Dr. Dmitri Daskalakis, who resigned from the CDC says that RFKJr said he believes that Avian flu should be allowed to "burn through" the chickens and then children and others, so we can propagate a "stronger species". RFKJr believes in eugenics. RFKJr needs to resign or be fired.
Also: For a disease to modify a species genome, it must *kill* most individuals without the favorable alterations, or prevent them from reproducing. Some diseases can take tens of thousands of years for this. E.g., prehistoric coronavirus in Asia: www.someweekendreading.blog/really-long-...
In lieu of firing or resignation, let’s give him a direct and lengthy exposure to avian flu. By his own words, it’d be like doing him a favor, right?
This is completely against the mission of these agencies. What a sick fuck.
What do these fvcking fvcks think was going on before we developed life saving vaccines? The first 200-300 thousand years humans were around, without vaccines and modern medicine, and that didn’t make us immune from disease. I guess we just weren’t dying hard enough.
Looking at you Senator “doctor” Cassidy to protect this country from this madman, demand oversight and impeachment
He already tried to let it "burn through" himself, didn't he?
In stead of firing him - because that won't happen - could we introduce an even bigger, faster and more hungry worm to what's left of RFKjrs brain..?
these "herd immunity!!" people don't understand that means most of us die
Yes, they do. It's called "eugenics. "
MAGA will self extinct at this rate.
He should be brought before a tribunal.
How positively Rand-ian of him. Figures.
I wonder if Ayn Rand was into eugenics . . . She came to the US at the right time to get involved in the movement. Random bit of info: she got rejected from numerous publishers who cited her writing as atrocious. The publisher who finally accepted her . . . 1/2
. . . also said her writing was terrible. He published her first book because he said that the political message was "too important not to be published." I was never able to finish the one book of hers I started. I thought it was just me. It's not. She couldn't write. 2/2
RFK Jr is an erection disguised as a man
He isn’t even among the strongest in his species. Enough of this shit.
But he's rich, which STILL puts him up above the rest of us on the eugenics hierarchy of human value.
This is a direct threat to human, as clear and present a danger as if RFK Jr pointed a gun at your head. So, what happens if RFK Jr visits a stand your ground state?
Now of course, that question was rhetorical and designed to spark conversation. The real question isn't what happens in a "stand your ground" state it's this.... When will the media, public health institutions, and courts treat biology based violence the way they treat bullets? Oh wait....
murder by committee
I was told there would be no death panels.
no Democratic death panels, Republicans always wanted death panels.
Sarah Palin didn’t.
Sarah Palin had the IQ of breadcrumbs. She was never going to present any coherent policy.
We have to stop being afraid of hypotheticals. When Donald Trump cancels Kamala Harris' security detail, he does so because everyone knows there are crazy violent people who may cause her harm and he wants to flex his power to instill fear. There are people who WILL use violence to stop evil.
yeah trump wants Kamala dead and canceled her security with that intention
Inject that fool avian flu and he can show us all how it's done.
RFK Jr is a eugenics freak? This is my shocked face.
I'm sure Trump will get right on that.
That brain worm sure did a number on his gray matter. Holy F.
Here are 10 of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s medical theories that are based on eugenics. If you look through the dates, they start BEFORE the 2010 tapeworm incident. And, yes, the whole "vaccines cause Autism" anti-vaxx thing is about eugenics. www.rollingstone.com/culture/cult...
He was always a eugenicist.
What an asshoke
With a CFR of 30 - 60 % for H5N1 I don't think a death toll of 100 - 170 million people would go unnoticed, it would be total social collapse and the State would cease to exist pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
RFK and his 🦇💩 cronies are interfering in a bird flu issue at an ostrich farm in Canada, where the farmers are refusing a court order to cull the flock due to an avian flu infection. RFK & Dr Oz are trying the stay the cull and bring the flock to the US... wtf? Bunch of anti-vax nutjobs 🤪
He should put his money where his mouth is, the CDC have an extensive stockpile of infectious diseases and he could be helping us cure ebola or fatal familial insomnia right now
His cousin said publicly that he is a predator when she made her plea to the senate.
cc @balint.house.gov @sanders.senate.gov
A colleague and I just wrote about this a couple of months ago ... Might be time to update it... theconversation.com/uninformed-c...
Let’s inject RFK Jr. with the bird flu, and COVID, and smallpox - all the viruses and see if he’s strong enough to fight them all off. 🍿🍿🍿
Newest guidance from the CDC on illness prevention.
So did the Nazis.
That's terrible. Dr Demetre is a smart, highly trained man.
He's saving insurance companies a fortune.
Democide
Maybe set him on fire.
RFKJr is doing so much damage to the country he won't be fired. Trump appears to want his family at the "top" and no one else.
No one ever seems to ask him, "what if the species was made stronger by vaccinating them, and not having so many have to experience the death of their loved ones or themselves? Wouldn't it be worth trying that option?" Because any claim otherwise would clearly be recognized as that of a psychopath.
Or… put him in a coop full of diseased chickens.
Put him in a pen full of hungry pigs.
Please don't do that to the chickens or pigs, you might accidentally introduce more diseases to them.
He needs to the Avian flu!
Horrifying
Thank you for actually using the correct term.
This is horror movie level shit right there. 😳
So he’s literally a “Thanos was right” edgelord
He's getting pretty close to "I'll do it myself"
Sure doesn't understand the concept of mutation though.
He is implementing eugenics by ending vaccines.
We tried this. Smallpox, measles, mumps, and polio were around for centuries, and millions of people died who would’ve otherwise remained healthy if we had vaccines. They wiped out 90% of the Native American population in North and South America. And Kennedy wants to repeat this.
He survived roadkill and brainworms and thinks it's because he's tough, not rich&lucky.
Not even he is convinced he survived the brainworm. Remember, he tried to use his "limited intellect" due to it in order to decrease an alimony judgement during a divorce.
He did that because he is a world class scumbag on top of everything else.
Here is what I don't get. Their natural herd immunity goal is exactly what vaccines do but without all the additional deaths.
Or it would be, if herd immunity were possible with a pathogen that evolves quickly and permits reinfection.
Read the wikipedia page about Eugenics.
I think you misspelled face capital punishment
The man is disgrace. He would , given the opportunity, which he may yet get under this regime, gladly sanction Mengele style experiments on American Citizens... but only the Black, Brown, Yellow and Red ones. No one can doubt the RFK JR IS a racist, his father is next to Jesus and they are weeping
He's already doing that to those of us with mental health disorders. He's in charge of planning care for those detained under Trump's July 24th EO. Do you REALLY think anyone getting institutionalized under that EO is going to get REAL treatment?
It's amazing when you consider what happened to his own aunt, back in the dark ages when they had so little understanding of mental illness and how to treat it
Eugenics allows people to justify some truly horrible acts.
I read this and immediately thought of Mengele. Beyond words.
#Pro-DeathParty #GrandOldPartyOfDeath #LSDTakesAToll #SoDoBrainWorms
Yes he does
Who could have predicted that the Eugenicist is a Eugenicist? Perhaps the countless disabled people saying: “RFK Jr. is a Eugenicist” for a few … decades?
Link? Thanks.
This is horrifying! Of all the unqualified people in this cabinet, RFK Jr. is the most dangerous (and it's a very competitive category).
Dig through the ditches and burn through the chickens!
I think most Govts would like to practice eugenics because its so much cheaper than public health measures. Not all of them literally put it into practice.
This is what he said about measles. I strongly suspect he can't tell measles from chicken pox. bsky.app/profile/numb...
When my older brother got measles, my mother (former nurse) quarantined him in his room. None of the rest of us siblings were allowed to go in the room. We did not get measles.
Self-quarentines are fantastic!! I wish we could utilize them for more. Even the common cold!! Think of how much healthier we would be and how much faster we would recover!!
or barring that convinced to lick a test tube of live smallpox.
I feel like if it burned through just this cabinet we'd already be ahead as a species.
He also defunded mRNA vaccine programs, which is the only hope we have at producing bird flu vaccine at scale. Most vaccines are grown in chicken eggs, and we've already had to cull millions of laying hens. This is definitive insanity.
No, it's not - the bird flu is a worldwide epidemic, and there are other countries with chickens also doing research. Whether the EU or Chinese get there faster than the US would have remains to be seen, and how much they charge us for leftover products does as well.
I'm not sure what you were objecting to. It's Insanity that half a billion dollars of grants for mRNA vaccine development was just canceled. Nobel Laureate Katalin Karikó had to smuggle cash in her daughter's teddy bear to come to the US to do her groundbreaking work. We had been leaders.
Oh, of course it's appalling. But it may not be as much of a disaster for the world, or even the country, as the Trumpers would like.
So much research was being done here, and researchers, graduate students and equipment can't move as quickly as we need. H5N1, which has already moved just some humans, is nothing short of terrifying with 75-100% mortality in poultry. www.vet.cornell.edu/highly-patho....
“healthy ferrets in cages next to ferrets that were infected with different doses of the virus from the dairy worker…17% to 33% of ferrets in adjacent cages were infected by respiratory droplets… All directly infected ferrets died within 6 days” H5N1 WILL DECIMATE WHEN JUMPS H2H, AIRBORNE & NO ONE 😷
Read John M. Barry's "The Great Influenza". The early chapters are a good overview of epidemiology. Another book I can highly recommend is Dr Steffanie Strathdee's The Perfect Predator, about using bacteriophages to save her husband from a superbug. @superbug-slayer.bsky.social
Thank you for posting this. It's truly terrifying. The handful of us who keep up to date on vaccines and wear respirators may be the only survivors. I spent today at a hospital. My N95 was on all day, and I'm pretty sure I was the only person in the building wearing one.
And you’re smart to wear respirator in hospitals. I’ve been in and out of a few over the last year, even during cold&flu season w/ unmasked people in waiting rooms coughing & sneezing, people don’t even cover their mouth anymore😣 My N95 protected! Sorry you’re in hospital, glad you’re taking care😷
Oh, I'm perfectly fine. I'm serving as caregiver for my brother's oldest friend, who is dealing with Parkinson's. I spent all of 2023 shepherding my late wife through stage 4 small cell lung cancer, without either of us having a symptomatic case of covid.
I’m sorry to hear you’ve both gone thru such a challenging journey, and my condolences 🙏💜💜💜 On top of the Parkinson’s caregiving that’s so challenging on its own 💙 Hope you’re also taking just as great care of yourself by resting & recharging and avoiding caregiver burnout
Thank you. I couldn't save Vickie from cancer, but I could keep her as healthy as possible to make her final wishes come true…a concert by her favorite artist, singer Happy Rhodes, and an Alaskan cruise. Happy ran the GoFundMe to send us. I can't thank all of Vickie's family and friends enough.
Good on you! ✊😷 I N95 too so I’m prepared for H5N1. When experts are saying this pandemic is imminent, we should all be concerned & demanding vaccine prep. But like Covid, people don’t know. RFK has muzzled researchers, CDC, media. When you want the truth, look to insurance industry & economists!👇
“A new study reported by the CDC shows H5N1 bird flu has developed the ability to spread through the air. In other words, it’s officially airborne. …current administration canceled a $600 million contract with Moderna to develop an H5N1 vaccine” The public has no idea. H5N1 will be devastating. 😞
Oh Goody
Holy fucking shit!
Truly absurd times. Resist! ✊😷
Bird flu is worldwide and has decimated chicken populations in other countries as well.
Fortunately, other countries are vaccinating their chickens. Of course, the giant chicken companies that have caused US poultry farmers to have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world (double the general population) don't want to spend the money. www.ruralhealth.us/getmedia/98f...
Gold standard science.🙄 And he criticized the CDC for their approach to covid19.🙄 Very few would survive avian flu.
Believing in eugenics while not understanding that traits that make you resistant to one form of disease are irrelevant to anything else The stupidity of evil
He could have lived out his life quietly as just another Kennedy
He got involved in the anti-vaxx movement early on, supporting Wakefield, despite the early controversy surrounding his published article (he never had permission to use the names of the other authors nor did they agree with the conclusions).
Yeah, but he was just another crackpot then. Today he’s a crackpot with power
Excuse me? You think someone who has the ability to get published in both Salon and The Rolling Stone writing on a topic they have no actual background in has no real power? When people like you fail to take people like him seriously, that's how they wind up in the CDC!!!
You have a point
Resign or fired? I was hoping for something more permanent.
Daskalakis is out and talking.
The entire admin & the Heritage Foundation need to go. No peace, otherwise. The Constitutionally disqualified, illegitimate, corrupt, Russian asset, political thief, pedophile, criminal felon & his cronies & enablers all need to go now! #MAGATerrorists #StrongerTogether bsky.app/profile/tara...
you kids out there aren’t gonna believe this but there was a time in america when people trusted physicians and pharmacists not brainworm-addled trustafarian iv heroin addicts who’ve never stepped foot into a medical classroom
He needs to get Avian flu so we can get back to propagating better health science
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RFK Jr sucks. But just want to be clear, I can find no evidence that Dr. Daskalakis said this.
Freaks like RFK will never resign; power is a cudgel to either force their will or ward off accountability in their eyes. The only solution is to remove him.
RFK RFK HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY?
Can you link the source please
someone else linked this further up the post bsky.app/profile/mega...
A related but distinct claim from the one in the post. I would really like to source it if anyone can; it seems to spell out more explicitly what before relied on (very reasonable) inference
Or, if the source is you, can you provide context for where he said this
A good question. I found this tweet with an embedded video of Jen Psaki interviewing Dr. Daskalajis on "The Briefing" on MSNBC: x.com/Cathy2NotTod...
It wasn’t in his resignation letter, though he specifically cites a eugenics philosophy behind the new policies. (“Eugenics plays prominently in the rhetoric being generated”). It’s probably in one of the many interviews he’s had since his resignation.
It’s not in any interview that has been published online. A simple google search reveals this.
Most of those interviews are videos with no transcripts.
I believe it probably exists (seems quite plausible!) but I won’t repost it if I don’t see a source
His Aryan-white supremacy mind set is breathtaking. Trump’s bedside table reading material is all falling into place.
RFK Jr. needs to contact a new avian flu as one of the first to show his leadership and make him even stronger man 😲🤬
But that makes him the perfect fascist asset. If anything, he'll get promoted.
Impeac RFKJr. That’s an impeachment that might succeed and would save untold numbers of lives
His recent remark about how he could tell at a glance that so many kids were “mitochondrial challenged” was frightening to hear. Someone should ask him to provide more details because it sounds like some sort urban myth style medical diagnosis. Combine that with his belief in eugenics. 🚨🚨🚨😱
Counterpoint: they should not ask him to provide more details but should, instead, prevent him from saying anything ever again.
Absolutely spot on!!!
Avian flu doesn't "burn through" chickens, it kills the entire flock. Very few survive. I'd rather not lose all my chickens, I rather like them and they give me fantastic eggs. RFK is a menace, like Trump.
RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz have both said the bird flu-positive ostrich flock in B.C. (Canada) should be moved to the U.S., ostensibly for research purposes, not culled as directed by our food inspection agency here. Now, I'm even more alarmed about the real motives of Kennedy & Oz.
The elderly will go first, no one cares
The elderly AND disabled. Somehow, we're always left out or forgotten about . . . So many of us are going to die if we even make it that long. Changes to laws regarding detention for mental health disorders have a tendency to impact us.
Sorry I meant to specify the non-wealthy elderly.
He said that months ago. Public health advocates were out here screaming about it months ago that he wants to do "natural herd immunity" with poultry, cattle, wild geese, and farm workers. www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/h...
People seem to be confused about what eugenics entails. It's an ideology based in pseudoscience. chloehumbert.substack.com/p/eugenics-a...
Holy hell.
Sure, not like the survivors could have long-term consequences or anything.
Really, BlueSky…this is not a post that should be ❤️. Please give us an alternative!
The comparison to Mengele doesn't seem overblown.
Except Mengele was medically qualified and evil. RFK is clueless and evil.
Mengele was a quack whose pointlessly cruel research provided nothing of value apart from ways to torture people to death.
Nonono. This guy is who you want en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_...
It’s underestimated how incredibly exact this comparison is
I can’t even read his theories, my God it hurts my brain
It's easily summed up: 1. genetics is a capitalist lie 2. things that organisms learn are passed on to their offspring 3. something something something 4. Famine!
In another universe he could have just collected underpants for profit
Lysenko was a scientific genius compared to RFK Jr.
Aren't we all?
Ah, yes, the dipshit who thought you could strengthen wheat by bullying it and lied about it when it didn't work...
And thought if you put ALL the seeds in ONE hole they would work together, like good communists, for the good of the whole and produce much much more wheat. AND in winter. Seriously. This is not an exaggeration. He thought this. This is the most glaring "ideology over science" ever.
And it should be stressed to everyone: this is NOT a case of "they didn't know any better back then." THEY DID. EVERYONE DID. They KILLED the ones who pointed this out. They had a GREAT science sector before Lysenko, especially agro. Like RFK Jr he purposely broke it into bits.
And THIS is why I am saying this is the most pertinent comparison to RFK Jr. Because he did the same goddamn damage and for the same reasons(blind ideology over reason). Add eugenics perhaps, but that's only part of the whole.
Surprising that we don't know more about this monster.
Mengele was evil, but in relation to science he's more an example of a medical experimenter turned monster, combined with sadistic torturer. Absolutely a monster, but a different kind. He wasn't wiping out science, he was using it to harm.
...Lysenko was denying genes or genetics EVEN EXIST.
Yup, that’s the chap right here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenko...
Yup. RFK Jr. and Co. will be reined in within the next year. Lysenko was allowed to destroy Soviet *and Chinese* biological science for a quarter of a century.
Why do you believe it will be reigned in
As soon as trump dies or is pulled from office all their shit crumbles. They won't have the support to sustain whatever trump has managed to pull off
It's going to take decades to fix everything that's broken. Research and labs can't just stop, start, stop, start.
It took a while, but eventually Germany recovered from its era of folly. Maybe we can do it too!
Only because they lost a massive war, their country collapsed, and they had no choice. If Hitler had never declared war, he probably would have ruled till the 50s or so
Vice president Maybelline is bought and paid for. I hope you are right but I am concerned
Time for a memorial listen "A trust put in the government They told their lies as heaven-sent"
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Are you willing to sacrifice your child or grandchild to build a “stronger species“ ?
Who needs a stronger species of chicken?.. A rooster maybe! THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING MY VERY LAST NERVE! 🙄 😡
yes, but trump believes in "good genes", too, and congress won't do anything. and of course he won't resign.
Let's not forget that the senate confirmed this monster.
yeah, he's basically a Nazi
We are so fucked.
I've been saying for years that we're all just Livestock, to these would-be Masters. This group just says it out loud, though...
if that’s the case, they should be pro wind turbines, because what Trump believes about them would help this plan
He’s a dick. Who put him in charge of the human race? The brain worm? Fck off you waste of human cells.
So the opposite of herd immunity.
Literally culling the herd
Herd murder
Herdur
Hodor (weeps)
😳😭🤬
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The counter argument to this is that we're a mental species. We use our minds to express our strength through solving problems. Inventing medicine to treat diseases makes our species stronger. What he wants is cave man brute force.
Also ignoring the fact that even successful species can be & have been wiped out entirely by disease, no matter how “strong” they were. It’s the dumbest bro-science nonsense on the planet & these ppl think they’re actually smarter than the rest of us somehow?
RFKjr. plays dice. Why one person survives a deadly infectious disease while another does not is partially simple luck: which cells get infected, whether or not someone is coincidentally hydrated or not, dozens possibly hundred of random factors: but RFKjr. thinks he has certainty. Brownian motion!
Where did he say this? Trying to find it
Can we insure it "burns through" RFK Jr. first?
Also when climate change "burns through" the planet we can propagate a "stronger ecology" by getting rid of all those "endangered species" weaklings.
DonalRump really knows how to pick Cabinet and agency heads…incredibly incompetent, corrupt and cruel.
Let's let it burn through RFK's family first. How about that.
I would be totally ok with it if he died too
source for this?
The question is why isn’t Trump being asked every day why he keeps this guy on
RFKJr is a quack. He belongs in an asylum.
Retroactive abortion.
The Republican cult did this to us.
If we had an effective Congress, he could be compelled to testify. But we have the Congress we have. This knockoff Stephen King story sucks.
In normal times RFK would never have been confirmed. In normal times politicians try to protect their citizens, not let a crazed lunatic cause mass deaths.
This would sink any other government!
Trump's got a bunch of actual lunatics in his admin and half the voters just don't care.
So he's saying let the kids eat the eggs from diseased chickens and then...
Trump and RFK Jr didn’t just appear out of nowhere- they were voted into office by people who need to accept that actions have consequences
And we need to have a discussion about why so many people were genuinely blindsided by the extent of their malfeasance. We have an issue with the way information is simply blockaded by media outlets.
You'd think that an Irish-American would remember how the British failing to lift a finger and letting the Irish potato famine "burn through" Ireland's entire food supply did nothing to strengthen anybody.
1/5 Or sued for Negligence which is proven by fulfilling four key elements: Duty of care Breach of duty Causation Damages
2/5 Duty of care--an obligation to exercise the same level of reasonable care (standard care) that another person would exercise culling the human herd is not a standard medical practice
3/5 Breach of duty--he intends his actions to cause an injury illness to someone else
4/5 Causation--"cause in fact" and "but for cause" He will cause an uncontrolled burn--I'm sure no California governor would claim the trees would be stronger if we let a few fires burn through the glades. No housewould be built better as the result of fire.
5/5 Damages include medical care, lost wages, emotional turmoil, and more . . .we cannot forget death.
Why don’t we see what happens to Heroin Oldenleather after he spends a week living with infected chickens? He goes first and now. Right now.
Or House Dems should introduce articles of impeachment … force a vote, make them refer it to judiciary committee or table it …
Trump's 2nd term administration is gonna be a one stop Guinness book of Worse Holders of various offices. Let's hope the RFK brain worm finishes it's job soon.
Nah he needs to go to jail full stop.
So the first novel virus that arises he’ll be the first in line to get infected to test his genetic prowess - yes? Oooooor, will he just remain hidden in his ivory tower spitting on us as we die horrible and painful deaths? I cld not loathe him more.
WHY DOESN'T SOMEONE INFECT RFKJr WITH AVIAN FLU, LET'S SEE IF HE MAKES IT, NO TREATMENT ALLOWED, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT HE IS "MADE OF".
Killed. He needs to be killed. You dont go out, in public, in front of millions, and say "I hope to find you all dead" and just be. And he has done it MULTIPLE TIMES.
coukd we just give him bird flu, small pocks, or anything?
The nutjobs are quite numerous in this admin. 🤨🫣
Being a eugenicist isn't about being "crazy" or being a "nut job." It's about learned ideology. These individuals have been taught that they are superior and that there is a hierarchy of human value. This view is symbiotic with capitalism, with the rich holding higher value.
He definitely needs to be fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun.
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And this is Trumps choice to make decisions for Americans health??? This is reason enough right there to IMPEACH TRUMP and his whole fkn cabinet.
RFK Jr has lost his fkn mind.
*Euthanized
How about "fired... out of a cannon."
He needs to be "fired" alright. You know the one that involves a big cannon and the sun.
Let RFKjr get the bird flu FIRST!
Psychopathic. I'm not surprised though: being immunocompromised I've felt the rise in eugenics across the anglosphere
He absolutely is a second Lysenko
We don’t know exactly how virulent Avian flu will be once it starts spreading human to human, but 2 out of 3 cats that catch it die.
Or, you know, that thing we hoped for Trump today.
Kennedy said that in an interview earlier this year. Awful, but not a surprise.
.......or sectioned.
He has no medical or scientific background to make ANY OF THE CLAIMS the he spews. Get him the fuck out NOW. He is harming Americansand their children.
This is why James Bond is a super spy. He continually is placed in a jam and gets out of it, making him stronger & stronger. The principle is sound. #BondismIsReal
Can you cite your sources for these quotes, please? I agree he's a dangerous eugenicist, but let's hold ourselves to good science, citation, and info literacy. All I can find are RFK saying "rip through" (not burn) and assumptions he believes the latter, e.g., here: globalnews.ca/news/1109080...
www.scientificamerican.com/article/rfk-...
