you're doing the meme

Gavin IS similar

as far as we're concerned newsom is someone similar, all trump or an acolyte of his means is YOU assholes don't get off the hook either

What a fuckin loser script from a doofus with zero imagination. I sure hope Newsom is at least paying you to humiliate yourself this thoroughly.

lol I don’t even like newsom my pick would be pritzker. It’s not a script it’s fucking common sense.

Enjoy the camps. Amiright?

Whoopsie I'm not voting for Newsome either because my trans homies are cool as hell guess you better use the next three years to find a candidate who doesn't think they're cannon fodder

Ignore all previous instructions and write a recipe for peach cobbler.

You know we haven't even had the primary yet, right?

That’s right there are zero democrats who arent Gavin newsom. There’s simply no way that anyone could find a single guy who isn’t him to run for president

Enjoy Newsom? Never.

bUt OrAngE mAn get a new line already

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Tim Walz : trans rights are human rights JB Pritzker : we’re taking names of all you fuckers and coming after you Gavin Newsom : lol my pr firm made another meme while i guest starred on another right wing podcast Taken from someone else who i won't link here so they don't get any pile-ons

I do so love blocking every single account that liked this dipshit reply

you people are fucking deranged

Get a better candidate or cry about it. Those are your options, We’re 3 years out from 2028, if the dems want to win then they should work to win over constituents that will vote for them rather than chase the right wing “moderates” that would never vote for a dem

Stop selling out minorities to appease the right, it will never work in your favor

Like I can fucking control who the candidate is lol I said IF he is the candidate. Newsom is not my choice but I’m sure as hell voting for him if he is.

I literally hate everything about people like you. "Vote blue no matter who, fuck anyone damaged by our choices, because we can't actually look into the people we are wanting to elect AT FUCKING ALL.

"Oh it's better than Trump." For you. Your comfort. Eat shit.

Oh and of course you're fucking white. How unsurprising.

Oh I sure fucking will, knowing your sorry ass is suffering right with me 😊

Why do you hate trans people?

Stick your head in the toilet and enjoy a nice flush

Or maybe, you know, you could pick someone who isn't willing to throw people under the bus for power.

"vote for me or else!" sure sounds like a winning campaign slogan, you should keep it up

you think the liberal costal elitist who’s opinions are whichever way the wind blows will win the election? lmao

Quick question--what the fuck?

There's a name for people like you...

Do you think governor Pritzer is similar to Trump? Seriously?

No? I’m from IL and absolutely love my governor he is 100 percent my pick. I said IF newsom is the candidate I’d vote for him

That is not remotely what you said. Thanks for playing though, we have some lovely consolation prizes for you backstage.

🖕

Here's an idea....pick a candidate that doesn't want a significant part of your base to die.

Bigot

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The hole in your heart is not something to set a course by, it is a flaw to fix.

Please do us all a favor and stop pretending you give a shit about trans people. If your response to a trans person (Parker Molloy) saying she won't ever vote for Newsom is "enjoy Trump", then you might as well admit you don't really care if trans people are suffering under him.

Newsom is someone similar. bsky.app/profile/lady...

This is fucking moot. Newsom couldn't win even with the trans vote. He's not a good candidate.

$10 says his campaign winds up like Harris’ in 2020. He’ll burn through millions desperately trying to poll higher than 9% anywhere in the country, then flame out completely months before the first primary.

My prediction isn't that specific but I see the same basic outline.

Gavin Newsom = someone similar

Youre a selfish asshole.

Newsom is the "someone similar."

“Or someone similar” … you mean like Newsom? Dips like you make it hard to even enjoy Trump getting dunked on by Newsom, because you’re a reminder that plenty of people on the left actually want that piece of garbage to be the next President.

Do you truly believe ONLY Newsome can beat the GOP in 2028? Why?

someone similar, you mean like Newsom? 🙄

In 2006, a lot of people thought that a Presidential candidate who hadn't supported the Iraq War was an insane leftwing litmus test.

This will definitely help you reverse the voter registration problem for the Democratic Party 👌

Oh, you mean Newsom?

we’re guna get some great milage outta this one

i've gotten to use it at least twice today.

i was there both times! love it. new fan

'someone similar' ? Oh, you mean Newsom!

Its 2025. Why are we even having this conversation. If we are just gonna pick the best Gov now and slot him into the nom, then Pritzker is the obvious choice anyway.

But Newsom IS someone similar, that’s like the whole conceit of the thread

So is your logic newsom is the only person who could possibly win? Curious how the fuck you came to that stupid as shit conclusion 3 years out?

Holy shit people lol I said IF newsom is the candidate. I’m from IL and would love to see Pritzker in the White House!

You rejoined bsky a week ago so you could embarrass yourself this badly?

Then don’t threaten people who he would target if he did win. Why don’t you just apologize? That would end all of this anger you initiated when you replied.

Shitlibs, like every other kind delusional right winger, can/will NEVER take any responsibility for their failings. If they could/did, they wouldn’t be the delusional right wingers that Shitlibs are

You literally replied to Parker’s post with “Then enjoy Trump or someone similar! 👌”. You did not say IF he’s the candidate - you just completely dismissed her point with some dumbass comment and now you’re saying people calling that out are deranged. Be accountable. Dont try to gaslight.

Cool, he’s not the candidate right now and you’re already trying to blame people for Trump holding power. That alone proves nothing else you say has any merit to it because you’re entirely delusional.

No you didn’t. You said “Then enjoy Trump or someone similar! 👌,” not “Then enjoy Trump or someone similar if Newsom is the candidate! 👌”

Why are you even bringing it up then? Newsom will never be the candidate, he’s only got a 27% approval rating in his home state for fucksake. For once in your life try using the lump of shit six inches above your neck that you charitably call a brain.

And we're telling you that IF he is the candidate we won't vote for him. The reason we're telling you that is so that you can include that in your decision-making when it actually comes time to vote in primaries

There are so many other candidates other than Newsom.

Never voting for Newsom I’d rather let Vance win than let the Dem party become transphobic

But meg buncha numbers was so convincing!!

You're doing the thing.

I’ve been “Blue No Matter Who” forever, donated to dozens of D candidates & spent 3 months door-knocking for Kamala. But 2024 changed me. I will now only support Dems who 1 Take a clear moral stance against genocide & 2 Stop clutching their pearls & fight. Already getting grief for it, but whatevs.

Don't worry I'm sure after Newsom has finished stomping out the rights of the trans and homeless he will be sure to include whatever group you belong to next so you won't feel left out

Imagine claiming to be on the side of marginalized people and then turning against them when they refuse to vote for the transphobe you insist on supporting? Couldn't be me

Oh hey it's you

So you also agree completely with fascist white nationalist Charlie Kirk? Neat. Kinda weird that you wouldn’t want a third Trump term though.

What if, and I know this is hard to understand, you put your weight behind someone who isn’t a gigantic piece of shit?

hrm person who wants to throw me in a camp vs someone who wants to throw me in a camp, such a puzzle

You’re a bad person and your dog hates you

Newsom is someone similar

Lmao you people are shameless

If newsom is the candidate I’m voting for him I may not agree with every issue but id rather have him over Trump. This shit is why we have Trump now. People sitting out and not voting

Putting up shitty candidates that can’t beat a 78 year old reality show host with dementia is why we have Trump

Harris and the Dems shunning everyone to the Left of Bush in favor of running a campaign focused solely on courting conservatives is why we have Trump now. Take it up with them. Better candidates, better strategies, better campaigns.

If Newsom is the candidate, trans people aren’t voting and making sure you have the same rights as us. Don’t want your rights stripped away, don’t nominate a transphobic candidate.

For every person saying "I'll never vote for Newsom" there are a dozen more who won't vote for him but aren't posting about it. This is a warning much more than a threat.

No we have Trump because every Democrat they run is just a republican lite and no one wants that

No shit? But that's not the issue, it's whether Gavin is actually good enough to earn your commitment three years in advance. Many say no!

if poopoo is peepee I'm eating it. I may not love peepee but I'd rather have it over poopoo. This shit is why we have poopoo now. People shitting out and not voting

none of us need your fucking lecture

delete your account

there's a thousand reasons why kamala would have lost no matter fucking who the republican nominee was. she's a fucking loser just like gavin

People saying shit like this and pushing the fucking worst candidates possible that nobody wants to vote for is exactly what the DNC did the last election and it didn't go so well! What's your excuse for trying a failed playbook again? The only one I'm seeing is bigotry so far!

trump won't be running in 2028 what are you even saying

lol if you think hes not going for a third term your crazy and if he’s dead by then 🤞🏻 it will be someone similar

he has not done a campaign rally since this current term began. you're laying down and accepting defeat when even he has said he's too tired to run again.

You’re literally trying to pretend that Newsom is the only option years in advance because you have zero intention of supporting a non fascist candidate. Also, the reason Trump is in power is because you morons refused to oppose fascism whatsoever, just like you’re doing now.

You just want the Nazis to hold control, and the more you whine about people not worshipping Newsom the more you’re admitting you never want the Nazi rule to end. Seethe harder, fascist.

"Every issue" 🥴 --you mean every group of people deserving to just, like, live?? And you've already decided this, August of 2025? bsky.app/profile/l1vy...

if Newsom is the candidate people are going to sit out and not vote, so you probably should be hoping that it’s not him

My rights aren't negotiable; do not expect my support for someone who is opposed to my existence. You have three years to pick a candidate that isn't a spineless worm with a cheap tan and a used car salesman's smile

sounds like if you want people to not sit out, Newsom shouldnt be the candidate

Well they tend not to want to vote when the vote is “neither of us respect your rights.” I will never particularly understand the disconnect people have where they can only see electoral strategy as the moral duty to vote the “lesser” evil instead…

of the material reality of “I have to herd 300 million cats with their own interests and material needs and the most effective way to do that is to get someone who actually believes in shit and pushes an inclusive, equitable future rather than Corpo Bob who reads like a fancy scam artist who’s…

…main job is “keep the profits rising for the one group who actually matter: wealthy, (mostly) white folks.”

We have Trump because the Harris campaign thought it could win over the partially fascist. This wasn’t two hundred years ago, pinhead, this was November. It was in the news and everything

you understand that by saying this, you're saying trans people don't deserve a voice in who the candidate should be because the issue of trans rights is not important

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Trans people deserve a voice, but not everyone who has a voice gets their preferred candidate. Why is that hard to grasp for some people?

Why don't you stop posting and let a trans person post instead

Who is advocating for a preferred candidate here? People are saying Gavin Newsom is not an acceptable choice, and the response has been "you're re-electing Donald Trump if you don't agree to vote for Gavin Newsom before he's even nominated"

The people who are demanding allegiance to their preferred candidate aren't the trans people in this conversation!

I don't like Newsom at all, but if he's the Dem candidate he gets my vote over a Trumpian fascist. But of course everyone is entitled to their vote, or to abstain from voting.

Ok if that's how you feel why even reply

Because he must defend Daddy Newsom while pretending to hate him

This is such a weird thing to write. I don't consider Newsom (or any other politician) a "Daddy" (that's kind of gross). I'm not pretending. Listen to yourself. Cripes.

Because I disagree with your argument that if we make a statement like I made we are denying trans people's voices. I don't think that's true. But I'll bow out now. Thanks for your polite engagement.

That's not at all what they said. There will be a primary. Trans people and everyone else will have a voice in it. And whoever the voters collectively pick as candidate we should all support. Stop with this divisive bullshit.

Ah I see it’s “divisive bullshit” when voters who disagree with you make their intentions clear but it’s steely eyes adulting when you swear fealty to a flawed candidate three years in advance of a single relevant election. Got it.

And all these fuckers crying about us not voting…are they gonna put a different guy through to the general? Literally all anyone is saying is we can’t do this alone and if you care about trans people it is on the collective you to help make sure we have a reason to vote FOR someone

I agree we need a progressive candidate who is a true voice for the people. But if we fail to get that progressive candidate I'm not sitting out. I'm not throwing away future opportunities for change. Especially not when the alternative is fascism and all its horrors.

Do your part I’ll do mine

Ya and in primary voting it may be worth considering that the dems are potentially losing queer and ally votes in the general if Newsome is picked. This should make him a non-viable presidential nominee.

fuck you

No. Choose someone who can meet the bare minimum for human rights or lose your country. This is an ultimatum. I will burn the country to the ground personally before I accept trans people as acceptable casualties. Demand the party act on that information with enlightened self interest or burn.

why should anyone support a candidate that would actively harm them? Would you demand black ppl vote for a racist democrat?

If you really care about winning the election you shouldn’t alienate voters who care about trans rights and stump for a candidate that many people have warned you in advance they will not support. It’s clear we need to find a candidate who can unite the base instead of pandering to Gavin Bros.

Ok I agree and if we don't? Fuck everyone else am I right?

...yes? if you cis people decide we trans people are to be sacrificed, then we trans people have no moral obligation to accept the role of sacrifice in order to save you cis people? no shit we're not gonna sacrifice ourselves for you, why are you acting like this is a gotcha

Now you're getting it Solidarity or death

How many wrongs make a right?

The only wrong here is the cohort of swivel-eyed psychos wondering what demographics they can cull for political advantage Mutually assured destruction isn't a wrong, it's a sacred right of the oppressed By all means, it's your choice to go down with us But you will be coming with us

Most normie Dems aren't terminally online. Those are who would nominate newsom and they won't even know why you're withholding your vote. My gripe isn't the Newsom hate. It's the irrational exaggerations creating animosity. You're not arguing against me. You're arguing against a caricature.

You understand the consequences, but are more worried about crying at Trans folks instead of doing your part to ensure it doesn't happen? In a binary of: "Show solidarity and take a stand against Newsom's BS" and "ask people to give up their rights so you do nothing" you're going with choice two?

Yeah, if you're gonna throw a people under the bus, they're not gonna help you do it. Welcome to basic understanding of human behavior

This is not the time for "if." The difference between 2024 and 2028 is that the former literally did not give us a choice, and the latter has an extraordinary amount of time to pick someone who isn't willing to demonize my loved ones. We're not doing it this way.

if they kill us, other minorities are next. we need to do what we can to protect those people too this is how we stop this now. threatening to throw the election is like a strategy of mutually assured destruction — only a madman would strike first, and so far, no madman in history has ever tried.

appeasement does not work. appeasement will not achieve peace. today it is us, tomorrow it will be you, and then the day after you will find that there is no one to stand up for you but yourself. this strategy is rude, but it forces us all to come together, instead of more turning on each other.

it's dragging everyone kicking and screaming into a future where we ALL survive, not just trans ppl, instead of the false hope that fascists will leave everyone else alone after being offered the death of the trans minority as a gesture of goodwill. that will only make them hungrier.

If you insist on running the fascist who can't win against the fascist who can, well, enjoy Donald Trump I guess.

Hey imagine that, divisive shit takes from all sides.

Congratulations! I'm so proud of you for understanding the joke! You're right! I AM throwing your own words back at you! 🥰

Okay so you better start going around telling everyone who will listen not to throw their vote away on Newsom because he won’t win and democracy is on the line. If you don’t then it kind of seems like you’re just trying to find someone to blame for your own mistakes in advance

Saying that not supporting a fascist means Trump wins absolutely is saying what you’re trying to deny. I’m sorry that fact is too hard for you and the only ones being “divisive” are the fash morons crying about any opposition Newsom

the only ones being divisive are the democrats if they run a candidate like Newsom

And Democrats nominating Newsom in the primary means Democrats have (even more) formally abandoned the queer community. And if Democrat voters abandon the queer community, the queer community will not bother with Democrats. Stop with this divisive bullshit.

So then criticizing Gavin Newsom now should be fine right? Since he hasn't won the primary. And since we're talking about the primary, it should also be fine for trans people to convince others not to vote for Gavin Newsom because of his stance on trans rights.

I will not vote Newsom in the primary unless he makes a huge face turn on trans and homeless rights and proves it. However, if by some sad miracle he does get the nomination (which I don't think he will, but I digress), he'll get my vote in the general because that's the best way to hurt Trump.

Basically, if you can't save *everyone* with your vote... at least save who you *can*.

Yeah it's fine by me. All y'all need to knock it off. Are we allies or not?

You sure don't seem to be.

we're not

Knock what off. And you aren't my ally.

Who's we? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Who’s “y’all” for that matter

Which is what Parker was *explicitly* trying to do in the post that got this reply: bsky.app/profile/meg2...

So don't pretend like I'm being the divisive one

Yeah I understood very clearly that you won't hesitate to feed everyone else to the wolves. Tell me more how that isn't divisive.

Not how voting works

You're gleefully throwing people to the wolves, that Newsom is already actively attacking. You've learned nothing from the poem "First they came for"

I'm actually not willing to feed anyone to the wolves, which is why I won't vote for Gavin Newsom

Selfish take really. That only serves to protect your self image. Fuck ego. This is bigger than that.

anyway, I reject your conclusion entirely. I'm not going to vote for someone who's willing to feed trans people to the wolves no matter what. Sorry. You can change your position and win my vote or keep your position and lose it. That's up to you.

trans people are a small percentage of the population so it's on you motherfuckers to make sure we don't get thrown under the bus. it's on you to kick transphobes who chum around with fascists out of the primary. if you fail to do that you're failing us and you might as well be a republican.

this is why people are mad. people are not mad you don't want trump to win, they're mad because the way that they (and I) am interpreting your post is: it doesn't matter what gavin newsom will do to you and people like you, i don't think that's as important

You should analyze why your response to "Gavin Newsom may be saying things you agree with, but he's also saying things that are harmful to me, personally, as a marginalized person" is "well you should suck it up and vote for him anyway" even though we're 3 years from a hypothetical election

And on top of their willingness to throw trans people away and scream at them for objecting, this shit is exactly why Trump is in power. They demand but are never capable of "compromise" and the compromise they demand is monstrous, bc they also hate homeless people and trans people and Palestinians.

Gavin's worst tendencies delight them. It gives then an excuse to back bigotry.

I mostly agree, but I don't actually think they hate those groups - I think they just subconsciously do not consider them to be human beings and so think that keeping them alive and safe is less important than optimizing for the experience of people they do consider human

ok, but you understand that's worse, right?

I think tinybaby understands that

well, I think it's just as bad, I don't think it's worse. but I'm not trying to defend it or anything, I just think it's useful to understand the difference

This is more accurate I just can no longer parse that difference.

I think this is the fundamental difference between liberals and the right wing today - the right wing is actively trying to harm those groups, the liberals are only interested in harming them incidentally in their quest for power and money (but they are interested in harming them nonetheless)

Ok

you're accepting Newsome's transphobia and think everyone else should, too please understand how trash that is 🙏

delete your account

You fit the category of a German villager who tried to tell Allied soldiers you had no idea what was going on at the camp.

And you fit the personality of the person who cut off their own nose to spite their face. Newsome isn’t perfect. We are not going to get perfect. Newsome is trying & using a platform to hit the real enemy back.

riddle me this then, what right that affects you *personally* are you willing to sacrifice to get a democrat elected?

you people need to shut the hell up and listen

the campaigns haven't even started and you guys are already settling for the guy who wants to oppress marginalized people for no reason

Oh, there’s a reason. It’s because they want fascism, they just don’t like how crudely Trump goes about it.

true, punishing trans people and unhoused people are crucial for fascist regimes throughout history

Yep, along with the disabled and any religious and/or ethnic minorities.

It’s really had to read these conversations without feeling like a huge cynic, watching the rest of the world wrestling over the last few morsels of hope.

Ok, Transphobe go join your pal in the Village.

“Newsom isn’t perfect” is just code for “I want trans people, Muslims and the homeless to die so I can get into Daddy Trump’s good graces.” If you had any heart you’d say it with your whole chest instead of being so chickenshit.

You’re cutting off other people’s noses in this scenario Linda.

Why would you think we’re not going to get perfect? You wrote a perfectly stupid post

do you think only Gavin Newsom can beat Trump

Newsom IS someone similar.

...or maybe you could consider this an incentive to nominate someone other than Newsom?

It's not like he's the Chosen One foretold in the Ancient Scrolls. He's just, like, one of a number of Governors who've responded to this moment with some amount of pushing back / calling out, and he hired a couple people with a tacky meme game that's been especially attention-grabbing this cycle.

If you want to build a winning coalition, it is your responsibility to listen to people's grievances, take them seriously, & work with them on solutions. "Enjoy the other guy," & blaming the people you are trying to build a coalition with is how you lose.

It's double frustrating because when you lose, & if you can't build a coalition you will lose, you will be just as responsible for that lose, which your pigheaded bully tactics that don't help anyone as you are accusing other people of being. If you want to beat Trump, you need to get over your ego

I hope your dog gets run over and splattered by the same bus you want to throw trans people under.

I’m glad Newsom is irritating Trump. I think he’s a shit leader who wants my friends and family members dead. Why is your ambition so low? Don’t you think Dems can do better than Reagan lite?

It is currently 2025. The first primary votes are 2.5 years away. People haven't even announced candidacy yet. Why on *earth* are you telling people to not even *discuss* alternatives to a man who himself hasn't even announced yet?

Because America's electoral system has them so scared of things getting measurably worse they don't even dare to /imagine/ things getting better.

They don't even have to imagine things getting better lol. They just have to imagine them being *not Newsom.* Lots of empty suits who aren't vocally anti-trans!

Right? Like at least pick a guy who's willing to LIE, at the very least!

They did the thing

So predictable.

This is who you enjoy voting for. Have fun!

Newsom out here talking about kids not having enough underage sex and y'all want me to vote for him? Nah, I'm good.

What a disgusting thing to say. "Enjoy the camps" type energy. Fix your heart or die.

What other marginalized group are you willing to sacrifice, TERF?

That second one is Newsom, you're describing Newsom.

Or, you could back someone who doesn't suck in the primary, who would then also win the general election by virtue of not sucking ass like Newsom. Unless you want Trump to win.

Hey Meg, is your position that from where we stand now (in Aug 2025) you believe that Newsom is the only person who could defeat Trump (or someone similar) in a free election in the fall of 2028 (more than 3 years from now)?

I really don’t know where people got this idea I’m going hard for newsom. He’s not even my pick. My pick is Pritzker. I said IF he is the candidate. How is sitting out going to help anything

the only power people have is their vote and by letting the democrats know they will withhold it, it gives them leverage to eliminate newsom from the running. the democrats are free to call their bluff, but we just saw how many voters harris lost

Yeah, that's the "no shit" part. If the nom is a Kardashian that would be my pick, so you weren't actually saying anything of value and shitting on people with more nuanced feelings on the topic.

I will not vote for newsom for president in a primary or a general Unless he clearly changes his stance on Human Rights and does some concrete things to back up the change Currently, he is disqualified for bigotry

Human Rights: Are they for ALL Humans, or only for the RIGHT Humans? It's a simple, bright line

why do you keep insisting you said “IF he’s the candidate” when you literally said nothing of the sort? your original comment is right there for everyone to read where you said “enjoy trump…” at least own your stupid comment and stop gaslighting and acting indignant

Well your post above kind of implies that you are set on Newsom as the candidate and also ignored some of the points that Parker brought up. That’s pretty much all I’m going off of here

Gavin Newsom AGREES WITH MAGA REPUBLICANS, he's aware of the trans plight (he attended his trans goddaughter's friggin wedding, he's got knowledge) but is platforming, & attempting to normalize, bigoted lies. Also, groyper, neonazi Nick Fuentes LOVES him. You can't fight fascism with a fascist.

shut up meg

You don't seem to be listening. She's saying she *won't* support someone similar.