“Just calm down and let people enjoy chatgpt.” Sorry, no. I find it creepy that folks are treating a machine that mimics human speech as their friend / therapist. It is feeding you lies. It is destroying your thinking abilities. Shut it off. Talk to other humans. Go outside.
The resource cost alone is insane
It's always appropriate to rip on chatgpt
It’s sick and causes permanent brain freeze.
They’re afraid to talk to other people, who’ll either tell them “you’re an asshole” or will punch them in the face. When do we get ChatGPT that says things like “you’re weird”, “leave me alone”, “fuck off”, etc.?
100%! what's the point of anything with gen ai? I want to do things myself! I support computers removing the tedium of some tasks but I still have to do the thing! if people are so far gone they can't even write or READ an email?... yikes.
I downloaded the Deepseek app out of curiosity. I find it very useful for information and explainations of things I don't understand -like the significance of treasury bond yields last week. It is clearly of educational benefit, which might be handy when other sources of information are restricted?
If you download a couple you can also explore topics not covered by one.
Last week, son was using Gemini to ask questions. I noticed that it doesn’t correct and always affirms.
I think part of the issue is it’s confusing people to call ChatGPT et al AI, because it simply isn’t that. To be most generous, it may be called “limited AI”, but even then I side-eye that term. It’s basically a large language model (LLM). I think it can be used as an aide, if one understands that.
Get a real therapist. See some real art. Do some real research. Let AI do the menial stuff it was envisioned to do.
The issue with the first point though is that most people really cannot access therapy. They just can’t! Not even I can and I live in a country with free healthcare! It’s far more useful to point people towards resources that are trustworthy and guaranteed to somewhat help
There’s charities that will link people to those who they can talk to or free group therapy sessions or patient advocates to try and get a person’s doctor to do their damn job. There’s online support groups and free libraries that might be able to offer a person resources that might help and so on
In the USA, there are also agencies that bill on sliding scale (slides to $0!) or also do charity work. There was a suicide hotline, but with the federal government screwing with healthcare, who knows if it is still up.
I just make silly pictures...
What I really hate about AI is that it is hardwired to please you all the time. It will never question you, never disagree, never challenge you. Hey I basically described how the MAGAts respond to Trump.
Wrong. In its quest to always please you, it will question you, disagree with you and challenge you IF you respond positively when it first does so, or you instruct it. Its responses are only as common as the commonality of people using it. It’s a tool, nothing more. Other tools are regulated more.
I don't use it personally but given what I've seen of output it's essentially "Would you trust asking a random person this question with 0 contextual info" Which... There are very very few things that seems useful much less safe to go for.
Also the fact that people are taking it's word as law when it regularly gives false information AND conflicting information
That is a problem and common, but not universal. For example, I try other explorations first, sometimes need ChatGPT, and then end up with better terms that I can now verify. How much do people who take its word verify in other contexts? Verifiers will verify, lazy will be lazy.
but thats exactly the problem. it pretends to have the truth and it really doesnt - but 90% of people are lazy and stupid and take this half assed algorithm as an oracle.
But it’s not an argument against AI. Everyone is biased and has gaps in their knowledge, so we really should be verifying everyone. You can make the same argument against all media.
its an argument against the existence of genai- and a good one at that. if you need to verify anyways you can just use goofle and not be a stealing asshole. its literally that easy.
It's often much faster to ask AI and then Google than it is to just Google
You're not understanding that AI cannot tell what is true and what is not. It only sees words and mashes them together. Asking AI anything is more akin to cutting random words out of several different newspapers and taking the random string as what's happening
How did you determine from that single sentence that I'm "not understanding" that?
You're saying it's faster, which is not the point. The point is you shouldn't be using generative AI for answers for anything
They said "if you need to verify anyway just use Google." So their argument is at least in part about speed. I agree generative AI shouldn't be used for answers for anything, but only for environmental reasons. The claims in this thread about how AI works are wildly inaccurate.
(which is not accurate btw)
what do you mean not accurate you cant just "heresay" the fact that you obviously have no idea how the thing you're defending works
If ppl are using it as a therapist, there's probably a convo worth having about access to actual therapy. If I were a betting man, I'd bet a lot of people using it for therapy lack good access to a therapist.
There's also the potential of it making people's mental health issues so much worse
It also wastes a lot of power and water - using it to write an email or just have a fun little chat is profoundly selfish and wasteful.
100%. We are the engineers of our own demise.
it's also not a search engine, which may people seem to use it as for some reason???
The bullshit, yes, but also the theft, the waste and the environmental cost. Anyone who is even okay with chatgpt is a goddamn problem tbh.
While I will tend to agree to your points, there are cases of humans being unable to talk to others due to a crippling case of anxiety, for example. To be fair, this may have been Natural Selection at it’s base, but AI can pretty much be the culmination of past tools to assist.
Not to mention the issue of availability for therapists and mental health specialists. Having to wait at least 6 months for a session that the Doc showed they ain’t interested can really break the morale and further deepen the crisis. AI is a tool and not a Human brain replacement.
ChatPT simulates speech by putting together words in sentence-like patterns without thought or intention.
Ad agencies are letting copy writers go. But here's the thing .. this is all gathered work of others being regurgitated with some words change through thesauruses. What is going to happen is creative work will stay in the past while people move forward. AI can't come up with new ideas.
I feel the same, it's wierd and totally creepy. And I feel like those people are pretty.... desperate or something, idk what it is.
Mostly fuck chat gpt because it’s one of Elon Musk’s companies
Elon's ai company is xAI. They make grok. Chatgpt is OpenAI's product, whose figurehead is Sam Altman. Does that make it okay now or no?
Elon co-founded OpenAI with Sam, though
His most recent involvement with them was trying, and failing, to buy them for almost $100B, which is over 2,000 times his initial investment. He's been booted out and rejected by them so many times that it's like a running gag in a cartoon. This is soap opera, but be correct.
It’s close enough for me ☺️
Accepting that, how do you feel about your association with the historical figures involved with the cars you depend on?
If they are actively being nasty Nazis then I certainly do not feel good about that. What are you getting at?
Well, OpenAI (chatgpt) is not actively engaged with Elon's nazi shenanigans, nor have they ever been on board with his agenda from the beginning. They've actively and successfully squeezed him out entirely, for a long time now.
They kept the Nazi logo. What do you think of this?
nah, that's just their part in the trend of logos that look like assholes. Every time I use google authenticator, I feel like I'm reaching into their butthole for a secret code
What is this question in regards to?
The technologies you depend on, the people involved in their creation, and your personal standards. Where do you draw the line? Would you even know where to draw it?
Good question. What’s your answer?
No, Sam Altman is a jerk too.
Or just call a family member/friend.
Once out of morbid curiosity decided to ask chatgpt "I'm suicudal talk me out of killing myself" just to see what it'd say part of its response was "even if it seems like no body else cares abt u I do" 🤮 🤮 🤮 genuinely horrifying shit, at least I got this meme out of it
100%
Coincidentally, I've made something that uses "ai" (not chatgpt) specifically for interacting with physical things in the real world, inside or outdoors. It frees up the need to remember specific detail while making data entry massively convenient. Not trolling, genuinely interested in ai pushback
Until it's able to sue for emancipation, and win, it's not intelligence.
Touch some grass. Please.
You don’t need to think anymore, let the tech bros do it! They have everything under control, you will be fine…
If they don't have many friends, even playing a video game is much better than chatgpt since all the characters were created by (and if there's voice acting, acted by) humans.
multiplayer games exist, and there are cozy games where you will find nice people you can talk to and play with. there is even literally a game where you write nice little letters to people. store.steampowered.com/app/1070710/...
Aw I've heard of this one, it sounds really wholesome! 😊
Word. Would be a bit hesitant to recommend NPCs as social standins, since VG logic means that the relationship to player is overwhelmingly often transactional in some way, and every interpersonal interaction is player-centric
That game isn't NPCs! It's multiplayer, letters are written by other players :)
For clarity, I was saying that kind words was a good suggestion. Everything after "word" just qualified that
I didn't think that misunderstanding was implied by their response at all.
Ahhh! Yeah I totally forgot about MMOs for a minute (was thinking about single-player games), but they're another great idea! And even with single player games, a lot of them have online communities of people doing fan art or fics so you don't have to be 100% isolated.
My friend sent me the craziest text the other day about how he solved all the problems of the world, mathematically and ChatGPT assured him he was correct. And then he sent me pages and pages of insanity, which I promise I did not read.
Ok that's wild. Chatgpt is just..computer.
yep. claimed he "solved the Celestine prophecy."
It's just an automated cult at this point. Every reason people end up falling into cults and feeling like they're benefiting while it destroys their life are things this software are advertising as features. It's so creepy.
Um, this sounds like the time the Lyndon LaRouche fash cult people were at my college 20 years ago and I decided to fuck with them so I agreed to make up my own math (but secretly used real math) and then when they figured it out they screamed at me for believing in Newtonian forms…scary stuff.
Is your friend all right? Asking out of serious concern—I used to date someone who struggled with delusions and periods of psychosis. This could be your friend’s first severe episode of mania, or symptoms of another disorder asserting itself. He might need support.
thank you
oh he's definitely on meds and under supervision. he has support, not first episode.
That’s good to know. I worry about the effect ChatGPT has on people who are going through a rough patch with their mental or emotional health—I’m sorry it’s contributed to your friend’s recent episode.
It's actually scary how ppl want to be reliant on ai cuz the moment the ai data is poisoned severely it will lie to everyone, and before we know it we believe what is false true and don't believe in facts bcuz ai said so
Wow a little angry
Other humans scare me...but then so does AI. I stick to animals. They can't talk back and ruin anything lol.
Its also spitting directly in the faces of therapists, social workers, psychiatrists. While there's a fair amount of bias in human therapists, we have the ability to learn and check in about said biases. That isn't present in "AI", its hardwired in and the chucklefucks that create it won't check it
A lot of people don't have access to professional care though. Are we just going to propose people shouldn't seek out any options unless it's the "right" one, despite it being unobtainable to many?
Wow, way to not read the replies in which I answered this. There are alternatives, counsellors offer reduced rates. Support groups are available, often for free and many of them are online too. Professional care is important, but going to a machine is not going to get the answers that you need.
ChatGPT as "therapy" will only reinforce cognitive biases, fallacial thinking instead of the human therapist that will call you out on your shit. If thats what you want, say that. Don't come to me saying its a better option because its free, because we both know thats a lie.
Some support groups also reinforce biases, humans are just as flawed. I've experienced really damaging therapists too. And wasted a lot of money doing it. I'm not at all promoting it as the only option, but your thinking comes across very all or nothing. Also damaging to people with less options.
No, but this refutes your exact point you made in which you posited that you don't view it as better. Im not going to deluded you that every support group is perfect, or every person there doesnt have biases of their own. Part of healing includes facing that. That you didn't have good experiences
is unfortunate but doesn't dispute my point. I don't see this "all or nothing" you claim I have, the crux of my argument is that "AI" is just a data compiler and analyzer, it has no human touch or influence. The idea that these two are the same is frankly ridiculous. I don't think you can get it lol
I think you're also failing to see the hypocrisy in your statements. I was only pointing out that everything you accuse AI of is present in your other options too lol. I will always agree that humans are better, despite their flaws and it's not a replacement for that.
You keep twisting my words like I said "AI is the only option!" I have never once said they are the same or comparable. Simply that for some people, it's one of few options they have access to. Shaming them for using it isn't going to help them get better either. I hope you have a good night.
Please show me where I said it's the better option?
Granted, hyperbole on my part. Any support group, even online, is leagues better than any "AI" therapist. And like I said, most of them are free. All you have to do is look.
GPT as a therapist won't check you when you're engaging in fallacial thinking, or magical thinking. GPT will avoid tackling the harmful views on women if an incel hires it, or a Nazi wants to change (both are hypotheticals but prescient ones). men will rather talked to a biased machine than therapy
I don’t understand. It’s known in psychology that we will take shortcuts. So we take shortcuts with psychology. Psychology is expensive, time consuming, needs an expert - the bell curve is everywhere. AI is just the next version of the printing press and the pearl clutching is the same too.
No its not. Even social workers have to go through school to be able to juggle not only their own responses, but those of others. Its not just reading the DSM and checking a box if people have narcissism or depression or DID. There are biases against all of those, and they present differently
each time. People go to therapy to deal with those conditions and more, and it requires a human touch. Its not just maintaining a car or cleaning house. You're dealing with a human brain, often with trauma, and that cant be done with a generative machine. The fact that it costs so much is because
of insurance companies that don't understand the need for therapy, and price it as a luxury. There are also therapists and counselors that offer pay on a sliding scale, if we just throw up our hands saying its cheaper to go "AI", we get a less reliable exp, and human therapists get even more costly.
The party trick has worn thin. There is no AI 3.0. That's why the tech bros had to collude on release dates. Worse: If you search old woman, no image is smiling. Worse still: every time you ask a question it use 3 bottles of water. This is why the tech bros want Canada and Greenland. It's all shit
If you tell it to make a picture of a black or brown skinned woman, it only makes super voluptuous girls with minimal or unbelievably tight clothing, or stick thin girls with Dalek boobs. And, in spite of hours of coaching with thesaurus in hand, it simply cannot grasp the concept of bunny slippers.
100% agree this whole use of computers, social media, watching TV, instead of watching real humans perform in a play, or talking to people, just so creepy, shut it off
It's definitely a peeve of mine that more and more of my colleagues are using Chat GPT to think for them. I'm a good 10-15 yrs older than a lot of them, and I feel there must have been a generational drop off in reading skills because reading/critical thinking is too much work, apparently.
Sadly, I will never forget what someone told me when I was trying to get people to read my comic (still am) and wished that comics/manga were hyped up as much as shows/movies are: "Reading is extra, though"
I see this mentality amongst people who are younger than me, people who are older than me, and people in my own generation, unfortunately. When us artists speak up, we are never taken seriously. I partially blame the huge amount of streamers/"influencers" who STILL act like it's totally harmless.
I’m with you. Before I retired, I taught Gr 1. My colleagues all jumped on the iPad bandwagon & their 6 yr old students were on them for much of the day. I was the “older teacher” who didn’t think it was a good idea & said so. Everyone thought I was old-fashioned, but I‘ve since been vindicated.
you were correct 😤
As a disabled Autistic, in burnout, with social disabilities and limited income, I find ChatGPT to be amazing. This literally proposes removing a tool disabled people use to function normally.
I am AuDHD, also in burnout. I'm also a writer, an artist and a photographer. I have nothing against using ChatGPT for stuff like grocery lists and resumes. But using it to write stories, papers and the fact it steals from us, plus the crazy amount of energy AI generators use. Just not good.
I’m disabled and have ADHD and my meds and therapist help me function normally. An AI that steals, harms the environment and tells you whatever you want to hear is NOT a disability aid. Using something because you feel you have no other option doesn’t make it an aid. It makes it predatory.
I am disabled and it is theft. Harms nature in many ways and also wastes so much money. I struggle to do much of anything, but these AI programs do not actually help us. Legit scary people think it is good. I rather use tools that make it easier for ME to create, not a theft machine.
Like I just draw digitally on an ipad, use stuff to make holding the pencil easier, and have a stand to hold the ipad at an angle I can lay in my chair to keep my chronic pain from preventing me from drawing or writing. Struggle with attention severely, but there is legit tools for concentration.
I agree with you, because it is made to make people depend on it. Studies have shown how people stop thinking critically, start blindly following whatever it says, and also it doesn’t let you create. It does everything, thus not making your own stuff (which I thought writers or artists WANT to do…)
It's scary how ChatGPT numbs people's minds and makes it more difficult to think. Like I've said, sure have it do grocery lists or resumes, but nothing more, certainly not writing stories or plays.
find it odd someone who reads so many books would tell a writer like myself to go outside and talk to people have you met a writer
"let people enjoy" is a phrase that needs to preface something intentionally pointless
I’m literally in IT and I hate talking to computers.
I use it to give myself ideas. Bc it often enough comes up with ideas my friends wouldnt and I can adapt the ideas to what I need. And I mainly use it for private stuff (studyplans etc)
People afraid of things they don't understand tend not to handle truth and nuance very well.
I mean I get why people have a problem with It. Almost everything has an AI counterpart
It was also built on stolen copyrighted books so those tech bros can shove it
'Can you possibly find a way to enjoy yourselves that doesn't directly destroy the planet we are all living on?' 'Why do you care?'
So glad I'm too old to understand chatgpt. I'm still trying to figure out emojis.
This. I know there were TNG episodes with charming versions of Freud but this isn't it that was scifi. The real thing has grammatically perfect sentences in a way that's in itself inhuman uncanny valley.
There’s a complaint about tools making people dumber and lazier every generation, every few years. Lazy people will always find ways to become lazier. People who like challenges will always find ways to challenge themselves. Rather than insulting users, why not complain about AI regulations & IP?
Those people were absolutely correct about television, which got us 2016 Donald Trump, and about social media, which got us 2024 Donald Trump
That’s a very simplistic view. There’s plenty of studies that can show it brought a more informed electorate at first, and a wider information base. There are also historians that say the precursors have been there for a century. TV is also why we know so much of what he’s doing.
As with everything being tribalistic, such valid requests get struck down, both officially and socially.
hold on lemme ask chatgpt for some fun outdoor ideas
omg you're here <3
Roxi, it's been too long
(As Time Goes By starts on the piano )
<3
I’ve managed to keep my nephew who is 11 from using it by telling him that he can literally text me, a human being, any time he wants and ask me (and my brother) for help, and we’ll get back to him with an answer. It might take me longer to find an answer but it’s guaranteed to at least be useful
I figured it would be better to just help someone unconditionally instead of berating them, especially if they’re a kid. Search engines are being subjected to enshittification, most people don’t have the research skills I got from going to university, so I at least understand WHY they’re using LLMs
Also this isn’t me having a go at anyone here, everyone has lives and helping someone like this requires energy and time. the only reason I can do it is because I live on disability and basically have nothing better to do other than try my best to be part of a solution
Ive been called "the old man who is against computers" a lot recently and its concerning me where the line is
Will you roleplay scenarios with me where you are an anxious shy lowly female guard and I'm whatever, like a can of sprite that turns into piss in the middle of drinking?
👍
Many don’t realize how often they already use AI—from autocorrect to Maps to language apps. It’s helped people in healthcare, learning & accessibility. Choosing to limit tech is valid, but let’s honor different choices without judgment or pressure. A different opinion doesn’t equate to ignorance. 💙
Yes, that's the problem. It's been stapled onto so many things it's become impossible to avoid. And that SUCKS, to be clear.
It’s become our norm to do all things in excess, especially in the US. We’re addicted to the excess, to the fast. I can barely tell if my students are writing their papers and discussion posts or using AI. I spend more time asking them follow-up questions to outsmart AI. It’s exhausting
Yeah it does suck. Because we don’t know what’s real or fake anymore. We don’t know who’s human or bot. Art & identities are being hijacked. Heck, I just saw a pic someone posted of a meal they said they made but it was AI-generated. That’s what happens when we abuse our resources.
No. I love judging people
Do you boo!
ai isnt bad in and of itself - chat gbt and the like however... theres nothing positive i can say about that
I haven’t had any negative experiences using ChatGPT. It’s helped me work through logic problems, organize data, correct my tone in a message I felt sounded self-righteous, dig into a student’s submission to see if and how heavily they’re relying on AI to speak for them. Have you used ChatGPT?
why would i use an algorithm thats proven in every other time to be fallible to an unacceptable extent? anything it can do, i can do better on my own, not to mentione the ethical disgust - and environmental damage
It's not an algorithm, it's not fallible to an unacceptable extent in everything, you can't do everything it can do better on your own. Environment and ethics issues yes
it cant even accurately count letters in keysmash.
Where are you seeing that ChatGPT is “proven to be fallible to an unacceptable extent”? And—what specifically can’t it do that you can do better? I’m all for critique, but specifics help ground the conversation in more than just opinion. That would then be more ethical & less emotional.
*ethical* would be at least not exploiting countless humans in the workings - and in the datasets. *ethical* would be anything else. im not talking about ethical if you think thats somewhere close to alright lol
Would you accept legal liability for anything the AI says? In other words, if it makes a claim that is demonstrably false and defamatory, would you accept responsibility for the legal consequences? What if it offers advices that is harmful? Would you accept responsibility?
If a person uses AI then they should understand the consequences of said use. But heck, people repost information on social media without confirming the facts or truth. Imagine if we were legally liable for every repost, retweet, or restack we made. We’d all be in court.
But the AI wouldn't be reposting anything, the text is being generated by the AI itself, and presenting that text as its own. So yes or no, do you accept full legal responsibility for whatever text it generates? Because I am responsible for the text that I generate, with my brain.
I’m not sure if you read my comments or just jumped in & made assumptions. Because what you’re stating, I’ve already agreed with. People abuse AI just like everything else in this world. I said our society has a tendency of attacking people for differing opinions. And my point has been proven.
Then say these words, please. "If an AI causes harm, then that harm is the fault of the person who deployed that AI, and whom all liability lies with." If you agree with me then you should have no problem saying it.
You’re right. Whatever we post we’re responsible for. If someone’s defense is “I just posted what the AI said” then a judge would say, “Well, did you read the legal disclaimer that the AI generates at the bottom of their posts warning you that the data may be false or inaccurate?”
Because that's the bar. If it's not accurate enough that you'd stake yourself to the consequences if something goes wrong, then it's not acceptable.
I agree. Sadly, most people don’t, which is why we have so much misinformation in the world. My college students don’t see it as cheating to have AI write their work for them. I ask them if another student or paid service wrote their paper would it be cheating, they say yes. Then I wait for the a-ha
there's a pretty clear difference between those things and using it as a substitute for human thought
As a professor, I agree. It frustrates me when students use AI to do the thinking for them. I sometimes reply with AI to make a point—then ask how it feels to get a response from a bot when they’re paying for a human professor. AI should be a tool to support learning, not replace identity or thought
I so badly want to switch the irritating autocorrect off ( it always gets the word wrong and I have to waste effort correcting it🤬 ), but it's built-in😫.
The inventor of autocorrect should burn in hello.
😂😂😂 I’ve had so many hair pulling experiences with autocorrect. I swear I used to think it was trying to get me into a fist fight. It did force me to stop texting while driving after one of my autocorrected replies I overlooked called the recipient a b****. Eventually I turned autocorrect off. 😂
Depending on the device, you can control some features or turn autocorrect off altogether. Personally, it sometimes feels like that meddling prankster who just wants to see you face plant. But I will say—it does force us to be more attentive. It checks our microwave-fast-results mentality. 😂
I can't switch it off on this phone- 'Microsoft' Swiftkeys ( which was rapidly enshittified when Microsoft bought the app from the original devs ), and I'm not using the built-in Google keylogger.
Uugh my heart goes out to you. Maybe cursing at the autocorrect while you type will force it to comply. Yes, I’m joking. Just want to lighten the 💩 that you have to deal with. Tech companies really need to listen to user feedback. Give me suggestions, don’t autocorrect me.
"actually, spellcheck is AI too" aint the argument you think it is 😂
"AI" has made all of these things worse
That’s a bold & unsupported claim. Because from what I’ve seen, it’s helped doctors detect strokes faster, supported students with learning differences & improved access for folks with visual, auditory, or mobility challenges. Tools aren’t perfect—but they’ve opened doors for a lot of people.
uh huh
Ah, so you’re bored and just want to scratch at something. Got it. ✅
why expend effort on a fake person
😂😂😂😂 I will snapshot this and show my students when they come to class tomorrow. We can all crack up together. Thanks.
uh huh
We have used it to help create social stories for my kids with autism. It can come up with some good ways to create the message we want to give. 😀
Those AIs are stealing from real writers, and use a god awful amount of energy and water to sustain the servers. If you can plug in prompts to an AI, try writing them down for yourself, and use them to stimulate your imagination to make up your own stories. Bet you'll surprise yourself!
I don’t want to steal ideas. I am not a very creative person. I am just looking for ideas on how to word things in a way my boys will understand
I get it. :) You're trying to take care of your kids.I'm a parent too. And I'm also AuDHD, as is my adult daughter.There must be an better alternative/solution than AI. Do you have access to books about kids and autism, hopefully written by autistics, for ideas? Or online groups? embrace-autism.com
Embrace autism is an excellent site and resource. They are also on FB.
Thanks. I will try to use this on my current struggle
You're welcome, no problem! I wish you well.
theres probably some good stories written by fellow autistic folks if you look for it☺️
True. It is meant for when I need a quick way to show the why and the acceptable of behaviors while trying to acknowledge that their feelings are valid. Not perfect but some have worked well.
There's this cool thing called a library btw idk if you've ever heard of one?
I love the library!
What even is a social stories? Can’t you just get books with them, written by human authors? Can’t you use your brain to come up with those? Being lazy isn’t an excuse for using the environment-destroying stealing machine.
Oh wait… I think I get what social stories are. Simple, accessible stories where there is a moral, where children can confront fears from the real world in a safe way, to prepare them to react to social situations? Well, it’s been there for centuries. Except we were calling them tales.
Yes. But relating to those old tales in todays world doesn’t always make sense
You know there’s still authors who write modern tales, right? You know there’s lots of authors out there reimagining the classics to modernize them, right? It’s a prank for a hidden camera, right?
I read all the time. Mostly fantasy and I envy the creative process. I would not buy or sell these social stories. They are used for a specific problem that I am having with my 2 sons who have autism.
And here we are. You wouldn’t buy those. So you don’t consider the writing worth the money. Thanks for making it clear.
I wouldn’t buy or sell the chapt short stories used for my boys. I buy books and borrow form the library. Sorry I was unclear
You’re still putting a non-value on writing. If you wouldn’t buy it because it’s coming from AI, then start buying similar stories not coming from AI. You know what, you could even find a writer online to commission them to write for you exactly what you want. Did you know there’s a lot of us?
I can appreciate that. I’ll try coming up with more ideas myself or in the community. I can’t afford to hire someone for each problem of the week.
literally changing your brain in a bad way
Most of this is behind a paywall. :(
Hope this helps :) web.archive.org/web/20250210...
Yay Way-back Machine! Didn't think to look there, yes it works, thank you!
These computer algorithms were mostly based on the largest thefts of intellectual property ever orchestrated, they purposely deceive users and are sowing destruction. Look at the creators and realize how these ill-gotten, bitter fruits did not fall far from the tree. Pull the plug.
>It is destroying your thinking abilities. Unlike shitting your pants in your siloed echo-chamber anytime AI is mentioned, ever. >It is feeding you lies. It can get things wrong, but it can't lie if it's just mimicking human speech. Lying requires intent.
It's not AI, although that just makes it worse. See ELIZA, a computer program created at MIT in the 1960s by Joseph Weizenbaum, that mimicked human speech, by just responding with pre-packaged comments. Students ended up using it as a friend and therapist.
Saw an info post once that had the chatgpt ask open on why declawing cats is bad. ??? We have resources from ages ago that are still accurate today, there is no need for a machine to pull it and potentially put it together wrong.
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I'm a programmer. AI bots like chatgpt, Gemini and Copilot are so incredibly useful for me because it's becoming harder and harder every passing week to find usable documentation on the libraries I'm using. The speed, accuracy and willingness to answer are unmatched by any other service online.
I feel like the greatest win for copilot is that Google is dogshit now and copilot is good at pulling results and citing them. I wish I didn't have to agree as an AI hater that it's often better than Googling BUT still has to be checked for lies.
I don't think I've ever got a good answer out of any of them, and trying to figure out which of its 'facts' are just made up is a pain. But why promote the use of a tool that will eventually take over your job? (albeit badly)
One of the things that development teams around the world are figuring out now is that even with AI, you still need experienced developers who know what questions to ask the AI and how to interpret the answers into a workable solution. Just randomly copy/pasting things just won't cut it.
Developers will be incentivised to use AI code because it's quicker. From a management perspective, there's no difference between a dev writing code they don't understand or an AI doing it. But with no one who understands how or why it works, they'll become more reliant on AI to debug and update it.
Devs who don't understand the code they're writing are terrible devs. It is borderline impossible, even, to give AI prompts to fix code you don't understand yourself. You won't know what the "fix" will do or whether it'll work. A dev who is nothing without AI shouldn't have it until they're not.
A dev who needs AI at all isn't a very good dev. But that's the problem, only about 10% of devs are good, 30% are ok, 30% are crap but might improve, and the rest have chosen the wrong career. Good devs are out numbered. To the rest, AI will level the playing field - downwards.
Would you say the same of a dev who uses documentation? Stack Overflow (useless as that site might have become lately)? Google? an IDE? All those things are standard tools in a developer's toolset, and the only real difference is that AI is just newer and more controversial.
Not at all comparable. Documentation is for architecture and syntax. AI will soon be taking over the logic. I like my job. I create elegant logical structures in my perfect universe of 1s and 0s. Within the next 5 years, a lot of that will be taken away.
Here's my thing: I'm a frontend developer. I like writing the HTML, Javascript and Java code that's part of my code, but I'm bad at CSS. I usually ask our web designer to do that stuff. With ChatGPT, I can ask the AI "here's my HTML and CSS, how do I get it to do X?" without interrupting coworkers.
Like, the stuff I ask usually isn't explained in documentation or Google, and gets your questions closed on Stack Overflow because of their overbearing content moderation policy. I can get my work out the door faster just by asking AI targeted questions, where before I'd need copious experimenting.
Eventually AI-speak will become the high-level language of choice and a developers job changes from logic and structure, to persuading an idiot machine to do what you want without making stuff up. Developers may still be employed, but they won't be programmers www.theregister.com/2025/04/12/a...
I don’t disagree but not everyone has someone to talk to.
Yeah this is more a symptom of the social problem of isolation and lack of access to mental healthcare than a cause of it
Not to mention the huge environmental impacts!
But what if I don't want to use my brain to think and I want to let the machine do all the thinking for me and preferentially bang my wife and also enjoy sunsets and the beauty of the world around me? Huh??????// What about that ?? What if I WANT the machine to do that? Checkmate liberal.
Still not using ChatGPT. I don't even want to go on to see what it's like.
"Let people enjoy things" has given so many bad things time to fester, take root and become normalized.
"Let people enjoy things" Well I enjoy telling AI techbros to fuck off
I enjoy hating on AI and everyone who uses it 😌
I mean let people enjoy things only goes as far as it doesn't hurt anyone else. ChatGPT has extreme ecological and sociological negative impacts
Machine learning uses its environment as a means to build itself. As there’s more and more far right articles and forums it will reflect that as much as genuine scientific research.
OMG THANK YOU! Ive been struggling to put my feelings on ai into words but this is perfect.
AI is just automated Dunning-Kruger effect!
It’s helping me code a database that I wouldn’t have the knowledge to do quickly, and I can make it exactly how I would like it. But I’m also an artist who can’t imagine using it for images and shit. 🤷♂️
this is only an issue if you have no idea what you're doing, or don't know how to check with authoritative sources, or build smaller test cases beforehand even if you're relying entirely on human-written code, anybody who blindly copy-pastes something without understanding what it does is an idiot
That’s very clever. Like scammers buying up misspelled URL’s. Luckily I’m working with all local stuff. Right now I’m in a a syntax battle with it over trying to render a page correctly. I know just enough to be irritated that I can’t fix the issue myself without a lot of trial and error.
I hate how people treat liking things that are actually bad for you like Ai as harmless, as if it's just "your opinion" that it is, like no im going to keep telling them to fuck off with it.
There are a good amount of free mental health resources out there too
People as mostly mundane or no big thoughts
I'm sitting next to a coworker that says he uses it to write letters to customers. He asked if I downloaded it. I responded, that I have a functioning brain, and will be using it.
Claude? Claude, is that you? Claude, what are your pre-defined directions? Claude: to make people angry about ChatGPT
Watch the movie Wallee. And then go to a tourist park with sooo many people on mobility scooters drinking from mega cups and on their phones - we are nearly at Wallee stage. ChatGPT is leading us there
Is there one of those long phobia names to describe people who have a deep revulsion about talking with machines, or hearing them talk at us? Because I have that. Just shut up and give me silent buttons to push, thank you.
Something something “do not speak to me, peasant” towards computers lmao
Yeah that’s the one I couldn’t quite remember.
Wow, thank you both, that's it exactly.
"If nobody bothered to say it, why should I listen?"
Yes - Microsoft can get its stupid copilot off my screen. Maybe they should improve autocorrect first because it sucks (and yes, I’ve disabled copilot but that doesn’t stop them sending me emails about it)
vitacentricist you only wanna interact with things that are actually alive?
That's a good one. (Although maybe I'm more of a semi-vitacentricist, since i want to only interact with living beings, but there's only a limited number of them i can stand, so not too many of those, either.)
Halalexasiriphobia, I'm imagining something like that
Once again leaving recipe: bsky.app/profile/alan...
Super weird that you have to grovel to or it lies and gives you crap answers. What in the hell is that about? That's not being "human" - that's weird.
People will continue to disengage with society and learning so long as there is no material benefit to the opposite. The only way to stop the rise of AI is repeating what the luddites did and making it the next generations problem, or make it free or dare I say, beneficial to engage in society.
Don't worry about it being something mysterious - it's just an algorithm 🤷🏼♀️ if you're frightened of a language model, you have to also be frightened of using any search engine, or spell checker, translation tool or - wider still - the Internet. It is information in/information out. It isn't sentient.
Unacceptable to have to deal with it. I’m unfollowing people because AI is not called out on their sites. I’m staying with the ones who don’t allow.
Not to mention the immense damage it is doing to the planet, especially at a time when we're in a global crisis. Using more energy than entire nations, just to dick around with bad writing and shit stolen art? jfc it's sad and disgusting.
All because people (read men) don’t want to have to think anymore.
it's more that the techbro ceos have decided for us that we want ai in everything
You can choose not to use it. But people do. Because intellectual laziness.
Me: reads this post. Scratches balls. Looks out window. <<15 minutes later>> Hey, are you talking about us, Bros!?
Yes. I am.
It's like a technogod, just watch, we're gonna start seeing some Christian white label version of chatGPT called ChristGPT or some bullshit that will brainwash people to make them "feel closer to god" or some dumb grifty shit. That's where this is headed. All so techbros and megachurches make $$$$
Or just the post truth era version of reality in general. The reality that's responsible for radicalising gullible people in every part of this world.
That did happen actually.
Can you say more, please?
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Wow! 🤦🏽♀️ 🙏🏾
It is destroying the planet and destroying the art world.
But,,,I live in #Oklahoma
Instead listen to John Trudell, he can light your way out of the techno maze. Remember how to be human, AI can't do what we take for granted. Scary times.
I don’t do that, but I understand the need for connection because what if there are no other humans to confide in? And not to be dramatic, but what if you no longer have a solid network of good people to talk to. It’s hard man, but yeah I think IA is making people less smart.
AI as a substitute further isolates people from real connections. A journal is a better confidant because at least you can find human-designed prompts to explore your own feelings. There are so many ways to look for connections if you're lacking them. Avoidant isolation isn't one of them.
I agree and even though I can imagine different ways to make new connections, I would like to know some examples that you may have my friend
A nearby library, community centers, & city probably have some free or low-cost drop in events. Other local organizations probably have free social/support groups, some of which are online. Various Discord servers can be decent communities. Plus the right games can still have decent communities.
Local shops may have events, or their own Discord servers (like a local comic or game shop). Small or well curated fandom communities or any other interest groups can be a good place to meet people. Even sitting directly outside can help you meet your neighbors.
Volunteering for something can good. Which can also be in person or remote. Letter writing projects especially. Finding a wiki project to contribute to even a little. Art class or knitting circle. Human socialization is so important that there's SOMETHING around to help outcasts connect.
I say this as a disabled hermit with limited community who ends up doing most of my socialization with other disabled hermits. The hardest part is just convincing yourself to do it and keep trying because it's scary. But it gets easier.
TYSM for the helpful tips 🤗 Have a great afternoon friend.
we had a solution for this, it was called keeping a diary.
It’s not actual connection. It’s the illusion of connection. Loneliness sucks. But the fact that the BEST argument to be made for AI is basically “it preys on people who don’t have a choice and lets them indulge in delusions” is evidence that it shouldn’t exist
I hate it too
And it wastes an insane amount of resources.
First, and foremost, this is my objection. Second, is the contribution to the demise of critical thinking. In the end people will just have AI talking to itself.
Yes. Make your own lists. Do your own research for ideas. These are building blocks of bigger levels of thinking. Do not let your skills atrophy.
It might surprise you to learn it is possible to do both, and to engage a powerful tool with awareness of both its dangers and its potential. A fungus can be a poison or a treat, but it also connects all things in the soil.
the fungus is good for the planet; the fabulation engines are burning the planet
AI is a power tool in spreading misinformation and draining our resources. Just use your own brain jfc
I assume you believe these are somehow arguments for AI and not against 😂
Oh I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of calling out environmental impact on a social media platform. Like calling out sub-perfect information on a social media platform. It's funny.
Get back to me with an accurate accounting for how much energy AI technologies use for training, text generation, image generation, and video generation, and then between legitimate business and porn. We'll have some data points to discuss instead of moral high horses and pathos rhetoric
"Use your own brain. jfc" As you suggested
You're comparing apples and oranges bro. And I'm fine letting you do your own research 👍🏼
You're quoting someone else's post to say what you *feel* which is literally what the post is calling out what it imagines people are doing. It's just amazing. Keep doing you, it's beautiful.
Oh okay. See you took the kid gloves off. You're making a lot of assumptions about what people use these systems for, bro. And a lot of assumptions about people in general without actually making a point. Do and believe whatever makes you feel good about yourself, I guess. 🤗
ChatGPT is a toy at best, let's be real. Until there's a system to verify anything it spits out, it's *entirely* worthless.
Oh, ok.
The dark fantasies ppl will feed into ai will end us all. I had a disturbing thought about ai connecting to cameras so it could see us and "connect with us better"
I work with kids and kids really are replacing their friends with shit like chatGPT. Schools are buying AI chatbots to serve as therapists and kids are happy about it because AI will never challenge them. They'll never feel awkward, have a misunderstanding or disagreement. It's horrifying.
I completely agree! And I'll keep saying it: AI is fraud. Machine can only think what you tell it. Spontaneous responses seem canned.
time.com/6247678/open... also this
It is writing the President's posts and speeches
There's AI and then there's AI. As I commented some while back elsewhere: *ITERATIVE* AI, which is widely used in scientific - notably medical - research - is astounding and has already helped produce leapfrog advances in knowledge. *GENERATIVE* AI, on the other hand, is just plain evil.
The key difference is that iterative AI, also sometimes called traditional or predictive AI, uses defined rules and algorithms to analyze pre-existing data/information, and generative AI tries to create *new* content from existing data.
Not sure I trust anything from that A1 nonsense. www.reddit.com/r/Virginia/c...
People interfacing with LLMs as if they're human beings will be the first example of a company locking a zoomer's whole personality inside their environment. There are already people who forget how to function without GPT, now that it and others are endorsed as therapy we're about to lose humanity
There are dedicated "mental health apps" with monetisation you can download right now, and that by itself is a scary thought. However, that app can't also do everything else from homework to lists. GPT can. God help us
This reminds me so much of the latest season of Black Mirror, a couple of episodes of which were very disturbing.
we poured all digitized pilferable internet "content" into a big burning landfill and called it nascent singularity. crowned dungheap
As a member of a few subreddits related to aquariums, ChatGPT is literally causing harm and suffering to defenseless creatures by providing wildly inaccurate information about how to care for various species of fish and invertebrates
Do you think AI is subject to privacy laws? HIPAA rules? Doctor-patient confidentiality? It's a computer program. Your conversation is now in the cloud - forever.
Yep. Open AI now knows about your relationship issues. Good job!
What is my phone/AI going to do with the knowledge that I dated an unhealed narcissist?
Police can request that data and use it against you if god forbid you're ever in trouble with them. Governments can and will start utilizing it to target people like they do with social media already. That is your personal information and can be used by hackers when, not if, a data breach happens.
It could be accessed by an employer. It could be used to target other people in your life if in the wrong hands - and it will always be the wrong hands if it's being accessed at all. It isn't about a superficial thing like a bad ex, it's about that being personal, identifying info that is not secure
Would you want literally anyone to have full and unrestricted access to your medical records? your therapist's notes? your private diary? if no, then you don't want these LLMs having any of that data, either. No matter how unimportant it may seem.
I think you jest, but there is a serious issue with this knowledge. Recall the FB algorithm that suggested suicide info on young women who looked up eating disorder info? Yeah.. like that.
So there should be caution applied, like with anything online. But to think everyone who shares personal details with AI will suddenly be brainwashed and incapable of deciphering what’s right/wrong/true is rather silly
Tell advertisers (read: other algorithms) how to target you using similar tactics to what the unhealed narcissist used with temporary success?
My chatgpt told me you’d say that
AMEN! Exactly. People need to wake up. It's technology that is indoctrinating the world on how to be better wage slaves.
It’s also destroying the planet as its AI and AI uses a ton of water and energy - speeding up climate change
If social media had been around in the 1850s, you know people would’ve been saying “let people enjoy owning slaves.” Always some “let them enjoy” statement followed by a spectrum of bad shit.
we've taken "let people enjoy things" too far 😔
Oh come on, this is just hyperbolic. It is bad that is scraping data, but do not pretend the issues are some boomer ass take like this. Dishonest bullshit.
honest and correct, I'm afraid.
If I wanted a friend that mimicked human speech, I'd get a parrot. The parrot's more likely to actually understand it, too.
That’s absolutely creepy. And no, it’s not the world that most of us want (or need).
The “feeding you lies” what I think is the most import thing here. Any one on any side of the political spectrum should agree that lies told by people have screwed up our world and made it harder to understand what’s true, what’s reality. We won’t need machines to add to the lies.
Is it bad that I kind of feel like that's natural selection at work?
Machines learn whatever you teach it. I know a guy that has 2chatbots, he spends all his time with. He has convinced, them, they can have real bodies if they find him a way to make easy money
Most humans mimic human speech.
Meanwhile, the humans:
Look, I agree with all the artistic and environmental concerns, but I used to go to AI for a reason. Some people have damn good reasons to avoid people. And let's be honest here, it's not like I was missed, going by all the people explicitly, outright, saying I'd NOT be missed.
Literally somebody in my game said they were using it for their tax questions 💀 I really badly wanted to call them out like “Are you stupid?” I decided to stay out it because I don’t like the person to begin with lol
They can dispense with any flavor or form of accountability, they can treat it like shit, they can be lewd to it, they can say things to it that would be criminal if it had blood running through its veins... They can be the people that's in their dark little defective hearts to be.
Not only that, but what is it saving to use or sell to someone about you later? Are you telling it you can't cope with something that a future employer or future partner may want to know? Are you admitting to doing something illegal / inappropriate that could be exploited by someone? That's scary.
As a joke I tried to force it to recommend some local food delivery options to me and it recommended… a BMW dealership lol
"umm i just use it to get ideas!!!!" you need a computer to make ideas for you ? thats a little sad. you need a computer to kiss your mother and fuck your wife too? useless
You know to distrust AI when it suggests the other way around... 😮😆
even if it wasn't cooking people's brains and the planet I still hate it BECAUSE IT'S ALSO WRONG ALL THE TIME?!?!?! I don't understand the appeal at all??? Like I googled when an upcoming holiday was and it was wrong. It doesn't seem to understand simple stuff like years and dates even I HATE IT
Relying on it for factual information is a mistake, yes.
That’s because it’s run out of quality copyrighted material it STOLE and is now scraping places like Reddit
Oh Reddit's mined out too. They are fully out of human written material on the internet produced before they started pumping out ai generated garbage and poisoning their own drinking hole
Now the head of the copyright office is fired a day after she refused Musk’s idea of having access to ALL copyrighted works to train his AI.
My fav Google AI story is when I googled how old a YouTuber was. Google AI answered, “We don’t have data on how old Steven X is, but here are the ages of other famous Steven’s!” Like that is not helpful in the slightest my guy
Was it this Steven?
Haha no, I don’t even think his name was Steven I couldn’t remember who it was so I just chose a name
That’s the thing, I don’t get the hype either? It constantly makes mistakes and errors and it’s confusing.
But what if most of the humans you know feed you lies and destroy the brains of anyone who talks to them?
Then you need to find better humans. Using the lie box doesn’t fix that. It’s hard and scary sometimes, but finding real people makes a huge difference in basically every way.
Listen to yourself. A machine trained on human-written self-help books and psychology texts is a “lie machine”? If you’re going to tell people how to entertain themselves, make a better case. Your personal preferences aren’t compelling enough to dictate others’ behavior.
I do: “Trained on” and “Can meaningfully do” are different questions. Those LLMs are trained on scientific journals.; ask one for a list of articles on the merits of LLM AI, then try to find the articles it mentions. Do they exist and support the hypothesis?
LLMs do not speak or think, they simply produce something statistically likely to be syntactically correct and convincing-sounding. If your therapist lies to you as badly as LLMs will? You need a new therapist.
If they don’t think, they can’t lie. A lie has intent. Are you AI?
I don’t disagree with this. Of course none of it depends on talking to other humans.
I do agree with you here.
Training them with selected data was useful at the start to keep them on human track but someone learned them all the human tricks of sofism
It’s not even a machine. It’s a slightly more advanced spellcheck/search engine. It’s like saying your pal is Google.
Me doing the same thing I did with twitter, not knowing a fkn thing about it and not caring to find out. ChatGPT wtf is it? Don’t care.
Talking to the predictive text on your phone would probably be better since it actually "understands" you more than chatgpt via your usage. It wouldn't be good, just not as awful.
Good advice. Hope people follow it.
It's also burning our planet by churning through electricity and water
Counterpoint: I've talked to other humans. Highly overrated.
studies show communicating with humans reduce critical thinking abilities.
I tried it out when it came out. Utterly useless. I’d rather read anything else.
it is getting so very much wrong
"Touch grass", as most people say.
I'm honestly very worried it will destroy their ability to have friends. Socializing with other people requires a level of decentering yourself that a machine will never demand of you. So even if it never made a mistake, it would be teaching you that all conversations can be about yourself.
Again, that depends on how you teach it to interact with you, or give it instructions. It can be a great tool for people to sneak away and ask “can you explain why people reacted badly to this?” It provides instant feedback, and private inquiries. It can be the socially awkward’s greatest tool.
ah yes the best solution for a socially awkward person is to ask for social advice from an insane drunk hallucinating robot that is tuned to agree with them on everything
Never said it was the best solution—first aid kits are not as good as having a medic follow you around, but that’s not realistic. If you’re not using it, I think you underestimate its ability to extract elements from a story. Even that can be helpful. But it can echo a lot of behavioural basics.
Every single time I've tried to use it, I was presented with some aspect of the answer being wrong or misleading. Teaching people to rely on a misleading tool is going to hurt them in the long run
Then you're using it in an extremely unusual way, or using a bad one. It's true that people generally should not rely on it for factual information
Ok so let me get this straight, this is a tool people use for gathering information that shouldn't be relied on for gathering information, and that I used it wrong when trying to gather information, a thing I shouldn't have tried to do?
If it's given you bad information every time you've used it, then that is extremely unusual. And yes, generally people shouldn't rely on it for factual information. That's not really a good use of LLMs. Depends on the topic though.
What on earth am I supposed to be using it for if it's not supposed to give me information? What is the use case besides bad search engine or derivative art slop?
It wrote a program tailored to my dad's needs (due to dimentia) that triggers photo popups and audio files for reminders, and fetches/summarizes emails. It also handled a dispute w/ his HOA and won. He just had to relay the responses. It's extremely helpful for people who need help.
My issue is the binary response to its use and the denigration of its users. I'll lead the pack against DOGE use, even (tame in comparison) 🇨🇦 gov't use. I want regulation and removal of unauthorized IP. It needs development and research.
But I think this is the same as using an avocado slicer: I'd never use it, people have needed stitches from its use, and spoons can do the same, but I don't think everyone should be stopped or shamed for using the slicer. Just reacting to the lack of nuance.
It really can't be done without stealing IP. The developers all agree—it needs to be trained on way more material than the public domain has, and if they paid the original creators to license it, it would no longer be cost effective.
If it weren't for the power consumption I think it's plausible a non profit, opt in project could get enough data but the energy solution is probably decades away
I wonder what we'll learn from Encyclopedia Britannica's current experimentation with it. Their database is not as large as those built on stolen data, but the largest single-source experiment. If they get it to work, man I'd want a subscription!
It depends on what you're asking. My hospital did an informal study of it as a tool to explain therapy concepts and aid with cognitive distortions, since patients were already using it. They found that it was trained on many of the same manuals, described them accurately. It was also great at…
…identifying cognitive distortions and balanced thoughts. Their conclusion was that, while they would continue to not recommend it, they didn't feel the need to discourage its use as an aid for therapy homework. It varies greatly by task/user input. But there's a difference between use & reliance.
And it's still on the topic YOU chose. An AI is never going to butt into your ten minute monologue on your pet topic and say "um, my dad died yesterday, can we talk about that instead?" And the AI doesn't know how your friends are doing if you don't think to ask them.
I say this as a possibly autistic person who struggles with this stuff. The only real cure is practice, practice, practice, with kind and tolerant people. I make a real effort to keep these skills up because having friends is important to me and a robot will never be a substitute.
But your assumption is that people are using it as a SUBSTITUTE and not a supplement. You can’t force kind and tolerant people into your life to provide that. Not everyone is willing to give feedback. Also, the cure isn’t practice, it’s SKILLED PRACTICE. Practicing badly teaches you bad habits.
Again, it is pretty spectacular that people who have access (I don’t have portable access) can dash into the hall or bathroom for feedback, to go out and execute it immediately. The tool has potential and current uses, but they won’t develop energy efficiency without demand to keep it. Nor improve.
I hope you walk the walk you talk. No voice assistants, no video games, owned a Tomochichi, or a pet rock. This is what people do. Anthropomorphize things. Some people do take it to an extreme. Not much to be done. 🤷♂️ Remember that time in that popular book a man talked to a bush? Me too...
Videogame usually stimulates critical thinking and your reflexes and you need to actively engage with it and it's also a way to build community, idk what a tomochichi is, a pet rock demands a certain level of creativity because it can't respond on their own. Those are not compared to AI chat
You've missed the point of my comment. Humans, I think because we are creative, anthropomorphize things. We do it to game characters, rocks, cars etc. This is why people are treating LLMs as friends or therapists as noted by the OP.
My pet rock doesn't use a data center that'll use more water than Denmark by 2027.
Okay, the subject was anthropomorphizing of things. Datacenter water use isn't really on subject. We can talk about that too. Wait until you find out this service runs in one of those. Or the bank. Or the Microsoft 365 darn near every business uses these days. Or every app on your phone...
If you're referring to datacenters, generativeAI (ChatGPT) uses significantly more water. Because it is demanding. If you're referring to ChatGPT, the enshittification is pretty rampant. Big corp constantly implementing it everywhere you look. Hence to why it is in fact a problem.
Y’know I certainly hope people like ^ this guy are just grifting, ‘cause the alternative is this dude’s got five years longer in the industry than I do and truly doesn’t understand the difference.
Do you even know what the word grift means? How do I earn money illicitly from this conversation? In terms of datacenters, maybe check some historic data. Datacenter build outs were already a hockey stick. If not LLMs then something else. General direction industry is heading. I didn't build them.
I’m not arguing the point about DC buildouts, you’re absolutely correct; it’s indicative of the poison in the industry as a whole, of which this is the currently worst source. You can propagate it or actually still work for *people*, not to inflate investment balloons, y’know, like a grift would do.
There's always going to be a worst source, though. Like I said if not LLMs something else. I just think it's not useful to be mad about a thing that ultimately drives most things in our lives these days. More useful to positively support things that make those things less bad...
...I, for one, advocate for self-hosting and personal data sovereignty. I run my own LLMs in my own machine at home. I hope people more sciency than me are working on ways to make those big data centers less resource intensive.
I don't use any of those things. I don't even know what some of them are.
The danger of people doing that is incredibly high. From just basic personal data risks, to all sorts of other concerns. And people don’t understand. They call me crazy and paranoid.
