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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

I find it odd that bluesky marked your post as "intolerant". What do they think is so intolerant about it?

aug 28, 2025, 4:58 am • 0 0

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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

My account has the label, so every post carries it. It's because I mostly use Bluesky to follow and engage in the sex/gender debate, and most gender-critical people are given the label.

aug 28, 2025, 5:22 am • 0 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

Oh really? I find that other people's gender and sexual orientation are usually none of my business, but I'd defend someone's freedoms. That includes their freedom to live the way they want to live. I find there is really no debate concerning those things and ppl who try are usually trolling.

aug 28, 2025, 12:37 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

I'm all for people living any way they choose, up to the usual common-sense limit, which is when it impacts negatively on others. At that point it becomes a balancing act between conflicting rights and freedoms.

aug 28, 2025, 12:42 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

How does someone else living the way they want to live, undetermined by your personal definition of common sense, effect the rights or freedoms of someone else? If you don't like it, you could just ignore it.

aug 28, 2025, 12:44 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

I think it's a fairly universally accepted limit to personal freedoms. Live how you choose unless it harms others. Right?

aug 28, 2025, 12:48 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

If there is not a safety concern, it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights.

aug 28, 2025, 12:52 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

But if there is an infringement of someone else's safety, rights, or wellbeing, then you'd accept that there should be a limit to the personal freedom in question? Society doesn't function if everyone just pleases themselves at everyone else's expense, right?

aug 28, 2025, 12:55 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

Trans women have not shown themselves to be a danger to women the way men are. Men ascribe their own motives to trans women.

aug 28, 2025, 1:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

Again, not relevant to what I asked you.

aug 28, 2025, 1:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

Persecuting someone based on their personal choices or changes they make in their lives is an infringement on their rights. Medical journals and peer reviews have come out stating the brain chemistry of a trans man more closely aligns with that of those born as men and the same for women.

aug 28, 2025, 1:00 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

That's a mixture of issues, none of which answers my question. I'm happy to discuss them individually, but only if you can at least agree that there are rational societal limits to personal freedoms. I'm hardly asking for the moon, just a basic ethical benchmark.

aug 28, 2025, 1:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

If someone's right to safety or life is violated by someone else, then I'd agree that is a basis for dispute.

aug 28, 2025, 1:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

Tell me a way someone's gender or sexual orientation would harm someone who has nothing to do with that person.

aug 28, 2025, 12:51 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

Firstly do you agree with my framing of an appropriate limit to personal freedoms?

aug 28, 2025, 12:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

No, there needs to be a direct violation that occurs and each case can be treated individually. Saying that someone who is trans violates another persons rights in general is just stupid.

aug 28, 2025, 1:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fathom Deep @fathomdeep.bsky.social

But I haven't said that. I said only that personal freedoms should be granted up to the point that they harm others. And you refuse to agree even with that simple concept.

aug 28, 2025, 1:05 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

I just know for a fact that people are in everyone else's business regarding gender and that trans people are being physically attacked because of very personal changes they have made in their lives that don't effect anyone else's safety. Their rights are being violated, not the other way around.

aug 28, 2025, 1:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jenna @genxjenna.bsky.social

I've stated the same, so no I don't.

aug 28, 2025, 1:07 pm • 0 0 • view