the recent mass shooting was carried out by a cisgender man as well. you’re doing no trans people any favors with this faulty reporting

Are you denying his existence?🤭

He was a DEtransioner experimented with his gender identity & decided he in fact was NOT Trans but still CISGENDER... Those pics are from YEARS AGO. He has been violently ANTI-Trans AND a vocal WHITE SUPREMACIST in recent years...🤷‍♀️

The guy who shot two lawmakers and their spouses (plus a pet) was a right wing white male. He had a long hit list of liberals. Trump didn't even send condolenses. It happened in Wisconsin too.

Mostly incels 😐

And so was the last one, the shooter was a detransitioner

That doesn't make them not trans, necessarily...it usually means they detransition due to external (family, social) pressure.

I shake my head as republican try to make transgender a commonality in mass shootings when there is one co stand commonality in every mass shooting .... guns.

Guns and men.

clearly not!

Guns and men -- and of course our leaders have been unwilling to sensibly deal with either.

The US has a greed, apathy and violence problem - not a transgender people problem. The facts stand, over 97% school shooters were cis white males.

Most of them are considered Incels.

As my old friend Mary would say, it’s the testosterone, stupid.

True. Let’s change the laws so that only women can have guns for self defense after much education, training, vetting and testing. We are not the ones shooting children in schools. Mentally healthy women don’t suffer pregnancy, labor and delivery and then kill what we or others have created.

Mostly disgruntled white guys

Not just most - more than 90% are carried out by while male Christians

Akin to stating most Pschizophrenics are Non-violent until they arent

Deflecting blame and accountability for their sadistic actions, ignoring statistics and facts. Typical of cisgender men.

Facts.

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Considering that gender identity is deeply personal and confidential unless a person chooses to publicly affirm it, I don’t see how it’s possible to draw conclusions one way or another. At most, these statistics reveal whether or not the accused publicly affirmed a transgender identity.

Percentages seem to mirror those found in the general population...😞

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Yes, "Most mass shootings are carried out by cisgender men"--- but from now on, the right will refer ONLY to the Minneapolis church shooting when they 'give examples.' They're fine with lying.

They're all men. Even if they don't think they are.

What the hell does this have to do with sexual orientation? One way or the other.

Republican men, FIFY

By “most” you mean “nearly all.”

That might be the point - illustrating how insignificant the trans number is. That's my takeaway.

Can you imagine if IT happened just so these women would not talk?! The lengths this man will go to, to not take accountability.

Hope it's true

You lost me at "cisgender" men. You mean Men...

cissy pwned

No, you're just a willfully ignorant weirdo

"cisgender" is the kind of bullshit that helped him get elected. Mother Jones is a tabloid as insane as the far right. - Both need to go.

No duh! The number of women, trans or cis, that do this falls well within STATISTICAL INSIGNIFICANCE!!I

This is just another excuse to blame Trans for this tragedy, but the real tragedy remains that it's the lack of legislation that continues to be the main cause of these tragedies

Can’t we just call them male psychopaths for now ⁉️

Easily disproven!

Any old fucking excuse will do for those idiots on the right.

there have been 4 trans mass shooters since 2018. anyone care to know the statistics for mass shooters that aren't trans in the same time frame? spoiler alert: you're gonna be seeing many more digits after the first one

Its the guns

As most Americans ask, what is cisgender again?

when was that word invented? seriously what was the word for it before? i never heard that word till a couple years ago

As early as 1914, in Germany.. back when the Germans were light years ahead in terms of studying human sexuality en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

Believe me we know that’s just more stupid right wing think tank propaganda that’s unfounded 100%

Uh...let's be a little more specific - white heterosexual incel males in the US are behind most mass shootings. They're also the reason for the SA statistic of 31/71...

If most men are cisgenders doesn’t that actually show that a disproportionate amount of mass ahootings are carried out by transgenders?

No because you have to know what the proportion is to call something disproportionate.

So if less than 1% of the global population is transgender (round up call it 1%) that means that 1 transgender mass shooter equals 100 cisgender. Since 1982 we have had 155 mass shooters in the USA. If 8 of those are transgender that’s an 800/150 ratio tilting non-cis. Double check my math. 🤔

That's now how math works 1.4% of the population, 4 mass shooters which translates to .1%

If we are calling it 1.4% (seems plausible) then out of mass shooters in the USA since 1982 the ratio is actually 8(trans)147(cis) 1.4%/98.2% so that is a huge disparity of transgender mass shooters.

Are you mentally disabled or just bad at math.

What a shockingly dishonest approach to the topic.

Even with there shitty math it still wouldn't be disproportionate

I’m not certain what it means on a larger scale, but the math looking at cis vs trans mass shooters in the past 4 decades clearly shows a mass shooter is 10x more likely to be trans. 🤷‍♂️

Ok you are mentally disabled its less then 1%

You’re sincerely dogshit at understanding math. 10x more likely is actually so delusional I am having a genuinely difficult time not viewing you as a morally and intellectually bankrupt individual. 🤷🏻‍♀️

You do the math tell me. It depends on what percentage of the population you think is trans. 1% 3% not certain but it is certain that smaller population is responsible for over 5% of mass shootings in the past 4 decades. How would you phrase it then?

I don't know what the fuck kind of math you're using to come to this conclusion, and I strongly suspect neither do you.

They’re trying to do math backwards. They’re starting with the conclusion they demand is correct and try to make the math resemble that opinion. It’s just stupidity. Nothing new.

Some say 3%-5% trans population which would blow that ratio out of the water if true. 🤔

Isn't that only the number of mass shootings in which at least the people were killed? If so, the shooting at the school church wouldn't even be included. Hard to do stats on stuff like this.

Mmmmm white angry little men that are cowards. Maybe if mental health wasn’t as stigmatized as it is people would get the help that need.

Though if ever there was a time for a trans shooter, would probably be now while they're getting wrongfully denied human rights and proper mental healthcare and so on. Though, given the multitude of awful things about this particular shooter (they hated *everybody*) its irrelevant.

"most" does not say enough. "basically all" is more accurate. "most" in a headline does not communicate the 99.9+%

Maybe it has something to do with education?

84 percent white and most of them straight males. www.statista.com/statistics/4...

Cisgender white men

MOST? Has there ever been a Gay or Trans shooter?

As is most other violence….

4 trans. Far less than 1% of mass shooters. 4193 NON TRANS

@papst-ny.bsky.social

Same with rapes and other sex offences.

And White !

If y'all want to embrace the 2nd amendment as if it's 'gospel,' live with consequences or STFU.

Funny, I had that same thought the other day.

It’s like 5000+ versus 4…

Are mass shootings even *proportionally* carried out by transfolk?

Most mass shootings are not carried out by men named Haverdink. This is because a very small percentage of the population has that name.

According to Gorka, the mass shooting data is not accurate cuz 3 mass murders of religious school children out of the 32 murderers is not accurate and we need to focus on the 3 not the 32, cuz the 3 were trans, and the others were not so the focus needs to be on the 3. Cuz that is accurate, the 3.

There's clearly a pattern here.

Not most. The vast majority (in the 95%+ range).

Exactly... This is how to report it! Journalists are so weak these days!

However, mosr are still American. Your gun laws make no sense in the 21st century.

Most of us agree, believe it or not. I know it doesn't seem that way outside the states, but the gun lobby here is STRONG. The NRA owns so many politicians. Most of the people here consistently support some amount of gun control. Around 2/3 of us generally. Not a defense, just info.

Nazis: every ‘trans’ person is actually just a confused male or female, except the Nazi that did a shooting, they’re legit trans.

Their stinking murderers! There is a special place in eternity for child murderers!

This last one was too. Dude absolutely explored his gender and actively landed on CIS Man.

Yep and their profiles are pretty much all the same.

Reminder: Most mass shootings are carried out by cisgender, white, heterosexual men.

The research is Clear that straight white males are overwhelmingly mass murder shooters and Any other narrative is false and politically motivated

Distraction from the far-right ties

I think it's a yes-and with the source added The far right is causing this violence more than any other group share.google/nTg898HghkfY...

White ones.

Ex-Texan here. And these shooters gave a clearly defined profile. 🤮 #makeamericasaneagain

I believe they are overwhelmingly Christians, correct? Like the KKK and Nazis? But we can’t blame the actual cause. We must find a different reason, or mommy will look like a liar.

Not practicing …

They seem like they have it down pat, no more practice needed.

They do love to demonize minorities!

Correction - most mass shootings are carried out by American cisgender men.

90% of all inmates are men. We have a masculinity problem.

Cisgender? True but also: Mostly Incels Mostly MAGA Many who have become radicalized by the website communities they have become part of and have been egged on by bad actors who “get a kick” out of getting these guys to commit these atrocities. “You’ll be a hero and maybe a remembered martyr”

yes, like 98%

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They are carried out by white nationalists maga domestic terrorists out for revenge on Trump order on social media!

And all have one thing in common. A grudge and easy access to killing machines!

Anything, literally anything to scapegoat a vulnerable community to avoid taking responsibility for their own shortcomings.

There's been fewer than 10 trans shooters in 10 years. That's about 0.11% - less than a quarter of 1% Cis/het/white/men make up nearly 60% of all shooters. They also make up nearly 3/4 of all violent and sexually based offenses.

Apparently the number is 4 trans mass shooters.

Yep, I forgot the exact number but I knew it was low. Thank you.

All cool, I forgot the number of cis mass shooters but I know it was 11k+ over the last ten years making the statistics .036% It’s weird to quibble over dicks when the issue is really hardcore auto and semi automatic guns. Just another way the CEO’s bamboozle us.

and weren't they all just nazi's too?

Quite probably. Like that dickhead in norway…

that number includes this shooter and the club q shooter

ie that count is bullshit

Yep 100%

So even lower than 4? Jezuz, I’m thinking maybe trans folk aren’t the problem… The problem may be dickheads with too easily accessed powerful weapons that are designed to put people down like dogs…

What might cisgender men who commit this sort of crime and transgender people have in common? Bullying, ostracization, loneliness, unrelenting stress and anxiety… all of the aforementioned? Not an excuse, but probably a common trigger.

How many were female, though? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

If that was the case, then why does Australia have shootings exclusively from organised crime and far right nutjobs with illegal firearms? You have a right wing defended gun problem USA.

Cisgender white men, I might add.

But aren't transgender immigrants taking over whole cities or something?

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we dont need to concede ground, we dont need to “yes, but”. this was an attack by a cis man radicalized by right wing politics of death and nihilism

All mass shootings are carried out by posessers of guns. They possess them before discharging them. Posessers of guns carry out 100% of all shootings. I'm beginning to think it's the guns that are the problem.

Trans shooters responsible for mass shootings in: Minnesota Philadelphia Nashville Aberdeen TX Denver Colorado Springs -------------------- Spare us the lies. 🤥🤥🤥

Oh look, the lying freak ignored the tons more by cis people.

We have a cis-male epidemic

There's only one sort of men.

Mostly white supremacist republican cisgender men!

Reminder: so was this one, you are pushing a genocide-supporting lie.

Yep, there has been like 3 out of almost 6000 that involved transgender individuals. For an adult population that is 0.8% Trans, there should be 450+ more cases just to be on average with cis individuals.

This recent one was as well.

Yup. Not even close. (For anyone confused by the technical term "cisgender" that means "straight" men.)

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Christian white cisgender men. They were brainwashed since birth.

Most mass shootings and violence in general are carried out by men. Maybe thats the issue that needs addressing.

Houston published the definitive instructional video for how to deal with active shooters (the Feds have included it in their training since 2014). It included stats that indicated 90% were male and 95% acted alone. Nothing's changed...

Maybe pumping massive amounts of hormones into young people isnt such a great idea after all.

He was a Republican supporter AGAIN

99% ???

It's not entirely surprising that some mass shootings are carried out by trans women - evidence suggests that they inevitably carry forward male patterns/levels of violence. However, the real issue here is gun availability.

Yes but the church school shootings were carried out by trans individuals.

And most of them are WHITE. That's why we fail to call them what they are = terrorists. That is why we fail to implement true gun reform. If large numbers on POC started buying guns, Congress would act quickly.

They already did it once (St. Reagan himself signed it into CA law): www.history.com/articles/bla...

You're absolutely right! It should be referred to as domestic terrorism. I don't care about your mental problems. If you target children all bets are off.

Aren’t most terrorists Caucasian males?

Bull

A MAGA would miss the "not disproportionately." A better headline: "white males are the majority of mass shooters (NOT transgenders)"

Well yes this is true. There are only a very small percentage of men that are transgender to begin with. But they are all still considered to be cisgender whether they modify their bodies or not.

You should have stopped at the period following "true", as the rest of your comment is a mess.

It's also useful to point out that Robin had de-transitioned, apparently under a lot of pressure from right-wing hate media. If I was going to point a finger of blame at any organizations other than the NRA for these mass shootings I would start with Fox News.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

Another mentally ill person (see DSM 5) was allowed to legally purchase a small arsenal. Start there.

This is exactly what I thought. RW media is toxic to young people. Guilted by algorithms into detransitioning then adopted demented RW ideology like hatred of immigrants, antisemitism, embracing bigotry & misogyny. Now factor in this person’s gun fetish & homicidal tendencies & this was a powder keg

if we could talk to Robin, I am willing to bet that many of the darkest facets of dysphoria had resurfaced and driven him to thoughts of constant self-destruction. It is my opinion he was angrily shouted out of his own self-care and happiness and encouraged to think only of killing and hate.

By their own admission. They are an Entertainment channel. With political opinions. No one in their right minds could take them seriously. 🇮🇪🇪🇺

Then they should be legally banned from using the word news in any description of themselves. I would be perfectly fine with that. It would not infringe on their free speech rights in the slightest.

Foxx Not Real News channel is not transmitted to Ireland. We used to have it via Bsky but it's ultra right wing American political opinions didn't go well with our central politics. 🇮🇪🇪🇺

Ireland...where you can be arrested for "causing anxiety" by retweeting a meme. Tell me again about your "central politics"? Sounds like the UK version of sharia law.

Fox Feelings sounds about right. Fucking snowflakes

In that case there must be a lot of Americans who are not in their right minds as it is very popular among right wingers.

Yes

I've heard from many sources that he dtransitioned but none of those said it was due to any right wing media.

That was the subtext I picked up. He was made to feel disgust for his transness and so discarded it.

Or he wasn't actually trans...

Why would anyone go through the hassle and stigmatization of transitioning, if they weren't transgender?

Bingo. We don't do this cause it's fun or to impress our woke friends. We do it IN SPITE of the chorus of friends and family begging us not to. It is the hardest thing most of us would ever do unless we are like mountain climbers thinking of tackling K2 or Everest. It is a daunting undertaking

Doesn't look like he did, looks like he just said that in his journals to stoke up hate.

Sadly, that sounds plausible

Social contagion, the wacked out psychiatric standard of affirm affirm affirm, many other possible undiagnosed issues, that could have easily remained undiagnosed if his therapist was mainly focused on dysphoria that may not have even been the root cause.

A psychiatrist would definitely ask lots of questions before simply affirming a transgender person. And please remember that they used the same false accusations against L and G as they now do against T.

NRA??? 🤣How old are you?

"under pressure from right-wing hate media". keep carrying water for violent left.

The overwhelming majority of political violence comes from right wing media and those who follow it. It's not even a comparison lol.

And vaccines and science

We should include rainbows, they're very afraid of rainbows.

fun™ fact..... that's a cop. Say hello to Mike Dunn doofus extraordinaire

I had to stop laughing to say congrats

They are called "Ammo-sexuals"... Pronouns are was/were.

It would not matter what gender we were if there were no guns. Everyone needs to do something about the problem.

I guess that settles it once and for all. This will be cited on OAN for sure.

This distinction seems unnecessary.

“most” isn’t even accurate enough… it’s 96-98%. just saying “most” allows it to remain vague and open to interpretation.

Cisgender my hole. Stupid fuckin term.

No drag queens either

White people- commit over 50% of all crime and the majority of murders.

the one common thread among all mass shooters is they think they have nothing to look forward to and nothing left to lose terribly desperate people, trump is creating millions of people just like that. things are about to get even more dangerous

That’s most of the male population. What’s your fucking point? Most of those are also gang related.

Well you knew this would be the path they took. Any chance to demonize 🤬

A study by the Gun Violence Archive: Over the past 20 years. There have been 4400 mass shootings in the US. Out of that 4400, only 10 identified as Transgender. It's interesting that with 4390 mass shootings. Most being cis-males. No one has discussed banning cis-males from owning firearms. Huh.

They are white boys/men

Cisgender WHITE men.

There's only one logical solution: ban cisgender men

Yea the Trenchcoat Mafia did not wear dresses They wore Trenchcoats

Most of those cis males were right wing white and posted a manifesto somewhere online

For every 1 trans shooter, there are about 1000 cisgender ones.

You can just say men. You don’t have to say the cisgender part.

When the subject involves trans peeps, then yes it does, skippy.

with GUNS...

So, by their line of logic, white men

And white

I wish the networks would not cut to these scenes on a National basis......These individuals that kill themselves DIE for the headlines they know they will get.........WHY FEED INTO THIS MADNESS. It's like a commercial promotion for school killings.

Who knew that when you have a political party determined to brainwash a particular group of people that they are superior and better and that every other group is scum to be "taken care of", that group becomes radicalized and does heinous acts

No duh.

Like 95% plus

Like 99.7%

Of course they are

I wonder how many were women (including, of course, Trans Women). I would really like to see a breakdown of all metrics (phenotype, cultural group, sex, gender, age, geographic placement, etc). I think it would be interesting, but still, I bet WASP Cis Males are the largest group.

I'm positive you are correct!

Hi Zelma! That was my favorite aunts name 😊

That's awesome! I was named after my Grandmother. I'm always happy to hear of other Zelma's! 🫶🏽

The fraud anti crime administration won’t do anything about the #1 cause of children’s death.

I don't care what gender a shooter is, he/she/they, must be stopped. Gender isn't the issue, access to weapons is the issue. No gun. No bullets. That stops kids in school, or anywhere else, from being easy targets.

White people commit most of the crime in America.

Racists claim 82% of crimes are comitted by blacks. Don't know where they get their fake stats.

That is false information most mass shooters murderers and serial killers are white men!!!!!

Their asses.

Racism

And white men.

Maga republican men

I lost my nephew to suicide following his transition. Transgender ideology is a beacon for the naive and mentally ill. It has all the characteristics of a cult.

you're the reason your nephew killed themselves

Are the majority of shooters angry because they were raised by single mothers? Do they despise the fact they had no masculine role model to guide them? Is it fear of being lonely that drives their anger against defenceless children? Are kids mirror images of themselves, vulnerable and defenceless?

Interesting take

Most mass shooters are male, some children, others adults. But your country isn't doing anything to solve the problem - mental health and social inclusion

"A direct correlation" - A relationship between two variables where both tend to move in the same direction: When one variable increases (extreme racism), the other (mass shooters) also tends to increase, and when one decreases, the other also tends to decrease. #guns

THAT SHOULD BE COMMON KNOWLEDGE, but I blame religious extremists. Hatred this intense is paychotic. They're criminally insane. IMHO....

Facts and truth matter. Lies destroy trust, and they lie about everything, with the intent of destroying us . They've crossed too many lines! It's bully back, and he shrivels right up!!!! But, if we don't stop them from blowing up the planet, who will?!?

Just to be clear. ALL mass shootings are carried out by gunowners. Never have I ever associated mass shootings with gender dysphoria. I'm sure all/most of you see it that way too. Is what the right is doing, blaming trannies? Not sure why MJ is even calling this into doubt.

I doubt it. In all of history someone has stolen a gun abd used it for a mass shooting.

Once they steal it they are the owner of it. Not rightful but they are in possession of it. In all of history those who used guns for mass shooting were in possession of a gun.

And abetted by republicans, eunuchs following a pedophile.

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only magats think that.

The majority of mass shooters in the U.S. are male, with 84 out of 155 mass shootings between 1982 and August 2025 committed by white shooters, which is about 54%.

Translation. MAGA men.

Anyone could carry out a mass shooting, but nobody would be able to unless they have access to guns.

They are however disproportionately duplicate and klan

Republican*

Men don't have abortions, moron.

Sure they do. But then, don't let a little thing like transphobia get in the way of your humanity, dingus.

Hate that term. Stop using it

cisgender white men.

All mass shooters use guns. The common denominator is guns. Let’s remove the guns.

The problem is male people. Over 96% of mass shootings since 1982 were committed by male individuals. www.statista.com/statistics/4...

There’s a major flaw in your argument. The firearms aren’t to blame, the fool holding it is. You really think banning firearms fixes things? Go to the UK, news flash, since they banned firearms, their crime has gone up, and the weapon of choice is knives. The weapon is irrelevant.

The weapon is not irrelevant. The ready access to weapons like these is the issue. Should be One for home self defense kept with you, pistol preferably. One to two hunting rifles if you’re into that, locked away somewhere central but accessible and signed out so you know it’s secure.

The rest? Let specialized ranges own and maintain them, and you can come use them when you wish to have fun with ‘em. Then they’re returned to the range and kept secure. No civilian needs anything more powerful. Even slimmed down, their design is still for one thing, and it’s why they’re popular.

Before you try to purposely misunderstand me: I’m not saying they’re popular because people want to use them for that all the time. No. Those are just the nuts. But they’re very efficient at it, and that “cool factor” (plus the compensatory aspect) is the selling point.

I’ll present one name, Jerry Miculek. The object chosen is irrelevant, it is an inanimate object. Anything can be a weapon, it is the intent of the person handling the object that defines its use. Whether it’s a .223, or a sledgehammer, in the hands of ill intent, anything can be used proficiently.

Who’s going to remove the guns?

Ohhh but when the second of the thousands of mass shooters happens to be trans, watch maga morons lose their ever loving minds

disproportionally white christian republican men

Is this now the current excuse by Republicans in their need to avoid the real causes?

Also they want to demonize trans people.

There are more heterosexual men than trannys so of course you will have more recorded shootings. But, on a per-capita basis trannys are waaaaay higher. There's a definite problem within this community... Nice try at data manipulation though, MJ. You got caught! 😉

Only a Moron believes that. Hence - MAGA

Why not just describe them MEN?

Like crime…

Can we amend that to cisgender white men?

Most mass shootings are committed by cisgender black men.

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Of course that cult is trying to make America fear the trans community with no actual facts to back up their BS claims. Typical trumpian playbook. Here is the analysis of a study reported on by Reuters.

The disinformation is horrific.

Lol, not so true recently though….

"Recently" as in...when? I don't see any sort of dramatic uptick and there would be a long way to go before it would start to compare to the cis white male pattern of mass shooters.

the percentage of people *openly* identifying as trans has increased over the years, and crime rates have been pretty proportional to this across the board-- if not lower than expected

Sounds about right. The number going up also is predictable given the changing social views and more acceptability (same thing happened with left handers when they stopped forcing kids to be right handed in school, interestingly enough).

Sit down whoever wrote this headline and explain they’re part of the problem. Article’s fine.

Only groups with social power get to be “lone wolves” rather than reps of their entire group. Remember the absolute melt down the right had when people said look at all these white male mass shooters- what’s going on with white men? Total snowflake meltdown.

A related datum.

That was a bad typo. Try two Realistically, that Islamist extremism belongs lumped in with the right wing stuff (as that is what it is) - unless we’re being clear it’s white right wing extremism.

But All Mass Shootings are Commuted by the Mentally Ill

"White" FIFY

White Men

Most mass shootings are carried out by men. Fixed it.

Ammosexual white supremists. Put your hair in pigtails & call yourself trans….. it will mean more🙄

Point of clarification the most recent shooter was DEtransioner meaning that they experimented with their gender identity decided they were NOT Trans and went bact to living as a CISGENDER person.....(1/)

And for some reason a NAZI... THIS SHOOTER WAS A NAZI & WHITE SUPREMACIST.... Trans..... Meaning th number is still 3(Colorado shooter LIED about being Enby).. But the NAZIS(sorry republicans) will never stop pretending they were actually Trans & not a Cis White Supremacist like them..(2/)

Trans people are the EPITOME of "Peaceful not harmless" and they have been BEGGING th rest of society to stand up for them...

So even going with the republicans 5 that IS a still a Statistically significant number.... for how monumentally NONviolent Trans people actually are because anything between 17&36 would be considered "normal" compared to the 6,000 CISGENDER shooters there have been.....(3/)

Now do the percentages for the past 10 mass shootings in the USA. Hint: Mother Jones will NOT do this as it would undermine the narrative they are pushing. Fact: Recent mass shooters have been disproportionately trans.

99% of Mass Shooters are Cis yt Men..... they're pushing this so hard cause they're going to have to wait for another 99 mass shootings for a chance that the shooter will be Trans. It's also interesting how they seem to ignore the fact he was a Nazi who'd Detransitioned.

"most"? I doubt that claim is in PROPORTION to their respective populations. It's simple and obvious math. MJ misrepresents the truth to indoctrinate you into hating America and anything that is true and good.

So you have, what, 5 examples there, and not all of them are even valid? Do you want to now address the THOUSANDS of examples of cis-het white male mass shooters? Also, "hating America" is the easiest it has ever been thanks to Trump.

Admit it, you have always found some excuse to hate America. Now it's Trump. Before that, it was Bush, Cheney, Reagan, the millionaires and billionaires, Wall Street, corporations, traditional families. You always find something good or trivial to justify your innate hatred of our great country.

That's false, nor do I care if you think otherwise. I'm not in your cult of faux-patriotism. I don't have to tailor my views in order to step around your insecurities about the country. Your whole list reads like a White Christofascist Nationalist checklist of how you want the country to be run.

You just proved my point. Almost all of your claims are false. No cult. Real patriotism. No insecurities. Not fascist. Yes unapologetically nationalist*.

I proved no point of yours nor is anything I said false. You openly support a National Socialist (fascist). You openly support white nationalist and specifically the White Christofascist Nationalism variety.

No, Trump is most obviously not a "National Socialist (fascist)". I do not, nor have I ever claimed to, support "white nationalism". I support nationalism for every American, regardless of their race, sex, ethnicity or whatever. I despise fascism. Once again, you are wrong on almost every issue.

Trump is a National Socialist. He favors centralized, autocratic power, appeal to "law and order" militarism, aggressive Christian nationalism, white supremacy, anti-LGBTQ, pro "trad families" including gender roles. The list is long and his takover of Intel is just the latest example.

So, being an anti-American socialist is OK, but being a socialist who loves America is not OK? Weird. No, we're OK with LGB and Q. We're only opposed to the "T", which doesn't exist. Many of us in MAGA are also not thrilled with Trump wanting to invest in (not "take over") 9.9% of Intel.

National Socialism is not Socialism. That's just the name that was adopted for the German implementation of fascism in order to compete with the actual Socialists/Communists whom Hitler despised. Trans gender people exist. There is no argument about this. Your selective bigotry ignores the facts.

* nationalist: The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals. The belief that a particular cultural constitutes a distinct people deserving of political self-determination.

Yes, you are a white nationalist. You think that's what "American" is and means.

Wrong again. I support nationalism for EVERY American, regardless of their race, sex, ethnicity or whatever. I kinda think Democrats don't fulfill this requirement: Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams

Especially the "moral" part.

Is that why Donald Trump so immorally dishonors and violates it so easily and readily? Trump is a White Christofascist Nationalist. Support for him is support for White Christofascist Nationalism.

You don’t seem to love America. So you don’t have room to say anyone hates America. If you loved America, you wouldn’t be a right winger. They hate American democracy and the republic it used by be governed by. Supporting a fascist wannabe dictator means you HATE America. This is the point at which

you will call me a communist because you really don’t know what that word means like most multisyllable words. Just be sure that you hate America as much or more than anyone in this thread or you’d be trying to get assault weapons banned once again.

Those were just a few examples of NON-GANG mass shootings by "transgender" and queer people. If you remove gang shootings, as they are not based on ideology or hatred of a racial or religious group, then the comparative rate of the "transgender" shooters goes way up.

Except it doesn't nor does it go to anything comparable to the number of mass shootings by cis white men.

I think the transgender shooter RATE might be higher if you compare the RATES based on their respective populations. Example: Group A: Population = 100 people. Shooters: 10 people Group B: Population = 100,000 people. Shooters: 100 people Rates: Group A = 10 % shooters Group B = 0.1 % shooters

Except, it STILL won't compare to what the rate is for cis white men. You are trying so hard to inflate a rate that is statistically so insignificant, it might as well not even exist relative to the rate committed by cis white men.

I did the math for you. Cisgender white men are responsible for the vast majority of mass shootings, with a per capita rate of approximately 21.6 mass shootings per million cisgender white men.

Transgender individuals of any race are linked to a much smaller number of shootings, giving a per capita rate of roughly 1.8 mass shootings per million transgender individuals.

Cisgender White Men (CWM) Population: US total population ≈ 330,000,000 White: ~60% Male: ~49% CWM percentage ≈ 0.60 × 0.49 = 0.294 (29.4%) CWM population=330,000,000×0.294=96,900,000

Mass shootings attributed Mass shootings (2018–2025): ≈ 4,100 (generous estimate for 25 years) Percentage by white men: 52.3% (NIJ data) Percentage male shooters: 97.7% CWM share=4100×0.523×0.977≈2090 Per capita rate (per 1,000,000): CWM rate=2090/(96,900,000/1,000,000)=2090/96.9≈21.6

Those are some very impressive calculations. Seriously: Kudos! What was your source for numbers of "mass shootings"? 4.000 mass shootings in 7 years sounds insane. Where did that number come from?

That 4100 number is an estimate using the GVA "mass shootings" defintion. BTW, the ChatGPT5 convo I posted went on to tell me that my own assumptions were padded in favor of the argument you were making. The actual data shows that the comparison is even less statistically significant than I found.

This seems to contradict your claim:

We're both making claims we have not provided any evidence for. It's time for some data.

I literally just did the math for you. The rate for CWM mass shooter per capita is 21.6. The rate for transgender mass shooter per capita is 1.8. 21.6 to 1.8. Which number is bigger? Which number is bigger by a whole lot?

And I consulted a frontier model AI to double check my math and work:

Yes, I saw that. I just wonder if the BASIS of your calculations is flawed. The UNDERLYING data. That 's why I asked for the source of your data. Why are you hesitant to provide it?

I'm not hesitant. I literally just told you. The Gun Violence Archive lists 4000 mass shootings since 2018 alone. I extrapolated upward just a little to account for the last 25 years, which is what I was trying to figure out.

more than 99% are cisgender...and a high percentage of them are also white.