if we actually can, we can redirect that money and cut taxes for our own people instead of feeding the ungrateful MAGAts who fight against us. We could starve them into extinction, maybe they will wake the fuck up.

Used it to build windmills

Cheers 🍻

@gavinnewsom.bsky.social do it!!

Time to cut the Red States off !!

Agreed!

Yes! Cut it off.

It's Damn time for the Dems to stand up! 👍

I support it.

Cut them off! This is a civil war!

✊✊💙👏🗽👏💙✊✊

Do it!

You go Gavin

Too bad the entire US west coast couldn’t be its own country.

I fully support my state and the rest of the West Coast becoming The Republic of Ecotopia.

State of California can do what is referred as deferred taxation. @governor.ca.gov @gavinnewsom.bsky.social When I gain access to my TSP in 20 months or sooner. I will withdraw enough to fund the High Speed rail directly myself. I will buy high speed rail so California has no debt incurred.

Governor I am majority owner U.S. Bank/Wells Fargo/Capital One/Zales/many more. My TSP shares were 750,000 shares of USBA deposited in 1986 upon my entrance into Navy at age 17. Inherited from King Edward. This prince HIH-23 of Ukraine will invest in California as no other has before. My AO projects

Indeed‼️

Try it for 2 months and let’s see what happens!! Stop the threats - action speaks more !!

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

No Try … Do it

It doesn't work that way. The money comes from people who are employed in California, not from the State of California. The income tax is withheld by their employers who by law must send it directly to the U.S. Treasury. The State of California does not control that money.

Thank you for your response- my bad! I miss interpreted GN’s response about California’s contribution. Learn something new every day even at 83 years young. 😂

You are not alone. I would estimate based on the social media comments on this issue that 99% of the American populace does not understand this or anything else about federal and state taxation, Social Security, and most other aspects of government functions.

🔥 with 🔥

@governor.ca.gov I have begging for you to do this. Don-old backs down when people stand up against his bullying tactics. I'm very certain that the extra $60B can fund better healthcare coverage and other important things Cali wants vs missile building in Alabama!

I concur. Do it. I’m in a Red state and they need to feel the pain they’ve voted for.