“We should abandon people in rural areas and the south cause they voted for Trump” Wow I guess they should have just kept segregation too cause “they” voted for it or something. Fuck the minorities in those communities right! Idiot
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americans calling for collective punishment sure is an interesting choice considering all the things we do
aug 31, 2025, 2:05 am • 23 3 • view
Quick, trying to find a search engine that doesn't have A.I. built into it so I can look up where most black and poor people live
aug 31, 2025, 2:14 am • 10 0 • view
No, we uplift them, whether they like it or not.
aug 31, 2025, 7:27 pm • 0 0 • view
The rural poor are inconvenient because they continue to exist even during Democrat terms, which raises confusing questions they don't like to think about.
aug 31, 2025, 2:16 am • 98 4 • view
Dems aren’t without criticism, but they support rural & poor Americans through laws like the Farm Bill, Rural Electrification Act, community health centers, USDA rural programs, SNAP, Medicaid expansion & housing assistance. Some GOP say those are Socialism.
aug 31, 2025, 11:11 am • 0 0 • view
They support corporations through all of those programs. Any assistance that actual makes it through to people is purely incidental.
aug 31, 2025, 7:04 pm • 0 0 • view
What is an example of a policy in a Socialist-state that only helps rural poor & not “support corporations” AND doesn’t have a mixed-economy equivalent policy? If Socialism does the same or if mixed economies have equivalent (I’d say yes to both), then there is no real criticism.
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Working class people all around Appalachia used to be deep blue until Dems just up and abandoned them one day
aug 31, 2025, 2:28 am • 31 3 • view
You can tell when people have never been to/lived in a state where the government hates poor minorities only slightly more than poor white people because keeping that racial division makes racist white people feel better about themselves.
aug 31, 2025, 2:30 am • 9 1 • view
democrats abandon groups that are about to go hard right. no, don't think about it too hard, just accept that anyone they abandon is evil and must be shunned, and definitely don't think about who they're sizing up to abandon next...
aug 31, 2025, 3:56 am • 1 0 • view
clearly they're just prescient and know what the future holds!
aug 31, 2025, 3:56 am • 0 0 • view
Just move to my overpriced city 5head
aug 31, 2025, 2:07 am • 5 0 • view
answer: www.arcgis.com/home/item.ht...
aug 31, 2025, 3:18 am • 2 0 • view
on top of all your points, kids and felons couldn't vote, and not everyone voted for trump. so ??????????
aug 31, 2025, 2:07 am • 11 0 • view
"jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with this country both of these candidates are complete pieces of shit" has had landslide victories in every election since I've been able to vote.
aug 31, 2025, 4:01 am • 5 1 • view
3 million people live in Arkansas. Only about 260k voted for trump The rest of us deserve to have our hospitals shut down, I guess.
aug 31, 2025, 2:09 am • 28 1 • view
Over 3x that. But I don't agree with the rhetoric the original post posed either. But please get your numbers right for something easily verifiable.
aug 31, 2025, 2:17 am • 2 0 • view
Oh dang I misremembered and didn't bother to look up a number that didn't change my point in the slightest
aug 31, 2025, 2:20 am • 16 0 • view
It doesn't change the fact that the citizens deserve continued Healthcare. But it is disingenuous and weakens your credibility Based off registered voters in 2024, You claimed only 14% of people voted for Trump The actual number was over 42% thats a huge difference.
aug 31, 2025, 2:29 am • 0 0 • view
Oh no not my credibility on bluesky! I'll be ruined.
aug 31, 2025, 2:33 am • 11 0 • view
Your math is wrong too and is even easier to verify. 759,000÷3,088,000=0.245 Or ~25%
sep 1, 2025, 2:18 pm • 0 0 • view
sep 1, 2025, 4:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Because I did it based off registered voters. There's nothing a child could do to have effected this election. And there was 1,765,681 registered voters in 2024 in Arkansas
sep 1, 2025, 4:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Good thing children aren't affected by the material consequences of elections, then!
sep 1, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
If they can't affect the outcome they can't be counted towards those who do affect the outcome. Saying 750k out of 3mil voted for him is disingenuous. Cause 1.250mil was never going to vote to begin with.
sep 1, 2025, 10:11 pm • 0 0 • view
It's not disingenuous to say 750k out of 3 million people voted for trump, because that's exactly what happened. And it's relevant to remind people who like to say "they voted for this" that victims are very often kids who very obviously did not vote for this
sep 1, 2025, 10:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Who did the other 2.8 million vote for?
aug 31, 2025, 2:41 am • 0 0 • view
Well a bunch of them were under 18 at time...
aug 31, 2025, 2:46 am • 13 0 • view
Is everyone in Arkansas a condescending arrogant jerk or just you?
aug 31, 2025, 2:54 am • 0 0 • view
when you're this good, you're allowed to be arrogant
aug 31, 2025, 2:56 am • 15 0 • view
You're the one making a case for "soft" mass death in a state where your favored candidate didn't win
aug 31, 2025, 11:29 am • 0 0 • view
If someone is being a condescending jerk here it ain’t them.
aug 31, 2025, 4:10 am • 7 0 • view
How is it condescending, arrogant, or jerk behavior to…answer your question? YOU’RE the one being an arrogant, condescending jerk. Don’t pretend for one moment that’s not what you came here to do.
aug 31, 2025, 12:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Do you understand words or are you just used to sucking the donkey balls of the democratic party?
aug 31, 2025, 5:38 am • 4 0 • view
Lol, a rude label. 😂😂😂
aug 31, 2025, 9:31 am • 2 0 • view
nobody besides you was condescending or arrogant
aug 31, 2025, 10:19 am • 0 0 • view
Because I asked a question? If only about 200k voted for trump I was genuinely wondering who everyone else voted for. Like was there a lot of write ins, many sat out.., like wth happened there.
aug 31, 2025, 3:56 pm • 0 0 • view
if you'd honestly thought to yourself "huh, I wonder why such a low % voted for trump, how did the rest of the state vote?" and then looked it up, you'd have caught me making a mistake. 760k voted for trump. I got my numbers wrong Instead, you tried to get smug own on and stepped on a rake
aug 31, 2025, 4:22 pm • 0 0 • view
because you asked a leading question and then got mad at the person's response over basically nothing, something they didnt really do. if you think everyone you talk to is being an asshole, well, there's a thing they all have in common
aug 31, 2025, 4:00 pm • 0 0 • view
if i was gonna guess i'd say you came in like a shitlib with the intent to suggest that everyone in a state deserves to suffer for the right wing minority that gets all the representation, basically what the OP was suggesting was a stupid, wrong & actively cruel thought process
aug 31, 2025, 10:21 am • 1 0 • view
No. No one deserves to suffer but to say only 200,000ish people voted for trump, in a state trump won I wondered who the rest of the people could have voted for. But when you’re an asshole of course you assume everyone else is. Have a nice day.
aug 31, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
believing the demons of the rural south should run rampant as they please is the biggest sign that someone isn't serious about real justice.
aug 31, 2025, 2:18 am • 5 0 • view
“Demons?” I am a 65 year old socialist hippie fighting the good fight in Red Tennessee. GFY.
aug 31, 2025, 2:32 am • 5 0 • view
I’m saying the wellbeing of minorities in the south should not be thrown away because the gerrymandered white majority voted in a way I don’t like. Saying that everyone in rural states deserve what they get because of how some monsters voted isn’t real leftism and centrist Dems are wrongheaded.
aug 31, 2025, 2:42 am • 5 0 • view
Interesting the go-to is let people die and just not, y’know, rebalance the system so that they aren’t over represented, increase the number of house delegates, increase the Supreme Court, ban the filibuster, add a couple of states Almost like they want to be able to blame them for their own deaths
aug 31, 2025, 2:15 am • 3 0 • view
I asked someone advocating to cut red states off if they also cheered on the destruction of USAID... I'm assured that's very different...
aug 31, 2025, 3:01 am • 4 0 • view
It’s just proof these people fetishize direct democracy beyond belief. Guess what. Just cause the majority thinks something doesn’t mean it should be law and that the minority communities living there should be subjected to their tyranny. Grow up
aug 31, 2025, 2:05 am • 296 15 • view
almost like it's better having diverse voices as part of that discussion helps, and generating a consensus from localities that is then carried out by a vanguard that's accountable to the class whose will it's entrusted to carry out sorry, getting ahead of myself
aug 31, 2025, 2:08 am • 9 0 • view
Nowhere in the south has mass democratic participation. We had a sheriff's election here recently with about 35% turnout, and that was a historically high turnout. The governor was elected with 51% of the vote and 36% turnout.
aug 31, 2025, 2:36 am • 4 0 • view
So only 18.36% of the population elected that sheriff
aug 31, 2025, 3:25 pm • 0 0 • view
we dont have anything close to direct democracy anyway. most of those people in those states are subject to decades-long political-social-electoral-economic suppression
aug 31, 2025, 10:10 am • 1 0 • view
but liberals need South Carolina primaries to justify nominating the worst Democrat they can find so they have to pretend elections in the deep south & red states are fully representative
aug 31, 2025, 10:13 am • 1 0 • view
I hardly disagree that it's terrible what, eg, Texas does to its citizens. By what mandate do people outside Texas exercise authority over that duly elected government, and how would you propose preventing Texas from likewise imposing outside rule on states like Illinois?
aug 31, 2025, 2:27 am • 0 0 • view
No more states
aug 31, 2025, 3:17 am • 1 0 • view
Okay, cool. How do you propose we accomplish that?
aug 31, 2025, 3:24 am • 1 0 • view
buddy we had a war about how yeah actually the feds can go "people have rights, give them or else"
aug 31, 2025, 2:44 am • 7 0 • view
Sure, 160 years ago. And if your answer is another Civil War, okay, thank you. I'm hoping to learn about some clever ideas less violent than that one.
aug 31, 2025, 2:47 am • 0 0 • view
i mean a simple coup would probably be less violent than another american civil war, the bar is really high on that one
aug 31, 2025, 2:51 am • 2 0 • view
4.4 million people voted for Greg Abbott. I don't know that violently deposing him is going to end in a single night of violence, no matter how clever your methods of treason against the current government of Texas and its place within the constitutional order. They will probably take issue.
aug 31, 2025, 2:52 am • 0 0 • view
war's still worse lol
aug 31, 2025, 2:55 am • 2 0 • view
My point is I don't expect you will violently overthrow a local democratic majority without a war. You could no more occupy Texas than we occupied Afghanistan.
aug 31, 2025, 2:59 am • 0 0 • view
afghans are infinitely tougher than texans, most of rural texas would roll over like a beat dog after a week of not getting their treatos
aug 31, 2025, 3:14 am • 1 0 • view
americans are soft, you could take over texas in two months if you stopped shipping beer and ice cream into the state. and besides, that's why you build a revolutionary proletarian vangard, then the people organize themselves and do not tactly support the holdouts in the hills
aug 31, 2025, 3:04 am • 3 0 • view
Well, I won't stand in your way if you want to train a militia to firebomb that particular Walmart, but I'm going to hope we can find more peaceful alternatives while you rally the troops.
aug 31, 2025, 3:07 am • 0 0 • view
i'm not even saying we'd need a civil war, just that yeah actually the feds can make the states do shit if the dems ever learn to take and wield power
aug 31, 2025, 2:52 am • 2 0 • view
Correct, but there are limits to the breadth and depth of federal power. Escorting Ruby Bridges to school was the correct move, but the reason they took so many pictures was to make a point and establish a narrative. In truth, we can't afford to send a regiment, every time.
aug 31, 2025, 2:55 am • 0 0 • view
"160 years ago" what about desegregation was the 70s 160 years ago
aug 31, 2025, 3:08 am • 3 0 • view
I would not call the Civil Rights era a war, but if you are inclined to do so, feel free.
aug 31, 2025, 3:10 am • 0 0 • view
Less violent. Do you know what country you're talking to? Like holy shit. The stats we don't count... dwarf the stats we do, and the stats we do count still make the US the most violent country on the planet. Who are you kidding?
aug 31, 2025, 6:07 am • 8 0 • view
Does performative cynicism and despair make you feel better about your own inability to effect change? Or are you merely channeling resentment and insecurity as a resident of Canada? Either way, I will thank you not to treat the horrors of war as a foregone conclusion.
aug 31, 2025, 7:19 am • 0 0 • view
Just because YOU got defensive, doesn't mean I'm going to. Nice try though, points for effort.
aug 31, 2025, 2:46 pm • 4 0 • view
You're perfectly within your rights to remain as offensive as you like. I find your flippant, bloodthirsty disregard for my friends and neighbors quite offensive, so congratulations on your success.
aug 31, 2025, 5:25 pm • 0 0 • view
If reality is offensive, take it up with the culture that bore it.
aug 31, 2025, 5:28 pm • 4 0 • view
That is the entire topic of the conversation, yes, how to best handle the excesses of white nationalist state governments. Your contribution, "Why don't you all have a civil war about it," is as useful as a mass shooter's angry screed. You imagine yourself LESS violent?
aug 31, 2025, 5:33 pm • 0 0 • view
I personally think democratic centralism led by a communist party makes a lot of sense but I don’t think there is any perfect model or one that doesn’t result in some level of violence or authority being imposed, whether it’s the tyranny of the majority or otherwise
aug 31, 2025, 2:54 am • 13 0 • view
Yeah, that's about where I land. Inevitably, the last resort is the violence of one subculture suppressing another through military means. I expect there's a LOT of room for more creative solutions before we reach that point, but it requires both will and investment from leadership.
aug 31, 2025, 2:58 am • 2 0 • view
My father grew up in a town named Alva, which was a sundown town. A sign at the outskirts read, "Don't let the sun set on your black ass in Alva," and the federal government did not use troops or the threat of violence to take it down.
aug 31, 2025, 3:01 am • 1 0 • view
From what I remember of the story--and this may be inaccurate!--two things happened in succession. The United States ceased exporting flour to developing nations. Instead, we restricted exports of grain, for foreign processing. That shot half the town's economy straight to Hell.
aug 31, 2025, 3:03 am • 1 0 • view
Then, a lucrative government contract was offered to Northwestern Oklahoma State University, to train foreigners in the use of modern agricultural equipment and techniques. If they'd play host to actual Africans, they'd make a ton of money. That's when the sign came down.
aug 31, 2025, 3:04 am • 1 0 • view
(These visitors did not need to come to Oklahoma to learn how to drive a tractor or use new fertilizers, naturally, and what truly complicated science there was to learn in the Green Revolution could be learned from a textbook. They came to learn as a favor to the feds, in exchange for equipment.)
aug 31, 2025, 3:05 am • 1 0 • view
And that's how this one little town was desegregated, or, at least, took the first step towards desegregation. It was a matter of foreign fucking policy! I expect that any attempt to leverage central federal power over rural areas in 2028 or beyond will have to be at least half as clever.
aug 31, 2025, 3:06 am • 1 0 • view
imagine if the entire government was an HOA
aug 31, 2025, 2:24 am • 18 0 • view
Like if your dynasty was run by corrupt eunuchs and selfish Dowagers
aug 31, 2025, 2:28 am • 8 0 • view
This is all true but we shouldn't forget a big part of it is also that liberals *love* austerity and will jump at any chance to do more of it.
aug 31, 2025, 6:35 pm • 8 0 • view
liberals and fascists are limited at being at odds with each other by the fact they desire to do exceedingly similar things
aug 31, 2025, 6:38 pm • 5 0 • view
that is why you can't take politics seriously unless voters are educated on politics beyond just liberal v conservative and stuff like that. these people don't know any outcome other than the same ones over and over again
aug 31, 2025, 6:42 pm • 3 0 • view
Centrist red flag #1 these days is any reference to threatening or saving our “democracy”
sep 1, 2025, 4:53 am • 0 0 • view
It's like when you say Palestinians shouldn't be massacred and dumbass libs respond with "but gay people are mistreated in Palestine!" Ok so you're being an ally by saying they should be killed?
aug 31, 2025, 2:15 am • 54 2 • view
don't repeat zionist lies.
aug 31, 2025, 3:59 am • 0 0 • view
As we all know full well queer people are famously never mistreated in the yoo-esse-ayyyy
aug 31, 2025, 2:19 am • 31 1 • view
By their dumb metric all of America, Democrats and Trumpers alike, included should be ravaged to smithereens because they voted to continue genocide of Palestinians
aug 31, 2025, 2:13 am • 22 0 • view
*sees slave getting whipped but it's okay because it's a slave state* lol FAFO
aug 31, 2025, 2:06 am • 10 1 • view
american balkanization? in MY lifetime? it's more likely than you think!
aug 31, 2025, 2:06 am • 35 0 • view
The Three Kingdoms then Six Dynasties of Amerika
aug 31, 2025, 2:29 am • 15 0 • view
everyone advocating the soft-secession of blue states makes my Missouri-bound ass anxious as hell. i've got friends and family here, good people who don't deserve the rug being pulled out from under them.
aug 31, 2025, 3:08 am • 3 0 • view
We also deserve to be left behind and killed for not being sufficiently happy with being told we have to support blue republicans like Henry Cuellar and Amy McGrath over the red republicans. Only a conservative dem can win these states. They know by never allowing a progressive and still losing.
aug 31, 2025, 7:15 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s literally the same logic maga people use with blue areas and I think the should set off internal alarm bells for people (those alarms haven’t been inspected in years)
aug 31, 2025, 2:07 am • 12 0 • view
Some people are truly awful
aug 31, 2025, 2:46 am • 2 0 • view
keep posting like this, you're giving me more libs and blue MAGA to block
aug 31, 2025, 10:34 am • 2 0 • view
the liberal ethos in this country seems to boil down to "as long as my comfort maintains, everyone and everything else is expendable"
aug 31, 2025, 2:04 am • 26 5 • view
Chappell Roan said “There’s queer people in those states” and liberals said “FUCK DEM KIDS”
aug 31, 2025, 2:20 am • 22 0 • view
given how many prominent libs are on the flight logs, "fuck kids" seems to be a hobby of theirs in general.
aug 31, 2025, 4:00 am • 0 0 • view
she comes from my hometown, even attended high school with my older brother. couldn't be more proud of her.
aug 31, 2025, 3:06 am • 9 0 • view
Chappell is who I wish I was when I was 17.
aug 31, 2025, 2:29 pm • 2 0 • view
meanwhile Obama is still sending the next $4B annually to fund israel's genocide from his deal almost a decade ago "we don't have money for healthcare so rural people must die" my fucking ass www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/w...
aug 31, 2025, 3:02 am • 7 0 • view
That filthy fucking asshole's full of shit. www.stpete4peace.org/obama-fact-s...
aug 31, 2025, 8:38 am • 0 0 • view
A lot of liberals forget that there are lots of people who vote blue in red states, and lots who vote red in blue states. Lots of poor and minority folks and children in all states who don't deserve to suffer because of how the majority voted.
aug 31, 2025, 4:29 am • 7 3 • view
I realized recently that they frame it as if it’s rural areas, but really, it’s the suburbs. It’s the rich people from the city who don’t live in the city, and the rich small business owners from the country side who don’t like in the country side. It’s actually the wealthy suburbs.
aug 31, 2025, 4:43 am • 5 0 • view
Thomas Frank nailed it when he specified it's not just the top 1% that's the problem, it's the top 10-15% and the entire professional-managerial class that props it up that's the problem
aug 31, 2025, 10:31 am • 3 1 • view
Yes, exactly. That’s the real ruling class. Not just the 1,000 billionaires.
aug 31, 2025, 2:33 pm • 2 0 • view
I’m very much okay with abandoning the rich suburbanites and throwing them into the trash and under the bus or whatever they want to do to them. Let’s see if we can all agree on this version.
aug 31, 2025, 4:45 am • 3 0 • view
I'm for it. I'm from Ohio and in every election these people say the classist trope, "I'm not from Ohio, I'm from Cleveland" (spoiler they don't, they live in suburbs like Iron City or Lakewood or Parma).
aug 31, 2025, 10:33 am • 1 0 • view
Thank you! I live in horribly deep red Arkansas, where Trump got over 700k votes… but Harris got 396,905. That’s almost 400k people who voted for Harris even knowing she couldn’t possibly win this state. 400k people that some libs want to just abandon.
aug 31, 2025, 2:23 am • 17 1 • view