There can’t be any gun restrictions because we have to protect against federal government tyranny, and if kids get shot we just have to live with it. Also the President can send troops to cities because the federal government can do whatever it wants. These two ideas are consistent and reasonable.
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Dude. Gun restrictions are fine, and don't stop us from legally getting guns. I know from first hand experience, and am ready to fight back against government tyranny. Legally, after passing tests, and waiting periods. You don't know what you are talking about. Pull your head out.
Send *armed* federal troops
What Trump is doing is not tyranny to the NRA crowd….it is EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. They are all for this. They are waiting for the Democratic response….they will show up against it.
GUN FANS: We must have guns to defend against Tyranny! TYRANNY: 'sup, dudes? GUN FANS: Oh, hey, Tyranny, we were just talking about you. Need a hand with anything? We've got guns.
And, when the tyranny arrives, the gun nuts either sit home and do nothing, or sign up to be a g-man thug themselves. Either way, the guns are useless, and regulating them holds only upside for society, no down.
It's not tyranny if the gun nuts are in control.
The gun nuts joined in on Jan 6 and happily support ICE (i.e. same Klan, different masks)
Great news that we can now apparently finally ban guns and send a bunch of masked roided up bigots with micropenises and untreated psychotic agression to collect them all.
Everyone will be thrilled.
What about you fanatics form autonomous groups and have fun with one another, leaving the others to enjoy their lives?
He is the President and he can do what he wants. I blame Congress for inaction .We aren’t going away
We hold these truths to be despicable?
Where are the non white people with guns? The white people with guns seem to have zero concept of „protect against tyranny“
Anyone believing their possession of small arms will enable them to “fight” against government entities is either delusional or relying on a disingenuous argument to justify supporting an industry that has brainwashed them.
live in a neighborhood in a blue dot city in a red state & ppl said they wouldn’t advertise their support for any dem as they felt they couldn’t trust their neighbors if trump won, that it would be going after neighbors, Mon night on hannity dead eyes miller called dems a domestic terrorist org
💯 percent the latter. Fueled by made up grievances and fantasies of oppression.
When the military is actively going after large amounts of Americans like this, I'd hope you be more willing to at least attempt to shoot back at them. Otherwise you're harmless and might as well just walk out in the street and give up. No one is telling you to become 1 man army.
Honestly, I would love to see a standoff between gun nuts and the best funded military in the world. Could go either way…
Vietcong would like a word.
And the Mujahideen
Did you forget only the most recent example of 2001-2021 in Afghanistan? Asymmetric warfare is a useful tactic to face an opponent who is better equipped. Air power can't hold territory and no army is having a good time taking a remotely hostile city, eg: Fallujah or Ramadi. Firepower != Victory
Well, only an idiot thinks any gun will help against an opponent with an air force, but not only did none of us ever buy that, neither did they. It was always bullshit.
Sigh. #EndGunViolence
Then rather specifically CIS hetero White liberal MEN should grow a fucking spine, get a gun, and do something about all the fascism because the rest of us marginalized people aren't able to specifically because of what happened today and the backlash that it's absolutely going to cause to us...
I have always believed that it's more about collecting guns than actually doing anything with them. Collectors of all sorts say a lot of shit to their loved ones in order to justify obscene purchases, like claiming 2A. If it wasn't guns it would be porcelain figurines, of guns.
100 percent
You’re out of your soulless mind. You 2A folks can get fucked.
I think maybe you misunderstood the tone of my post.
You be reasonable. The second amendment wasn't important enough to be added the first time around. It also is clearly about not having the British government take their guns.
Someone should notify all of those “Don’t Tread On Me” cosplayers that they are being Tread upon.
Oh, *they* don't think they are. They think they are being invited to join the Gestapo, and they're positively giddy. Wait until they're poor and discarded!
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When we clean up this mess, the NRA will finally be sued out of existence and all the little-🍄 2A nuts will be publicly humiliated. Big gun, small 🍄!
2a nuts are all cowards, deep down. Rather than fight tyranny they'd rather shoot up schools and churches where no one fights back.
to fucking late we are not protecting when we have armed soldiers in our streets and in our capitol and the biggest protector of the 2nd amendment is silent we are to LATE
Bring back the ban on automatic weapons. We did it before and can do it again. No one needs an assault rifle to hunt, unless it is for humans. Hunting humans is illegal except in war.
"We couldn't have prevented this tragedy", says the ONLY country in the world where this happens regularly. Who cares if Iran or North Korea get nukes? Nukes don't kill people; PEOPLE kill people. ... see how fucking stupid that sounds? Demand #GunControl legislation!
...and if you burn the flag you get a year in prison, but you can tear it down and replace it with a Trump flag in the course of tyranny and you get a pardon.
you can also slap his face on it, no problem
Because I am pedantic, I must remind everybody that the supreme Court decided that burning a flag was part of your first amendment rights to freedom of expression. Now, the treasonweasel has said he wants them to reitigate that...
Relitigate
Love your comment—now the word reitigate has become rightigate in my head. Apt, I think.
Reasonable.
You can BEAT COPS with it, somehow that's not disrespecting the flag.
I'm doing the quote "Conservatism consists of a single proposition, to wit: there must be in-groups protected by the law but not bound by it alongside out-groups bound by the law but not protected by it."
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” -Frank Wilhoit
It's only tyranny if the govenment wants to help poor people with things like health care or free education or not being torn apart by bullets.
“Wow… reading this makes my head spin 🤯 How can two extremes be considered consistent?”
All the militias are tied up at the battle of Cracker Barrel waiting for reinforcement.
they actually are internally consistent. the philosophy is: "republicans can do as they please."
The police need guns to outmatch the private owners The police are the private owners
At least nobody ever has to listen to gun nuts say that again without being fully entitled to laugh in their faces
I don’t think anyone is dumb enough to stand up to the against the government with the weapon. So that’s kind of a weak argument.
What IF we took ALL the guns away from legal owners. Who will then have the guns? Spoiler for ya…ALL the criminals you dumb fuck!
Mental-trans-re1ardation. You all goofies advocate for this.
Dead kids are just the inevitable collateral damage we need to accept to keep Republican fascist gun fetishists happy and secure. Got it.
I certainly hope this is sarcasm!
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All the second amendment humpers all seem pretty cool with a military occupation by the government — the ONE fucking thing that amendment was actually for. To FIGHT that.
It wasn't for that though, that's just some shit they made up. The 2nd ammendment was so we wouldn't need a standing army, in case some fascist asshole tried to use it against us.
It did not end well
Because Democrats have made Gun Ownership antithetical to their party, so about half the country has NO GUNS as a personality trait While Republicans have encouraged their party to buy all the guns Leftists encourage gun ownership but Democrats discourage Leftists. See where this is going?
Learn about the 1973 DC Home Rule Act, section 740. It gives POTUS the legal, Constitutional right to use National Guard troops in DC. Don't like it? Change the law! I'm totally cool with this legal and Constitutional behavior by POTUS.
Logic is hard when your head's up your ass.
That should be the title of a future history book. “Logic is hard when your head is up your ass: America and white nationalism”
Perfect
There's clear logic to their belief system. They view 2a as their (racist) protection against minorities and sending troops into cities jibe with that ideology.
Their logic is nothing more than lust for power.
Aw come on, it’s more than that. There’s also white hot dehumanizing bigotry.
Of course. And what they do is fully consistent with a lust for power.
Thing is, conservatism is a belief in hierarchy. The conservatives among us do not lust for any power, they are just bootlickers who like to power bottom for their masters, their lust is to be dominated. They hate us for our freedoms and our refusal to be subjugated
- "we have to protect against democrat federal government tyranny" - "the republican federal government can do whatever it wants" there is no contradiction here just an unbelievable amount of fascistic hypocrisy
Apparently tyranny is okay but tranny is not
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If you disagree with either of these sentiments, it is because you are a socialist and hate America
Cognitive dissonance in a normal person would feel an emotional conflict. Unfortunately, that also requires some sense of sympathy, empathy, or some minute feeling for someone besides self. Tells us loads @ our elected representative who place office & dollars over lives.
“Tyranny” only counts when it’s stuff the gun nuts don’t agree with
Like Covid masks and vaccines…morons are in power.
You should do a college tour and disrupt the indoctrination!
Wise. You've been reading de Tocqueville, right?
You are right. Any society that cares deeply about the second amendment will also try to teach gun safety so people do not accidentally off themselves.
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Yep. Just as reasonable as trusting your government when it wants to collect guns from you.
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Meanwhile he is falling apart both mentally and physically and the cast of clowns are vying for best ass kisser award
The poor guard is being humiliates for a ridiculous distraction They are picking up garbage for Christ sake
Government tyranny....? Where are these gun owners right now? That argument just went down the shitter...
The left has traditionally, just gotten on the cattle car. The far right has buried more guns than the left owns. No amount of gun control will change that. However, it will change your ability to protect yourself from these people.
You do know that the cattle cars will be segregated, and black, brown and poor people will be locked in them to die. Human life has no value to this regime.
But they will be electric! I keep watching for Elon to file a patent....
HA! Yes and the guards will be armed drones w/ robotic AI voices .
The government tyranny argument has apparently, always been bullshit.
"It's OK when I do it"
Yes. And while I am vigorously anti-gun for me personally, and I wish for the entire world… I AM starting to see a possible benefit to having numbers of us owing WMDs after all. But seriously, when does this nightmare end?!?
Yeah, you can climb back into your black hole with your person in in the oval office.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
When your kid gets shot next, well just live with it. We'll send thoughts and prayers, of course.
I'm a gun owner and I've never had the urge to shoot children so pretty sure it's not the guns. Every single mass shooter has something in common that many gun owners don't: an obsession with troll sites like 4chan, Something Awful, and Stormfront.
Save America and our future! Stop thinking that guns in the hands of domestic terrorists, or America in the hands of Fascists, makes anyone safe! Vote every last conservative out!
"government tyranny" was always a placeholder for "Black uprising"
Exactly.
same deal with stand your ground and castle laws
Yeah, I'm from one of those states and glad I'm gone..
THIS … and a host of other really bullshit reasons. Maybe if they’d had a fucking civics class that was worth a shit they’d actually be going after those tyrants right now.
Find a protest and every day call your reps & GOP leaders. None of this stops until he’s gone. Your reps and GOP leaders can be reached 202-224-3121 Tell them to remove Trump by impeachment/treason charges Need help use 5calls.org Also, Runforsomething.net
🤔sarcasm much?
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This is my thought, too. We’ve been forced to live with the horrors of the second amendment just in case of Tyranny and yet Tyranny is here and no one has taken up arms. What are we even doing in this country?
Also we are the party of small government, but you can't marry whom you wish, nor decide when or if to have children, nor freely pursue your interests, nor speak about them in public.
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You're assuming everyone fits neatly into two boxes.
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