unironic use of the phrase "purity test" is the best way to signal to everyone that you're a selfish amoral piece of shit who would eagerly sacrifice any marginalized community you aren't part of in order to preserve your own comfort
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Sounds like a liberal to me
aug 31, 2025, 11:51 pm • 8 0 • view
Imagine pepole thinking that not attacking the marginallized is a "purity test"
sep 1, 2025, 12:14 pm • 8 1 • view
i keep asking the liberals shrieking about purity tests what right that affects them personally are they willing to sacrifice to get a democrat elected. all i can gather from them is that they really don't like when i ask that question.
sep 1, 2025, 1:18 am • 107 8 • view
It just means they don't care personally about the thing they're calling a purity test. I thought we all worked this out weeks or months ago tbh.
sep 1, 2025, 2:58 pm • 5 0 • view
I think we are speaking with the same complicit Democrats!
sep 1, 2025, 2:43 am • 29 0 • view
i think so too!
sep 1, 2025, 2:51 am • 27 0 • view
i’ve been watching them long enough to see them go mask off full fash. They ain’t democrats.
sep 1, 2025, 7:16 am • 8 0 • view
No, "full fash" is simply an accurate description of a Democrat
sep 1, 2025, 1:23 pm • 12 0 • view
it might be, but in my experience they tend to avoid overt antisemitic tropes in public
sep 1, 2025, 1:38 pm • 2 0 • view
The mask is the point. The difference is conservatives are honest in their hatred and allegiances.
sep 1, 2025, 2:59 pm • 8 0 • view
Really? Wow.
sep 1, 2025, 6:18 pm • 0 0 • view
No quicker way to a block from Blue MAGA than to tell them support for abortion is a purity test too far.
sep 1, 2025, 12:14 pm • 10 0 • view
Which is funny as hell because they were saying exactly that leading up to 2020.
sep 1, 2025, 2:19 pm • 7 0 • view
Hell they think the purity test of "maybe don't agree with the nazis on your podcast" is a bridge too far
sep 1, 2025, 3:35 pm • 6 0 • view
Yeah, I got a purity test. Puriteez nuts!
sep 1, 2025, 1:21 pm • 3 0 • view
Liberals who threw Palestinians under the bus back in 2024 and liberals who are hyping up Gavin Newsom have no fucking ground to stand on when it comes to “purity tests.”
aug 31, 2025, 8:01 pm • 116 8 • view
That Venn diagram is a circle
aug 31, 2025, 9:51 pm • 38 0 • view
youtu.be/BsVx7Xp3U2w?...
sep 1, 2025, 12:18 am • 3 1 • view
youtu.be/q_Msueu4a8I?...
sep 1, 2025, 12:11 am • 10 1 • view
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzjQ... They went on to try to wipe them all off the face earth. They defeated kings. Hitler was elected to serve the capitalists. Communism is only a threat to fascists capitalists&the ruling class. Only a revolution will end fascism&capitalism at the same time&they know it
sep 1, 2025, 6:35 pm • 1 0 • view
“Purity tests”, by the entitled and privileged, are also a way to avoid the more strenuous parts of adulting - the tough compromises required to move forward.
sep 1, 2025, 1:14 pm • 1 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 3:30 pm • 4 0 • view
the "purity test" that was too much for you: don't be hitler
sep 1, 2025, 7:53 pm • 1 0 • view
you are so much of a fascist that you are triggered at fascist being told to eat shit. Just how pathetic can you get?
sep 1, 2025, 7:51 pm • 1 0 • view
you pointed out earlier - indirect action like voting, legislation, econ pressure are all for naught in a capitalist system so simple say "purity test","my purity test", or "unironic use of the phrase" without a call for direct insurgent martial force is mere narcissistic grandstanding
sep 1, 2025, 5:45 pm • 1 0 • view
and that call to stop genocide was still too much for your bitch ass lmao
sep 1, 2025, 7:52 pm • 1 0 • view
We know there's no strategic gain to accommodating far-right policies or perspectives. We know it's a losing proposition. We've done the science. www.cambridge.org/core/journal...
sep 1, 2025, 12:15 am • 52 7 • view
sep 1, 2025, 5:31 am • 29 2 • view
Are you suggesting there is a perfect candidate everyone should vote for?
sep 1, 2025, 3:29 am • 2 0 • view
don't need a perfect candidate, just don't need an anti-woman, homophobic, transphobic, racist or anti-homeless one you're democrats, the so-called "lesser evil" and you got 3 years to find someone surely you can find someone who fits that criteria in your whole stinking party, no?
sep 1, 2025, 8:24 pm • 1 0 • view
Nice strawman!
sep 1, 2025, 7:03 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm suggesting that anyone who wants to be a candidate better learn to purify themselves, or accept that they've already lost.
sep 1, 2025, 3:41 am • 24 0 • view
Ok, wait, so a candidate should pass a purity test, but there's no viable candidate and no purity test? Sorry, Im getting confused.
sep 1, 2025, 3:44 am • 3 0 • view
I can see that you're getting confused. It's evident in how you're inventing premises to be confused by. Would you like to start over and ask a better question?
sep 1, 2025, 3:57 am • 15 0 • view
Yes, I'll start again. (Might need a 2-parter) Im confused why ppl who say candidates shld pass some purity test get angry if others say theyre expecting candidates to pass some purity test. For ex: Cand A takes AIPAC $, B isn't pro-trans enuf, C's ok w/Ai. Theres always something, none perfect...
sep 1, 2025, 4:22 am • 3 0 • view
The problem is that what Dems are complaining about isn't a "purity test." If I hand you a gold bar, you can test it for the purity of the gold. If I hand you a cow pie & ask "what purity is this gold?" That is an insane question. You can't meaningfully talk about testing the cow pie for purity.
sep 1, 2025, 5:05 am • 9 0 • view
Dems are talking about running candidates who oppose civil rights & fundamentally are not progressive, & talking about "purity tests". So if that's the language they want to use, then fine, but they need to accept they the burden is on them to purify themselves.
sep 1, 2025, 5:05 am • 10 0 • view
Of course, no one *wants* a cow pie on its own, but a wall of cow pies and gold is strong enough to stop a flood promising full scale death and destruction. There are not enough gold bars to stop a deluge, so many wonder why wouldn't ppl want to manage the giant threat first?
sep 1, 2025, 5:23 am • 1 0 • view
To be clear, your "flood" has no place in the metaphor. Newsom is actively courting the far right so he can publicly agree with them. If you want to use a "flood" in the metaphor, then remove the cow pie entirely, & consider how one would test the flood for it's purity as a bar of gold.
sep 1, 2025, 5:33 am • 1 0 • view
I'm trying to imagine a possible world where you typed that in good faith. Unfortunately, my imagination has limits.
sep 1, 2025, 5:29 am • 8 0 • view
Sorry, why was that hard to understand?
sep 1, 2025, 5:33 am • 0 0 • view
Blud, just say you hate transsexuals people. We understand, it's the inherent urge of a liberal to throw minorities under the bus.
sep 1, 2025, 5:42 am • 1 0 • view
Congratulations, you're as smart as a bot.
sep 1, 2025, 5:51 am • 0 0 • view
The <2 evils ppl understand that there is no purity, & see the 2 evils not as crap vs crap, but as crap vs immediate danger, Defcon 1, bitches gotta go. (Oops 3 parts, sorry...)
sep 1, 2025, 4:22 am • 2 0 • view
So my ? is why are ppl using any 1 major prob as a litmus test or decision maker if it kneecaps our ability to oust someone who fails every litmus test that exists? Ty.
sep 1, 2025, 4:22 am • 2 0 • view
The problem here is that we're not expecting someone to be perfect, we're expecting them to have acceptable positions on the big picture stuff. The Democrats ensure that such people don't make it through their rigged primary process, and instead we're left with trash like Clinton, Biden, and Harris.
sep 1, 2025, 4:37 am • 2 0 • view
Yes, I respect that.
sep 1, 2025, 5:02 am • 1 0 • view
Congratulations on winning the debate as demonstrated by the insult only replies. Absolutists thinkers… they group anyone who disagrees with them in the slightest as “evil”.
sep 1, 2025, 4:29 am • 0 0 • view
Absolutism is ok, I think; genocide bad is a good ethic. Direct actors & enablers shld be tossed. My immediate concern is having power to do that. If current regime stays, genocide continues in + quickly spreads globally. Same w trans hate, deportations, loss of life, rights, etc. Lotta issues rn
sep 1, 2025, 4:47 am • 1 0 • view
HAVING MORAL OR ETHICAL STANDARDS IS NOT A FUCKING PURITY TEST, MOTHERFUCKER!
sep 1, 2025, 4:34 am • 1 0 • view
Old age should hurry up because your brain is rotting at an incredible rate.
sep 1, 2025, 4:03 am • 6 0 • view
Yes, because lazy ageism is a sign of great intelligence.
sep 1, 2025, 4:27 am • 0 0 • view
Fuck your old ass, Methuselah.
sep 1, 2025, 4:34 am • 2 0 • view
That sounds like the sort of thing an old fool might say. Keep rotting.
sep 1, 2025, 4:30 am • 6 0 • view
I wouldn't say it.
sep 1, 2025, 4:32 am • 1 0 • view
You aren't a fool 😉
sep 1, 2025, 4:35 am • 1 0 • view
Yes, ok. You too.
sep 1, 2025, 4:50 am • 0 0 • view
I'm not elderly though. You are.
sep 1, 2025, 4:55 am • 3 0 • view
Ok
sep 1, 2025, 5:06 am • 0 0 • view
How does it feel to be rotting?
sep 1, 2025, 5:09 am • 2 0 • view
Breaking news: Person finds out how elections work!
sep 1, 2025, 5:41 am • 1 0 • view
No, only that there are many corrupt/compromised/contaminated candidates we should NOT vote for and common sense tells us we should make sure we know who they are.
sep 1, 2025, 1:27 pm • 4 0 • view
are you suggesting transphobia, camps for the homeless and genocide is "good" to you?
sep 1, 2025, 7:55 pm • 3 1 • view
No one is doing this.
sep 1, 2025, 3:21 pm • 4 0 • view
Your standards for perfect is on the ground and you still failed.
sep 1, 2025, 5:40 am • 8 0 • view
Anyone who has a standard for perfect is not a serious person.
sep 1, 2025, 5:42 am • 1 0 • view
Which is funny because you think "No compromise for trans rights and no genocide = perfect" 😂 It should be the bate minimum, idiot!
sep 1, 2025, 5:50 am • 9 0 • view
*bare
sep 1, 2025, 6:39 am • 5 0 • view
Are you a fucking child with a baby brain? Because when you say dumbass shit like this it sounds like you’re a child with a baby brain.
sep 1, 2025, 1:37 pm • 1 0 • view
No. Why would you assume that? But there should be a candidate that doesn't destroy coalitions by throwing part of the coalition under the bus then wonder why they lose supporters. "Perfect candidate" is another lazy attack. We have 3 years to discuss candidates. Anointing a chosen one is stupid
sep 1, 2025, 5:07 am • 10 0 • view
Im.) not attacking anyone. Purity suggests pefection, so it was a logical question. There's no gotcha happening here. I agree, there shld only be good candidates. Sadly, that'll take some time to achieve, some chipping away. Might hafta put out a really big fire 1st.
sep 1, 2025, 5:29 am • 1 0 • view
Yeah. That's why they renamed "having standards" to "purity test", to make it sound like something it isn't. You should be more skeptical of political language.
sep 1, 2025, 1:35 pm • 5 0 • view
No, purity test only suggests we should rule out candidates that are contaminated with a high degree of undesirable traits. In most political discourse, this is called "vetting."
sep 1, 2025, 1:28 pm • 4 0 • view
How did we get to the point that having standards is derided?
sep 1, 2025, 1:32 pm • 3 0 • view
"It's her turn."
sep 1, 2025, 1:35 pm • 4 0 • view
People forget that in 2008 more Hillary supporters voted for McCain than Bernie supporters for Trump in 2016. Obama pissed off the "stuck in '92" party leadership. ... and they STILL haven't learned a damned thing.
sep 1, 2025, 2:45 pm • 2 0 • view
So you failed to read for comprehension. "Purity" is the BS attack laid on people pointing out flaws. "Perfection" is just rewording of "purity". So we agree we need to chip away and confront candidates on unreasonable policies, like throwing part of the coalition under the bus. Nobody's perfect
sep 1, 2025, 2:43 pm • 5 0 • view
Fully 100 million US adult residents are systematically disenfranchised Who's 'everyone'?
sep 1, 2025, 6:30 pm • 1 0 • view
People are asking for "good," you whiny schmuck, not "perfect." And y'all can't even manage that because you're too busy gargling Dick Cheney's and Charlie Kirk's balls.
sep 1, 2025, 6:59 pm • 2 0 • view
man shut up
sep 1, 2025, 3:20 pm • 2 0 • view
Disagree. I’m a leftist organizing anti-fascist resistance in Fargo, and most of our opposition is not coming from the right, it’s coming from young leftists claiming we are not pro-Palestinian *enough*. So they threaten and interfere with our protests. Purity tests favor extremism over unity.
sep 1, 2025, 1:40 pm • 2 0 • view
got a clue for you if leftists are telling you you're not pro-palestinian "enough," you best get *more* pro-palestinian ezpz, problem solved
sep 1, 2025, 9:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Unity is false comfort. Unity is useless if everybody unites behind the wrong thing.
sep 1, 2025, 9:41 pm • 2 0 • view
What the actual lololol fuck.
sep 1, 2025, 9:49 pm • 0 0 • view
LMFAO Sure you are buddy
sep 1, 2025, 9:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Have you tried being pro-Palestine enough?
sep 1, 2025, 2:57 pm • 9 0 • view
You're a fucking liberal. STFU
sep 1, 2025, 1:52 pm • 8 0 • view
Do they really not know or do they somehow earnestly believe they’re fooling anyone ? I can never tell
sep 1, 2025, 9:47 pm • 2 0 • view
They don't know, I think. "Don't worry, I'm super liberal" they say with absolutely no hint of irony
sep 1, 2025, 9:49 pm • 3 0 • view
Oh Jesus 💀
sep 1, 2025, 9:50 pm • 2 0 • view
Tbf, I don't think this person has said that, but I also don't care enough to check
sep 1, 2025, 9:51 pm • 2 0 • view
Oh no I got that but they probably think it Either way just ridiculous
sep 1, 2025, 9:53 pm • 2 0 • view
I have had someone say that to me in person within the last couple years...
sep 1, 2025, 9:54 pm • 2 0 • view
JFC
sep 1, 2025, 9:56 pm • 2 0 • view
Sounds like you could solve this issue by just being more pro-Palestine?
sep 1, 2025, 2:41 pm • 14 0 • view
😂 🤡 💩
sep 1, 2025, 9:46 pm • 1 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 2:17 pm • 4 1 • view
*leftish not leftist.
sep 1, 2025, 2:28 pm • 7 0 • view
"extremism" is a funny way to say "zero tolerance for genocide"
sep 1, 2025, 1:43 pm • 30 0 • view
also your tl indicates that you erroneously define blind support of establishment democrats as "leftist" and "antifascist" so
sep 1, 2025, 1:49 pm • 30 0 • view
there's a reason you aren't getting pushback from the right
sep 1, 2025, 1:50 pm • 31 0 • view
🎯
sep 1, 2025, 7:02 pm • 3 0 • view
How do you fight fascism by supporting the continued existence of a Genocidal apartheid state?
sep 1, 2025, 6:27 pm • 4 0 • view
Something about this Bleet tells me you were on the pro-Harris train instead of the anti-genocide train and you're particularly invested in conflating the two for the sake of your party's image.
sep 1, 2025, 6:55 pm • 4 0 • view
*skeet
sep 1, 2025, 9:48 pm • 1 0 • view
Assuming you're not a Trump voter with buyer's remorse, anyway, but I can't actually say I've encountered any, either. Never met a conservative that wasn't an evil bastard.
sep 1, 2025, 6:57 pm • 2 0 • view
The core motivation of liberalism as an ideology is personal comfort. Liberals will fight to preserve their own personal comfort, which includes thinking of themselves as the smartest and a Good Person(tm). Point out their failures or how they're actually not Good(tm) and the claws come out.
sep 1, 2025, 1:59 pm • 13 1 • view
👍👍👍BAM!
sep 1, 2025, 1:30 pm • 0 0 • view
We learned that quite well with them pushing Kamala last fall. Worked out so well for them.
aug 31, 2025, 7:54 pm • 48 0 • view
OG's learned that in 2016 when we couldn't get an old man socialist on the ballot because it was "her turn" now. Nvm the fact she ran the State Dept like Kissenger, and was problematic for both sides. Regardless, as long as the DNC clings to Neoliberalism, they'll forever be a weak political party
sep 1, 2025, 1:25 pm • 12 0 • view
Purity test is nothing but party discipline and we desperately lack it.
sep 1, 2025, 6:22 pm • 1 0 • view
I like my politicians like I like my water: purity tested to make sure it won't kill me.
sep 1, 2025, 12:20 pm • 15 0 • view
"purity test" is for those who realize "race realism" is too on the nose.
sep 1, 2025, 4:39 pm • 0 0 • view
I can't think of a positive political connotation for the word "purity"
sep 1, 2025, 2:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Purity of the drugs one is about to consume maybe
sep 1, 2025, 2:37 pm • 0 0 • view
It is useful in chemistry
sep 1, 2025, 2:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Liberals should be purity tested harder. It's about time they feel shame for their words and deeds.
aug 31, 2025, 11:58 pm • 55 2 • view
They have to be able to feel shame first.
sep 1, 2025, 1:53 am • 27 0 • view
They can feel fear.
sep 1, 2025, 1:06 pm • 10 0 • view
Close enough for me!
sep 1, 2025, 6:54 pm • 1 0 • view
Up 'til now, they haven't had much to fear. The deck is thoroughly stacked in their favor.
sep 1, 2025, 5:29 pm • 2 0 • view
But like you said, up 'til now.
sep 1, 2025, 5:30 pm • 3 0 • view
We've made some headway, but never underestimate party insiders' desire to maintain the status quo. Never. It will take a lot of time and effort to be a real threat to their power. I'm not saying we can't, but it'll be one race or two races at a time with them fighting tooth and nail.
sep 1, 2025, 5:33 pm • 2 0 • view
Told a guy the other day to list which communities he was okay with sacrificing in the name of political expediency. The answer was "none, BUT if that's what we have to do, I'll do it". Fuckin'... that's not "none", that's "all of them", ya prick!
sep 1, 2025, 2:15 am • 51 5 • view
every person that utters "purity test" or "virtue signal" is always a tell that they are pissed off that anybody would actually take the time to better themselves and others. they just don't want people making them look bad they don't want to lift a finger unless it's to point it at you
sep 1, 2025, 2:04 am • 27 0 • view
People saying "if you do not vote for Gavin Newsom and support him without reservation you are literally StalinHitler" carping about a purity test is pretty rich.
sep 1, 2025, 12:17 am • 25 1 • view
Don’t conflate Stalin with the failed painter, it’s Holocaust denial.
sep 1, 2025, 2:01 pm • 1 0 • view
Yet they do it.
sep 1, 2025, 3:02 pm • 3 0 • view
You know what people who don’t like purity tests get? That’s right. Cholera.
sep 1, 2025, 1:56 am • 8 0 • view
Purity test is merely a liberal signaling that they are willing to sacrifice anyone or anything to make sure they get their way and that they don't really care for the idea of people who have ethical standards.
sep 1, 2025, 2:24 am • 26 0 • view
Typically followed by…”you’re the reason we got Trump.” Sigh.
sep 1, 2025, 6:40 am • 16 0 • view
Not really, it's about trying to strive for realistically best outcomes for those people we all care about. You can kick and scream all you want but it won't change the fact that you will need a coalition for power and without power you can't do shit.
aug 31, 2025, 8:56 pm • 4 0 • view
Fuck you, fuck West Coast Patrick Bateman. trans rights are human rights. Stay at brunch Centrist trash, the adults are talking
sep 1, 2025, 12:11 am • 5 0 • view
Soft fascism is literally how we got here. We've tried your way and look what it got us. Fuck off and make room for the people who want better for ALL not just your comfort
aug 31, 2025, 11:41 pm • 22 0 • view
Then why do you guys keep purity testing out everyone left of Center instead of forming a coalition with progressives?
aug 31, 2025, 10:11 pm • 97 1 • view
are you allowed to use this argument? won't time cops show up?
aug 31, 2025, 10:38 pm • 21 0 • view
I dunno who you think I am but I would advocate for trying to build the largest possible group, strongly leaning progressive/left. However the distribution is something like this 1112789 You can't have all the 1's excluding each other from the group when the 7 + 8 + 9 just want to say "r*****"
aug 31, 2025, 10:18 pm • 0 0 • view
What the hell are you talking about
aug 31, 2025, 11:04 pm • 42 0 • view
Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the ball nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of balls and takes the place of the 1st ball. The formerly 1st ball becomes the 2nd, the 2nd becomes the 3rd, & the 4th falls off the cliff. Time works the same way.
aug 31, 2025, 11:09 pm • 10 1 • view
I think he's saying that a winning coalition can't just be hot people, you need to court the fugly vote too
aug 31, 2025, 11:52 pm • 4 0 • view
Oooooooh yeah okay I can get behind that
aug 31, 2025, 11:59 pm • 5 0 • view
He's claiming that the vast majority of people (unclear if he means all Americans or likely Dem voters) are on the "right-wing" side of things. He's just expressing it in a weird way. He's saying if there were 29 voters, 9 of them are on the far-right, 8 are slightly less right-wing, etc.
aug 31, 2025, 11:31 pm • 8 0 • view
His logic is that the left-side (which in his estimation is 3 to 5 people out of 29) HAS to reach rightward in order to get a majority. Of course, this is all predicated on what I believe to be a false assumption; that most voters are right-wing.
aug 31, 2025, 11:31 pm • 13 0 • view
Pretty much all opinion polling and studies on the subject consistently find majority to super-majority support for left-wing policy and that politicians generally think their constituents are more conservative than they actually are.
sep 1, 2025, 9:19 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah but they don't vote cause they too busy in-fighting. [Looks around]
sep 1, 2025, 9:52 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm sure you have data that backs up this absurd claim.
sep 1, 2025, 9:55 pm • 0 0 • view
He's got Dukat as pfp, he doesn't know what he's talking about either
aug 31, 2025, 11:05 pm • 28 0 • view
That's what I was gonna say....💁♀️
sep 1, 2025, 12:53 am • 8 0 • view
How do you build a progressive/left group around right-wing candidates in a right-wing party?
sep 1, 2025, 3:41 am • 4 0 • view
I mean considering how often BlueMAGA Liberals have dropped the Ableist Hard-R in the last two weeks.... Not really an argument that works in your favor.
sep 1, 2025, 3:36 am • 8 0 • view
Ohhhhh... Nm you're clownshoe enough to think that we have to keep "reaching right" and not that th primary reason the vast majority of people stayed th fuck home is because they actually have moralistic integrity & refuse to sign off on a right-wing genocidal Gov even if it is blue.
sep 1, 2025, 3:42 am • 6 0 • view
This is both prima facie nonsensical and also I don’t think we should let people who use slurs in our coalition because our coalition would also have the people who they call slurs in it. You would probably understand why this is bad if you weren’t a moron grasping for power at all costs.
aug 31, 2025, 11:09 pm • 22 0 • view
Just tell us which marginalized groups you're happy to sacrifice to make the bad orange man go away for a term
aug 31, 2025, 10:22 pm • 18 0 • view
What?
aug 31, 2025, 11:06 pm • 9 0 • view
Your proposed "coalition": imgflip.com/i/a4pul4
aug 31, 2025, 10:42 pm • 5 0 • view
Your coalition has been systematically shedding any ability or inclination to enact progressive change for the past 30 years and has become a flabby, greedy remnant of its formal self, so excuse me if your ~realpolitik~ shit doesn't stir me.
aug 31, 2025, 10:09 pm • 48 0 • view
It's a fair point but show me the political cause that didn't eventually implode. I'm not advocating for any specific group or movement. I'm advocating for political activity within existing structures and coalition building in order to actually get power and affect change. Apparently that's fascist
aug 31, 2025, 10:13 pm • 1 0 • view
It has been proven time and time and time again that voters respond to politicians taking principled moral stands and sticking to them. Bullshit weaselly focus-grouped triangulation does nothing but stir contempt. We're taking a stand here. People with backbones can join us, others can fuck off.
aug 31, 2025, 10:16 pm • 12 0 • view
I think most of us would rather let it all burn than maintain existing structures that insist we keep sacrificing basic human rights. Hatred of the status quo is why Trump won. It's not like 70 million people just hate like that. Regular people were sick of it and thought he would be different. 🤷♂️
sep 1, 2025, 3:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Most in this thread, I mean. Like... I don't feel represented and we just keep getting more cops and less rights so... Give us something decent or idgaf. I can move to Mexico.
sep 1, 2025, 3:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Lol. Lmao, even.
aug 31, 2025, 10:16 pm • 3 0 • view
What change? The "incremental reforms" democrats have sold us the last 40-some years have failed. They don't want to change. You don't want to change. You just want to be able to be able to safely ignore the horrors again.
sep 1, 2025, 1:15 am • 7 0 • view
i mean the existing structures *are* fascist, so, yeah
aug 31, 2025, 10:14 pm • 41 0 • view
The problem is that therefore, absent complete revolution, you don't matter at all, right? Like, how do you make life concretely better for actual people, within their lifespans?
sep 1, 2025, 1:13 am • 0 0 • view
"All causes decay so we should simply accept the decaying structures around us instead of building newer, better ones that will actually work" is not the banger summation of political theory that you think it is. You already conceded that the Democratic Party doesn't work anymore. (cont)
sep 1, 2025, 2:24 am • 6 0 • view
The machinery is broken. Its usefulness for gaining and exercising power is EXPIRED. But you'd have us vainly try to puppet the corpse instead of finding our OWN way to power and inviting others to leave the grave with us. You fucking suck, dude. People like you are why we're in this mess.
sep 1, 2025, 2:24 am • 4 0 • view
What's it called when you do the same thing over and over expecting a different result?
aug 31, 2025, 11:21 pm • 14 0 • view
liberalism
sep 1, 2025, 1:47 am • 4 0 • view
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzjQ... They went on to try to wipe them all off the face earth. They defeated kings. Hitler was elected to serve the capitalists. Communism is only a threat to fascists capitalists&the ruling class. Only a revolution will end fascism&capitalism at the same time&they know it
sep 1, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Salvador aiunda
sep 1, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
what “realistic best outcome” involved throwing trans people under the bus? enlighten me, quickly.
sep 1, 2025, 2:22 am • 2 0 • view
Okay, then why aren't you telling the Dem establishment to nominate someone more electable?
sep 1, 2025, 4:00 am • 4 0 • view
I will never allow transphobes into any coalition built from the left. Trans rights are human rights
sep 1, 2025, 12:47 am • 20 0 • view
Who are the people we all care about?
aug 31, 2025, 9:36 pm • 14 0 • view
It kinda reads as "take the fucking crumbs we give you and be grateful because they'll give you even less, you swine!"
sep 1, 2025, 3:39 pm • 2 0 • view
- LGBTQ+ - Gazans - Ukrainian's - People fleeing persecution - People suffering with lack of health care - People suffering from the cost of living crisis - School children who want to be safe and educated - Woman and their right to choose - People who want to live free from religion etc
sep 1, 2025, 3:43 pm • 0 0 • view
"you will need a coalition" --guy who wants you to sacrifice members of your coalition
sep 1, 2025, 4:09 pm • 1 0 • view
"...you will need a coalition for power and without power you can't do shit." Using your words, you are saying SOLIDARITY is the only way but then you say that it isn't for everyone, just everyone like you? Sounds like you agree, but then you say no you don't. Complicit isn't a good look.
sep 1, 2025, 2:48 am • 5 0 • view
Sounds like the Democrats should be listening to voters who oppose the genocide they were supporting, instead of trying to force people to accept genocide. You know, to grow a coalition. You have to listen to additional people to do that. Yon can't just demand people join your coalition.
aug 31, 2025, 9:47 pm • 23 0 • view
Exactly, we have to be realistic and choose how to vote based on the reality. Childish purity tests like "vote blue no matter who" may make people feel good about themselves but they're not a serious way to do politics.
aug 31, 2025, 9:14 pm • 41 0 • view
Vote with your heart in the primary, head in the general. If you won't vote blue in the general, you know what you get? Red. Not deep blue, not green. It doesn't work the way you wish it did. It just doesn't. Are you a member of a party?
aug 31, 2025, 9:19 pm • 1 0 • view
if you vote for transphobes in the general you know what you get? transphobia.
aug 31, 2025, 9:23 pm • 45 0 • view
I don't know what 'deep blue' is supposed to represent, but your whole argument seems to be based on the premise that I care what colour / party the victor is, as opposed to whether they have policies I agree with or not.
aug 31, 2025, 9:26 pm • 25 0 • view
But I'm confused that you now seem in *favour* of "vote blue no matter who" when before you said you were against purity tests?
aug 31, 2025, 9:27 pm • 21 0 • view
The left having purity tests means that they refuse to work with or vote for people not completely aligned with themselves. They mean "hold your nose and vote for this person cause the stinking dumpster fire of the right is so much worse". It's acknowledging the problem of less than desirables.
aug 31, 2025, 9:30 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 31, 2025, 9:33 pm • 19 0 • view
Right - and your purity test is that you'll refuse to work with or vote for anyone who's not the Democratic Party's candidate; you'll never hold your nose and vote for someone else if it's pragmatic to do so. It's exactly the same principle.
aug 31, 2025, 9:32 pm • 15 0 • view
Like, if front runners in a certain race were, say, a communist and a fascist Democrat, I would vote for the communist *even if they had no chance of winning*, and you would vote for the Dem *even if they had no chance*. Because my purity test is 'no fascists' and yours is 'always the Dem'.
aug 31, 2025, 9:34 pm • 17 0 • view
Some people would say "in general I tend to agree with Dems so I tend to vote for them, but of course I would never vote for a Dem who was a fascist". But people who say VBNMW have decided that the purity test of "are they a Dem?" is more important than anything else.
aug 31, 2025, 9:36 pm • 7 0 • view
And like, this isn't a criticism of the principle of having purity tests - I have purity tests too, so I and the VBNMW advocate have the same approach to politics really. Of course, I think that anti-fascism is way more important than party loyalty so we disagree on the details, but that's all.
aug 31, 2025, 9:38 pm • 8 0 • view
No, it totally is not, it's weird who you think you are arguing with. It's not me. I look at polling and I try to navigate to the best possible option. I am a member of a party and I try to influence it from within. This is how you change things. Not spit the dummy and toss the vote. You agree?
aug 31, 2025, 9:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh sorry, I misunderstood - I thought you were an advocate of the 'Vote Blue no Matter Who' policy but I must have misunderstood.
aug 31, 2025, 9:39 pm • 9 0 • view
Meanwhile the fascists push the polls and you get endlessly dragged rightwards
aug 31, 2025, 9:40 pm • 9 0 • view
Is that why the dems went right, tried appealing to trumps base, supported genocided, alienated the left, and lost anyway? Tell us oh wise one, do you have them exactly where you want them for your master plan?
aug 31, 2025, 9:47 pm • 7 0 • view
Muslim and Arab Americans had voted overwhelmingly and consistently for Dems for the past 20 years. They inside and outside the Democratic party they lobbied for Dems not to genocide Arabs and Muslims. The Dems sole response was to send Bill Clinton to Michigan to tell them off.
aug 31, 2025, 9:43 pm • 14 0 • view
Yes it is, and no amount of “nuh uh” will change that. I’m sorry reality is too hard for your fash ass
aug 31, 2025, 9:58 pm • 2 0 • view
And how’s that been working out these last 20 years or so?
aug 31, 2025, 9:55 pm • 6 0 • view
This is a Brit. Disregard him, he's with Starmer's Labour.
sep 1, 2025, 6:46 pm • 0 0 • view
How flexible should one be on human rights? I think not at all, is that wrong?
aug 31, 2025, 9:39 pm • 6 0 • view
No it means we have actual convictions like "genocide is bad" and "human rights are essential" and not having any means your party gets infiltrated by sinemas and manchins while you fund baby murder and eat shit in elections
aug 31, 2025, 9:32 pm • 8 0 • view
aug 31, 2025, 9:41 pm • 7 0 • view
With Trump you get genocide *and* racism. If you are indifferent to all the ADDITIONAL suffering that having Trump as president then you are scum. I'm not pro-genocide, I am ANTI ANTI ANTI ANTI ANTI ICE.
aug 31, 2025, 9:49 pm • 0 0 • view
“Genocide *and* racism” Harris and the Dems literally ran on trying to out racism Trump and insist it was okay for THEM to support genocide. Seriously, none of your bullshit has any merit to it whatsoever due to your burning need to
aug 31, 2025, 10:00 pm • 4 1 • view
defend Blue Fascism at all costs having disconnected you entirely from reality.
aug 31, 2025, 10:00 pm • 2 1 • view
it's not us choosing to abandon voters.
aug 31, 2025, 9:48 pm • 7 0 • view
If you vote for someone who will hurt me in the primary, I will vote for someone who will hurt you in the general. Take that into your calculations and fix your heart.
aug 31, 2025, 9:27 pm • 13 0 • view
if the opposition party wins running on fascist policy then you didn't win. you just became a fascist.
aug 31, 2025, 9:47 pm • 19 1 • view
aug 31, 2025, 11:10 pm • 20 0 • view
It’s called having minimal fucking standards. You lot unironically would support 99% Hitler and I’ve seen people say so in as many words.
aug 31, 2025, 9:42 pm • 39 0 • view
Coalitions can’t be formed by holding a group hostage and demanding they vote with you. A coalition is an agreed upon alliance by groups who have differences but can put them aside for mutual gain. Demanding that we accept genocide falls out of those bounds, we won’t do it, so no coalition
sep 1, 2025, 2:06 pm • 7 1 • view
For some reason it’s always the leftists who are to blame for encroaching fascism because we don’t VBNMW but it’s never the fault of Democrats for continually propping up the worst, most unelectable candidates whose platforms are fascism with rainbows
sep 1, 2025, 2:18 pm • 6 1 • view
This shit is why the liberal complaint that we’re purity testing rings so fucking hollow, because liberals have repeatedly shown they have no standards whatsoever. It’s at the point where demanding ANYTHING of a candidate is seen as purity testing, like we’re medieval vassals swearing fealty
sep 1, 2025, 2:22 pm • 6 2 • view
Actually it’s worse, medieval lords needed to actually deliver material benefits to their vassals in order to get their support. Neoliberals promise nothing will significantly change because we aren’t their constituents, big money donors are
sep 1, 2025, 2:24 pm • 6 2 • view
You said “trying to strive for realistically best outcomes for those people we all care about” but by accepting that people’s rights are expendable, you are very clearly showing that you do not care about all those people, you care about yourself and you want us to jump in front of a bullet for you
sep 1, 2025, 2:36 pm • 4 1 • view
Again, that’s not how coalitions work. What you’re missing is that leftists are already a coalition of people with different experiences and passion causes and we know that solidarity is how we all win together. You can’t come in and say if you want MY support you have to cut off these people
sep 1, 2025, 2:41 pm • 4 1 • view
You repeatedly show us you’re not interested in solidarity or coalition building, you want to throw your weight around and then blame us for being unreasonable when we see right through your bullshit
sep 1, 2025, 2:42 pm • 3 2 • view
Well said 👏
sep 1, 2025, 3:37 pm • 1 0 • view
What you don't understand: The most realistic way to win is NOT abandoning everyone who doesn't poll well. You're advocating for the strategy that lost in 2016 and 2024.
sep 1, 2025, 12:09 am • 7 0 • view
Way to support the OP's point, man. You're the guy he's talking about.
sep 1, 2025, 6:36 pm • 2 0 • view
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary fucking proof! If you cannot demonstrate to me, with statistical rigor, why the systematic maiming of transgender children is “good for the coalition,” then I am going to be really fucking mad at you for suggesting we do that! Lives are at stake!
sep 1, 2025, 12:20 am • 13 0 • view
I think the hypothetical votes you think this will gain are imaginary. My vote, however, is quite real As is my pain and fury at having to listen to sadistic ghouls like you casually suggest that killing and maiming transgender children and young adults is in any way “worth it”
sep 1, 2025, 12:24 am • 10 0 • view
stop calling “I refuse to allow the children in my community to come to harm” a “purity test” It’s demeaning, dehumanizing, disrespectful, and dismissive Either talk about this with the understanding that if we do it your way tens of thousands of trans children will be killed or maimed, or shut up
sep 1, 2025, 12:27 am • 9 0 • view
Oh, this strategy, as noted in 1937? I think we should learn from history instead. bsky.app/profile/will...
aug 31, 2025, 11:42 pm • 6 0 • view
How well has tacking right actually worked for getting democrats into power? Did they win the 2024 election by getting that coveted Dick Cheney endorsement?
aug 31, 2025, 10:37 pm • 6 0 • view
Nothing is "for us", WITHOUT US.
aug 31, 2025, 11:38 pm • 14 0 • view
So.... trans people are NOT "people we all care about"?
aug 31, 2025, 9:38 pm • 46 0 • view
If "don't agree with MAGA dipshits about human rights" is unrealistic, then we should probably just give up having a democracy at all.
sep 1, 2025, 12:10 am • 31 2 • view
You're right. Maybe we can't win. But without us you can't either, so we can sure as hell make sure everyone loses. Either stop supporting a transphobe or enjoy another 4 years of suffering alongside the people you wanted to abandon. Your choice.
sep 1, 2025, 2:31 pm • 4 0 • view
you also need a coalition, and this is the exact opposite of what you should do to get it
aug 31, 2025, 11:13 pm • 8 0 • view
What rights are you willing to sacrifice to protect democracy?
sep 1, 2025, 1:52 am • 4 0 • view
Blud didn't read what SPD did leading to 1939. Go read a history book!
sep 1, 2025, 5:34 am • 0 0 • view
Man, shitlibs are such detestable people!
sep 1, 2025, 5:33 am • 0 0 • view
You're all so fucking tiresome. You use the same infantilizing language like "kick and scream" to flatter your ego that you're the sane, rational ones. All you do is make it clear where your allegiances lie when push comes to shove. You will always, ALWAYS, side with the fascists.
sep 1, 2025, 1:13 am • 10 0 • view
They side with corporate interests and oligarchs. They're the ones writing the massive bribes... er... campaign contributions that pay for top dollar political consultants who just happen to also be party insiders.
sep 1, 2025, 2:09 am • 5 0 • view
Sacrificing vulnerable minorities is a real shit way to "coalition build." Go fuck yourself.
aug 31, 2025, 10:54 pm • 8 0 • view
Damn dude maybe don’t post this next time
sep 1, 2025, 2:37 am • 3 0 • view
I'm glad he did. This thread is fucking fantastic. I wish Dems would read this stuff instead of just going by polling numbers that clearly don't work.
sep 1, 2025, 3:47 pm • 2 0 • view
lo, yeah, maybe, but IMO the despair and "they are all the same" is voter suppression so I feel obliged to try to stop it
sep 1, 2025, 11:54 am • 0 0 • view
Funny how these coalitions can only exist if it's the pro-corporate establishment Dems who run for office and the progressives have to just shut up and vote for them. When the fuck y'all gonna endorse Mamdani or Fateh? When y'all forming a coalition around them? 🙄🤡
sep 1, 2025, 1:57 am • 5 0 • view
Nah its you looking out for your own self interests especially when the compromise is on genocide of poc in another country
aug 31, 2025, 10:12 pm • 5 0 • view
without considering our needs you will never have our coalition. Without our cooperation you too lack power, no matter how much you believe you are entitled to it.
aug 31, 2025, 10:16 pm • 9 0 • view
The sense of entitlement is consistent and I just realized THAT is what irked me about Clinton and Harris.
sep 1, 2025, 3:44 pm • 2 0 • view
I don't believe I am entitled to it, I jumped in this thread only to defend myself from being called a piece of shit for advocating for Harris > Trump
sep 1, 2025, 3:47 pm • 0 0 • view
do you believe that trans rights and Palestine are "purity tests"?
sep 1, 2025, 4:28 pm • 2 0 • view
You are literally posting about all the people you should be allowed to murder. You don't get to demand your victims coalition with you.
sep 1, 2025, 12:06 am • 5 0 • view
The "purity test" argument, translated into English is, "I'm super pissed that other people have principles I will never possess" glad we had this chat
aug 31, 2025, 10:21 pm • 53 5 • view
It’s so fucking tedious truly and it’s never about something nuisanced or debatable but always things like 「 should certain groups of people get to exist ? 」
aug 31, 2025, 10:40 pm • 10 0 • view
Glad you’re back.
aug 31, 2025, 10:41 pm • 11 0 • view
Me too and thanks
aug 31, 2025, 11:12 pm • 8 0 • view
❤️
aug 31, 2025, 11:15 pm • 3 0 • view
Enjoy losing again, dipshit
aug 31, 2025, 10:21 pm • 15 0 • view
Good bit, Skrain
aug 31, 2025, 9:53 pm • 5 0 • view
Lose the Star Trek pfp. You clearly did not internalize its themes so now you have to be gatekept.
aug 31, 2025, 10:06 pm • 8 0 • view
I’m sorry you can’t handle lying won’t rewrite reality, just like every other fash cultist
aug 31, 2025, 9:55 pm • 8 0 • view
How's that worked out for them? Like the Realpolitik argument for the Democratic party doesn't actually check out, because it's a proven fuckin loser of a strategy. The truth is they're ideological, not practical.
sep 1, 2025, 12:17 am • 4 0 • view
suck it from the back, neville chamberlain
aug 31, 2025, 8:59 pm • 130 0 • view
Care to elaborate? You don't like that account?
aug 31, 2025, 10:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Why was I blocked by her for posting a screenshot of one of her own posts - does she know how bad the join up w/ the Cheneys stuff looks now?
aug 31, 2025, 11:57 pm • 29 0 • view
if you're not american why are you reposting the absolute worst of our liberals?
sep 1, 2025, 1:26 am • 21 0 • view
Lmao okay buddy pay me one of you $8k paychecks and I’ll explain the irony
aug 31, 2025, 11:42 pm • 14 0 • view
You are a parody account I see
aug 31, 2025, 9:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Nah, I think he’s just an 8th grade boy. No mature adult believes you can succeed without a coalition. These types are typically privileged, well-educated white males who, due to lack of success in adulting, turn to stompy-footed intransigence about “liberals” and a bipartisan system.
sep 1, 2025, 1:18 pm • 2 0 • view
Or it’s Charlie Kirk.
sep 1, 2025, 1:48 pm • 0 0 • view
sorry i can't hear you over the din of your collaboration
aug 31, 2025, 9:01 pm • 69 0 • view
Righty-o, let's be having it. Which country you in, what's your coalition for power to ACTUALLY affect change? Show me the numbers and the plan for achieving what you want. Stop grandstanding, start trying to achieve.
aug 31, 2025, 9:03 pm • 0 0 • view
my plan is to ignore complete failures like yourself
aug 31, 2025, 10:17 pm • 9 0 • view
the quisling moves his lips yet nothing intelligible emerges
aug 31, 2025, 9:05 pm • 56 0 • view
Sigh, good intentions, I get ya but just... I dunno, read a newspaper or something
aug 31, 2025, 9:06 pm • 0 0 • view
the wind whispers "vichy....vichy" as it carries your words away
aug 31, 2025, 9:07 pm • 52 0 • view
Get bent, fascist
aug 31, 2025, 11:12 pm • 6 0 • view
show me the numbers you're using, cause so far everything you've said is just made up bullshit. abandoning large swaths of the voter base to appeal to fascists doesn't win.
aug 31, 2025, 9:46 pm • 19 0 • view
it worked out so well when hilldawg was anointed - she polled fabulously against trump and none of these eggheads seem to notice that the gop doesn’t build coalitions maybe energizing the base is a good strategy?
sep 1, 2025, 12:22 am • 3 0 • view
The GOP has a solid coalition spanning moderates to extremists. They’ve even garnered black and Hispanic voters.
sep 1, 2025, 1:22 pm • 1 0 • view
not a single person voting for trump is a moderate.
sep 1, 2025, 4:03 pm • 5 0 • view
Centrist democrats have lost 2/3 recent presidential races, and profoundly failed with Biden the one time they did win. Even by your own standards you need to reassess what the realistic best outcomes actually are.
aug 31, 2025, 9:49 pm • 22 0 • view
Okay, I am glad you are making an actual argument, or very close to one. I take it you think that by staking out a more left-leaning policy position you would get another bloc of voters that would counterbalance the swing voters who decide the elections. What is that bloc you are talking about?
aug 31, 2025, 9:52 pm • 2 0 • view
You’re jumping forward to overlook having to admit that your preferred strategy has a disastrous track record. There’s more than one alternative that rational people can discuss, but wanting to keep doing the same thing while claiming to expect different results is either delusional or dishonest.
aug 31, 2025, 9:58 pm • 21 0 • view
But yes, a more left wing candidates would pick up more votes, from three buckets. First, the disaffected lefties who y'all always blame. Second, working class nonvoters (a massive bloc for whom straightforward material appeals seem the most viable). Third, your vaunted “swing voters”.
aug 31, 2025, 10:00 pm • 18 0 • view
Swing voters have idiosyncratic beliefs, they’re rarely centrists, and candidates who try to appeal to a mythic center come off as less genuine than candidate who have strong and consistent principles. Plus, left leaning candidates would pull the conventional wisdom left, the opposite of Dems…
aug 31, 2025, 10:02 pm • 15 1 • view
Agreeing with Trump on underlying issue while proposing a more moderate “solution” (a la Palestine, or the border…). Plus, if elections are coin tossed anyways, running lefties means when Dems do win at least something might get accomplished to change the underlying balance of power.
aug 31, 2025, 10:04 pm • 13 0 • view
If they ever win. I just think there are a fuck load of people waaay out to the right there, closed minded older generation who ACTUALLY vote. I do think we should have more left wing candidates tho, I 100% agree on trying to primary people and get more left leaning people as candidates.
aug 31, 2025, 10:07 pm • 0 0 • view
I honestly think that's the media creating straw men of who the voters are, as if we aren't 360 million people across a vast country with different cultures. I think you're just hearing from the political bubble and the dem establishment wants to maintain the status quo to control the masses.
sep 1, 2025, 3:31 pm • 1 0 • view
Congrats then, you’re halfway there. If you want to compromise in the privacy of a general election voting booth by all means, that’s rational enough. But if you want something you should argue for it! Build the case! Don’t preemptively concede and argue against your own preferred outcomes!
aug 31, 2025, 10:12 pm • 7 0 • view
Older people are dying off, millennials will vote if they’re appealed to. Boomers’ parents were more left wing on most things than they were, generational lean is a function of the environment, so build a left wing chorus instead of trying to defuse it.
aug 31, 2025, 10:14 pm • 9 1 • view
Biden easily beat trump in 2020 with a progressive platform, he got more votes than any candidate had in the past, and yes, this was after Trump was so horrible and we were still in covid times, but, simply looking at the platforms that lost to trump and the one that won, gives some insight.
![candidate in 2016.112] His 2020 campaign positions included codifying Roe v. Wade into statute, creating a public option for health insurance, decriminalizing recreational cannabis, passing the Equality Act, providing tuition-free community college, and passing a $1.7 trillion climate plan embracing the framework of the Green New Deal. Biden supported regulation of fracking as opposed to a complete ban on the practice.](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:azealvj65povd3hw673krvdi/bafkreibkj5ajhly2bx33qzlp4q42cre5sl5u6wnch2t2hhwe3q36wimvki@jpeg)
sep 1, 2025, 1:49 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm so glad Biden got those things done and kept his promises like Obama. That's what inspired me to believe in Harris.
sep 1, 2025, 3:35 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm not immune to that argument, I just think that when it comes to political strategy, I'm probably a hella less informed than the people whose full time job is assessing how to swing those votes. You might be right but it's a bit of a gamble/shot in the dark and I just disagree that it's worth it.
aug 31, 2025, 10:05 pm • 0 0 • view
If you aspire to being a citizen of a democracy you’re going to need to develop more faith in your own political agency. The profession also have very obvious confounding personal incentives. And we’ve tried the alternative! Many times! It’s what brought us here!
aug 31, 2025, 10:10 pm • 5 0 • view
As noted earlier, I love the "you are a nazi" posts because I have a cartoon baddy picture. They are EXACTLY making the point about the inability to have reasonable discussion on the points and the merits.
sep 1, 2025, 3:00 pm • 0 0 • view
You love being called a Nazi. Wow. That’s totally normal and not a thing a Nazi would say.
sep 1, 2025, 3:17 pm • 2 0 • view
Such good faith discussion from yourself 👍
sep 1, 2025, 3:34 pm • 0 0 • view
The "reasonable discussion on the points and the merits" you have in mind: bsky.app/profile/diam...
sep 1, 2025, 5:30 pm • 1 0 • view
You don’t have power cuz you refuse to follow the #science of taking it. And why? Cuz you’re too lazy to save your own kids. That’s why you’re muted, cuz you disgust me. www.ericachenoweth.com/research/wcrw
aug 31, 2025, 10:41 pm • 5 0 • view
The democrats need us for their coalition though, they can’t win without us, so they have to offer up someone we will vote for, or else they lose again. Simple as.
sep 1, 2025, 1:42 pm • 5 0 • view
Appropriate pfp
aug 31, 2025, 9:09 pm • 58 0 • view
That is my favourite, when people are like "you are literally Hitler" because I'm a pragmatic leftie, who enjoys a baddie in a space opera.
aug 31, 2025, 9:14 pm • 0 0 • view
"leftie" citations needed
aug 31, 2025, 9:23 pm • 75 0 • view
There legit needs to be a litmus / purity test for using that label
aug 31, 2025, 10:30 pm • 20 0 • view
there is now
sep 1, 2025, 1:31 am • 7 0 • view
I appreciated the Dale reference
sep 1, 2025, 3:14 pm • 1 0 • view
Not practically. They may obviously not be leftists but transphobes and ableists and so on can still claim to be leftists
sep 1, 2025, 2:33 am • 8 0 • view
if your politics leaves anyone behind i don't recognize you as being on the left. that's not socialism.
sep 1, 2025, 2:38 am • 23 3 • view
Absolutely None of us are free until all of us are free
sep 1, 2025, 2:40 am • 10 0 • view
Never understood why people who hate leftists and progressives and everything we stand for want so badly to label themselves leftist or progressive. Brianna Wu comes to mind.
sep 1, 2025, 4:19 pm • 5 0 • view
It’s quite annoying Only speculating but I think it’s that they know we’re right and want to get the cred for that but they also want to have their Porsche collection and not to have their taxes go up or otherwise be even mildly personally inconvenienced or even just to have others lifted up
sep 1, 2025, 4:28 pm • 2 0 • view
Death does not leave us there, 💔hunger is killing us, and the world’s betrayal has become normal. No one feels for us except a few. 😔Please help me. 💔
sep 1, 2025, 5:14 pm • 1 0 • view
I know :/ Shared your link fwiw
sep 1, 2025, 5:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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sep 1, 2025, 4:43 pm • 0 0 • view
In Wu's case she's an opportunist. Her goal in life is to be some kind of thought leader. And, while she is very rightwing, she thought she had a better chance grifting to the left. She also doesn't realize just how rightwing she is. Because she is, frankly, not the sharpest....
sep 1, 2025, 5:25 pm • 5 0 • view
Someone on Twitter found an interview with her when she was running for office, where she said she’s not a progressive and never was one. But suddenly she claimed to be a former progressive? I think most of them do it because they want to say “no I’m a good progressive!”
sep 1, 2025, 5:31 pm • 4 0 • view
...Like I'm sure everyone calling the crap she said about finding the trans gene so we could get rid of it eugenics was a surprise to her. I don't think she knew that was a eugenicist opinion beforehand.
sep 1, 2025, 5:25 pm • 3 0 • view
I don’t think she does now either because she has a great combo of having terrible beliefs but being ridiculously assured that she is correct and everyone else is wrong
sep 1, 2025, 5:27 pm • 2 0 • view
no longer accepting “leftist” as a valid ideological identity, at least pick a tendency or be considered a temporarily embarrassed liberal and nothing more
aug 31, 2025, 9:54 pm • 10 0 • view
I'm pro trans-rights, anti-genocide, pro Ukraine, environmentalist, socialist. I live in a country that has a fuck load more of these things than USA and it's partly down to how I vote.
aug 31, 2025, 9:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Wait, you don't even live here? Oh my god fuck oooooooooooff
aug 31, 2025, 10:32 pm • 7 0 • view
this thread also never mentioned country until I did so maybe you can account for the possibility it's not always all about yoo ess eh
aug 31, 2025, 10:52 pm • 0 0 • view
We all live here when it's Trump in
aug 31, 2025, 10:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Dumb grammatically incorrect platitude American hegemony doesn't end whenever a democrat is in office
aug 31, 2025, 11:50 pm • 4 0 • view
which country is that? because if you say the UK cares more about trans rights than the US lol. lmao.
sep 1, 2025, 1:25 am • 5 0 • view
okay let's try that. if a democratic nominee says that he's willing to sell out ukraine should ukrainian-americans be harassed to vote him?
aug 31, 2025, 11:43 pm • 13 0 • view
if you're "pro trans rights" then why are you advocating for avenues where trans people are thrown under the bus?
sep 1, 2025, 4:09 am • 2 0 • view
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck outta hereeeeeee
aug 31, 2025, 11:56 pm • 4 0 • view
Writing what you have already in this post and then proclaiming you're "pro trans rights" is WILD. And I imagine you love to point out how hypocritical Republicans are.
aug 31, 2025, 10:15 pm • 7 0 • view
Then shut the fuck up about America because Gavin Newsom and big tent Democrats represent precisely zero of your avowed beliefs. Mind your own fucking grass.
aug 31, 2025, 11:52 pm • 11 0 • view
liberal then
aug 31, 2025, 10:01 pm • 7 0 • view
(on a good day)
aug 31, 2025, 10:01 pm • 5 0 • view
Are you bots?! So weird.
aug 31, 2025, 10:02 pm • 0 0 • view
You’ve been sephiroth posting about a country you don’t even live in and want to know if WE’RE the bots? Get the fuck out of here
sep 1, 2025, 12:07 am • 1 0 • view
I’m just one person, actually.
aug 31, 2025, 10:06 pm • 7 0 • view
then stick to your own country's politics nerd, you know fuck all about ours
aug 31, 2025, 11:50 pm • 27 0 • view
get their ass
aug 31, 2025, 11:52 pm • 16 0 • view
the next time I show up in someone's mentions lecturing them on how their country should do politics will be the first, it's a remarkably easy trap to avoid
sep 1, 2025, 12:01 am • 12 0 • view
Also given how the spelling of “favour” narrows it down? I very much fucking doubt it’s quite the “a fuck load more of those things” as we’re being told.
sep 1, 2025, 12:16 am • 2 0 • view
look at my profile... it's so funny to me that you would all attack someone like me. You reject someone who suggests building a coalition for power. Bloop. There you have it.
aug 31, 2025, 9:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Hmmm space Hitler and nothing else. What's he trying to convey 🤔
aug 31, 2025, 9:38 pm • 8 0 • view
why are we asked to make sacrifices for this coalition while no one else is if a democrat were overtly racist would you demand black democrats promise to vote for him?
aug 31, 2025, 9:36 pm • 30 0 • view
It sucks that the coalition must be broad, I'm for proportional representation, but if you are in a FPTP system then the group you have to be part of is going to include a lot of people you don't like, unless you know how to bring the culture closer. You do them a favour by staying away.
aug 31, 2025, 10:29 pm • 0 0 • view
answer the question, who else's rights are you willing to give up for a coalition? which of your rights are expendable?
aug 31, 2025, 11:42 pm • 13 0 • view
British English detected
sep 1, 2025, 12:18 am • 1 0 • view
?
sep 1, 2025, 1:42 am • 2 0 • view
Is it broad, though? You're choosing to eject one set of people in favor of another, and the set you're choosing to favor already have a party.
sep 1, 2025, 1:33 am • 11 0 • view
You do what Zohran Mamdani is doing. You do what Graham platner is doing. You do popular left wing policies about making people's lives better and fighting against the oligarchy. That's how you win people over. You don't do that by throwing trans people under the bus. That's unacceptable.
aug 31, 2025, 11:52 pm • 7 1 • view
No, you suck
aug 31, 2025, 11:14 pm • 5 0 • view
How's that working out for Labour? From my perspective on the other side of the pond it seems like that strategy is just a quick way to turn your party into the thing you hate and normalize the right wing more throughout society.
sep 1, 2025, 1:13 am • 7 0 • view
Leftists dont vote for genocide or withholding healthcare. Hope this helps.
aug 31, 2025, 9:31 pm • 14 0 • view
How did coalition building go in 2024? Did campaigning with Liz Cheney and touting Dick's support while endorsing genocide build a winning coalition?
aug 31, 2025, 9:32 pm • 13 0 • view
such a coalition must reject transphobia and genocide in order to be meaningfully distinguishable from the enemy
aug 31, 2025, 9:28 pm • 31 0 • view
You’re not pragmatic, just more conservative than you like to pretend
aug 31, 2025, 9:26 pm • 31 0 • view
Lmao.
aug 31, 2025, 11:43 pm • 7 0 • view
I don't see any indication that you're pragmatic or a lefty. Repeating a strategy that has consistently failed for over 40 years isn't pragmatic, and you have a very rightwing perspective on the political spectrum.
sep 1, 2025, 3:49 am • 5 0 • view
aug 31, 2025, 9:39 pm • 16 0 • view
only liberals call themselves “leftie” you fucking loser
sep 1, 2025, 2:40 am • 5 0 • view
Political southpaw?
sep 1, 2025, 3:16 pm • 1 0 • view
Describe the strategy for winning the election after you've sided with MAGA against the queer community, and criminalized gender nonconformity such that you lose a significant chunk of the 7% of the population who are queer (and who vote Democrat) to prison and death.
sep 1, 2025, 12:13 am • 11 0 • view
Kamala ran the ultimate centrist campaign last year and ate shit. It doesn't work. It's not pragmatic.
sep 1, 2025, 1:17 am • 6 0 • view
@miq.moe color
sep 1, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 4:02 pm • 4 1 • view
“I’m pragmatic in that I am willing to sacrifice others”
aug 31, 2025, 11:52 pm • 12 0 • view
And they still lose. It's not even pragmatic. It's ideological.
sep 1, 2025, 12:20 am • 11 0 • view
Please, explain what is "pragmatic" about genocide?
aug 31, 2025, 10:22 pm • 35 0 • view
You can think that the far right and the center are the same but they are not and to make them morally equivalent is to open the door to a load of additional suffering in the world
aug 31, 2025, 10:24 pm • 0 0 • view
What center are you talking about? There's only far-right and moderate-right.
sep 1, 2025, 3:47 am • 4 0 • view
What does that have to do with the question that was asked? They are not morally the same. They are both morally okay with committing a genocide, though. Which is unacceptable regardless of their differences.
aug 31, 2025, 11:47 pm • 13 0 • view
just answer the question What is pragmatic about genocide It shouldn't be hard to answer
aug 31, 2025, 11:08 pm • 26 0 • view
…calculating…
aug 31, 2025, 11:54 pm • 15 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 4:09 am • 11 0 • view
Lol
sep 1, 2025, 4:22 am • 10 0 • view
damn they got REAL quiet
sep 1, 2025, 3:49 pm • 9 0 • view
Let’s pretend you’re making a good or relevant point. Surely you have some sources to back up your opinions?
aug 31, 2025, 11:08 pm • 6 0 • view
Fascism is colonialism turned inward. You do not fight fascism by accepting genocide.
aug 31, 2025, 11:59 pm • 22 0 • view
Gul Dukat would absolutely describe his actions during the occupation in this way.
aug 31, 2025, 9:32 pm • 20 0 • view
maybe don't describe enabling genocide as "pragmatic" and ppl won't call you hitler, have you ever thought of that?
aug 31, 2025, 11:51 pm • 8 0 • view
My favorite is when people twist "your pfp of a bad guy is appropriate for the shitty opinion you're spouting" into "you're bad because your pfp is a bad guy".
aug 31, 2025, 9:22 pm • 25 0 • view
“Pragmatic” gonna stop you there, I don’t need to see the rest of whatever horseshit you’ve talked yourself into believing validates abandoning solidarity
aug 31, 2025, 9:39 pm • 17 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 6:35 pm • 1 0 • view
Sucks to suck, Hitler
aug 31, 2025, 11:15 pm • 5 0 • view
You know what, you're right. This is so unfair. We should be building statues of you!
aug 31, 2025, 9:31 pm • 12 0 • view
You're a Republican.
sep 1, 2025, 1:26 am • 10 0 • view
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sep 1, 2025, 2:41 am • 0 0 • view
With power we didn’t get shit. Maybe that “power” you think we get isn’t shit
sep 1, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
yes really it's cool you found an excuse for your bigotry but don't expect us to buy it 👍
sep 1, 2025, 12:13 am • 23 0 • view
If you need a coalition for power it's probably a mistake to alienate a core part of that coalition by throwing trans people under the bus and doing fuck all about genocide.
sep 1, 2025, 2:05 pm • 5 0 • view
If compromise and moderation was going to lead to power, Kamala would have won, replacing Hillary after her two terms. Now go flap your arms and fuck the sun
sep 1, 2025, 1:55 am • 3 0 • view
A coalition with who?
sep 1, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
Realistically best outcomes for you. Not for the trans people, or women's bodily autonomy, or economic and racial justice, or a political economy where exploitation is punished. And no, I don't need a coalition of liberals waiting to destroy progress so you can be seen being magnanimous.
sep 1, 2025, 2:27 am • 4 0 • view
youtu.be/q_Msueu4a8I?...
sep 1, 2025, 12:10 am • 1 0 • view
archive.org/details/ho-c...
aug 31, 2025, 11:49 pm • 2 0 • view
youtu.be/OMh0vlR5aHM?...
aug 31, 2025, 11:43 pm • 3 1 • view
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjt5...
aug 31, 2025, 10:30 pm • 4 1 • view
you aren't being realistic. you aren't playing 3d chess. you're being a fascist collaborator.
aug 31, 2025, 9:44 pm • 23 0 • view
It's complying in advance. Trump is great at making people do that. Unfortunately, Dems came to NEED him because the whole platform was "not trump"
sep 1, 2025, 3:51 pm • 2 0 • view
"We need a coalition for power. That means accepting compromises." "Ok, well here are our red lines if you want us to join this coalition..." "No, no, YOU make compromises, not us."
sep 1, 2025, 2:09 pm • 3 0 • view
My comment on this is only about the timing on your interventions. Do push for left leaning candidates in primaries. Don't suppress the vote by spitting the dummy at the general.
sep 1, 2025, 2:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh is there a general election happening now? Where?
sep 1, 2025, 3:04 pm • 3 0 • view
A lot of US folks here so let's take the primaries for the U.S. midterm elections will take place from early 2026 through with the general election scheduled for November 3, 2026. So if you are going to activate poilitcally now, are you ready to vote in the primaries?
sep 1, 2025, 3:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh so you're saying sorry, pig people, simply no time to build a coalition that takes your wants into consideration, democracy needs saving right now, compromise or you're to blame for fascism, as ever? Always Be Closing I guess.
sep 1, 2025, 4:10 pm • 0 0 • view
No I'm saying, "vote in the primaries" that's how you get what you want. Not trying to do "vote denial" in the general.
sep 1, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Who gets a vote in the primaries? Is it everyone?
sep 1, 2025, 4:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Realistically tho, the vast majority of Dems want to stop sending Israel weapons. Ridiculous that Dems won’t listen to their voters
aug 31, 2025, 11:59 pm • 8 0 • view
What the fuck does “realistically best outcomes” even mean? If your best outcome includes genocide and transphobia then you’ve lost the plot
sep 1, 2025, 6:54 pm • 4 0 • view
Its libspeak for "I don't care if my candidate is dogshit, their victory will let me go back to brunch"
sep 1, 2025, 8:46 pm • 2 0 • view
YOU DON’T LIVE IN AMERICA GO AWAY
aug 31, 2025, 11:55 pm • 1 0 • view
See also "expecting everyone to be perfect" for expecting someone to not kill you
sep 1, 2025, 1:37 am • 52 3 • view
My favorite quote post to drop bsky.app/profile/iant...
sep 1, 2025, 3:24 am • 16 0 • view
I kinda cooked on that one ngl
sep 1, 2025, 6:47 am • 15 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 3:01 pm • 4 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 3:05 pm • 5 0 • view
The alt text on yours is much better. I sure did love that Homsar Runner back in the day. Except Marshie. I hate that freakin marshmallow.
sep 1, 2025, 4:55 pm • 2 0 • view
Definitely
sep 1, 2025, 10:32 am • 5 0 • view
To be a pedantic asshole, it can be a useful phrase at times. In the context of human rights, though? Absolutely not. What a joke
sep 1, 2025, 12:26 am • 11 0 • view
Exactly! Something like “your priority testing a candidate can the because they don’t want protected bike lanes over just some white lines” is acceptable, not someone’s literal existence.
sep 1, 2025, 7:01 pm • 1 0 • view
I don't think I use the phrase much, but I think it describes the attitude of people who would prefer to remain pure in an abstract way that doesn't matter at all, rather than tangle with the infuriating incremental choices of real life. How should I describe those people?
sep 1, 2025, 1:17 am • 1 0 • view
This post makes no sense. How can someone who does "purity tests" have a desire to remain "pure" in an abstract way? To be pure, you must know specifically what contaminants make something unacceptably impure in order to remove them.
sep 1, 2025, 5:35 pm • 1 0 • view
Many people have a sense of "purity" that is basically abstract, not based on real interactions. I'm not saying they're always wrong, but some people feel contaminated by vibes or almost by magic (including me).
sep 1, 2025, 5:55 pm • 1 0 • view
Fictional.
sep 1, 2025, 2:34 pm • 3 0 • view
CoolStory... which basic human rights don't matter at all to you..?
sep 1, 2025, 3:32 am • 11 1 • view
None.
sep 1, 2025, 2:31 pm • 1 0 • view
I hear you that a lot of people gotta be edgy and too cool for everything but this debate needs to happen and we absolutely do need to have standards. You don't choose solidarity. You live it or you don't. Privilege shelters a lot of people from the absolute NECESSITY that it is for US.
sep 1, 2025, 4:02 pm • 1 0 • view
Then you would refuse to support a candidate that would claim such an action is necessary?
sep 1, 2025, 2:56 pm • 4 0 • view
"Don't hang out and agree with MAGA on human rights issues" is pretty fucking concrete. Nothing abstract there.
sep 1, 2025, 2:21 pm • 14 0 • view
That's not really what I'm asking, but that's a good principle of course.
sep 1, 2025, 2:28 pm • 1 0 • view
Ok. Well the people you described aren't actually real. All the folks accused of purity testing by centrists have specific concerns with specific candidates that materially impact their lives.
sep 1, 2025, 2:29 pm • 12 0 • view
I think they exist, in that I have met them. They think of acts like voting as a sort of magical exercise that creates a sort of imaginary emotional tether to the candidate. But, of course I can't tell someone that a candidate doesn't affect them when of course they do, ie I also agree with you.
sep 1, 2025, 2:35 pm • 1 0 • view
Liberals are the ones I've seen with parasocial relationships like that. I have no illusion regarding my connection to a politician. They're auditioning for a job and I'm appraising then.
sep 1, 2025, 2:40 pm • 11 0 • view
Sadly I think this delusion affects some people of almost all political persuasions
sep 1, 2025, 2:41 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm sure. I simply have far less occasion to encounter people who agree with me about politicians for such silly reasons than I do to encounter people who think we should be choosing politicians based on how palatable they are to open white supremacists.
sep 1, 2025, 2:42 pm • 9 0 • view
"majority"
sep 1, 2025, 2:38 pm • 2 0 • view
Who gets to decide what matters? If I'm adamant about something you don't care about, is it purity? If something is super important to you but not to me, should I dismiss it, or consider it to be of some importance, because it matters a lot to someone/you? Who gets to decide what matters?
sep 1, 2025, 3:03 pm • 5 0 • view
Great question. Having different priorities doesn't seem like a "purity test". I think, if it applies to anyone, it would require that they bring about a worse outcome for the satisfaction of thinking about a perfect one that can't happen. Ie it would be about feasibility, not specific priorities.
sep 1, 2025, 3:08 pm • 0 0 • view
You sure you're not confusing this whole thing with being pragmatic? PS! You do realise that i.e having to draw the line at genocide does not invoke any sense of satisfaction or resemble anything even remotely close to perfection?
sep 1, 2025, 3:22 pm • 4 0 • view
I think pragmatism and perfectionism are probably opposites. I agree it's not perfect. I do think people get dopamine out of adopting strong positions (not saying that makes any specific position incorrect)
sep 1, 2025, 3:27 pm • 1 0 • view
Again, solidarity is a solid line in the sand for marginalized people BY NECESSITY. There are no compromises in human rights. Fuck that lesser evil shit. You're not making me choose between killing those 2 kids or those 3 kids. Fuck that. This is very real to real people.
sep 1, 2025, 4:06 pm • 2 0 • view
Sure, but some outcomes kill 5 people. Some actions feel like they relieve us of responsibility, but we can't escape. We have to guess what combination of actions will turn out best. Inaction is a choice, and just as culpable.
sep 1, 2025, 4:13 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm not responsible for a situation that was created to force me to choose between who dies when nobody has to die. I refuse the gaslighting. My action is pointing this out now because I'm not the only one sick of this shit. Look how many sat out. Will they change or is this illusion of choice?
sep 1, 2025, 4:23 pm • 2 0 • view
If it's an illusion of choice, then what's the point? It feels like the whole thing is designed for us to FEEL free so we don't bring out the guillotines. And look around. People are getting more and more ok with guillotines. It's insane to keep doing the same shit expecting different results.
sep 1, 2025, 4:25 pm • 1 0 • view
But they probably have all this calculated. More people vote for the lesser of two evils than would like to admit it. I don't like admitting that I voted for a literal fucking cop. THIS SOON AFTER BLM. It's embarrassing. They ran a "black" woman COP and it was so out of touch. For the libs...
sep 1, 2025, 4:27 pm • 1 0 • view
Voting and guillotines are not mutually exclusive strategies (obviously at some point the latter would override the former but you can try both)
sep 1, 2025, 4:29 pm • 1 0 • view
You're morally responsible for how you respond to problems, even if you didn't create them. It sucks. If you think that sitting out will create a strong enough signal that a future, hypothetical election will turn out better (modulo the cost of time and uncertainty), that's a valid risk to take.
sep 1, 2025, 4:26 pm • 0 0 • view
If I think elections are pointless, then why would I signal to others that I think they matter by voting? I would look for meaningful forms of resistance or just move somewhere that isn't shit... probably far away from people. Disingenuous politicians aren't gonna cut it. Guillotines might.
sep 1, 2025, 4:34 pm • 1 0 • view
That's where people are different, some of us are NOT wandering about making quiet calculations; We believe in integrity, or "doing the right thing", even when it comes at a cost. We believe there are some things you Simply Do Not Do. Yeah? Voting in support of genocide is such a thing for me.
sep 1, 2025, 5:50 pm • 4 0 • view
I understand this, but with respect, not voting is also morally significant (whether right or wrong). There isn't a zone of isolation where certain choices are specially "not actions". To be clear, I'm not saying you have to make a specific choice, but you're part of a causal chain no matter what.
sep 1, 2025, 5:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Not picking up a piece of litter you walk by is morally significant. Not checking on the sick looking homeless guy you walk past is morally significant. I could go on and on but both of those have done more good than my votes, even for the "lesser evil". I'm gonna need more gain than fascism lite.
sep 1, 2025, 6:06 pm • 2 0 • view
I'm didn't 'not vote', I voted 3rd party. It was the only way to be heard, to get a message across, a way of saying: "I am not a non-voter, I am indeed an active voter, taking the time to vote, and voting for a left wing candidate" - which should tell them mine was a vote that they squandered.
sep 1, 2025, 6:06 pm • 2 0 • view
I have seen it used a lot lately and it's basically liberals flinging it at anyone who drew the line at genocide. I find it disgustingly inconsiderate; it shows a cult-like devotion to the DNC and/or Israel; It's highly misplaced and offensive; It suggests "the issue" is minor, which is outrageous.
sep 1, 2025, 3:36 pm • 4 0 • view
Yes, I agree that just saying "DNC platform or shut it" is counterproductive. We should be able to influence the platform.
sep 1, 2025, 3:38 pm • 1 0 • view
A few million tried, but were ignored, and are now being told they're responsible for the very thing they tried to stop, because that was evidently just a "purity test". It seems the platform isn't interested in being influenced, and that's probably why the Dems are seeing really poor numbers now.
sep 1, 2025, 3:48 pm • 3 0 • view