It’s also true of South Korea, both are their cultures are so toxic that people actively choose not to extend it via reproduction. That’s pretty damn bad.
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That's not the reason you sound racist AF
aug 28, 2025, 1:22 am • 2 0 • view
"South Korean & Japanese culture which puts insane pressure on people to succeed in life and specifically in a corporate job where they are expected to put 10-12 hours a day in isn't the reason why birth rates are falling RACIST!!!!" Just shut up.
aug 28, 2025, 1:24 am • 7 0 • view
There's nothing particularly special about Japan and Korea. Literally every industrialized nation on earth has a fertility rate well below replacement. Japan has a higher fertility rate than both Spain and Italy!
aug 28, 2025, 2:23 am • 1 0 • view
Korea and Japan's demographic problems are worse because until recently they have been relatively unfriendly to immigration.
aug 28, 2025, 2:23 am • 0 0 • view
www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journal... The countries with especially low fertility rate continue to have it so due to the same factors, just in different amounts. No, there's nothing special about Korea or Japan. These issues exist in many places and are the same throughout. Korea is the most extreme
aug 28, 2025, 2:29 am • 0 0 • view
example of the issues while Japan has eased up in recent years. Both countries are also massively investing in incentives for parents, but still don't address the main causes that research has found.
aug 28, 2025, 2:29 am • 0 0 • view
Once women are better educated and have good employment the birth rates plummets.
aug 28, 2025, 2:13 am • 9 0 • view
Because if they do get married, they are expected to both have a job and be the care takers of everything at home. When men put in equal effort at home as well as work, birth rates go back up.
aug 28, 2025, 2:16 am • 17 0 • view
I’m not sure that is true, young women are not as invested in having children.
aug 28, 2025, 2:18 am • 2 0 • view
www.nber.org/papers/w33311 From the research I've seen, it shows that when there is more equitable distribution of childcare and household chores, fertility rates rise.
aug 28, 2025, 2:21 am • 12 1 • view
They may rise, but not enough for replacement levels from what I’ve read.
aug 28, 2025, 2:24 am • 0 0 • view
That's possible, but just because these are big factors doesn't mean they're the only factors. Cost of living, childcare, and so on also play roles as well.
aug 28, 2025, 2:30 am • 7 0 • view
That’s what I mean by young women not being invested, these are the facts of having children, the financial loss to women’s lives is huge, superannuation ect. As we see now with the amount of homeless women.
aug 28, 2025, 2:35 am • 1 0 • view
Excuse me. I lived in and married in Korea. The only culture I found toxic on Korea were the Americans.
aug 28, 2025, 12:51 pm • 2 0 • view
Scrolling and I see “Mike Honcho”…ha! Needed that chuckle my friend..
aug 28, 2025, 2:49 am • 1 0 • view
That's an interesting assertion; can you substantiate it objectively, and without an opinion?
aug 28, 2025, 1:22 am • 2 0 • view
Are you kidding me? There is hard data to suggest both countries will age out due to the lack of population replacement between both countries, there is no “assertion” about it. You can go pout and deny it if it makes you fell better about it I guess.
aug 28, 2025, 1:49 am • 5 0 • view
Nah this person is trying to paint it as racist to say that Korean and Japanese culture are the cause despite literally every study and all research done into it shows it's the culture as the Korean government can't even pay people to have kids.
aug 28, 2025, 1:51 am • 3 0 • view
I literally read up on this shit out of interest lol, it blows my mind that both countries, both of which have fairly good standards of living, have to beg the population to have kids. If that doesn’t scream how bad both cultures are to both parents and kids, then what will ultimately?
aug 28, 2025, 1:56 am • 5 0 • view
They LITERALLY cannot pay people to have kids. The Korean government has tried a ton of different incentive structures to boost fertility rates and none of it worked. The women in Korea themselves explain why and that it's the work culture, the expectations placed on them, and the fact they are
aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 11 1 • view
So it’s the household culture
aug 28, 2025, 1:26 pm • 0 0 • view
You can't separate workplace, household, and just culture. They all tie into eachother. There's major social expectations on women that women aren't happy with in Korea and so would rather focus on their own career instead of dealing with the negative issues.
aug 28, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Aren’t you agreeing with what the other guy said?
aug 28, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
treated like single parents in a marriage.
aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 10 0 • view
Good for them if that's the reason. Feeling like a single parent when married is not exclusive to Asian culture.
aug 28, 2025, 5:12 am • 2 0 • view
Yeah, nobody said it was. There's a lot of factors and these countries tend to have very conservative and traditional views of family roles.
aug 28, 2025, 11:29 am • 0 0 • view
That is your interpretation of the data. China is incentivizing birth rates now.
aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 0 0 • view
Because the one child policy failed and there’s a disproportionate male to female ratio that forced them to do that? Imagine that
aug 28, 2025, 2:06 am • 2 0 • view
I'm just trying to say that a declining population is world wide in 'first world countries' and picking off particular ones and claiming their 'toxic cultures' to be behind it is erroneous. (we had 3 kids for what it's worth, 2 of them when were very much on the bones of our bums)
aug 28, 2025, 2:14 am • 0 0 • view
'toxic cultures' Nothing racist there
aug 28, 2025, 1:57 am • 1 0 • view
If people are choosing not to have kids to extend it, then how is it not toxic? That’s the crux here.
aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 1 0 • view
To be clear, they are TRYING and FAILING. www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/chin... It always boils down to gender inequality and cost of living. It's always culture and social economics.
aug 28, 2025, 2:05 am • 0 0 • view
Posting this under you since they blocked me lol.
aug 28, 2025, 2:05 am • 0 0 • view
OK we should return to the days before free access to contraception when there were families of 5 - 10 kids? It's a world decline, and women are able to consider vocation over having 'One for mum, one for Dad, and one for the country' as one Australian Treasurer infamously suggested.
aug 28, 2025, 2:04 am • 0 0 • view
There's a recent Korean drama called Doctor Cha that dealt with the issues that wives and mothers experience in Korea and it was incredibly popular, likely because it resonated with so many people
aug 28, 2025, 3:10 pm • 3 1 • view
You should specify male patriarchy
aug 28, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
How many times can I like this?
sep 1, 2025, 12:53 am • 1 0 • view
As often as it needs to be said till they start actually listening to us instead of grinding us down
sep 1, 2025, 2:08 am • 0 0 • view
People around the world don't want to have kids because of the economic climate. What you're referring to isn't a "toxic culture" of Korean or Japanese people, but the crushing effects of late stage capitalism. It just got to Korea and Japan first.
aug 28, 2025, 12:40 pm • 1 0 • view