I know much of the discussion focuses on the massive implications Flamingo’s mass production has for the ongoing war. But let's not overlook the major consequences Ukraine’s acquisition of a mass-produced heavy deep strike weapon will have for the post-war deterrence architecture. 1/4
Well, for exactly this reason you don't apply serial numbers in series if you are concerned with letting the enemy know how many you have. We also don't know how many have been used already, it has likely been in service for some time if it is shown publicly.
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Well, you could start from 65368942 and continue from there 😉
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It's a little known fact that in the Ukrainian counting system 479 comes right after 1.
and followed by 1009
Vergeet nooit de Ukrainse gave om te verassen. Reeds ettelijke keren bewezen tijdens deze oorlog. De Kerch brug, de Moskva, de spiderdrones, de systematische uitschakeling Russische Generaals, enz, enz...
What if the west repurposed a manufacturing line and made 10K per month.
It’s not about building them . It’s about using them, to show Putin Ukraine can disable Russia anytime in the near future. Putin only acts on facts not on statistics or words … let’s give him one
Dumb question, but why does Ukraine already have nearly 500 of these rockets and have not used a single one? What's the point of hoarding them like a dragon? They should be used asap on high value targets deep in russia
It’s doubtful they have that many finished and ready. We don’t know what those numbers mean in context; it might be the Ukrainians trolling the russians to make them anxious, or maybe it’s completely unrelated.
The serial numbers start at 478.
Is een massa in één keer niet efficiënter dan bij mondjesmaat?🤔
We don't know how many they have or haven't used or how many were needed for testing or how many are in their arsenal. People shouldn't make any assumptions with such limited data.
Die Dinger werden giftig. Freue mich auf den ersten "test"
That is Ukraine’s strongest security guarantee. If it can field 3,000 to 5,000 of these (and similar) missiles, ready within 24 to 48 hours to destroy upward of 25% of Russia’s economic output, further Russian aggression becomes untenable. 2/4
That's 100 million USD in GDP destroyed per missile. How realistic is that?
Ukraines *own* weapons are more or less its only working security guarantee. Of course, they need not only carriers but some decent warheads. And Russia has no say at that. Or did we allow the WP to determine the arms stationed in Westgermany or Northkorea re Southkorea?
So be prepared for two things: 1) Russia will beat the nuclear drums to pressure Western states into forcing Ukraine to call off strikes on Russian industry. 3/4
2) Russia and its proxies in the West will insist that any peace deal must include Ukraine’s comprehensive disarmament in the missile domain (without of course having the same expectation for Russia). 4/4
That's why there will be no peace deal without a strong and victorious Ukraine. We, the Europeans have to decide now, on wich side we want to stand. The strong side for peace and democracy in Europe including Ukraine and hopefully one day even in Russia? Or on the weak side—unfree and dominated?
Ukraine will hopefully not make the same mistake twice: Surrendering their missile potential.
Russia's continuing aggression has awoken something in Ukraine that the Russians will regret for a very long time, I suspect. Ukraine won't be cowed into some toothless paper tiger agreement, not with these weapons on hand.
Everyone has learn the Budapest lesson. Ukraine won’t accept any proposals of disarmament. I believe it will be quite the opposite. The strongest security guarantee is strong Ukr army, missiles included.
They could sign a memorandum somewhere providing security guarantees in exchange for giving them up?
Like disarmament that happened earlier and enabled Russian invasion "...shipments included 575 Kh-55 subsonic missiles...along with 386 Kh-22 missiles" www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/... “Ukraine...was the weakest international actor of the three...under pressure from both sides to be ‘a good sport’”
This is why there is strong incentive for Ukraine to inflict maximum damage to RU before considering engaging in any settlement. That damage is also the only thing that will weaken the RU position. Both in perception & reality inside russia. The war will continue, regardless of the current theatre.
Well, in the end, not Europe is guaranteeing Ukraine's security, but Ukraine is guaranteeing Europe's security. 😊
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5000/48 hours. Keep dreaming.🤔
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The next time Russia carries out a sabotage attack on EU soil, Poland should give Ukraine permission to use its airspace to take out military targets in Kaliningrad using Flamingo.
I’d love to see thousands of these Flamingos flying into Ruzzia one special night.
Ukraine’s Independence Day is right around the corner! 👀 🤷♀️
Means nothing, probable just to psych out the Russians.
Even if half of that number sequences were failures or used in tests ( I have no idea, just supposing ) that's still a huge 200+ missiles ready to play "let's rearrange your factory" in Russia.
How hard do you think it is for an ex nuclear state with lots of reactors and some of the best nuclear fisicists to place a nuclear warhead in these. Do you think they are going to rely on a few papers that someone is coming to save them next time when this happens.
Very!!
We will see plenty of “Oreshnik“ mentions and angry rants from Medvedev.
Nobody really cares about Medvedev and his alcohol-induced rants. But there are still a few options: yet another test of Burevestnik (SSC-X-9 Skyfall) missile; or an actual test of a nuclear device