I think it's as simple as blaming Rupert Murdoch.

*translating to Canadian* It's pretty easy to understand you just have to imagine the UK and the US talk about each other the way Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers fans talk about each other

And Canucks/Jets fans are the Canadians in this metaphor?

can’t be Canucks fans, the UK and US don’t think about Canada at all and the only thing that unites Flames and Oilers fans is how much they hate Canucks fans

so yeah we’re the Jets

Fair

With the occasional Habs fan thrown in

about one in five, yeah

Is it bad if I live just kilometers away from Americans, and I think they are all hick morons waving around guns who see themselves as the centre of the universe?

If you're talking about Mainers, we purposely trained them wrong, as a joke

The UK would probably benefit from Scotland or Wales pulling the ripcord and forcing Labour to grow a pair as a result.

Canadians to the rest of the Anglosphere:

Also the ROC looking at Alberta or Quebec.

I sort of want us to keep our heads down

look do our provincial governments suck? yes. but i would take doug ford's shitty governance over having to deal with Sir Keir and Nigel Farage

Ford is a bastard but I think he also has an extremely basic sense of political self preservation that an alarming amount of our current political figures completely lack

He also seems to be genuinely proud to be Canadian, for all his faults

Also it feels like Canada politicians have a minimal amount of political consistency. Is their political view good? No. But better than someone with no value.

Yeah, one thing I'll give them (not PP) is that they are responsive to real demands of real people, it's just that various real people have stupid demands.

Doug Ford's Captain Canada stuff was astronomically more convincing than anything Starmer has said on anything while in office.

BC's on paper looks like it should suck less, and yet.

I hate Legault with all my heart, but 10x better than whatever is going in Europe/the UK

New Zealand isn’t doing so hot right now either.

Looking over at Australia and hoping things go well for southern canada

They’re not going… great. But grading on the anglosphere curve, we’re doing fine

Literally precisely the same

When the mineral money loses its mojo, they’re in the bad place

One of the reasons I didn't push for migrating to Canada was because I thought Canada was going to go insane too. And look at Canada now

Works out to basically, "Don't be either of these guys...."

Me normally: “Canada has a lot of issues: regional tensions and poor internal integration, a constitutional framework that increasingly needs an overhaul, economic underachievement-“ Me when Kier Starmer responds to race riots by saying he loves flags: “God bless the Laurentian consensus.”

The same thing that would have happened to Canada had Trump not decided to arrest that movement for some insanely stupid reason

the Netherlands has massively Anglicized (derogatory) over the past decades save me

Spain has probably the best surviving centre-left party in Western Europe.

idk I feel like (Anglo) Canadians are as prone to acceptable-for-progressives racism as anyone else

oh sure, but the upshot of that policy-wise isn't nearly as disgusting as Labour's policies. and French-Canadians are more racist than Anglophones IME.

Mhmm, yep, 💯, absolutely, can confirm… etc

the secret is that Canadians are smug about three countries rather than one (the US, the UK, and France)

genuinely, this kind of triangulation has saved us multiple times from dumb shit

Exhibit one: Iraq war

You see Laicite isn’t racist, it’s actually just about securing the existence of French Canadians and a future for Quebecois children.

Quebec has kinds of racism that would knock my socks off I bet

Canada has plenty of racism that would knock your socks off, it's not just Quebec. White anglo-Canadians tend to like to talk about racism in Quebec without acknowledging that it's just as bad but less openly discussed in the ROC. I wish we were all promoting multiculturalism not anti-immigrant shit

An "Oops! All Afrikaners" society in some important ways.

Afrikaners were in very meaningful ways oppressed by the British. That didn't make them want to end oppression, it just made them want to become exploiters in even more violent ways. French-Canadians do have legitimate historical grievances, but that can't be a blank cheque for modern reactionism.

Always felt the most instructive incident of the ‘95 referendum was not “Money and the Ethnic Vote” but Bernard Landry (allegedly) coming back to his hotel that night and remonstrating the Haitian cleaners with “we let you all in just so you could vote No?”

Straight line from there to Legault’s landslide re-election in 2022

Ah yes, the Quatorze Mots.

Also the way people in progressive circles talk about First Nations is a fucking mess. I’m old enough to remember when saying stuff like ‘indigenous people are just naturally more in tune with nature’ was recognized as an extremely racist thing to say, but it feels like we went back to the 90s

Seems to have come back the same way astrology did, through brainless Facebook & TikTok content

I do think it’s a huge catalyst behind the pretendian epidemic

I mean the way Legault currently does it, it’s purely racist. And the PQ is even worst. Laïcité is about disconnecting the State from religion, and I guess you can argue about bill 21.

But the recent talks about banning payers in public is just islamophobic and antisemitic bullshit and goes against everything Canada and Quebec stands for The only saving grace is the justice system holds our constitution very high. Tho the fact the gov can just bypass it is terrible

Like yeah they don’t feel emboldened to say outright they hate people of colours and of different cultures, but they’re clearly using ‘laicity’ to attack them anyway

I think you guys are inoculated by being neighbors with the US

canadian democracy saved by negative partisanship against donald trump

Trump did what Chretien couldn't: killed Québec separatism stone dead. (of course, now we have Alberta trying the same,schtick, but the Wexiteers are just so goddamn lame...)

I learned from the cradle you never vote for someone, you vote against everyone else

Exactly. And one day, somewhere will finally implement it:

In my old age I'm coming to the conclusion that this approach is Good, Actually, it maintains the proper relationship between the voter and their vote (as an expression of what option for governance/representation is most acceptable)

Also the Francophone vs Anglophone divide is nothing in comparison with the divide between MAGA and any halfway-decent person

No Labourite can look down on my Democratic ass tbh. I'd even make the argument the Democratic Party is miles ahead of the average centre-left European party.