trump is first and foremost a vehicle for delusional extremists — most of whom are total mediocrities — to impose their ideologies on the country, with vought as a paradigmatic example
trump is first and foremost a vehicle for delusional extremists — most of whom are total mediocrities — to impose their ideologies on the country, with vought as a paradigmatic example
The more any person sees of Republicans the more obvious it becomes they are evil incarnate.
It’s not a business. Vought and his Project 2025 traitors will tell you that your life is a privilege granted by the potential for profit to them.
Vought is a damn fool. Wow!
Comrade Vought is LYING.
Now do "if they were a pedophile. . ."
I recall being revolted when the Taliban took over Afghanistan and destroyed ancient temples and other relics, for no larger purpose than to impose their backward vision. In Trump II I feel the same as they do just that.
Their examples are always taken out of context. NIH is a SERVICE, not a private company who must provide a return to shareholders. It's stupid to expect government to operate like a private company.
Did I just hear a WH official claim that the NIH, while under Trump's leadership, caused the pandemic?
1. They are NOT a company, so 'if they were' is irrelevant. 2. They were not responsible for the pandemic, but we all know who is responsible for a lot of American deaths. 3. The executive has NO right to withhold funds already appropriated by Congress. 4. We don't give a damn what Vought thinks.
The delusion that everything can be made to turn a profit is a sick way of thinking, but it's so deeply ingrained without the bedrock of our country. This goes back to gilded age, when they all thought of themselves as gods. This is what they want to return to and we are well on our way.
I can't believe the shit they are force feeding the public. Liars, cons, and criminals.
Such a liar in service to his ideology. He’s the one whose policies and budget cuts will allow the next pandemic.
YES - trump is in no way smart enough to do any of this mess by himself; he's the Trojan horse that the white supremacists, the Proj2025ers, the cryptotech billionaire bros, etc rode in on - & he's a perfect vehicle for them cos his psychopathology makes him so vulnerable to getting played
Most of these cranks got their start in the Bush White House
Don't compare our country to the stock market.
He is so deceitful and greedy.
OMG, this guy is as evil as Miller
Vought is a christofascist. This is fascist dictatorship cosplaying constitutionality. The Constitution was retroactively nullified July 1, 2024 by SCOTUS, simultaneously nullifying the federal government’s authority to govern, including taxation, dissolving the Union of states. #NQNQ247
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What is “DEI research” and why does Tapper never even think to ask about it?
“DEI research” from these guys could easily mean “research that considers demographics” You know, like you would expect basically all health research to do?
Research that included the difference between male and female wasn't taken into account until like the 1990s. They want to go back to the before time.
I think the problem was actually worse, research that was simply genderblind would be less good but still useful given a large enough sample, IIRC the problem was that study samples were very heavily men.
I worked as an RN on cancer drug clinical trials. The trial sponsors would definitely care about any response differences that might exist between gender/race/nationality/etc. Inclusion is important—all drugs don’t work the same for all people.
Tapper never even thinks to ask because he's paid specifically to never ask those kinds of questions. He's not a journalist, he's a tout who hosts infomercials.
I don’t know if Tappet was ever a decent journalist but he is no longer a journalist and rather a soldier for the darkness.
Right? In February I was led to believe dei was about hiring practices. Gonna need all media people to ask for definitions every fucking time.
Not the point of the post, but I’m eager for reactionary Democrats to eventually start saying “hey asshole DEI is good.”
whoa whoa buddy… we’re a big tent party. we need those white christian bigots to … i dunno, but we can’t make them mad(der) by supporting good things that help people. what would our base think?!
Stop yourself at the idea of Tapper thinking. He's a mass media TV "reporter". They don't think, they look thoughtful tug their chins and never ask a follow-up question
Thank you
Could easily be that “polymerase transcription” got flagged by AI as woke based on full text search
Any research on diseases that affect anyone else more than white men?
They just want to destroy the government. Any fake excuse will do.
I'm guessing Vought is referring to the NIMHD www.nih.gov/institutes-n...
Tapper isn’t really a journalist. He exists to comfort the comfortable and doesn’t want to jeopardize his career by confronting anyone in power.
Not sure going down that rabbit hole would have been productive in the moment. Remember that guy wants to talk about anything BUT what will hurt Americans.
We’re probably only five years from CRISPR cures for cancer.
Forget whether or not you think them wasteful; How are ANY of those research projects DEI?
Anything that focuses on women's health is DEI. Any disease which may affect minorities differently (think sickle cell anemia) is DEI.
Truth. But the examples he gave (dogs and cocaine, lizards blown off plants) have nothing to do with either of those.
Perhaps to him, women rank down there with dogs and lizards? Since the main point of all of the appointees is to make sure that poor, old, and minority people die, I guess it doesn't matter what the examples are.
Truth again. I guess I want folk to realize basically what you said. America First means killing off all non-white males and the women NOT subservient to them (AF asshats).
What would they say if they didn’t have D.E.I.???????
"If they were a company" is ONLY uttered by morons who simply do not understand how and why civil society and civic infrastructures work. If you're hearing that from a "public servant", then the public is fucked.
I mean, studying drugs and animals seems like pretty standard research.
That's right. And in that way, while Trump isn't really the worst of these guys, he is the singular lens that can focus their evil. Nobody else has the juice that would bring the Voughts of the world to power.
Did you ever see Vought smile?
NIH does not exist to make money.
I've looked up all kinds of things that the NIH has published and is publicly available.
Who writes the scripts for these guys?
I don't suppose Tapper had a follow up question that didn't somehow involve Biden?
Another thing to add to the post-Trump to-do list: 1. Every potential government employee must pass a test testing if they know how to verify facts and if they do in fact verify facts. Fundamental. (Actually implied in the Fifth Amendment back when I studied it.)
Lets start with “journalists”
DEI is the Neo-Jew for Neo-Nazis.
Follow up: What makes you qualified to determine which NIH research is “important” and deserves funding?
Narrator: Vought has no idea. He just wants a far-right regime that benefits only Christian nationalists and broligarchs.
What a 💩 Vought is 🤬 He’s arrogant and insulting. And BTW. What is DEI research. What utter BS. Americans deserve better than this. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬💩💩💩
why can't any of these people speak, goddamn. they all swallow words, mumble and stutter and trip over them jesus christ
But no company would do what the NIH does. Government does what private capital doesn’t.
He’s full of absolute shit
There are 27 Institutes and Centers within the NIH. One is the National Institute of Minority Health and Health Disparity. This is what he is calling DEI. It includes rural health discrepancies.
Make Vought nought. Vote.
Who was in the white house for the first 11 months of the pandemic?
And Tapper let him go on.
I'm a writer, and I can't even come up with the words to describe the excrement that exists where this guy's soul should be. I know he must be thoroughly heinous because his wife divorced him, and in his religious subculture, man, that is not allowed.
Pretty sure he's talking about things like research into sickle cell anemia and malaria with his "DEI" comment.
Oh, so he knows what is valuable research? Countless inventions, innovations, life-altering medicine came from obscure research- Studying cone snails, they have discovered compounds that ease pain and compounds that help combat epilepsy, diabetes, addiction, etc.
The danger is that he looks and sounds like a reasonable dude. He’s not. Sending him my darkest energy
When the war starts he’s at the top of my list.
DEI is used as an excuse, a cudgel, a way of expressing racism without fear of retaliation by the media, employers, and our government. I’ve met a few who don’t know what DEI stands for only that it’s said a lot and is negative.
An extension of the racially coded language ginned up by Reagan which allowed both parties to implement racist policies, almost always aimed at Blacks, under the guise of 'law and order', without any fear of being called out. Instead, they received enthusiastic support from the media.
The smartest response I heard in an interview from some head of DEI in the federal govt (I don’t remember her name or exact job title) was that DEI initiatives want the same thing as anti-DEI proponents- to put the most qualified people in all facets the govt.
Which bolsters the argument that anti DEI proponents are using it to promote their racist misogynistic ideologies.
Yep, just like they are calling anti-genocide anti-semitism.
Don’t forget to include misogyny in their DEI - greatly expands where they feel they can “justify” the use it as motivation.
“The USPS loses money” is another example of this false rhetorical trope. It’s a service, it’s right there in the name. It’s not supposed to be Trump’s cash cow, Russell. You deceitful nitwit.
I don’t know if you take suggestions, but I think it’s long past time someone breaks down the GOPs “if it were a corporation” ploy. It’s completely invalid on most occasions. It’s a semantic trick to put things in a negative light. The NIH is not a corporation, it’s a service US citizens want.
wut if da NIH was a corporation. deep thoughts
Gosh, he's ignorant.
Vought - scourge on humanity
Stupid got what stupid wanted. A stupid country steeped in stupid.
So it was always about DEI? Just look at him and you wonder why he feels so privileged.
Vought acts like he and those like him are the only people worth walking this earth. They're absolutely despicable. Worse even.
They look down on everyone not as healthy a them what you don’t own a Rolex and a Maserati ? You such a looser. What’s what they think about everyone having less money then them
Meant wealthy of course
Would love to hear him name this DEI research?
Health care was ruined when the MBAs stepped in!
Wow. "All right, that's all the time we have" was a mighty pushback, giving Vought's the last word on this nonsense.
This has actually been going on since maybe the late '80s: 5 minute segment with a highly-trained RW think tank comms person on one side of the split screen, and a hapless, nominal "Democrat" on the other side who gets his lunch money stolen by the devil. Then: "WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT tHERE!"
Nonsequitor strings of obfuscation as usual...
NASA wasn't a money-making endeavor either, but the discoveries made for that program literally have changed our world. The same is true for health research. It is a necessary expense to keep making discoveries that will benefit all people.
What an absolute ignorant disgraceful person.
Ok. All doubts allayed. Vought is insane.
Exactly right
They are too dim and narrowly focused to see everything they believe and all the examples they use exist in the context of a powerful state that insures, protects, and develops a workforce and technology for all of this to consistently function.
Wait... why is he making the rounds?? He is on Face the Nation now. Is this yet another "stop talking about Epstein" thing?
Jake Tapper is a platform for MAGA
“If they were a company…” Notice how he reduces everything to its supposed profitability. This is the core of neoliberalism.
So sick
“mediocrities” is right
How many rw buzzwords can you get into a word salad? That made no sense, not even in his own head
I didn’t know before but I guess this is what evil looks like.
Just wow. The government is NOT a company. It is not for profit the role is to protect and serve the interests of its citizens and WTF is DEI research? They have replaced "woke" with DEI but basically the same idea about excluding anyone other than straight white men from medical research.
A good demonstration of the fundamental misunderstanding from these bozos about the nature of science, research, and health care. These cannot and should not be run like traditional businesses. The laws of our nation (specifically EMTALA) prohibit it.
Vought DOES NOT UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT……THERE IS NO INDUSTRY OUT THERE WHO WILL UNDERTAKE THE RESEARCH NEEDED TO SOLVE CANCER OR CLIMATE CHANGE OR ALZHEIMERS…..CHILDHOOD CANCER OR ANY CHRONIC DISEASE……HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT NIH DOES
He does, because his daughter wa saved by cystic fibrosis treatment developed by the NIH.
Russell Vought is my nomination to take one for the team (from a 2A advocate).
He is just saying words.
I hate this man with the white-hot heat of a billion suns
Project 2025 seems very well thought through and Trump is facilitating it's enactment.
Director, I've served with mediocrities. I've known mediocrities. Mediocrities, at times, have looked back at me from the mirror. Director, you're no mediocrity - you're a certifiable loon.
It probably wouldn't hurt we on "the other side" to repost the pictures and videos every week of the trailers with the ad hoc morgues and the people banging pots for the medical workers every night at 7. I drove past those lit up trailers next to NYU Med Center on 1st AV every night. They were REAL
DEI research?
Not a thing!
Basically if you answer “yes” to the question: “does it help anyone other than white men?” It’s DEI to a conservative.
Cancer loves Jesus or whatever.
I really get tired of people who start their rationalization by saying, "If the government were a business ...". It's not and it's not supposed to be. Properly run, it should net exactly zero. At BEST, it should spend all that it takes in on the public good - not turn a profit.
More people need to learn the phrase "and if the queen had balls she'd be the king."
And that idiot Peter Navarro is another "paradigmatic example" of a delusional extremist. Geez!
I can’t even watch it interview psychopathic administration pushing lies
Vought is a leader of no one. Who does he think he is to dictate his values as the only values for the country. Put him on a disposal list.
extremist mediocrities is the core of the problem
I just noticed he's saying NIH caused the pandemic. What a nutjob.
I noticed too - what a low-life jerk - his maga cult eat up anything that will find someone specific to blame for the pandemic.
Because all they do is study woke dei and everyone knows that’s terrible
These guys make me want to scream vile expletives I don't even know. The greed, stupidity and ignorance is awful. All the people who are helped with cancer every day because of the amazing research of NIH - and other diseases too - but cancer research has done lightyear leaps due to NIH work. 🤬🤬🤬
That doesn't fit into the equation for these guys. If people can't get treatment or die, that's less drag on the profit system.
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Also it then good will that’s what they say to the family of those people then when their family members dies it was gods will and now they in heaven
After being hospitalized for covid, I participated in a study at the NIH hospital. I was impressed at the excellence of the facility, the medical staff, and the cutting edge equipment. I felt fortunate to be seen by “super doctors”. Vought is willfully trashing America’s crown jewel institutions.
The government shouldn't be run like a fortune 500 company. Just because it has some bloat doesn mean you slash and burn. A governments job should (ideally) be to provide services and protections for people. Rn we have a malicious government that attacks and only serves the capitalist class.
Omfg Woke and DEI excuse again. They need to made to be more specific. It’s all meaningless slop to execute their white nationalism. I’m already pissed and I just woke up. Woke 😄
The NIH "CAUSED the pandemic"?? These people have lost their GD minds & need to be held accountable for the shit they spew. I can't have a conversation w/ my mom bc she can't figure out what objective facts & reality are anymore. They've destroyed an undereducated generation. Anti-American C*nts.
I can't even put into words what a disgrace this guy is, being the architect of project 2025. He is truly the epitome of a horrible person & his ancestors are undoubtedly ashamed of what he is doing to our nation. An embarrassment for the history books, for sure. End rant! 🤣👍
He used a lot of MAGA buzz words in there. What he said is utter bullshit.
Vought hits 3 regime talking points in one MadLib sentence: “Regard all things governmental as a company” “Covid” “DEI” — The NIH is a massive engine of scientific discovery and development. This ignorant, destructive regime is endangering lives and crushing livelihoods.
Blah blah DEI blah blah MAGA propaganda blah blah contempt for America blah blah lies and more lies…
Lunatic.
That would be the DEI institute for women's health, right? That majority minority group?
One has to wonder if something missing from your frontal lobe is a requirement to belonging to the Heritage Foundation. 🤪
Their whole "merit" argument against DEI crumbles when one considers that some of us have the bare-minimum requirement of a high school diploma and STILL can't get our first job while our dropout relatives get hired almost immediately for JUST vaguely APPEARING to be cis straight white men.
"part of the humor of living on this backward planet is listening to the hominids rationalize their predations." ~ Robert Anton Wilson en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...
Is the DEI research in the room with us now?
The ONLY purpose he and his lackeys serve is a reminder: Don't be these nasty fuckers. Be human.
I continue to be amazed at how these people were ever successful in business with what appears to be a lack of critical thinking skills.
Serious question: Where did all these lunatics come from?
Heritage Foundation .
Why is there never the question, “are you nuts?”
White men intent on burning it all down to hurt black and brown people. It’s modern day slavery.
It feels a lot like attempting to impeach Vought and Miller regularly might pay dividends, if some House Reps felt so inclined.
Let’s just say it. These are some seriously racist people.
His answer is just pure nonsense too. Just throw as much shit against the wall to make the base froth at the mouth. The NIH is one of the greatest things about the US and these fucking weasels are destroying it.
Russell Vought is a singular traitor. He is using his Office to overturn the Constitution by using Donald Trump as a useful idiot who will sign any Executive Order put in front of him. Vought was witnessed writing well over a hundred Orders before Trump was even inaugurated, all of them P2025.
How did the NIH cause the pandemic?
his head would make a lovely canoe
he just articulated a great rationale for stripping govt provided healthcare from veterans. its not generating a profit.
Sickle Cell anemia studies are DEI according to these cretins.
Vought was one of the primary authors of Project 2025…..which Trump denied knowing anything about during the campaign.
That’s why these agencies and institutes are NOT for profit- they are for the public good not for investors. Are we going to get updated flu vaccines this fall?
same could be said for tapper, frankly
He’s a total incompetent. As are all the others picked
it’s just a collection of the countries most boring individuals who have no real education or desire to help humanity
“People” like Vought know the price of EVERYTHING and the value of NOTHING…
Tapper another one.
A criminal president running an illegal government staffed by incompetents
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ITS NOT AN EFFIN COMPANY!!
this guy is fucking insane posing as a serious person
The man is basically a religious extremist psycho with money and power. Heritage Foundation architect of the P2025 recipe to dismantle American democracy in favor of an autocratic theocracy and aimed at the biblical Armageddon End Times. And he is not alone in this administration and GOP Congress.
Lies keep getting bigger.
Wait what? They believe research only helps dei? So it’s not helpful to white middle aged men…..
Damn republicans always talk about government being run like a business. Government is a service. We pay taxes for these services.
If the government were run like a company the board of directors would fire the CEO for cutting revenue (taxes) just because some of the highest paying customers asked them to.
Given they use “DEI” as they do the N-Word, it’s always shocking when they say these things.
Tapper is a turncoat.
He is literally destroying the national government as a step towards theocracy. He wants to make of us a polity that would please Jesus if, indeed, Jesus believed exactly the way Vought does.
Call this evil fucker out main stream media
The country is NOT A F*CKIN COMPANY JACKASS
Jake Slapper says .....
I want to pull my hair out when these gas station brainiacs think comparing the government to a private business is all the excuse they need to cut critical funding. The government is not a business! It’s a service! And I have no hair left!
Tapper: say three things that are false. Vought: Tapper: okay moving on with absolutely zero pushback,
Why Jake Tapper not even asking follow up questions about what DEI research mean and what research the current NIH is allowed to fund? Sickening 🤮🤮🤮
Never knew “waste, fraud, and abuse” was one syllable
Koch-funded libertarian cabal: burn down the government.
14 Republicans say? That's the best Tapper can do? How about coming into the interview with specific facts regarding the devasting NIH cuts to critical projects? How about pointing out that the NIH did not, in fact, "cause" the pandemic through gain-of-function research (the anti-Fauci BS).
Moronic.
Christian Nationalist (& a Project 2025 author) Vought says NIH is ‘weaponized & wasteful against the American people’? That describes trump perfectly, yet he’s fine with him sticking around.
he's like the paradigmatic example of a guy who has never in his life held a real job. interesting that his parents had extremely real jobs (electrician and school teacher).
Government is not business. Wtf.
But it is a business under this administration. A losing business.
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Seriously, the doofuses currently running the country are like the boys you would try to stay away from in middle school bc they were so arrogantly dumb
Bingo. It’s the idiots around Trump who are the biggest problems right now.
Again, you are so kind, Jamelle. Most of them don't approach mediocrity; they are completely inept.
No kidding
illuminating give and take w/ typically crucial pushback from tapper...hahahaha. i'm kidding, of course.
And yet investment into the NIH is very profitable. Every dollar gives $2.5 dollars in economic return. But let’s not get these pesky facts in the way of a good propaganda. www.nih.gov/about-nih/im...
This endless obsession with stock price. As if it means anything real. and as if that is the sole yardstick by which to measure success. needs to be stopped.
Such BS
Anytime people like this start spouting off about science and medical research, the first thing to ask should be what is their educational background or experience working in science and medicine? How could they even understand what is being researched? Vought has no STEM background or training.
This is leaving aside his obvious bad faith strawman. It would be absurd to ask someone with only a science or medical background to pontificate on the meaning & acceptability of highly specific legal arguments & legislation. Yet lawyers like this guy are taken seriously waffling on about "science."
No good faith person ever uses the phrase DEI as a pejorative.
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"Let's check in with our next guest, Jared from Subway, to provide a balanced perspective on child pageants." - cnn
Vought: what we need is more research into internal terrains. Find out what makes people strong. Then we’ll have viruses on the run.
He’s. So. Stupid. And thinks we are, too.
Russ Vought couldn't win a student government election at Wheaton College.
Hey, Jake? Why do you appreciate him being there to spew that lunacy, bud?
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Dude, paradigmatic? If the Kennedy center is renamed after Melania, I’m blaming you!
Vought is pure evil - he is the worst of the worst
In his eyes probably the best was if they did no research in the pandemic and the USA just had fully ignored it don’t do any measurements to protect people just look and see who dies such an disgusting dude
Yup, a very dangerous crackpot.
Listening to these chucklefucks try to talk is revolting. We’ve elevated the absolutely least capable among us to run the country.
wtaf
Vought is a liar and he's evil.
Dismantling a crown jewel of medical research. So they and their cronies can sell snake oil.
Nutbar which, now that I think about it, is really an insult to tasty and nutritious nut bars
I've been a mediocrity for decades, so I can say these guys are much worse.
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Why talk to this person ever? He said he wants fed employees to not just lose their job but to also have additional suffering? Bc getting a federal job is what? Evil? This is insanity and we need to out him everytime he shows up anywhere.
Because CNN's ownership benefits from Trump/GOP policies, and they wish to promote those policies. Tapper is merely a tout who hosts infomercials.
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Their only response to valid questions about strangling the government funding of research, any social support program or action to increase equality in opportunity and development is to scream DEI …..responsible journalism would insist they specify and show proof of their allegations.
As I see it, it all comes down to: "if I don't understand it, it can't be true".
The fact that CNN even gives these fascists air time at all, makes me sick
Trump is the autopen for Stephen Miller and Russel Vought
Every executive order and policy paper cites "the director of OMB" as the person executing this policy, so this leads to to believe that vought is the actual president
Why do all of these dorks keep on trying to compare the govt to a business? I mean most basically they are ALL shitty at running businesses. All of them have failed miserably and are only rich because the government propped them up.
None of them can think beyond making money hence everything run like a business - making money is the ultimate God, not what you spend it on but having more than others. Any service is suspect and to be eliminated. How could something just exist to help people? It makes no sense to the greedy?
Yes it’s basically a giant dick measuring contest for them who got more it’s like what Rappers Rap about 24/7 for them Money, Cars and Bitches that all what counts and of course having big mansions, private jets expensive clothes and shoes
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Exactly! We wouldn't have the internet, cell phones, lots of other technologies and medical advances without the govt. They don't understand the concept of The Greater Good. If it doesn't line their pockets, then it's a waste.
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Exactly healthcare cannot be looked at as a business. Education cannot be looked at like a business. They need to have budgets and pay people but that’s where it ends.
because enough time has passed that people don't realize it's a rerun www.goodreads.com/en/book/show...
It’s not a fucking company get it through your thick head! Dumb fuckstick
This admin is essentially a make-work program for guys who got laughed at in high school.
Or were so insidiously creepy, their classmates just gave them the side-eye and quickened their pace.
This 👆👆👆
It’s much much worse than that imo.
Love the use of ‘mediocrities’. Without tRump, we would have never heard of these clowns.
But the NIH is not a “company” or business, & is not supposed to be a company satisfying stockholders by engineering unsustainable profits, quarter after quarter. Such a disingenuous, irrelevant response from Vought. Get these dolts out of DC!