The very same article (and others) that Deform also want to rip up. Liebour are FASCISTS! It's a slippery slope to losing all our rights and privacy. Next thing will be a force, similar to ICE, to arrest people at will and for no reason. FUCK THEM ALL !!!

Labour = Temu Reform

TERFs such as Phillipson never see the consequences of their actions until it later affects them too. They are too consumed by hate to see their nose in front of their face.

Behold the face of Labour fascism. This the UK version of Project 2025 happening before our eyes, something the LGBTQ+ community has been shouting about for years. Still want to dismiss our warnings?

Another two gone full Nazi. Pieces of shit the lot of them.

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Paragraph 2 of Article 8 already gives states the ability to interfere with privacy and family life for a wide range of vague reasons. That's partially why the UK was able to get away with violating the privacy rights of all trans people from 1970 to 2004 (and most of them since then).

Article 8 can be ignored "in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others."

She's absolutely dead behind the eyes that one,very uncanny valley.

It's like Brexit. Farage wanted out, so Cameron tried to renegotiate with the EU and that wasn't enough so they had to have the referendum...exact same thing is going to happen here.

They’ve all lost their tiny little minds.

I reached this conclusion in april, and it sucks ass being potentially right....

This is exactly what's going on. Good luck to all /any minorities (of which I am one). Sickening.

To the advantage of no-one but the fascists licking their lips at what it would enable if they got into government.

I'm fairly sure Labour did not mention this belief anywhere in their manifesto. Funny how often that keeps happening.

They did not

To be fair, Phillipson would absolutely want changes to the ECHR. After all, she’s probably concerned her crusade against us might be derailed by an ECtHR ruling. Weakening human rights is a really bad sign everyone should be concerned about, but the British public are behaving like lemmings,

Sad facts: No politician (I can see) is making positive case for the ECHR. Salience matters and the press are rolling the pitch to leave. Labour (Glasman) is xenophobic, nationalist, transphobic and authoritarian. In any campaign to leave there will be two sides: /1

“Remember The Blitz? The nazis? The ECHR was created to stop another nazi government from rising in Europe.” It’s a very easy argument to make too.

I never said it was difficult. I am sure there are cases that have benefited the core of society as well as those on its margins. Sadly, even now, the best we see is folk saying “leaving would be bad”

I think it's difficult to make a positive argument that's not immediately obvious if you understand the negative potential? I mean, rights are rights and inalienable because they're the minimum basis on which good things can be built. Rights create safety, which enables freedom.

“Ruled from Brussels” “One last heave for true sovereignty” “British rights for British people” (Ts&Cs apply- check skin colour, gender, sexuality, disability… YMMV. Rights may go down as well as up) “Trust us. We will have the HRA”… now beat that with “Leaving bad. Rights are inalienable” :(

“Remember The Blitz? The nazis? The ECHR was created to stop another nazi government from rising in Europe.” "The nazis will lie to you to get you to oppose human rights because they want to create another nazi government." "The people who beat the nazis knew every nasty trick they'd played."

In case it’s unclear…. The undermining of just Art 8 and its misuse to out trans folk would be a disaster for me. There are no competent, platformed, good-faith actors in this debate that I can see :( Just a bunch of us getting more and more “concerned” :(

I agree. I'm just saying that the argument isn't really complex, and IMO the problem is rather that people try to make the argument too nuanced. This is straight up nazi shit.

I agree with what you say but nobody “public” will have the courage to be so direct. Nothing will be in good-faith

ardent leavers and reluctant remainers. We will run the campaign on an advisory basis (to undercut the rules). No clear vision of the future will be provided - “freedom”, “take back control” etc. Government will commit to implement the “will of the people”. HRA decouples /2

UKG uses SI + Henry VIII powers to oppress whomever it wants. The enablement of impunity for the wealthy will accelerate. / end

Spot on - we know how the campaign will go as they’ve already rehearsed it. “European judges meddling in Britain” etc. I wonder if they’ll be putting bogus claims on the side of busses again? The majority of those voting will have precisely no idea what they stand to lose.

Starmer cannot pretend he is ignorant about the topic. There's a book called "European Human Rights Law: The Human Rights Act 1998 and the European Convention on Human Rights." Author? Keir Starmer...

The answers are in the questions asked (or not asked)

Unassailable majority is a real cancer! In Fascist #Labour hands it's lethal.

Honours the rule of law. Aye their Israeli mirror betrays their hypocrisy. Total scunners all of them.

Is that the one Falkner, head of the EHRC, said trans people don't have a right to anyway?

Yup. They’re basically repeating the mistake Cameron made with the EU. I honestly think they’re dumb enough to offer a referendum on the ECHR in their manifesto.

I think so. It's the one the CPS have decided we don't have a right to, given their decision to charge us for SA unless we disclose our medical history.

Technically I think she said forcing trans people into gender neutral loos wasn't an article 8 issue, so, you know, on a night out, everyone heads to the loo and the solitary trans person left hunting for a unisex loo and answering awkward questions about why, is not a privacy issue

Yes - it’s been a key mechanism for getting trans rights across Europe including the UK

she talks in a really weird way, too? head and face totally stiff, but clattering really fast out of one side of her mouth, fast as a sewing machine. obviously the content is horrific but what else is new

Without article 8, the government can sell your data to private companies and spy on you more efficiently. It allows the monitoring of your bank accounts for tax evasion and it allows that monitoring of your emails and telephone calls for dissent, extremism and/or criminal activity.

The fact that she cannot say unequivocally that they would not leave ECHR says everything you need to know Only Hungary and other fascist states are going to be with the UK on this, which shows us just how bad the UK is And is it the Article, or is it the interpretation? How would they change it?

Maybe Labour is the one that needs reforming/fumigating/censored…