"most"? I doubt that claim is in PROPORTION to their respective populations. It's simple and obvious math. MJ misrepresents the truth to indoctrinate you into hating America and anything that is true and good.
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So you have, what, 5 examples there, and not all of them are even valid? Do you want to now address the THOUSANDS of examples of cis-het white male mass shooters? Also, "hating America" is the easiest it has ever been thanks to Trump.
aug 31, 2025, 6:24 pm • 5 0 • view
Admit it, you have always found some excuse to hate America. Now it's Trump. Before that, it was Bush, Cheney, Reagan, the millionaires and billionaires, Wall Street, corporations, traditional families. You always find something good or trivial to justify your innate hatred of our great country.
aug 31, 2025, 7:06 pm • 2 0 • view
That's false, nor do I care if you think otherwise. I'm not in your cult of faux-patriotism. I don't have to tailor my views in order to step around your insecurities about the country. Your whole list reads like a White Christofascist Nationalist checklist of how you want the country to be run.
aug 31, 2025, 7:08 pm • 5 0 • view
You just proved my point. Almost all of your claims are false. No cult. Real patriotism. No insecurities. Not fascist. Yes unapologetically nationalist*.
aug 31, 2025, 7:23 pm • 2 0 • view
I proved no point of yours nor is anything I said false. You openly support a National Socialist (fascist). You openly support white nationalist and specifically the White Christofascist Nationalism variety.
aug 31, 2025, 7:27 pm • 3 0 • view
No, Trump is most obviously not a "National Socialist (fascist)". I do not, nor have I ever claimed to, support "white nationalism". I support nationalism for every American, regardless of their race, sex, ethnicity or whatever. I despise fascism. Once again, you are wrong on almost every issue.
aug 31, 2025, 7:40 pm • 1 0 • view
Trump is a National Socialist. He favors centralized, autocratic power, appeal to "law and order" militarism, aggressive Christian nationalism, white supremacy, anti-LGBTQ, pro "trad families" including gender roles. The list is long and his takover of Intel is just the latest example.
aug 31, 2025, 7:42 pm • 3 0 • view
So, being an anti-American socialist is OK, but being a socialist who loves America is not OK? Weird. No, we're OK with LGB and Q. We're only opposed to the "T", which doesn't exist. Many of us in MAGA are also not thrilled with Trump wanting to invest in (not "take over") 9.9% of Intel.
aug 31, 2025, 7:55 pm • 1 0 • view
National Socialism is not Socialism. That's just the name that was adopted for the German implementation of fascism in order to compete with the actual Socialists/Communists whom Hitler despised. Trans gender people exist. There is no argument about this. Your selective bigotry ignores the facts.
aug 31, 2025, 7:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Trump has been anti-LGBTQ+ and I have yet to see any real pushback from your MAGA world over his National Socialist takeover of Intel.
aug 31, 2025, 7:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Then Trump is even more obviously not a National Socialist. Since you define it as a specific name given by Hitler to his movement, then Trump would have to have claimed that affiliation by name, and he obviously never has, nor would. No. People cannot transition from one sex to another.
aug 31, 2025, 8:05 pm • 0 0 • view
* nationalist: The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals. The belief that a particular cultural constitutes a distinct people deserving of political self-determination.
aug 31, 2025, 7:23 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes, you are a white nationalist. You think that's what "American" is and means.
aug 31, 2025, 7:27 pm • 3 0 • view
Wrong again. I support nationalism for EVERY American, regardless of their race, sex, ethnicity or whatever. I kinda think Democrats don't fulfill this requirement: Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams
aug 31, 2025, 7:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Especially the "moral" part.
aug 31, 2025, 7:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Is that why Donald Trump so immorally dishonors and violates it so easily and readily? Trump is a White Christofascist Nationalist. Support for him is support for White Christofascist Nationalism.
aug 31, 2025, 7:44 pm • 2 0 • view
No, he has not violated the Constitution. The Democrats have no respect for the Constitution, except for when they can increase their power by (ab)using it. Support for Trump is support for freedom and the American way.
aug 31, 2025, 7:57 pm • 0 0 • view
You don’t seem to love America. So you don’t have room to say anyone hates America. If you loved America, you wouldn’t be a right winger. They hate American democracy and the republic it used by be governed by. Supporting a fascist wannabe dictator means you HATE America. This is the point at which
sep 1, 2025, 1:23 am • 1 0 • view
you will call me a communist because you really don’t know what that word means like most multisyllable words. Just be sure that you hate America as much or more than anyone in this thread or you’d be trying to get assault weapons banned once again.
sep 1, 2025, 1:23 am • 0 0 • view
Those were just a few examples of NON-GANG mass shootings by "transgender" and queer people. If you remove gang shootings, as they are not based on ideology or hatred of a racial or religious group, then the comparative rate of the "transgender" shooters goes way up.
aug 31, 2025, 7:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Except it doesn't nor does it go to anything comparable to the number of mass shootings by cis white men.
aug 31, 2025, 7:05 pm • 3 0 • view
I think the transgender shooter RATE might be higher if you compare the RATES based on their respective populations. Example: Group A: Population = 100 people. Shooters: 10 people Group B: Population = 100,000 people. Shooters: 100 people Rates: Group A = 10 % shooters Group B = 0.1 % shooters
aug 31, 2025, 7:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Except, it STILL won't compare to what the rate is for cis white men. You are trying so hard to inflate a rate that is statistically so insignificant, it might as well not even exist relative to the rate committed by cis white men.
aug 31, 2025, 7:14 pm • 1 0 • view
I did the math for you. Cisgender white men are responsible for the vast majority of mass shootings, with a per capita rate of approximately 21.6 mass shootings per million cisgender white men.
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 pm • 2 0 • view
Transgender individuals of any race are linked to a much smaller number of shootings, giving a per capita rate of roughly 1.8 mass shootings per million transgender individuals.
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Cisgender White Men (CWM) Population: US total population ≈ 330,000,000 White: ~60% Male: ~49% CWM percentage ≈ 0.60 × 0.49 = 0.294 (29.4%) CWM population=330,000,000×0.294=96,900,000
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Mass shootings attributed Mass shootings (2018–2025): ≈ 4,100 (generous estimate for 25 years) Percentage by white men: 52.3% (NIJ data) Percentage male shooters: 97.7% CWM share=4100×0.523×0.977≈2090 Per capita rate (per 1,000,000): CWM rate=2090/(96,900,000/1,000,000)=2090/96.9≈21.6
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Transgender Individuals (TI) (All Races) Population: Est. at 1% of US pop. Trans pop.=330,000,000×0.01=3,300,000 Mass shootings attributed: Known cases: ~6 in last 25 years (generous upper est.; some sources count only 4) Per capita rate (per 1,000,000): Trans rate= 6/(3,300,000/1,000,000)=6/3.3≈1.8
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Those are some very impressive calculations. Seriously: Kudos! What was your source for numbers of "mass shootings"? 4.000 mass shootings in 7 years sounds insane. Where did that number come from?
aug 31, 2025, 7:37 pm • 0 0 • view
That 4100 number is an estimate using the GVA "mass shootings" defintion. BTW, the ChatGPT5 convo I posted went on to tell me that my own assumptions were padded in favor of the argument you were making. The actual data shows that the comparison is even less statistically significant than I found.
aug 31, 2025, 7:40 pm • 1 0 • view
No, it actually supports my claim and narrows the data I used (which favored YOU). My findings are wrong because the comparison is LESS than I said.
aug 31, 2025, 7:47 pm • 1 0 • view
We're both making claims we have not provided any evidence for. It's time for some data.
aug 31, 2025, 7:25 pm • 0 0 • view
I literally just did the math for you. The rate for CWM mass shooter per capita is 21.6. The rate for transgender mass shooter per capita is 1.8. 21.6 to 1.8. Which number is bigger? Which number is bigger by a whole lot?
aug 31, 2025, 7:28 pm • 3 0 • view
And I consulted a frontier model AI to double check my math and work:
aug 31, 2025, 8:10 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes, I saw that. I just wonder if the BASIS of your calculations is flawed. The UNDERLYING data. That 's why I asked for the source of your data. Why are you hesitant to provide it?
aug 31, 2025, 7:44 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm not hesitant. I literally just told you. The Gun Violence Archive lists 4000 mass shootings since 2018 alone. I extrapolated upward just a little to account for the last 25 years, which is what I was trying to figure out.
aug 31, 2025, 7:46 pm • 1 0 • view
GVA uses a "broad definition of mass shooting". The Gun Violence Archive (GVA) has a slight to moderate left-center bias, often cited by anti-gun advocates due to its broad definition of "mass shooting" (four or more people shot).
aug 31, 2025, 8:00 pm • 0 0 • view