It's entirely possible that electing a transphobic Dem will result in things being even worse for trans people than they already are under Republicans. Just look to the U.K. for an example of how that happened bsky.app/profile/park...
It's entirely possible that electing a transphobic Dem will result in things being even worse for trans people than they already are under Republicans. Just look to the U.K. for an example of how that happened bsky.app/profile/park...
This is such an absurd take and I can't take you seriously.
You follow matt yglesias, so no one cares.
I also follow many trans journalists. What’s your point?
you're not very intelligent or well-informed, and so your opinion is irrelevant (that's what following matt y means)
I follow a wide variety of people, therefore that means I’m uninformed. Good stuff.
Please. You don’t believe that. Google: “shit the GOP has done to trans folks with Trump in White House.” My kid is afraid to travel to certain states now.
Okay, are YOU yourself, trans? Don't tell trans people to gamble with their lives to make yours better. Period
Instead, we should let them gamble with our lives?
One of us is gambling with the stakes being life and actual death on the line, the other, comfort.
Dismissing everyone else's concerns as "comfort" is not going to win anyone over and only further alienate people.
understand that if your position is "it's good and right to sacrifice this marginalized group for the greater good of the party," you should be alienated
Okay, is trump signing EOs with the express purpose to kill you, specifically? Yes or no
This is a hypothetical about a Newsom presidency in 2029 where he signs EOs with the express purpose to kill you.
hm, i wonder how on earth we ever might identify how newsom would legislatively target trans people. if only he ever said, on the record while knowingly being recorded, what he thinks should be done
"People should not be allowed to transition at 25" Literally a paraphrased quote from Newsom a few months ago. Literally taking what trump is doing but WORSE! He's expanding upon what Trump is DOING
Oh wait, did it become illegal for you to have an accurate passport? Is the government trying to criminalize your medicine? Have any states banned you from public restrooms? Are you not allowed to play sports with your friends?
Is Newsom doing this right now?
He literally said that he agrees that trans people shouldn't be allowed to transition until 25, EXPANDING ON TRUMPS OWN BAN. HE IS LITERALLY AGREEING THAT WHAT TRUMP IS DOING IS RIGHT AND WANTS TO DO IT BUT WORSE!
If you actually watched that exchange, he didn't say that. Just said that he understood the concerns.
Ooooooh! He just "understood the concerns!" which are 100% right-wing bullshit. That doesn't help your case.
He's with the fascists on trans sports bans, and he goes further than them on banning transitioning. Furthermore, there's zero legitimate reason for those stances, he's just trying to appease fascists. Fascists can't be appeased, they'll always push for more, so Gavin will get pushed further.
Newsom has suggested that trans people shouldn't be allowed to transition until 26, has said he completely agrees with the right when it comes to sports, and that's absolutely just an excuse to erase all rights. I have eyes. I saw what happened in the UK when they elected transphobes.
From Erin Reed's own article, that isn't what he said about 26. He doesn't completely agree with the right on sports. Your position is that electing Newsom in 2028 would be worse than Vance (or whoever) because while Republicans are going to be awful, Newsom just "might" be awful? Insane take.
My position is that you're a fucking idiot to be annoying people with yOu wOuLdNt vOtE fOr gAvIn nEwSoM?!?!? when we're over threw years away from an election, we're opening concentration camps, power is being consilidated, families torn apart, rights trampled, lives ruined, and cities occupied.
I am not willing to risk what happened in the UK happening here. And that means drawing a line. Look, if Newsom wants to apologize to trans people for the shit he's done, he's welcome to. He won't, though. Because he agrees with Kirk & co. bsky.app/profile/park...
Newsom would legitimize and push anti-trans policy throughout the Democratic Party. It would be the end of the relative safety of blue states for trans people and mean zero chance of getting federal protections. It's worse for us than Vance because it eliminates opposition to anti-trans crackdowns.
you want to vote for a democrat who agrees with fascists about trans people and you think this will protect your trans kid?
You live in a world where the Democrats don't think embracing transphobic policy is an important path to victory. Once that's no longer the case, your kid will be afraid in every state.
If the choice is GOP or GOPlite I'm voting for Daffy Duck
As someone from the UK - please don't vote for the lesser evil, because eventually they WILL become the greater evil, and one so much worse than the original greater evil you were worried about.
THIS
Absolutely, but I hope it's plain that in the US, our voting system at the federal level prevents the electorate from choosing the greater good I support what you're saying, but I don't know what else can help pave the path towards making better choices other than fixing how we vote, first
Who's running on fixing how we vote?
These ppl at the federal level, but idk who is doing that as a presidential candidate 😅 fairvote.org/our-reforms/...
Cool, well since Newsom is trying to position himself as a Presidential candidate, we should probably not treat him like one of those people, yeah?
I'm not sure I understand - I don't live in California and I don't support Newsom
If we can get more people to come out to vote for a range of good choices and make those choices count (and a bunch of other things), we'd have a stronger democracy The spoiler effect has really done a number on us
It's also possible he'll "evolve". After all, we elected Obama who was pretty firmly against marriage equality in 2008.
That is not a risk anyone should have to take. No trans person should have to risk their lives on the faint hope that a man who has been violently transphobic for years will "evolve".
And even if the time came in November and we did vote for him, why would I give his ass cover now? If I say, "Well, you get my vote no matter what" why would he do anything but shift right?
Newsom is not going to evolve. And there are plenty of other reasons not to vote for him anyway.
Yes - lets not forget how he's decided the best way to solve homelessness is to engage with a stage photo op where he's dismantling a homeless encampment.
He is evolving, the wrong way, into a fucking bigot.
Gamble with your own rights, then, instead of mine.
he did evolve: he changed his mind to support fascist policies about trans people
It's 2025. He vetoed two bills regarding trans health and custody matters here in California on this matter backed by a majority of the California State Legislature.
Yup.