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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

No, I'm looking for specific instances of fascists using gerrymandering. Should be pretty easy since you declared this to be fascist. My point is that you don't really know what fascism is other than it's something you don't like.

aug 23, 2025, 2:16 pm • 0 0

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jhfry.bsky.social @jhfry.bsky.social

Gerrymandering is not even possible most places in the world, it doesn't mean it's not fascist. Fascism is not an action, it's an ideology. Throwing a sandwich could be fascisim if done by a fascist with the intention of furthering fascism. Or it can be anti-fascist if thrown at an ICE agent.

aug 23, 2025, 2:27 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

So when Democrats gerrymander, that could be fascist.

aug 23, 2025, 2:33 pm • 0 0 • view
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jhfry.bsky.social @jhfry.bsky.social

Absolutely, if the Democrats were pushing a far right adgenda. More likely a Democrat would be doing it to help further a far left stalinist/communist objective. Most gerrymandering is not so severe. But done with the express intent to allow one man to consolidate power is definitely fascism.

aug 23, 2025, 3:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

So if it were done for Woodrow Wilson or FDR or LBJ to consolidate power, that would clearly be Democratic fascism.

aug 23, 2025, 3:06 pm • 0 0 • view
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jhfry.bsky.social @jhfry.bsky.social

Democratic fascism is oxymoronic. By definition, fascism is a far right ideology. That said, if the objective were to invest all state power in a single person, then it would be pushing an authoritarian socialist agenda like the Soviet Union, China, and Cuba. The political line is a circle.

aug 23, 2025, 3:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

Ah, so you think FDR and LBJ were more communist than fascist.

aug 23, 2025, 3:30 pm • 0 0 • view
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jhfry.bsky.social @jhfry.bsky.social

Yes. Being on the left, by definition means you are closer to communism than fascism. I have never seen any evidence that FDR or LBJ were authoritarians. And being closer to communism than fascism doesn't make you a communist. You're likely closer to communism than, say Stephen Miller.

aug 23, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

So, when FDR put Japanese Americans into internment camps, that wasn't authoritarian? When he presided over Jim Crow and was super popular with southern whites, that wasn't authoritarian? When FDR violated the constitution, that wasn't authoritarian? Did you skip history class?

aug 23, 2025, 4:12 pm • 0 0 • view
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jhfry.bsky.social @jhfry.bsky.social

And I'm still not sure why we are talking about presidents who are dead and gone when we have an authoritarian in the Whitehouse today. Are you suggesting that because we have had bad leftists in the past we should just let a fascist do his thing? We can't stop FDR, but we can stop Trump.

aug 23, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

News flash: Slavery was bad. Jim Crow was bad. Segregation was bad. We're still suffering from what those people inflicted on America. Pretending the past didn't happen or it wasn't that bad is not OK!

aug 23, 2025, 5:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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jhfry.bsky.social @jhfry.bsky.social

A executive (president) executing the laws that Congress passes is not authoritarian... it's representative democracy. If he superceded Congress, or they ceded power to him, and he opened internment camps via executive order it would absolutely be authoritarian.

aug 23, 2025, 4:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maru @maruschak.bsky.social

So you believe that if something is "legal" it's not authoritarian. 🙄

aug 23, 2025, 5:17 pm • 0 0 • view