UnitedHealth officials are pointing to their CEO's murder as a reason they cannot comment on an unrelated @propublica.org investigation into the company's practice of strategically limiting access to critical treatment for kids with autism. "We are in mourning," a spokesperson wrote.
Full report here by @anniewaldman.bsky.social www.propublica.org/article/unit...
Wondering if this is the playbook for gyn services. UHC usually pays out of net work, but Axia won't take you if you have UHC. So I'm not sure which org is playing hardball here www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj...
We may need a revolution
ABA therapy is deeply problematic and sometimes does more harm than good, which I think is important for people to remember (although I'm def not defending UHC or their response) whyy.org/segments/how...
The consensus on ABA from Autistic people I have known that have endured it and most people who provided it is that it’s essentially dog training.
If they view the problem as a rise in autism diagnoses you can guarantee they're looking to find a way to limit all treatments, not just ABA. Everyone jumping in to weigh in on their opinions on ABA as a treatment are missing the point in my opinion.
ABA is shitty, immoral torture, but it's also the only autism "treatment" they're legally obliged to cover. So therapists who *don't* provide ABA say that they do, so that treatments can be accessed. this policy DOES limit access to all therapies.
RFK Jr. rides in for the rescue by cancelling the polio vaccine. That way, UHC does not have to cover the cost of a vaccine, and there will be no autism to treat!
The more we hear about United Health, the more abusive they sound.
Ask what events the PR department is holding during the period of mourning.
Thank you for posting the alt shot. It's very kind and thoughtful of you. I have vision problems, so the large print really helps.
This is the equivalent to the MAGA position after every mass shooting...too soon to talk about it.
And when they finally do, it's a fact of life we just have to get over.
lol name one time it’s been the time to talk about it (not making fun of you, just their reactions to both - the next thing happens just before it’s time to talk about it.)
Oh indeed, the equivalent of a conservative "talking about it " is either the above or wearing an AR-15 pin to Congress
I mean, if someone iced the CEO of the last two companies I worked for, it wouldn't prevent a single person below the executive level from doing their jobs. So pretty self-serving dodge.
The guy was killed as he was on his way to a company meeting. The meeting was still held.
"Oops, pardon me, just gotta step past you, Detective. Gotta get t-- Oh, hey Brian, last one to the meeting's going to get their next claim denied!"
Especially considering…👇
They were “mourning” so much they didn’t offer a red cent to help catch the killer. Please
Thank you!
Who the hell thought a for-profit healthcare system was a good idea? Especially when insurance companies are involved since their primary way of increasing profits is to deny, deny, deny.
ABA is torture. They use electric shocks to "manage" manifestations of autism. The DoD also does not pay for it, nor does the VA. Nobody should pay for it. UHC is correct here.
Fox News, Karl Rove, you read this?
Oh, this is honestly a hateful organization.
Having worked for one of the largest multinational corps. on the planet, I can assure you that outside of a very small group of people, 400,000 employees are not mourning his death. It is not a factor in their lives.
Not just them.. we spent years trying to get reimbursement for our Autistic daughters therapy needs. They just never paid, pretendedly like they forgot things or didn't see things OVER and OVER. Even when I shared the records with them. Evil
Our insurance is with Cigna though. Same playbook I assume.
I went to work 3 days after my Dad was killed. Pretty sure these fools will use any excuse not to answer some hard questions. Sad!
Clarification: made to go back to work after 3 whole days.
Before people say it's better with government healthcare, Tricare was doing this already a couple of years ago. And the U.S. Navy recently announced (in NAVADMIN 246/24) a reduction in respite care from 40 hours a month down to 20 or 32 (most with autism would be 20 in my opinion).
Sounds like there are a large number of providers that underperform the benchmark on a continuous basis. These businesses SHOULD close. If they are not committed to results, then they are offering expensive and substandard care.
I'm at odds. Lots of ill wind around "ABA" (Autism Speaks likes it, for one...) but we all know UHC isn't targeting ABA services specifically, just "expensive" ones to cut costs and raise profit.
This is why people radicalise
Sorry, our comment is under audit, it’s very complicated, you couldn’t understand it
*autistic children. Also, ABA is literal torture, so it's actually a good thing they aren't covering it. Can you people talk to a single autistic adult before publishing this drivel, please?
Fr this is engagingly frustrating. ABA is not good. Insurance not covering anything but ABA is the real evil of insurance. Less ABA is good. A broken clock is right twice a day.
Agreed on all counts. UHC are monsters, but so was Ivar Lovaas.
I doubt very seriously they are covering anything else for autistic kids either. If they are not covering ABA, which is the "gold standard" (barf) I would bet my bottom dollar they're not paying for adaptive communication devices or non-ABA based counseling.
yeah, maybe, but tricare does sometimes the latter, but not the former. And they could have written an article abput UNC denies coverage for-ABA therapy.
It's an important point that most posters and journalists are missing. ABA *shouldn't* be covered by insurance. It is abusive, and there are other therapies to help autistic children that don't have the goal of making them act like neurotypical kids.
But in this case they may actually be doing a good thing. Many autistic people want this- the treatment is considered terrible, akin to conversion therapy. I hate that this is getting wrapped up in the rest of what's going on.
Many autistic people also support it. The idea that it is conversion therapy with no basis either in ABA standards of practice or in any practice I've seen promoted and I've been a BCBA for over 10 years.
What an absolute joke. They listed the man’s job within a day of his death, so spare me the “mourning” lies.
ABA, the therapy that United Healthcare had cut funding for, has not been proven to be effective according to the only large scale study done on it. therapistndc.org/aba-is-not-e...
I hate insurance companies as much as the next person, but as an autistic person, it’s my duty to advocate for my own community. This means calling out abusive practices. www.researchgate.net/publication/...
I am sorry you received abuse in the name of ABA therapy. The ABA therapy my son received was a miracle and when done correctly is such a benefit.
I haven’t gone through ABA. But it’s telling when the main opponents to ABA are autistic people who have gone through ABA, and the main proponents are BCBA’s and parents.
I am a Mom to 2 kids on the spectrum and what my sons received was a true gift. My sons remember nothing but positivity because that is how it was applied.
But they did not receive ABA. They received someone's interpretation that had very abusive practices.
That statement makes as much sense as Christians trying to convince me that other Christians aren’t real Christians, and that they’re interpreting the bible wrong.
I'm a BCBA and disagree. There is a ton of disinformation about ABA out there and I've yet to come across claims being made that actually have merit. But I'm curious if you also disbelieve the science of behaviorism - which undergirds ABA and explains everyone's behavior, not just Autistics.
So, when autistic people tell you it was torturous and traumatic to go through ABA as a child, that had less merit than someone who isn't autistic saying it's fine? The. Actual. Fuck.
Then they received abuse in the name of ABA therapy. I truly feel for them. Proper ABA therapy does not include the abuses I have heard described by many online.
Absolutely. I think that because it is so intensive, and the population often so vulnerable, abuse can more easily occur. But we have strict ethical guidelines and high levels of training. Sadly where I have seen abuse is in schools where paras are not trained enough at all.
Or autistic people saying they think its great. I have no doubt some people had bad experiences, but anecdote isn't data. I've yet to hear someone point to a practice that is actually common and standard in ABA today (or in the past decade at least) that is torturous or traumatic.
You think the survey I linked to is anecdotal? You think the hundreds of participants were lying? Did you even read the study before commenting?
Yep, I read it, and I've read scholarly responses to it. It had a number of flaws. I've yet to see the things people complain are happening in ABA happen in ABA, nor are they the standard of the practice. There were issues decades ago, but I don't see them today.
How do you respond to the study done by the department of defence then? It was conducted in 2020 and the respondents were parents of children currently going through ABA. It had over 3000 participants and it didn’t support ABA being effective.
If ABA isn’t even effective in the first place, then trying to argue that it’s not traumatic is redundant.
I'd have to spend more time with it but the number of studies showing ABA as effective is far greater. The science of learning is incredibly solid, and that's all ABA is based in. In my own practice and those I've worked with over the years,
we've seen incredible success, bringing joy/independence back into the lives of countless people and their family's lives.
Oh, that's good, they stopped the physical punishment, no more electric shocks to keep the auties in line, good news folks they are just using less obviously abusive forms of manipulation on kids with deficient skills at navigating a social hierarchy to "help" them appear less autistic.
You decry the actual voices of autistic adults as anecdotal yet accept the views of non autistic therapists endorsing this practice as fact, see the problem there?
Try reading again. There are autistic people who support ABA and those who don't. You should be able to point to a standard or common ABA practice right now that is harmful if that is your claim.
That's a great example of disinfo right there. None of the standardized assessments I use, or the goals I write are to make anyone "appear less autistic". None of that is standard practice. You're either badly misinformed or lying.
Or perhaps I violently respond to people trying to change other kids because I remember having adults trying to force me to fit certain molds which didn't make sense or feel natural. Yeah my info on ABA is out of date, I didn't know anyone was still doing that shit to kids.
You can say oh we aren't doing shit like they were 20 years ago but you're using the same name and wondering why autistic adults who experienced it or learned about it from others are angry about it.
I fully support your being angry about what was done in the past. But the field is very aware of its history of unethical practices. This has happened in many forms of medicine. People speak up and hopefully it learns even though the change is usually far too slow.
God bless you!
Thank you for posting this — I was looking for the study. 💪
The way they went about this is really sketchy. They just started removing practices that did this service and making it a coverage that exists but you can't actually access it. They could have said there isn't enough evidence we won't cover it. Instead they screwed people around and lied.
I highly doubt the UHC’s intentions were out of concern for ABA’s effectiveness. Which is why I really have to side eye this article for using THIS therapy to make the point.
I hate the fact ABA practitioners are using the current public hate against health insurers to let them make $ from this. ABA has a very limited role for the very young but they keep trying to tell anxious parents they are the solution, the kid always just needs more sessions.,.
Okay, but why are you citing the website The Rapist NDC? youtu.be/cFdS7SaaYu4
Therapist NDC
They didn’t even cancel the damn meeting!
Well that is just BS. Your publicity dept. did not shut down.
Wonder if the spokesperson's name was Malvolio
This is the same as, 'This is not the time to talk about gun control' BS.
www.healthcare.gov/appeal-insur...
I don’t know why, but that statement made me laugh. They’ve got a five alarm fire going at headquarters rn. 🥳
Sorry Propublic.org, that's out of network. Claim Denied.
Ghouls
So distraught some board members literally stepped over his body to get to the meeting?
They had his job posted on LinkedIn within 48 hours.
So CeOs job Duties Must be critically important. Luigi for the score.
“We will accept no further claims until our mourning period has ended. Can’t you see our black armbands? Have you no compassion?”
Well let’s make sure, in a month or two, after a period of mourning, to ask United for comment.
Let me tell you who else is in mourning: families with autistic children that can't get the help they need. Someone tell me again how for-profit Healthcare is a good thing
Autism is not a disease, and the “treatment” is analogous to gay conversion therapy and should be banned. UHC is actually doing it right for once.
Sorry, no. You don't know what you're talking about.
In mourning? My ass. Children with autism are children who deserve the care they need.
Autism is not a disease, and the “treatment” is analogous to gay conversion therapy and should be banned. UHC is actually doing it right for once.
I in no way implied or stated that autism is a disease. I am actually autistic. One can receive accommodation or treatment for some associated issues, such as sensory issues, without treating autism itself as a disease to be cured.
Nothing analogous about it - the founder of ABA created both using the same technique.
UHC is mourning a man responsible for maliciously denying millions of claims with artificial intelligence trained to inflict misery and harm upon its customers.
Wow. I wish we had that same level of mourning for the murder at schools of innocent children. Maybe something would get done.
They wasted no time in troweling on the bullshit!
Is that why shareholders stepped over the body to hold the shareholder meeting not an hour after his murder?!?
Fuck United Health Care.
Sorry everyone, our spokesperson misheard our executives say "we aren't mourning".
GTFO UHC
Every time we see something corrupt can we just comment with this sticker? 🔥
They’re hiding from the truth.
They don't have souls. They can't mourn.
Be a shame if a Mario helped out with these people.
It hasn't stopped them from denying claims. On 21 Nov, I called 911 for my husband with stroke symptoms. On 26 Nov, he gets transferred to the rehab hospital next door from hospital he was taken to. 1am on the 28th, he goes back to the hospital because of issues with his throat.
On the 29th they did a scan, figured out what the problem is. Then he sat in a hospital bed for a week before the insurance would approve where to go after denying him to return to the rehab facility next door. It took them days to approve where to go.
The issue with this throat happened again after being at the new facility, same company as the other, different location. So basically, he's still unable to walk even with a walker. Out of 22 days since the stroke, he's had rehab for 6 days and laid in a bed for the rest.
I have no clue when he'll be home, might be before Christmas but I really doubt it. I got asked about his insurance for January. He could still be there then. He's on Medicare but UHC is the company dealing with it. They've denied so much this year, he changed companies for next year.
Today he went back into the facility they denied just last week. I could not be more frustrated than I am now about this and it's all on the insurance company, not those who are caring for him. The rehab place(s) have been shocked at that I've told them.
I hope he can come home soon. This must be so stressful for you both.
Thank you.
They didn't mourn when they refused to pay for sonograms that would have detected my Father-in-Law's liver cancer in time to save his life, nor would they approve the needed amount of hospital time, after each of the multiple injuries he sustained, between ALLOWED hospital coverage. Luigi was right
Tots and pears. The same as not even talking about gun control after a mass shooting
Yeah, right.
Oh sorry. We didn't mean to disrupt your grief. We'll just wait here while your customers don't get the care they pay you to make sure they get.
I guarantee the denied care is urgent to the parents and children.
Autism is not a disease, and the “treatment” is analogous to gay conversion therapy and should be banned. UHC is actually doing it right for once.
Therapy is essential, especially with nonverbal kids. Emotion regulation requires therapy. UHC is not doing anything right, since they aren't listening to experts or autistic people, but are merely trying to cut payments and pocket that money as "profit"
Black creepy paper banners
There is a lot going on, like having to put 6' fences around the buildings to protect employees thanks to all the murder worship. Not to mention the twisting of everything he does say I have an Autistic child AND I have UHC Insurance, but ive not once had an issue with my sons coverage.
So because you haven't had an issue with UHC, that means that the thousands of people who have been screwed by them don't have legitimate anger???
I have zero sympathy for any of them!
But you have sympathy for the murderer who we just discovered was planning on using a bomb in New York City. But hey as long as he's cute right?
Not interested in how cute he is. But no sympathy for someone who is responsible for denying care for patients.
Man, these people need to look up 'read the room'
What? unprofessional, unacceptable.
I want everyone to go after UnitedHealth for blocking people’s treatment. They blocked my insulin resistance treatment and I had to pay $4000 for my breast biopsy, but this was the wrong thing to study. This autism “treatment” is literally gay conversion therapy applied to autism. It doesn’t work.
In mourning my ass... Cut throat Piranhas don't mourn, they jockey for a new position up the ladder.
They literally stepped over his corpse at 730am to hold the meeting at 8am. They should be ashamed of themselves. Long ago, my friend with a son on the spectrum said "Autism is going to become a class disease. The rich will have all the benefits and the poor will never get the help they need."
The “treatment” is a form of torture. If you support “gay conversion therapy,” you support “applied behavioral therapy.” If you support banning gay conversion therapy, you support banning ABA.
Did I say any of that? No. Did I imply that? No. I simply don't like an insurance company, that bleeds their patients dry for coverage, turn around and deny services a qualified medical professional has deemed necessary. Regardless of what that therapy is. Don't put words in my mouth.
Fuk they are shameless 🤮
Yeah, like so many of their customers. Remind them corporate personhood doesn’t extend to emotional damage.
Shame, shame…
I didn’t know ghouls could be in mourning.
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Insufferable bunch of c—s. 😖
‘Critical treatment for autism’ is how you describe the harmful treatment dished out to autistic children to make them behave like neurotypicals. There is no treatment for autism.
That’s 🐂💩
Bs they went on with that meeting he, was supposed to be at like it was nothing.They just don't give a damn.
"But you shouldn't put me in prison for murdering my parents because I'm an ORPHAN !!!"
(2) about the harm ABA therapy has caused to them. (CPTSD, lifelong anxiety, depression, etc.) A more ethical focal point would be: Why is UnitedHealth making decisions about what is medically appropriate for autistic individuals when they are woefully unqualified to do so?
(1) @mikehixenbaugh.com I know many are eager to expose the unethical practices of UnitedHealth, but this particular matter is a bad example. Despite the author's claim that ABA is the "evidence-based gold standard" for treating autism, #ActuallyAutistic individuals have been very forthcoming
I spent a while in the 70s and 80s at a "special school" in MA for autistic people that promised my mom they'd make me "not autistic." I still have scars from the electrocutions, and still deal with the phobias, depression and anxiety caused by the long periods of seclusion and "silent treatments.".
I'm deeply sorry they did that to you. You deserved compassionate care, not torture to make you "normal." I can't even imagine how awful that was for you to endure.
They sure are. Not for the CEO but for their invisible comfortable life.
the only thing UHC's 'mourning' is the fact Americans are waking up to the horror of their healthcare system and the next step's either big positive changes or more people acting out French Resistance Style
Ah…the old “how dare you politicize this tragedy” ploy. “now is not the time” etc etc.
As their own internal vultures circle for the spoils.
How many of their decisions have killed customers? There was no mourning for them!!!
Hey guess what Trump is seen as by half the country
Confusing mourning for shock and fear.
“Thoughts and prayers” fellas.
I wonder who the next ceo is?
Unless you're the widdow, the mourning period was over when the meeting started on the 4th.
It's this kinda ridiculous "WTF BS" that will lead to the uprising of Robin Hoods ahem, "Merry Men", to finish the job! 🤨
If it was their kid believe me it would be urgent.
They should hire these ladies. youtu.be/kJUQxelrZX4
WTF?!?!?
We are feeling that struggle UHC has now sent a declination letter to not cover his Dulera inhaler any more $460 a month for us. Life saving medication DENIED! 😩😭
They suddenly give a single F about the sanctity of human life? Claim DENIED.
I’m sure they all cancelled their ski trips and office parties as well.
They didn’t even cancel the meeting the dead CEO was going to that morning
They, literally, walked right past his bleeding corpse.
UnitedHealth: “too soon”
Who do they think they are? Queen Victoria?
Mike baby it's absolutely not "a critical treatment for people with autism" and I really wish reporters would stop framing it that way, when a significant chunk of autistic people have reported from experience that it is literal torture
I know journalism has been declining in quality but this is really just unconscionable
What they are reporting is abuse in the name of ABA therapy. Real ABA therapy does not include these abusive practices such as withholding basic needs until a child produces results.
"Real ABA" originally used electric shocks to force compliance, and the technique was eventually adapted to become conversion therapy. The practice you're talking about is the aberration. The real thing IS abusive. www.researchgate.net/publication/...
Too soon, eh? Why don't you send your thoughts and prayers along after next 10 school shootings, you fucking bastards.
ABA is child abuse
Delay.Deny.Deflect
And yet they can write NYT op eds full of platitudes and BS in an attempt to paint the company's laser focus on profits over people as somehow benevolent. 💩
They're mourning so they can't make sure they're not hurting kids? If they put their personal suffering so much above others then why are they in healthcare?
Did anyone follow up and ask what they're in mourning about?
United Health Care's word isn't worth it's weight in 💩.
“We are in mourning.” So are many of their customers.
As are hundreds of thousands of your victims, you sick fucks.
The absolute cowardice displayed by these pieces of shit is really something to behold.
They are gross. If they can still hold their meeting, they don’t actually care about mourning.
The “treatment” is autism conversion therapy (under a benign-sounding name). It’s like gay conversion therapy, which is outlawed in many places. The “treatment” is abusive. Denying coverage is actually the right thing to do.
Yeah. I wouldn't want UHC to cover conversion therapy for kids either. This is not the thing to be outraged about.
I'm with you, but what about non conversion therapy that's billed as conversion therapy? ABA is the only therapy most insurance covers
That is a problem indeed. All this proves however is that insurance companies know jack shit about healthcare. They could easily include other therapies under their plans as they include ABA now.
They need to drop ABA and include a whole swathe of mental healthcare for all kinds of people. ABA is a problem outside of insurance too, though. Autism Speaks is the biggest part of the problem as they are seen as the authority, but are closer to a hate group.
Sure. That doesn't mean children should be subjected to it. It just means that autism and related things need to have treatments brought up to date in general. ABA is still bad. UHC is just doing good by accident with this
ABA isn't conversion therapy - that's disinformation. No one in my practice or anywhere I have seen is trying to convert anyone. Imho it's deeper misunderstanding of the science of behavior which studies all people and how we learn, and assumptions about what standard ABA practices actually are.
Are you not aware of the history of ABA
Certainly am!
Apparently you are not. The Lovaas technique, created to force compliance from autistic children using electric shocks, was the foundation of conversion therapy. The Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis published a rebuke of the usage in 2020. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10....
Electric shocks were stopped being used decades ago. Medical doctors also did a lot of bad shit in the past but we don’t reject them all today.
Acknowledging that negative reinforcement has fallen out of favor: how do you mitigate the harms of positive reinforcement, when the reinforcement is in the direction of enforcing neurotypical behavior?
(How do you, personally, in your practice, do so?)
In mourning? They should be in jail.
Have to have a Soul to mourn
In the early days of the pandemic, GP partners (senior family physicians) had to submit a ‘business continuity plan’ that would ensure our office services were not disrupted in the event of all the senior clinicians dying of covid.
They are cowards hiding behind their dead CEO. Empathy is unnecessary care, Witty.
I wonder if UnitedHealth canceled their holiday parties during this time of mourning. Or if this time of mourning only applies to being held accountable for their policies regarding patients.
Would be interested to know what this time of mourning looks like in practice! It’s not like they can pause their work
They're wearing black armbands?
Are they in mourning and stop business when patients denied care die?
I wonder what their bereavement policy is like.
Corporations are not human.
But they are legally people! Thanks Supreme Court!
Equivalent of thoughts and prayers, and it's too soon to talk about legislation after a mass murder.
How convenient and what BS, heard the informed board members all made it on time to their meeting the morning he was shot.
The people who blithely walked past his bloody corpse, and held a board meeting while he was still in the street Are in mourning
Now imagine if instead of the guy they worked for it was your child who you bought insurance for
Translation: mourning = hiding with an excuse.
They’re not in mourning! They’re up to the same old shit. No sympathy here.
Yeah, and YouTube is erasing the "likes" on this sweet protest song. Make it go viral. youtu.be/J_swGiAHhbQ?...
"Won't someone PLEASE think of our poor shareholders!"
I keep wondering whether corporate executives have any children...
Yes, but their wives take care of them in another house so the fat cats aren’t troubled!!!
What they consider urgent is the whole fucking problem
"Please respect our privacy during this difficult time by shutting up and dying quietly. Thank you."
Appropriate sympathies for them.
We are in mourning? ALL OF YOU?! Everyone knew Brian personally? “Non urgent”. I think it’s HELLA urgent to folks with autism and their families!
Mourning their reputation. lmfao.
Oh BS
They had no problem going on with the investor meeting though
In mourning for their CEO, but never a thought to those their coverage denials have killed. Neither should be happening.
Maybe stop over diagnosing autism.
What are they actually mourning? The drop in stock? Or they had to replace another murderer
Companies do not mourn.
unsurprising they said: DENIED
LOL: they stepped over a pool of his blood to hold that investor meeting as-scheduled. They would need FEELINGS to be able to mourn. 🙄
But one is about their profits while the other is about . . . Oh wait.
Holy crap, they're just recycling "this is not the time" from every damn school shooting ever.
@JustinElliot and @jesseeisinger are useless human beings just wasting our oxygen supply. ProPublica is as reliable as the National Inquirer. My dogs pile of 💩has more brains cells in it than that of the combined staff of inept reports at ProPublica!
UnitedHealth taking a personal day for self care
Yeah, right.
Never dismiss an opportunity provided by a dead CEO
Mourning? Their CEO? 🤣🤣🤣
Mourning their stock price
They are so full of shit.
Would you consider adding #AltText to your text image?
I have a feeling that mourning period is going to last an awful long time.
🤦♂️
I hate to have to side with United Healthcare of all fucking bullshit, but they’re right to deny care for applied behavioral analysis. It isn’t “critical care”. It’s just child abuse. Fuck ABA. It isn’t medicine.
How can we use this to milk sympathy and deflect scrutiny?
pussies
The only loss they're mourning is their sense of security. Good.
"the loss of a sense of security." Welcome to the new world.
What about all the families who lost loved ones due to treatments being canceled because of insurance denials
They’re in hiding, actually.
Oh come on
Omg
Ah, yes. I forgot. A corporation can mourn, cry, and be depressed. They're humans just like the rest of us! 🤡
You’re a fucking hospital, mourning is part of the fucking job you fucking idiots.
“This isn’t the time to fix health care’s enormous problems! We’ve been sad for a week.” See how this always works? Delay, Deny, Deflect.
Capitalism sucks.
As many clients they represent!
If they cant see the underlying anger Mangione's actions resonate with then all bets are off and the beatings will continue the prices will continue to increase and what is covered by med ins prviders will be further reduced...
Fxxk that. Hope they’re scared, just like the parents of the autistic children.
UNRELATED!?!??!
ok but what is treatment for autism? how do you even cure that bro
Cowards. They need to either stand behind the decision and defend it or say they made a mistake and fix it. No comment is very much a comment and they need their feet held to a fire.
They stepped over his body to have their meeting just like the good little corporate gerbils they are. So this is baloney. They don’t mourn anything. To do so means they would have to have feelings
OK but adult autistic people do not support ABA, and say it is harmful.
It IS harmful.
Not all. Some received abuse in the name of ABA therapy. My son received ABA and it was wonderful.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
By “mourning “ they mean destroying evidence.
Or merely an ass to mouth bowel movement.
HEALTH CARE FOR ALL and all for one would someone please help me see why it works all around the world but won’t work for you and me? I know healthcare is big business; A big business that’s quite healthy but does it care about your health or MAKING ITS INVESTORS WEALTHY?
It’s a for profit company. They care about the bottom line. We see what has happened in the USA and that is why attempts to copy your ‘world class medical care’ and replace the NHS fail.
They'll use any excuse. They're well practiced at that.
When you are so fundamentally terrible that every attempt to assert your humanity is immediately followed with "But you ignored the similar humanity of millions of people for profit."
“We are sad, so you’re not allowed to ask us about why ruin people’s lives.”
BS
Mourning isn't covered by your policy.
IN UHC defense, the research (RCT) does not support the behavioral claims of it being effective. There is a fantastic meta-analysis from 2019 on this topic. Behaviorism can also cause therapy induced social, language, and speech disorders. Autistics call it traumatic, abusive, ableist.
"Mourning"? LOL.
Bullshit.
"We're in mourning for our market capitalization", more like.
Mourning, Noon or Night, they still won't take accountability. Deny, Defend, Depose.
That’s so weird… Insurance companies have no problem having their policy holder’s harassed and obsessively contacted by hospitals who are demanding payment for services they refused to cover while they’re mourning the death of *their* loved one 🤔
Nice try assholes!
What’s their bereavement policy? I bet nothing for a coworker/friend, 3 days for a major relative. Time to get back to work.
It's well past a week, too.
Now is not the time to discuss sensible gun control.
