That Kamala interview was heart breaking because it's one of the few times that I've ever seen a national political figure say the system is broken and that trying to work within it to change things probably wont work.
That Kamala interview was heart breaking because it's one of the few times that I've ever seen a national political figure say the system is broken and that trying to work within it to change things probably wont work.
For me, the stand-out thing she said was “the capitulation that has taken place was not foreseen”
She’s the REAL that we are missing. Sometimes the behind the scenes is more powerful.
Heartbreaking but the honesty is truly appreciated.
Hopefully this realization will finally be adopted by the Dems before it it too late. MAGA needs to be defeated by any means necessary and working within the system is not the way.
Yes, that was the most intense moment of the interview, and perhaps it was’nt perceived as such so much. What I also felt was that even now she still has this charming but convoluted expression style. That did her no good. Compare with Zohran or Kat.
True. She always said change would come from the voters. If they didn’t choose laws & democracy on the ballot, they would lose them. Once lost, no mechanism from a corrupted Congress , Senate & SCOTUS majority -GOP system would allow them back.
Which is why I’m disappointed in her. She didn’t fight for us . I don’t trust her now
The voters are the ones that have to fight. She did a fine job campaigning. But people couldn’t bear voting for an intelligent, well educated woman of color. She’s one person. What’s the voters’ excuse. We let this country down especially the Dems that didn’t vote.
I’m still sure Elmo jury rigged the results
Me too
He did something in NY and PA, for sure.
92% of Black women voted for Kamala. They warned us. Now we are paying the price.
Right?!
Exactly!
She did a fine job campaigning? She offered zero reason for progressives or anyone at all concerned with Gaza to vote for her, she let Biden campaign centrist control strategy, she tried to coast to the finish line on feel good celebrity appearances that stopped calling out danger...
Congress has power of the purse not the president. Congress. Republican. If progressives knew they would’ve voted to get rid of a Republican Congress instead of worrying about a president only able to tinker around the edges. (Netanyahu is a murderer.)
And, I mean, of course I voted for her, but losing EVERY swing state? Hard to accomplish!
I agree. That’s why I’m mad she didn’t contest it!
Oh she lost all right. Elections are not easy to rig (source: me, an election judge).
The system needs improvement such as banning felons and bribes from all offices. The people are the problem. They may(???) have fairly elected. 14th Amendment no insurrectionists ignored by SCOTUS.
Agreed. We have to take it to the streets. The media cannot ignore mass protests even if Trump threatens them all.
It's the truth.
Public servant since 1994’.
This assessment is misguided. According to a quick search. Wealth % Total Wealth Share of Total Wealth Top 1% $49.46 trillion 30.8% Top 10% $58.34 trillion 36.4% 50%-90% $48.54 trillion 30.3% Bottom 50% $4.01 trillion 2.5% The problem is due to a small # of people. Extrapolate
Exactly. She literally said we can’t fix a broken system if we lose it to fascism.
It’s sad, sickening, and absolutely correct.
Her husband’s law firm is giving $100 million in pro bono services to Trump administration. That’s not going to be a good look if she runs again.
Fuck what doesn’t look good. Get her in and all that will change. Come on people. THINK POSITIVE SHES GOT MY VOTE.
I hope you’re right. But my trust is running on empty right now. I don’t trust anyone who bends the knee to this administration.
I know. I’m with you on that thought. She is smart. She is experienced. She’s had time to learn from any mistakes. I don’t see anyone who is more experienced than her. Once again I say. SHE WILL HAVE MY VOTE IF SHE RUNS.
I will vote for her also. I think she is brilliant. She needs to be take no prisoners strong.
I am with her too Carla! Her campaign was fabulous! She had such joy and such a good heart! I never have wavered my support for Kamala Harris!
@fedup90611.bsky.social 💯
You need to get your facts straight.
It is accurate. Though Doug Emhoff opposed the deal.
You just fucked your own argument with “though.” 🤦♀️
My point is not that this is Doug Emhoff fault. It’s not, but when Harris is running in primary others will use this against her, right or wrong it’s politics.
My hope is she never runs for anything again. She would have more attempts on her life than Obama and that’s a high bar. Amazon was selling sexual t-shirts of her,on knees to Trump during the campaign. Doug’s firm is just a blip. This country is not worthy of her…and won’t be for a long time.
She ambitious, she’ll run again. I think she would make a fantastic president. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Ugh, really?
He’s not doing it personally, but still disappointing.
Ofc.
See this is what I mean you just posted he was now you say not him personally?? Make up your mind! Do you tell your company how to run their business? 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ do better friend!
That is not true! His law firm agreed due to extortion! Doug Emhoff personally opposed the deal. he urged firm leadership to push back legally, calling the executive orders unconstitutional, He was overruled! His wife PUBLICLY criticized his firm. So stop with these unfactual statements aka lies!
Not unfactual. 7 attorneys left due to the law firm capitulating: www.reuters.com/legal/govern.... He condemned them but didn't leave & he could've resigned like his colleagues. Also, other law firms didn't capitulate. Lots of ppl sell their souls for $$$
So he is to give up his career bc he disagrees with his boss? I disagree with my boss daily. perhaps staying and still being able to fight for democracy was better than leaving. Clearly we aren’t going to agree on everything! Until you know why he stayed one can not assume!
People currently working in it broke the system. It evolved very fast, impeeding tries to stop it. Everyone involved would need to be replaced, with a plan to put the system back together again & make it impossible to break using a few key players. No easy fix: it's a constitutional crisis.
But are you going to trust a hard nose cop at the end of the day? What kind of changes does she want to see really? The real heart break is how racist and misogynistic most of America still is to create a dumb excuse to avoid voting for her. Cop or not, she is leagues beyond Trump intellectually.
😢
But this IS WHERE WE ARE NOW...BROKEN. So MARCH tomorrow because it scare thye shit out of all of them when they see our numbers amassed as ONE VOICE. IMPEACH TRUMP
She is right
She’s always honest. America fucked up. We could’ve had a president who is that honest. Now we’re all finding out.
It’s like having to write lines because someone else was goofing off in class. So unfair.
if Democrat's want to win, they need to lie, because all they care about is eternal holy war against cities, trans people, refugees and 'arabs' and the people hate genocidal maniacs that want to kill us all for jesus
She’s an opportunist and a liar. As fake as they come. She supported genocide and is a war criminal. She lied about working 24/7 to stop the genocide and ran a terrible campaign. Look at what Mamdani did. He’s a genuine person who tan a great campaign.
No she is not always honest, she wasn't honest with us during the campaign. She's a politician,she wouldn't have been anymore honest than Biden, he wouldn't have chosen her as VP if she were.
She was honest about not wanna stop the Gaza genocide and that was cool right
And then promised more bombs to commit “unconscionable” acts in Gaza.
"I like falling for Russian propaganda." That's a lot quicker to write, for future reference.
Why are you like this? www.bbc.com/news/article...
www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-s...
An arms embargo for Israel polls amazingly well; unlike gay marriage back when Obama said this
That’s a somewhat important difference!
yeah, and fuck him too for that. Your point?
Just maybe politicians take shitty positions while campaigning before abandoning said position after being elected?
Shitty and unpopular? Sounds like a bad candidate
Cool, fuck them for that
cant deny that it happens but similarly cant count on it
Biden prodded Obama on 🏳️🌈.
"not to worry the supreme court wouldve stopped the arms regardless of her input"
Disliking people contributing to genocide is Russian propaganda now?
Yall not voting Kamala is why we are where we are at so now you’ve genocided Gaza and your own neighbors. Hope it was worth it. Yall killed more ppl by not voting for the person who could have limited the killings bc not voting is still an action w consequences.
I'm sorry but you have to look at what this current regime is doing, and if you didn't realize the difference at the time then you just weren't paying attention.
I need look no further than what the previous regime was doing, which as you may recall, wasn't just "Vacant" and "Vacanter" for POTUS and VP
This shit-for-brains moron would rather a pedophile be President than a Democrat.
She never once said that and one of the privileges that non black people have is benefit of the doubt. I’ve had to stay silent in so many things professionally and beg for forgiveness. Yall have no idea what moving in that way is so you glimmer on to what she did under the white guy and f’d us all
you fail the Trolley Problem. All the suffering you deplore is happening and more because of it. Or maybe you just hate our people and want us to suffer as retribution. Either you’re a fool or a hater. No real other choice here. So which is it?
Trump is not Black people's fault. And a non-genocidal party not being on the ballot is not a great sign for democracy. How much has to go wrong in a democracy until you get to that point? And who held the power?
I didn’t blame black people. I blame anyone who voted for Trump or didn’t vote. Yes, a lot went wrong to get us here. The answer isn’t sitting on your hands. You vote in the election you have not the one you wish you had. If you voted MAGA or stayed home, take responsibility for your choice.
This stupidity is almost unbearable. And it seems by now you didn't pay anything for it. Instead, people in Gaza do. You must be very proud now.
I highly doubt she would have allowed things to get this bad.
While she was VP and a candidate for president, tens of thousands of Palestinians were slaughtered by Israel, and she said nothing but Israel's talking points, and her surrogates on her campaign justified it. There's no reason to believe she would have been at all better.
There's plenty of reasons to believe that she may have been (operative word being may btw) but it really doesnt matter anymore.
I guess it's a little hard for me to see given what was happening last year and the complete and total silence or worse on the issue from her. She doesn't seem to have Trump's overt desire to inflict cruelty, but how does anyone in power go along with this and not speak up? I don't understand it.
There have been a few instances where the white house has mase her rewrite her speeches about Israel because her words were viewed as too harsh towards Israel. She also privately told Palestinian organizers that she would be willing to meet with them and hear them out and also had some harsh
I think you're right. My feeling has always been that she was riding the middle long enough to get elected. Unfortunately, either she or her advisors made some unwise decisions which lost her a lot of votes.
I feel like she often does that in her political career, running to the middle in an effort to pick up votes and she just alienates the people who did support her. She should cut that out if she isn't doing it sincerely.
Agreed! 100% She came out so strong and either got nervous or let consultants get in her ear. People need to let go of the idea of the undecided voter, which I don't believe exists, and go all in for your base.
Bingo
Isn’t it more likely, and also more common historically, that a candidate do less then they say they would before an election? Yalls are wanting her to have come out strong against the genocide…i feel like yalls hypothesize her goodness and I feel like a pessimist
Also quite possible, though I know she wouldn't have come right out and told Netanyahu to flatten Gaza. I've never been presented with a candidate that I fully support, but in US politics you have to practice harm reduction, unfortunately.
Words for Netanyahu behind closed doors. Does this guarntee that she would have broke substantively from Biden? No. But politicians have been known to take abhorrent positions during campaigns only to pull a 180 once elected. Obama ran against marriage equality and ended up supporting marriage
Equality once he was elected. Also, Carter ran as a segregationist in 70' only to become one of the most racially progressive presidents of the 20th century. Kamala very well could have done the same thing, and i would say the uncommitted movement coming out and saying "Yeah, Kamala hasn't gone done
Enough to address Gaza yet, but please do not let Trump get elected" was sorta indiciative of that possibility.
Biden kicked up the door in Gaza for trump to do his thing and Kamala held the door on is way through
Why? She spread Zionist propaganda and covered their atrocities. What did she do for Palestine that vp Vance hasn’t done, tell me how she’s better!? All of them are pro genocide
You really believe she would have forced all Palestinians to leave their homes so she could build a resort? Or that she would starve children? I certainly hope not.
You really believe she’d done anything to stop the genocide? Make it make sense
I think it's wild you guys are so determined to torpedo your own political interests that you will make up hypothetical fucking scenarios about how the Democrats would have supported something "if they won, which they didn't but if they did maybe they would have"...Do you fucking hear yourself?
*We have a secret police and concentration camps HERE now*, entirely from the actions of one party but yeah sure let's argue about what a candidate who didn't win may or may not have done for some people on the other side of the planet, in a hypothetical alternate reality. You absolutely donkeys.
Fuck genocide again…we are pro American and pro safe kids and pro better gun control! Pro Medicaid pro SNAP pro healthcare pro fuck tariffs or Pro get con men out of office. We are not fixing your pathetic nation when we can’t fix our own. GTFOH
God you're an idiot. 1) Harris was the VP. Not the President. She didn't get to decide shit under Biden. 2) Trump is happily standing by while Israel starves the population in Gaza and then threatening Western nations that move to recognise Palestine (e.g. Canada).
if she was going to end the genocide as president, why didn’t she fucking say that lol
Another child blaming their moronic decision to vote for Trump, 3rd party or not vote at all on Harris. Own your own stupid decision. And grow up next time. If, that is you get another vote.
why can’t you answer the question?
She decided to not mention any change to policy for her campaign. She decided to publicly state that Israel has a right to defend itself over and over again. You think a Vice President takes zero responsibility for the cabinet she's a part of? Especially when she was running for President?
And morons like yourself clearly did one of three really stupid things:1) Vote for Trump who heartily endorses everything Israel does; 2) Flush your vote on a 3rd party candidate; 3) Not vote. Either way you are partially responsible for the worsening situation in Gaza. Own your stupidity.
I'm Californian, the electoral college makes presidential decisions for me. This rhetoric is tired and weak. Stop running cover for an active participant in genocide. This should not be difficult.
Oh for fucks sake. No they fucking don't. They direct all electoral college votes to the winner of the Presidential ticket in the State. That doesn't excuse you for being a child who threw away their vote and helped elect a Dictator because Harris wasn't perfect.
I didn't do that though! You don't know how I voted. California went to Harris, what more do you want? She failed in several states: and it's her failure, not the voters.
You specifically may not have. But all the "oh but Harris isn't sufficiently pro Palestinian" voters in Michigan and the rest of the Mid West likely did.
Liberals complaining about Michigan seem to be made in a factory. Just cookie cutter opinions.
She can not force folks to use common sense…so she lost bc you and many just like you chose hate and cruelty….i see you friend! Your comments say more than you think.
I don’t believe anyone is perfect but clearly they believe the Pedo is. They’d hand their kids right on over for orange lipstick!🤦🏽♀️
And again 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Interesting that your anger targets the disillusioned voters and not the administration enabling genocide in realtime, good aim. And bitch I’m not American I don’t vote in your useless elections. You thinking voting blue no matter who is better..makes me sad for everyone’s future.
Yes. My anger targets the absolute children that threw away their Democracy because the Dem candidate wasn't perfect.
Except that didn't happen! Voter turnout is low in America by design: our representatives do not represent us.
FFS. Sure the Dems spent billions on voter turnout initiatives to keep voter turnout low. And yes Reps matter. If you had the Dems in control of Congress Trump wouldn't be riding roughshod over the constitution.
What democracy…? Kamala was not even primaried. And she doesn’t care for human rights, obviously. No one’s asking anyone to be perfect, just asking them to do something to stop the worst crime of all, GENOCIDE. But you go on and be bitter for how the voting turned out…like it even mattered
I'm done. You are a waste of my time.
Everyone’s, really.
There’s people in literal concentration camps who would not be there if enough people had voted the other way
You aren’t even American and know less than Americans (which is pretty bleak) about how our government works. So your commentary is useless.
Sure. Americans are known to be educated, reads a lot, knows much about the world and they’re also usually good in everything and score high on literacy and other things like maths and it’s also a very equal country for it’s citizens… yawn. Your supremacy ideology is showing
Fuck genocide across the world…CHILDREN ARE BEING/HAVE BEEN RAPED IN AMERICA BY THE PRESIDENT!!That is my concern.
Wow bitch?? 🤦🏽♀️ you got burned and have the hypocrisy to speak on anger?? #Projection MAGAt clearly! And if you’re not American what are you so angry about? 🤣🤣🤣 you need medication my love.
Interesting you have so much to say about and election you can’t even participate in. Your single issue rhetoric created the disillusioned voters you speak of. But fuck me, I guess, cuz Harris wouldn’t do what a foreigner wanted. Thank YOU, personally, for Trump. Bitch.
Genocide is a pretty important "single issue". It's disgusting that you dismiss it as such.
Oh, it’s important. But I’m American & had to consider more than just this. BOTH candidates failed to support ending genocide. Only one was vilified for it. The one who wouldn’t destroy the rest of our American values. The one who lost.
So yeah. Sorry I’m a bit bitter that this one issue ruined it for everyone. This one issue caused many voters to sit this election out, as they lost sight of everything else at stake. Maybe they were too naive to understand what they stood to lose. Maybe you’re one of them.
Israel DOES have the right to defend itself just like you do. But your logic is disturbing!
It certainly does not, officer.
Finally a thinking person!!👏🏼👏🏼💙🫶🏼 these ppl sound dumb as doorknobs!
Calling me an idiot dont make Kamalas record any less depressing..? I never said she had executive power, I said she was honest about her stance and that stance was passive acceptance of genocide, genocide but sad 😞 buuhuu
I suspect you may be one of the people that were captured by the $40 billion dollars Musk spent on buying a propaganda outfit that then generated misinformation regarding Harris. In addition there are all the radio stations that have been bought out by Sinclair, etc., and so on. Also there is ALEC
Yeah and clearly you flushed your vote away rather than voting for her.
Just some Euro trash that doesn't have to live with consequences of Trump winning.
As if trump isn’t the leader of the biggest empire the world ever seen…? Dave you should not use the word trash when describing anyone, not with that beard
So you are fine fine with what is currently running USA?
He's apparently perfectly chill with it.
Anyone who didn't vote for Kamala based on Gaza was an idiot. because why would you think Trump was going to help.
piss off
That’s the only way I off
Ok then you should stop it
How’d your protest vote go for the Palestinians? You serious with your bullshit or just a shill?
Being honest and doing what is right are not the same things.
Ignorant, fuck! What do you think Donald Trump is doing?
I mean she helped create the mess. Also a bit tone deaf to not admit to your own party's abject failures.
That’s why Democrats have to stop playing by the rules. We must fight fire with fire. We must save ourselves. No One Is Coming To Save Us!
Explain exactly what you mean.
Also heartbreaking that she (like many of us) hadn’t foreseen the capitulation of so many institutions. 💔 She would have been a wonderful president.
She is not like us,she had insider information and the ability to influence, we have neither.
Look, She was speaking. And she shunned progressive voters because she was afraid to stand up to Israel and follow Biden’s lead with no changes. Assuming you’re not as bad as the other guy is t good politics.
I found it the same. She’s an optimist, too. I guess that interview answered the question of whether or not she’s running in 2028.
She’s not wrong at all too much money involved
I saw some of it. I felt she was honest and forthright in he responses as disturbing as they were. I still cannot believe she lost fairly. Not against DT who had everything to lose by not winning.
I don’t believe she lost the election. I honestly think musk rigged it.
Trump admitted musk had something to do with voting machines in PA. On camera
Doesn't anyone remember her packed rallies? I was at the one in WI the day after she announced Walz as her running mate and there were 20,000 people in a cornfield supporting her at the beginning of her campaign and it only grew from there. Trump's rallies were a joke.
Every single one!!! Trumps were very over exaggerated!
He paid people to come to his. I still have one of the posts to prove it. He had to pay people to come to his parade. Elon needs to come clean if he wants to remain an American.
TBF, an acquaintance's son who goes to college in Pennsylvania asserted that he had been offered money to vote for Trump. Which is illegal, but so were Elon's openly declared cash awards, and look what happened when the PA govt tried to stop those. Vote buying is easier than hacking multiple states.
They did vote buying in 2016 & no one said anything. I was shocked they were openly doing it. I probably have the post in my Facebook history. That son should have written down the person's name & turned them in but if you're not used to that kind of crap, maybe not your first idea. 💙
I dunno about this. Why do that when there's no way to know who took the money but didn't vote for Trump? Seems like a pretty dumb strategy to get votes. I'd for sure take it and vote for Kamala. I'd have NO scruples at all doing it to these crooks, but are they really that dumb?
Why? Just because Trump literally said so?
And Musk! 💙
I am not into conspiracy theories but it’s impossible that she lost on ALL swings. Elon said it himself. And the cheater admitted. America is billionaire infested greed power house. We will never recover from this.
We the People know this... and have known this... for some time. So until WE figure out a way to change the system, it will remain broken.
Exactly. NOW WHAT?
I could tell you, but we'd both be likely to be visited by the new Gestapo.
SHE WON 💙 thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whi...
She shouldn't have conceded in like five minutes into the results, then.
she was absolutely right about it, too. we're about outta time, if we're to have any hope of stopping these assholes. I don't wanna live in The People's Republick of tRump Don-Jong !
Gut wrenching but no lies detected. Stay tuned. 😎
to be fair to 'the system', she specifically ran on a platform of... *checks notes... changing nothing.
But she said do not give up! Never give up. We the people have to use our power.
She’s right. The constitution failed. It relied too much on the good faith of those tasked with enforcing it. And we were always headed here if a Black man being elected President was going to result in Trump.
Cults usually don't carry on after their dear leader croaks, so it will be very interesting to watch what happens when that blood clot does its thing
She was one of the people that broke it. I’m tired of all these establishment democrats just raising money as businesses usual… and then going “whelp, can’t do nothing.” She took a billion fucking dollars, man. Not a day goes by where I’m not getting an email asking for more money.
Yup. I'm in my early/mid 50s. Lifelong Democrat. Very active via my union. Knocked doors and made phone calls in damn near every election--local, state, federal for 30 years. Democrats chose the donors almost every time. Base wanted something that conflicted with Donors' desires? Donors won. 1/2
NO the parties are not the same. But, we must confront they represent two wings of the oligarchy. WE have to build a new movement. Did I want Kamala to win? 1000%. Do I think she would have changed much? Nope. Obama didn't either. Clinton did free trade and welfare cuts. We need something new.
You’re totally leaving out Republican majorities in Congress that are your real problem. I’m glad she’s stepping away and letting Dems fend for themselves.
I think the big "break" that was a major blunder was under Obama early in his term. We had Congress. He had 70 popularity. He'd promised Hope and Change and it really didn't happen. It was the chance to chart a new course away from neo-liberalism and incrementalism.
No, we had way more Joe Manchin types and Blue Dog Dems. And Ted Kennedy passed. He truly never had super majority.
Also, you are conventionally forgetting the rot of racism in this country. A black man can’t change a 240+ years old system in a few years. Yes, he promised Hope and blockage but he’s not a king. Gosh, yall are wild with the selective memories.
I think he could have done more. I'm not blaming him as a person, it's the oligarchy at work. I believe he could have kept his movement going. He intentionally shut it down. But, it all really started with Clinton. Forced NAFTA through and neo-liberalism generally into the Democratic party.
I think the issue is, I'm 54 years old and basically have just been disappointed over and over again by the Democratic party--and I've heard all the excuses for decades now. I've volunteered in every election for 30 years too--local, state, federal. What's ONE big thing done? ACA? Compromise too.
Every right you have was won by the Democrats. The fact you have (had) clean air and clean water. Safe food. Healthy children. Education. That gay people can (could) live their lives. That civil rights exist (existed). That women have (had) birth control. That was democrats. All of it. Over.
Yes, I totally agree. I'm not abandoning the Democratic party, I want it to be better. All I've heard for 50 years is "move to the center" to win. It's failed. Miserably. We need THE PEOPLE to win for a change. That's what I want the Dems to embrace. OUR lives have to get better.
Yes!!
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She may have raised a billion, but Trump has already cost us Trillions. Hell, he’s taking a billion from the nuclear program to retro his fucking bribe, I mean jet.
All it takes to get back in everyone's good graces is to give ONE interview while promoting your book, apparently. Since when... the fuck... is Kamala fucking Harris an anti-establishment politician? Feel like I'm losing my mind.
It’s difficult to do something when many people were ok enabling the clearly worse option b/c they didn’t get the candidate of their choice though :/
Once it became abundantly clear there was only going to be Harris, an admittedly shitty vote like all the votes since 1776, then that was the only sane, moral, adult option. I feel nothing but total contempt for any dipshit who made any other choice. The consequences are here now.
Difficult to add anything to a perfect comment 👏
At least she's telling the truth. The fascists have seized a firm foothold again and the people in our government who SHOULD be stopping them are too cowardly to do so. At this point I'm just waiting for the Revolution to start. It's scary to be sure but it seems inevitable.
People keep saying that the Founding Fathers never expected someone like Donald Trump to successfully be brought in by a willing public... ... Yet the Second Amendment is right there for some reason...
they are cheaters
It's refreshing (if frightening) to see a Democrat who was so deeply in the system acknowledge that the system can no longer save us. Chuck Shumer and Hakeem Jeffries, take note.
Yes, & EVERY catastrophe she predicted would happen if he was elected, did happen. The only thing she said that she didn't foresee was the total capitulation of the Republican Party, including 100% of them allowing Trump to destroy democracy so that all 3 branches of government would serve just him.
The fix was in before her 170 days,it wasn’t only Musk, but Vought,Thiel who groomed Vance for many years to buy his election in Ohio and set him up for VP,and Palantir has been hiding behind the scenes..he confessed that so many times before the election at his rallies,MSM helped with the downfall
I feel, sadly, tragically, that you are right. And that it's been happening & is happening right now, in front of our eyes, and it's not being stopped... & even more tragically, so many (MAGA) don't even care & so many MSM have turned their backs for profit & out of fear. FOX has poisoned America.
Fox News destroyed our country with one lie after another spreading propaganda everyday,now 13 Fox employees are in the regime,WTH I’ve said for years that Fox should’ve been banned from military bases,federal buildings etc,this is why so many in the military are MAGA they fell for all the lies
Agree 100% And the worst part of Fox? They know. They know Trump is a liar, that he is ignorant, easily swayed by fortune or favor & will give up American democracy if there is a benefit in it for him personally. They push lies MAGA wants to hear. For ratings & for profit they will sink our country.
And the amazing thing is that 13 Fox host are now working for the felon at the WH
Well, they've passed Trump's cognitive test: Lie. Lack morals. Loyalty above country.
I think she meant more than just he RusPublicans but CBS, Law Firms, Media, etc... I mean, I hope so b/c after the two impeachment trials, the insurrection, classified docs, and so on she should have known the cowardly, lickspittle, sycophantic RusPublican party would capitulate, they already had.
Yes, she did say, "total capitulation", I took it to mean the MAGAts, but it makes sense that she also included the Universities, Law Firms, Media, etc. TOTAL capitulation. And it was, and continues to be, totally shocking and destructive to our democracy. (Also RusPublicans truly describes them.)
It felt like one of the most honest things I've heard a politician say in eons. Finally, an American politician stopped sounding like an Aaron Sorkin speech and stated the current truth.
She's right. Beginning to think our only option may be revolution a la France in 1789.
She didn’t say that last part - that trying to work within it won’t work but I imagine she’s bone tired. She wants to travel around and talk to people on her own schedule. I want someone to ask why she didn’t contest it though.
Her name is Harris. Give the woman the respect she deserves. Calling people by their first names was a big way donald disrespects them. donald. No caps. No last name.
Kamala Harris is her full name yes, there's nothing disrespectful about calling anybody by their name whether it's their first or last name
Now if she said she prefers to be called Ms. Harris then okay, otherwise you're making an issue out of nothing.
I agree. Being known by your first name, with no need to mention your surname, is a sign of someone who is highly regarded. People refer to Trump as Trump (when they're being polite), not Donald (maybe Donnie when being sarcastic).
is it weird that it felt good to me? To finally hear somebody say it.
Amen
She’s right! Acting like this administration is normal has already cost us. #TaxthebillionairesandreleasetheEpsteinfiles!!!
Unfortunately looking from the outside it seems that the US is more sexist and racist than we thought. And we had such hope.....
Whether it is the dems or Republicans America is run by oligarchs, who have built an economic system to suit themselves & to maintain their corrupt, unaccountable status quo
It's also kind of a relief that, for once, a politician wasn't pretending that voting is THE WAY.
I mean it was the way if this country was fucking stupid. Now it isnt
Hell nah she on Bell and Beat for AIPAC Bruh lol. She got paid to lose and uphold controlled opposition. Tell the Palestinians that Goofy.
id love to hear more. where can i read more
Within the system, you say? bsky.app/profile/kwul...
So what yall wana do because I’m ready to do SOMETHING
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Only because the rich own the press.
Yeah 👍 and I know another just like it.
Harris is a truth sayer. What a woman.
America is done; the experiment is well and truly over.
It's the United States Of America. Which America? North, Central or South? US obnoxiousness. You are United States citizens. Not American citizens. There's no passport for the continents. 😂
I spoke at both the DNC and the Harris Ellipse rally. I have also thought that the system is broken and now needs to be torn down completely before it is rebuilt as the rot is deep.
Also, because she is such a propaganda target for our idiot citizens, she would be ineffective and could possibly cause significant collateral damage. She's right.
It won’t work if you don’t try and it sure as hell won’t work if you have the solid upper hand and decide not to investigate quickly and prosecute those responsible! That “we can’t do it without tearing the country apart” bullshit doesn’t wash with these people!
Cannot express how devastated I feel!
Sadly I learned this in 2000, 2016 and 2024. The GOP has been stealing our democracy and ruining our country since before I could vote. I watched in disbelief in 2000 when Bush who was an idiot won after a recount in a state his Brother was running. The GOP has always been corrupt.
🥺😢😔
It’s also a clear acknowledgement from someone who’s been in the system for long enough to probably know that, in addition to being a signal that if the system won’t change by working from within, it needs changed by working from without
That makes me cry, daddy!
Well, that’s the gaslighting story that MAGA has been saying for years.
You could hear the air go out of the room when she said it. 🥺 #KamalaHarris #Colbert
There are people in your comments arguing with her. The American delusion is so great.....she spoke the truth.
Terrifying as well 💔
Really shows her quality. During the campaign she was often accused of speaking in bland generalities, but we see she can utter really hard truths.
Maybe, just maybe, she should have led with the hard truths last summer.
I don't think she understood this particular truth until November.
Sure, but the last month of the campaign abandoned "oh god these people will end the country, believe them when they tell you what they're going to do, plus they're led by a criminal, and they're fucking weird" narrative in favor of "look everybody, it's Beyoncé AND Bruce Springsteen, we got this!"
And you still haven't understood it. Never mind.
That and doing SOMETHING to break with Biden on Gaza could have well gotten her Michigan and Wisconsin.
so what are WE supposed to do, just live with a broken system? I didn't find it heartbreaking, I found it maddening that she just gives up. Fuck, FIGHT!!!!. But no, that'd require effort.
She tried to fight, played a bad hand as best she could, and still lost to a megalomaniacal serial sex offender. It says far more about the population of the US than it does about her. Also, you all have guns. Do something.
They can afford to give up, they got theirs.
“We fight, we fold.” And she’s surprised everyone capitulated so quickly? She set the tone for that when she conceded without so much as an audit.
THIS!!!! She folded so fast she made Al Gore look like George Patton
She says about 8 minutes in that it's up to the rest of us to fix this. youtu.be/BD8Nf09z_38?...
of course it is...why should she put any effort in. She certainly didn't put any effort into making Trump prove he won the election
That's right, feel that stove.
Viva la Revolucion!
Her official website, during the election cycle, said healthcare is a right, and then it proceeded to tell us how much we need to pay for this right. She is the fucking system.
It looks like she won the Dems knew it and let it happen
So true. This👇 might. have worked. And we need to reckon with the fact they didn’t even try. Not blaming her, she wasn’t calling the shots. Still… Now that window is pretty much closed as far as I can tell. But what do I know.😢💔
Its not closed it just requires the people to do the breaking. Hopefully more join those who are trying
She said it...the capitulation of Congressional Republicans is a huge contributing factor to the idiocy we are seeing now. There are ZERO checks on this bullshit...
This is on MAGA You Got What You Voted For The Pedophile To Destroy America She Warned Us So many Did I Will Never Claim Him As President
I watched that part and found it very raw... but honest... where does that lead? not sure, but she is probably asking the right questions
she’s right, we have to work outside the system. instead of expecting the government to feed our hungry neighbors, we have to do it. instead of expecting the police to keep us safe, we have to do it. and we need to start reclaiming some of the power in society from capital (worker co-ops are cool)
I personally dont want to keep begging any political party to listen to us. I’d rather help build systems apart from government that will do the things that need to get done in society. and once we start to realize we don’t need those in power anymore we start demanding lower taxes and more freedoms
It means the people need to be protagonists in reimagining society. It does not mean war. It just means we have to do the work. That starts with us letting go of incumbents in office and the way run elections, and the systems that do not function as we need. Build better ones, don't seek reform.
Committing violence against those seeking justice will happen, but discipline and a non-violent approach are neccessary. Anything else causes more harm to the marginalized. Do not expect or acquiesce to the idea of a war.
i m pretty sure that you guys gonna have to go through another Civil War.
We absolutely are. I said it five years ago and I'll keep saying it. Every hallmark of the beginnings of a civil war is present in the US. It's a when, not an if; by strictest argument it could be said that it's already begun.
How many democrat politicians have been murdered now?
Honestly I've not even been keeping track. 😞
It's already here. It's just kinda lazy and para-military: all the right wingers storming the Capitol or shooting up public areas or terrorizing public figures that speak out is incited through their rhetoric.
Aye. Exactly the reasons I say it's arguably already begun.
I dont want this to happen but its hard to imagine the countryever being fixed while there are still living republicans in office tbh
I feel you. I wish none of this had happened. Everyone's just gotta try to survive it. 🫂
Same. Now the goal is to organize until they are gone by any means necessary
People keep talking about organizing and I genuinely think that most Americans are not getting that there's no longer a way out of this without violence.
I’m curious how you see that playing out?
I'm not an expert, but my suspicion is that it will play out similarly to the former Soviet Union. Alternatively, I could also see it going the way of military coup, ultimately. The only other way fascism has been defeated is by international intervention and I don't see that happening for the US.
The problem is that it isn’t just fascism, it’s oligarchy. And destroying oligarchy requires destroying tremendous wealth, which usually means a lot of people get wiped out. If plague, war or state collapse doesn’t cause that, climate change probably will. It’s all grim.
I cant say if you'll be right or wrong but no that is not the only way fascism has been defeated in history
vive la révolution !!
I mean that still requires organizing... A general strike and massive shut down is still much more effective than violent methods if we'd actually do it! That's well known. I think it'll take violence but it can easily be done without it being widespread. Who knows if it will
How long would a general strike have to last to even put a dent in their bs? Violence. Strike. Banned book readings. Our children are going to really suffer.
Honestly? Not long at all. They fold like cheap suits constantly
I think about this every time a “devastating” poll comes out that shows Trump’s support still holding at 40%-ish. I really believe we are past the point of being able to reach a consensus now. I don’t think we ever had one. Just resilient cultural myths that have been pushed to the breaking point.
⚪ America - I hate to say it - broadly did have a consensus and while that played out sorta democratically for awhile, the US other people lived in - especially Black and Indigenous folk - lived in the same US that ⚪ Americans are now seeing. The end goal of racism/imperialism is always fascism.
Absolutely.
I doubt it will come to a civil war because too many people are being hurt by Chump's crazy economic policies and the realization that he is just part of the Epstein child molester universe they hate. The big danger is that he will break so much that it will take us at least 50 years to recover.
Manufactured
as you predicted, grandmaster.
I’m not predicting. I’m saying if one happens it was manufactured to. Completely unnecessary. The fix: www.reddit.com/r/TheUniverc...
The only way to avoid it now, is to essentially convince true-believer christians that the dems/devil isn't as bad as they think. Because the devil and democrats are literally the same thing to them now. They will make a deal with the devil before EVER trusting a dem.
If what you’re saying is true then that’s gonna take like 1-2 years of education
On the national level at least and to a great extent the state level.
Where can I watch it please? Who interviewed her? Was it today? Thanks a lot.
Colbert on the Late Show: youtu.be/BD8Nf09z_38?...
Way more Americans should be saying this openly. Not acknowledging it will make things worse. And worse. And worse.
Proud of her for saying it, though, bc it signals that even the establishment politicians r being forced to admit the system and all the mythology around American "exceptionism" has failed and needs radical changes.
She’s right. So, why is DC not occupied by millions of Americans refusing to leave until Trump/MAGA does? I know such action is difficult, uncertain of result, and dangerous. But something major, enduring, and unignorable needs to happen asap.
Millions protest regularly. But those millions aren't all in dc. I hope more join. I've been out there since it started and will be again.
America has been inflicted with the poison of greed and selfishness for years. The whole "fuck you I got mine" mentality has been the mantra of so many for so long. Getting to the top then pulling up the ladder has been the blueprint for decades. Until we learn to care about others its over.
System’s been broken for a while. It couldn’t keep up w/rapid tech change, which led to maga. I’m thankful we have one leader that’s accepted reality and will actually talk about. Maybe now we’ll form an ACTUAL resistance. Keep hammering the Epstein shit home and remind them which media lied abt it
Or just truth and integrity
It’s the honesty
Should have said that during the election though really...if she'd acknowledged that during she could have pulled far more of the vote, even tho I genuinely believe she did win and musk rigged it for the orange rapist turd!
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The system is NOT broken. The POS FOTUS is disobeying our laws daily with the blessing of a corruptly appointed SCOTUS 6 & a Koolaid drunken Congress & Senate.
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I found that shocking. Now what? I’m disgusted nearly every day. That guy just fired the BLS head for telling the truth about job numbers. Moved a sex offender to a low sec camp fed. They’re dismantling the EPA. We are so fucked. “But Harris went on the View and said nothing would change.”
You people abandoned her and now y'all are whining because she does not want to waste her life helping you. You do not deserve any help. TRUMP will look after y'all. LOLOL
Why would she ever admit that diving for the center doomed her campaign?
It just got real! Revolution is the endgame now.
We need a revolution
It was heartbreaking watching Harris on Colbert last night. It’s hard to have hope when the truth is staring us in the face. Our democracy is gone and the institutions that were supposed to protect us from a dictatorship have folded up and kissed his ass! The 3 branches are gone. No guardrails
Isn't that what we need, the truth?
Working with the system won’t, in fact, help us change the system. It will always be rigged to the wealthy and fascist, too many of our laws have been violated and ignored for decades. We need a new People’s start, to be free from this tyranny, no matter how messy. Viva la revolución, comrades.
We need a bloody coup to eliminate the maga-cabal & return democracy to we the ppl.
It's completely true. It's why Germany had to reinvent its government after hitler. We need to do the same. Start from the ground up. Our current laws have enabled this bad actor to destroy the the country's vision and ideals.
The time to work on it is right now, so we have something positive to work for. That man's days are numbered, and so is MAGA. Time to look ahead and create the government that prevents this in the future!✊️
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The only way to do that is to purge it of all RepubliKKKans.
The constitution actually encourages this. But nobody reads it.
Heartbreaking to watch.
It was heartbreaking, and she's correct, unfortunately. This country has been spiraling downward for at least 50 years, with some top Democrats as venal and corrupt as the majority of Republicans.
U.S. billionaires, who have increased from fewer than 20 in 1980 to around 2,000 today, control our government now, and stopping our nation's decline will necessitate stopping them.
That's why we need Zohran Mamdani to be the first of many left wing populists.
Even if she did win (which I was hoping for) there is too much money and power in industry for her to have fixed it. The American dream is a lie we tell ourselves to distract us from the truth.
It was no democratic system, it was capitalism. Now it's capitalfascism and will become technocrat-fascism. And if the world is unlucky this idiots will blast their shit before they finally die. But in any way the future will be tech surveillanced and led not by politicians. The US lost its country.
Yup and the foundations were laid 70 years ago.
Wow, thanks George Carlin.
I thought watching her on Colbert was very telling, with her background as a prosecutor AG Senator she knows it’s broken which made me wonder is that why she conceded so quickly, our country is in shambles and they would’ve done everything possible to destroy her,especially controlling the house&sen
Her point was she wanted to travel the Country listening to people without having to ask for their vote. Very noble.
Oh do shut up.
She doesn’t owe you anything.
She’s no saint, but it’s good of her to point out the obvious. At least she is willing to g to admit it. Most are actively trying to hide that fact or gaslight their constituents.
and she was shocked people basically laid down and took it 💔
The rule of law in this country died with the election of Trump and the collaboration of the entire Republican party and the Supreme Court. Quite a few Democrats are also complicit. They aren't going to let you fix this from inside now. Help isn't coming. We the people have to stop it.
The heartbreak for me is when America chose a known seditionist, felon over her as president. Because I knew he'd break us beyond repair. I just didn't think he'd do it so quickly. But, then again, he's gotten a lot of help from the maga majority in Congress and Supreme Court.
That's the real problem, right? The corruption of the GOP. We were dopey enough to elect a pervy felon — but the other side of the aisle has done NOTHING to hold him accountable — thereby saving the Republic. The entire GOP are traitors. No joke.
Democrats need to fight fire with fire to save democracy. It's time to squash the fascists. It's long overdue. They've been increasing in strength since the 1970s. They have to be controlled now. It's not going to be easy, and the people will need to quit jobs to rise up in protests.
It's been gone on too long. The fascists think nothing can stop them. They must be made to confronted with the truth. People hate them, and they have no right to control anyone. They have no right to steal, rape children, and put idiots in every level of government in order to control you.
@governor.ca.gov said that too
I guess we're all reaching our point of intolerance to the Trump regime and their b.s. Frogs in slow boiling water. Smart frogs jump out. Lol.
We know both parties have massively failed on every level. There are ways to fix this but it has to be kept simple, it has to be focused.
Not broken, it is stolen. Scorched earth is on its way.
What's 'heartbreaking' is that wasn't acknowledged before it was possible to fix things peaceably. Now shit is going to hit the fan and a whole lot of people will suffer for the negligence of politicians, their enablers, and SLEEPWALKING CITIZENS who are failing to safeguard their democracy
She is still in mourning of her defeat. Very sad. I think book might be too soon. (Ordered it anyway) she could have been a good Governor for us.
that part resonated with me as well bsky.app/profile/tara...
Sometimes taking a step back to look at the bigger picture gives better insight on how to tackle a situation I respect her decision & appreciate her honesty I hope she back in for the rebuild….i have faith there is a Reconstruction Era 2.0 in the making & we’ll do better this time
She was honest in warning us while she was running, and she’s being honest now.
It was tough love and exactly what needed to be said. I have even more respect for her for it. And if anyone reading this wants to chime in bashing her in any way whatsoever, just fuck right off. BS is full of self righteous keyboard losers looking for any opportunity to feel relevant.
The voting system is broken. She didn't lose. The data was changed in transit by Musk and Thiel. The NSA knows it but buried it and a whistleblower just came out and said he is willing to testify in front of congress that it was rigged. Also, a court case in Ny will prove it.
I hope he does and that he’s protected…
It's ridiculous that some people don't believe things were rigged. trump and his cronies basically have admitted it. The guy cheats at golf at the least and everything else on top of that. He cheats, he lies, he steals, he's never accountable. What's so hard to believe, people??
Trump said on camera that musk had something to don with the voting machines in PA
Ah, someone else who doesn't believe that her craptastic campaign and the electorate's prejudices could have had that outcome. Get out of here with that nonsense.
Not about belief. There is a lawsuit in a NY county to recount the county because not a single vote was cast for Harris according to the transmitted data. That is statistically impossible. Also, an NSA whistleblower said they did an audit and Trump lost. The report was buried. They want to testify
What county? I’d like to follow this
It's one small town in New York. "... focuses on five voting machines in Ramapo that allegedly registered zero votes for president while recording down-ballot selections on the same ballots. " Rockland County. Affected nothing, and sounds much more like a technical error than a vast conspiracy.
and the NSA whistleblower? Also, if there is a "technical error" in our voting, don't you think that is an issue and might be happening all over?
There wasn't a technical error bsky.app/profile/r5-t...
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Not sure where the quote is from but not a technical error. Known and expected voting patterns in Hasidic Jewish precincts that block vote. As they did in 2020 bsky.app/profile/r5-t...
Yeah sorry, I was not being real thorough. I think that's the Times of India for some reason. I just knew there were no BlueAnon shenanigans actually taking place.
The economic Times of India as well as the marijuana Herald republished a press release that the plaintiff, smart elections, paid to place in the AP News wire.
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Harris got 65,880 votes in Rockland County, NY
You’re way off on your claim. There were a handful of small precincts in Rockland County where Harris didn’t get any votes. The claim she got no votes at all in Rockland County is incorrect.
It's the truth tho.
It's true
She was telling the truth as heartbreaking and frightening as that is.
Truth
Voters need the power to have more elections. If a politician is not doing their job, new election. No more guaranteed term limits. No more lifetime appointments. Make them sign contracts with bench marks they must meet. Annual reviews.
Agreed. Recall elections should be standard for every elected position in the US, by ballot initiative. Also if neither candidate wins the popular vote, hold a new election. We could make this much cheaper with rank choice voting, which automatically holds a new election & tells you the result.
Every position that doesn't have a term limit, I'm looking at you Supreme Court Justice, needs one. An upper age limit should be established and I don't care how high it is. Start at 100 years old, gradually lower it, never raise it.
For real. No more Weekend at Bernies with these elderly politicians.
Not that this should be our primary concern, but it's disrespectful to make people work until they're 90 then croak on the Capitol steps. Yes, these buffoons want their power entrenched, but when we let them go home, they will be so relieved to lay down.
"Voters need the power to have more elections." Voters just need to vote, dude.
Voting more often and being compulsory would help. Make it a habit not just every 4 to 2 years where people just vote on vibes and lolz.
And no more letting them lie to get elected or confirmed and once there doing the opposite! If they do, they get booted! PERIOD ‼️‼️
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She can be a bit of a shill, but at least this time she’s right.
Never forget WHO broke the system. The Republicans saw how unpopular their policies were and that the only way they were going to keep the US from becoming more of a liberal society was to break the government. That is where the blame lies, which is why returning the favor is morally acceptable.
Okay, if we are forced to treat that as a wash at best with Trump, how's other stuff? Concentation camps in Florida doing okay?
none of them are innocent
Cool what is the alternative
solutionism is a rhetorical move people make in attempt to invalidate someone's criticism based on the notion that the critic does not, can not, or has not also provided a robust and thorough solution.
but to try & answer that question more directly (but still not very direct), bottom-up & top-down approaches simultaneously, informed by humanism, ethics, equality, mutual aid, community resources, minimized harm, trauma-informed everything.
We need every democrat to vote in 2026 elections to save our democracy. We the people have this one shot.
She still delivered it in such a diplomatic way. You know she’s feeling some things, mountains of disappointment…in US. 😟
She is right. I’m afraid we won’t get another chance.
IKR?😞
That's fine if that is truly her opinion. Just don't run for president in 28 and act like you've had an epiphany.
She’s right. I’m leaning into the fall of the crumbling and corrupt tower. It’s gonna suck. People are going to die. A lot of people. Then, hopefully, we build something better for ourselves.
Right there with you though I started the acceptance of the collapse back in October.
See you on the other side of it. 👍
Completely agree and it’s sad but true!
Or she recognizes that as much as she, or others, might want her back in politics to fix things, her presence would attract the kind of attention and actions which instead slows down or harms any rebuilding process. Knowing when to stay out of a situation is huge emotional intelligence.
Buttigieg and AOC
Them and everyone brave enough to do the work, including putting their name on a ballot. Putting it on one or two people creates a fragile cult of personality. Resilient structures are more like an iceberg: candidates/leaders are small visible part above water and rely on massive foundation below.
Bullshit. She's part of the reason it's broken. Apathetic politicians like Harris did nothing to protect our country. We need fewer people like her and more who will do whatever it takes to retake control of our federal government.
Maybe these Dems will get out of my mentions calling me crazy now?
...so, basically confirming what we already knew: none of them gives a flying fuck about the citizens and they will never even try to do anything about the current situation. Heartwarming, innit? 🙄
I used to have hope I voted for Kamala
Yeah. That was candid AF. Good to hear because it’s bracing but real.
Difficult road ahead if true, so quite a lot riding on the "probably" in that sentence. I suppose one may want pretty solid evidence our political system is irredeemably broken and incapable of being fixed by voters choosing appropriate candidates and working from the inside before agreeing that.
Definitely this. Dark and difficult days lie ahead of us all.
I don't think we're there yet because all the evidence I've seen suggests a great number of conservative voters like the system as it is, want a huge role for economic power, want government focused on the needs of the establishment elite, and want democracy weak, small, or preferably non-existent.
I'll agree the system is irredeemably broken when I see evidence majority of voters reject conservative, right wing, Republican anti-democracy ideology, market utopianism, bad economics in the conservative style, theocratism, bad religion, racism, and so on, but our government doesn't reflect that.
How do you not see what's happening now as not evidential? Not being contentious; my evaluation is subjective. Are we only taking how people vote as evidence?
Voting, yes. Because people can say all manner of nonsense when it doesn't really matter. They may lie their butts off when they post online, take a poll, talk. But when it comes to vote for alternative A or B, and they choose A, then yes, I take that as solid evidence they prefer A to B.
Out of 244 million people eligible to vote in 2024, nearly 90 million didn't bother. That's a 37% apathy rate. That should be all the evidence you need.
Yes, I accept non-voting, as I said, but it may show complacency, or apathy, or indifference, or laziness, or support for the status quo, or who knows what else. It’s not a signal in a positive sense, for something; merely in a negative sense.
To me respecting the vote is part of the democratic ethos. Ignoring the vote, and substituting what you suppose people really support, or accepting as evidence consequence-free comments they might have made in some poll or whatever, is not really supporting democracy.
We're in a situation right now where many right wingers suppose democracy doesn't work because "everyone" is right wing but politicians ignore them, and a certain sort of leftist who supposes democracy doesn't work because "everyone" is left wing but politicians ignore them. I think voting matters.
Got it. I'll curb my paranoia about election interference: propaganda on social media/in the media prior to the elections, the machines, or not processing mail-in ballots. But gerrymandering and voter suppression laws are also problematic.
Some questions. 1) Significantly different from other elections where you liked the results a bit better? 2) These shenanigans are legal or illegal? 3) If the shenanigans are legal, then they're being made by people the voters installed, so evidence voters reject them?
I think we have to watch for pulling this "our democracy is not perfect" argument out of the hat whenever we don't like the results of an election. Of course, it's not perfect. Never was. Likely never will be. Few things in this world are. But is it at the point we don't give it significance at all?
Because if we're saying it's gotten so bad we should just ignore it, then we're in a world of contempt for the law, for government, we should tell people do whatever they like, criminality, anarchy, that sort. I get there are utopian anarchists who anticipate a party, but I'd be a bit concerned.
She gave it her all and knew that'll never be enough in your actual election situation. Thank you, VP Harris, from a friend in your northern neighbor ❤️🇨🇦
It’s what we all suspect to be true, but it’s jarring to hear it confirmed.
I hope she is secretly working on a new type system to propose as an alternative to MAGA. If so, people best take it to heart this time.
I'm been feeling quite distressed since seeing @gregpalast documentary, Vigilantes Inc., that explains how Jim Crow 2.0 has been updated with AI voter suppression tactics. Then there's this Substack that describes how the voting machines had been manipulated: open.substack.com/pub/thiswill...
As George Carlin used to say if you have selfish ignorant citizens you're going to get selfish ignorant leaders.
Yes. "The System" may well be irreparably broken by the time the 2026 elections roll around, but it was not broken in 2024. It wasn't "The System" that failed the nation, it was millions and millions of our unengaged, uninvolved, dumbass fellow citizens.
We know one thing for certain- Chucky Cheese Schumer ain't doin squat to help anyone but himself and Hakeem is running a distant 3rd. We need new minds putting together the Big Plan not this patch work Bandaid junk
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It’s real
Admitting the system is broken is a good first step. Now focus on SPECIFICS and fix them!
Made me cry
I felt the same way.
There was no sugar coating.
At least they admit it.
A guy like Trump gets elected indicates clearly the system is broken. The make up of the members of Congress is no where near the Countrys citizens make up.☮️
Democrats attacking their own nominees because they've not genocidal enough is a clear indication the game is rigged
The real twister is the money in the system that has the power to severely distort. Big money = corruption, simples.
thats 6 graphs
I'm afraid to inform you that is in fact 8 graphs.
🤦 well, at least I was right about it not being 1 graph? I am going to lie to myself and pretend the image cut off at 6.
She ain't wrong!
The system was broken on purpose. The moment they allowed corporate interests in to effect government the game was over.Greed corrupts all levels.
100% agree. Since that decision the crumbling of the democracy has become irreversible
Fine. Just don’t think she would make it as a presidential candidate. She is a right leaning centrist. That shit won’t fly anymore.
The guy is a douche, he wants to share Palestinian accounts, but at the same time be all about the person that was all about the genocide.
How'd that work out for you?
I'm glad she was honest about it. So tired of denials and Polyannas on acid saying we're great, it's great and we're gonna "win." They need to acknowledge, as Kamala did- that it's broken and we still need to fight to fix it.
... "but please buy my book." I liked Kamala. I still do. She deserves to cash in. But the "I left the system but I haven't left the fight" bit is either a lie or an excuse and neither is good for the country. Let me be clear - she doesn't owe us anything - but she's clearly out of the fight.
Did you watch the interview? She literally said that she was still in the fight. She said that she plans to travel talking to people without the transactional relationship of asking for a vote.
Yes I did. It's a book tour. She's doing a book tour. She did her part and she's done. She's getting her bag. She deserves it. But let's not pretend it's something else.
I’m willing to give her grace for now. She went through a lot and although I also thought “book tour”, I also think it allowed her to reflect on what happened. Until I see how she handles the next couple of months as well as read the book, I’m not willing to pass judgment.
Imagine putting every fiber of ur being in a campaign only to lose to 🍊💩 & watch all u predicted come true. She has to reckon with the fact her campaign didn’t reach folks b4 putting herself in the line of fire. Listening to people is probably a good for her and more in line with who she is
Yes, to hear her say she wasn’t expecting the capitulation.
Her defeatist attitude is not what US needs right now.
I mean she's in the Democratic party and those ass holes worked against Bernie Sanders twice. Even the left isn't a huge fan of her when you leave the Blue Sky bubble, she isn't all that progressive overall outside of a few things here and there. Then the Dems screwed up hard during the election.
Don't know why you'd say that. In Canada many know our political system is broken and have been working hard to change it before we get our Trump. We missed suffering that by a whisker in the last federal election. More urgent than ever.
It breaks my heart that trump winning is the only reason canada didnt also join the stupidity club. Its terrifying how easy it is to convince people to destroy their own lives for literally no reason
Does nobody remember Obama? This is not genuine she's using what works
This from the lying trash heap who for years said unfit dementia was good to go and not a peep about epstein and clinton and his enabling knows more than ever says and lies wife. Camel is was and remains a pathetic JOKE.
I agree. I feel like I’m watching a terrible train wreck that nobody is stopping! I know we have the power to, but those who have the powers, who are elected (by us) are failing us miserably! It’s absolutely a dereliction of duty. They are disqualified to hold those positions! They NEED TO BE REMOVE
This is a Democracy. Voters hold the power. Voters fix things or fuck them up.
While your statement is true. She is stating an accurate statement that most people already know right now. Our system is broken and being eroded. Wake up and recognize what is occurring. The people in power are destroying our democracy from within. It will take time to repair but the fire is active
A revolution and a new constitution, if it ever happens, will be a world-changing event. That's why it may never happen. The stakes are too high for the elite.
Most people know this is true, if only she had the courage to say these things before the election. She might have had a shot. But these are the types of things you can't say as a candidate controlled by the corporate and donor class.
All we have at this point are Fench tactics. If people are being honest,
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Yeah that's a good point. Like other countries/cultures with history, white Americans have never had to experience revolutionary, survival based resistance before. The French know what's up.
I mean the black community has been screaming it from the rooftops for 100s of year as well.
Yep, for Black/Brown/Red/Asian people the shit show of today is nothing new. Always reminds me of this skit 🎯
Foolish me thought the initial shock of the Dems would’ve led to some awareness and curiosity to why a lot of POC and progressives were not as surprised. I was hoping for miracles on 2016’s and 2024’s election nights. It was demoralizing to experience the establishment’s conservative reactions.
They are not surprised. They know much more than any standard person, progressive or poc or anything else. These flaws gave reasons behind them that aren't ignorance unfortunately
Are you speaking about politicians? News? Dem pundits? I do think there’s awareness, but tho both parties regularly choose greed over progress, there are those who do buy the “conservatism is more popular” mindset instead of knowing what the median income of the US was while Wall Street thrived.
All of them. Im none of those and I've known for ages. They were never surprised.
I could believe that. The importance of this discussion, tho, is to point to the post election story of Dems and voters being surprised by the loss, and the conservative rhetoric that followed instead of reflecting on the pre-election critiques from the left. It’s worth it to remind people.
Then why did so many of them get fooled again and vote for Trump.
1. No ethnicity is a monolithic voting block 2. The groups I mentioned are violated by both political parties, causing some not to see a difference 3. There are knuckleheads everywhere
Which IMO is a big part of your problem-too much money in politics. Money bought your Supreme Court along with your Executive and, it seems your Senate/Congress. Your founding fathers probably never imagined what money in politics could do🙁
I assume you're Canadian by your avatar...do you think the US would be open to a parliamentary govt? Trump would have had 5 "no confidence" votes by now, relegated to back bencher.
The founding "fathers" may not have imagined such 💰 in politics, but they created a country by and for wealthy white males to rule which is what project 2025 seeks to return to. Those guys were racist, immoral settler colonizers who created ways to control people, perhaps just not with a donor class
True but sad that after America growing to be such a “do good” world power to be reverting to being a much reviled nation. I do hope that somehow the good in America can be salvaged
Also if you get another election you should return to paper ballots- I think they are a little harder to rig
We still vite with papers its the machine that reads/scans the paper and it seems some have messed with the results being communicated from those machines.
Still extremely insane that many were ok with enabling an objectively worse choice for everyone though :/
That's the sad part! As terrible a candidate as she was, we had one mission last election, just one!
Agreed - very sad that we couldn’t even do that :/
"Most people know this is true, if only she had the courage to say these things before the election" I'm sorry, did you somehow not know that your choices were Harris or Trump
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Yeah but that's not the biggest take from it. No, it's not "the system". bsky.app/profile/news...
Watching her say that last night left me gutted.
What could have been. But, then there's the electorate😶
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The system is working exactly as it was designed to. It's just that it's not designed to benefit the masses.
What she said was “Take these motherfuckers down and fix this shit.”
She used the word "capitulate" about our institutions and I stood up and applauded right here in my office.
Yea, pushing a person polling at 2% was very risky in this environment, but #clyburn did it anyway 🤷🏼♀️
I’m just glad she spoke truth.
You have to consider that based on our excitement for her she thought she would win. It crushed her and we have to be empathetic. Now coming out are stories that she did in fact win.
The system is fucked. The people need to rise up and drag these fuckers out of their ivory tower and do what angry mobs do.