There are so many African countries trying to criminalize the existence of LBGTQ people even with the death penalty. Why is that even a priority given literally everything else that could be focused on? 🤦🏿
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Evangelical missionaries coming to power under Trump and could possibly cut off aid to those countries if they don't comply to "doctrine"
sep 3, 2025, 10:59 am • 0 0 • view
They've been on this wave for decades. These African countries are making these decisions for themselves. Burkina Faso, for example, is one of the latest to do it and the US doesnt really have a relationship with them.
sep 3, 2025, 11:04 am • 2 0 • view
LGBT was pretty normal in Africa for centuries until American evangelicals went over and said “nah gayness is bad” so they’re really not making these decisions themselves. This is American evangelicals influencing their decision-making. Once again, American evangelicals ruin the world.
sep 3, 2025, 11:25 am • 1 0 • view
Its true that homosexuality is a European colonial import but its also true that African people have agency and can think for themselves. They've resisted a lot of other European colonial influences or shed them in the wake of their independence movements. Why not their anti-homosexual beliefs?
sep 3, 2025, 11:37 am • 0 0 • view
May the God-Emperor show you the True Path and the ignorance of your ways.
sep 3, 2025, 3:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Homophobia is a European import. Not homosexuality. Homosexuality is as natural as the trees and grass. Homosexuals have existed long before your ancestors and mine. Homophobia is unnatural. Homosexuality is natural. Never forget that as long as you fear gays, you’re just another uncle ruckus.
sep 3, 2025, 3:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Look at it like this: ask a religious black Christian/Muslim this question sometime: “if God made the universe, and gays exist in the universe, how do you know God didn’t make the gays? Maybe God made the gays as a test for you to love your neighbor, and you’re failing the test.”
sep 3, 2025, 12:17 pm • 0 0 • view
They'll argue "God made Satan too. Doesnt mean he shouldn't go in the lake of fire."
sep 3, 2025, 12:20 pm • 0 0 • view
That sounds right…
sep 3, 2025, 12:22 pm • 0 0 • view
Because the history of homophobia can be traced directly to the history of evangelical missionaries going to Africa and spreading those homophobic beliefs into Africa. Not saying Africans can’t think for themselves, but in this example, they’re not.
sep 3, 2025, 12:11 pm • 0 0 • view
How do you know they dont agree with what the Europeans are doing? How do you know they didnt see what the Europeans were doing and said "You know what? They got the right idea on that." There is an inconsistency in which things are resisted and which things are not.
sep 3, 2025, 12:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Cuz of money and culture. They want to be like the Americans, and the evangelicals paint a picture of success while hating the gays.
sep 3, 2025, 12:18 pm • 0 0 • view
But what about the African countries going the opposite direction? Are they not subject to the same influences?
sep 3, 2025, 12:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Particularly S. Africa, which is already prone to resist American influence because of their closer ties to Russia or China, but also because of their mistrust of Western European culture.
sep 3, 2025, 12:26 pm • 0 0 • view
i.e. thinking for themselves which is my point. You are trying to argue that no matter what, positive or negative, African nations can't form their own opinions and beliefs without being essentially puppeteered by some non-African country and I'm trying to push you to examine that thinking.
sep 3, 2025, 12:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Probably, but I’m sure you’ve had these arguments before, not all Africans are an ideological monolith. They’re prone to disagreement amongst each other.
sep 3, 2025, 12:22 pm • 0 0 • view
But that's the point. Africans *are* thinking for themselves on the homosexuality issue too. They aren't just being puppeteered by European powers. There is disagreement between African countries on what should be resisted and what should not be.
sep 3, 2025, 12:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Also its important to note some African countries have gone the opposite direction. For example, South Africa, Botswana and Angola, have decriminalized LGBTQ practices or enacted protective policies. What's different about them?
sep 3, 2025, 12:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Angola and S. Africa have always tried to resist imperial influences. Botswana, that one surprised me. Not sure about Botswana.
sep 3, 2025, 12:21 pm • 0 0 • view
So why listen to them? If aliens came down from the sky and said "we're going to criminalize having green eyes", why would anybody listen?
sep 3, 2025, 1:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Because money
sep 3, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Money? It costs nothing to defend people and ignore bigotry. Likewise it pays nothing to be a bigot.
sep 3, 2025, 7:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Ignoring bigotry is the opposite of defending people. Defending people is calling out bigotry wherever it exists. Anti-lgbt laws are bigotry. For any black person to defend bigotry is hypocrisy. And for any white person to spread bigotry is condemning our culture to an even deeper pit of hell.
sep 3, 2025, 7:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Ignoring CALLS TO BE BIGOTED oh my god. And it goes beyond any singular races. Only idiots and monsters are bigots because someone told them to be.
sep 3, 2025, 7:39 pm • 0 0 • view
And yeah, you could get mad at me for saying that shit, but my brother in Cthulhu, I need you to understand, I’m incredibly embarrassed and ashamed of white Americans right now, I live in a constant state of rage and shame cuz of white America cuz my people fucking suck. They’re all fuckin stupid.
sep 3, 2025, 11:29 am • 1 0 • view
They’re trying to be white. The American evangelicals taught them that. So Africans are trying to be white. Just uncle ruckuses.
sep 3, 2025, 11:22 am • 1 0 • view
Because people are god obsessed ?
sep 3, 2025, 6:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Feel the same. The world’s population is extremely varied and esp since civilization started on the African continent… we/they need to accept who people are The shaumen, medicine men, witches and sexually ambiguous folks are part of human culture.
sep 3, 2025, 2:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Because American evangelicals like the Heritage Foundation gave them money to do it.
sep 3, 2025, 10:59 pm • 1 0 • view
That isn't accurate. The anti-homosexuality bills in some of these countries are *very* popular with the public, and you can be sure all those people didn't see a dime.
sep 3, 2025, 11:42 pm • 0 0 • view
There are many articles talking about it.
sep 4, 2025, 1:30 am • 0 0 • view
I’m sure they are very popular. Colonialism is awful. But there are evangelicals in the US that have been courting many of these countries, encouraging them to do it, and it wouldn’t surprise me if some leaders were given money to do or for doing it. Evangelicals are the worst.
sep 4, 2025, 1:25 am • 1 0 • view
The great us vs them distraction
sep 3, 2025, 11:02 pm • 1 0 • view
African elites are trying to distract attention from their rapacity and complicity in the suffering and marginalization of working class Africans. Not trying to downplay whats going on in Ghana, Burkina Faso, Uganda etc- but its also important to note this is a global phenomena.
sep 4, 2025, 5:30 pm • 5 3 • view
You make a great point
sep 4, 2025, 5:31 pm • 0 0 • view
It is in part due to the Christian religion imposed on the conquered. And the continuation of the colonisers “education” of people they consider inferior.
sep 3, 2025, 1:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Big part of it. But to be clear Christianity and Islam was there before the Europeans got there.
sep 3, 2025, 1:22 pm • 1 0 • view
Because people are stupid and malicious and want to encourage hatred so they can use that to get away with whatever they want, and idiots scoop it up because it makes them feel powerful for some reason. Put all bigots down. No mercy.
sep 3, 2025, 2:00 pm • 1 0 • view
Religion accommodates the hypocrisy- the ‘instruction manuals’ contain enough ambiguity that interpretations can be manipulated to justify any and all actions.
sep 3, 2025, 2:16 pm • 0 0 • view