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New York could gerrymander another three (D) seats if they wanted to be super aggressive about it. The map that the Court of Appeals struck prior to the 2022 midterms was 22-4, favoring Dems, and the current delegation is 19-7.
@govpritzker.illinois.gov
OR can add 1. We were generous last redistricting & created 1 GOP seat. It’s gotta go. Nothing else matters
Our state sends Dems to congress but the gop is in charge by a large majority in the state. The state gop can’t wait to re-district this fall to ensure an all red delegation in DC.
This is getting ridiculous. National strike NOW!
This is all or nothing.
I am so sad to live in Ohio. We are not a red state we are a terribly gerrymandered purple state. The Ohio government has a super majority. My hope is on Sherrod Brown for Senate. Sorry about JD Vance and Jim Jordon. That's Ohio's shame.
I believe Oregon has one and it should be an easy one to get.
It is time for all of us to vote against the GOP to send a message that this is not acceptable. Really, I would get rid of all maps. Give each person a representative and all US citizens to votes on the bills brought forth. Put we the people back in control.
Blue State Governors need to just be automatically stepping up to the plate and follow Gavin NEWSOM'S Lead!... Damnit!... This isn't Rocket Science!
Colorado is getting ready - there's gonna be a petition to get it included in the 26 election
I worry you are playing this like a path to a draw. It’s not. If Rs go through with this in multiple states, you can’t get enough seats to match it.
May i humbly suggest the play should be to make them nervous to restrict by identifying the new red areas most negatively affected by Trump policy and get the message to those specific places that this older, more extremist Trump Presidency has hurt them. Make the redistricting a liability for them.
Or just sue Texas and take it to the Supreme Court, and see if they vote that it is illegal to redistrict when voter calculations are not reflective of the census population.
You can try that… but do you have much faith in a Supreme Court that has a majority placed by the Federalist Society?
In Ohio it was passed for Republicans Independent and Democrats to redistrict this time. A nonpartisan committee. After the Trump GOP they just threw out the vote on the ballot. Only the GOP drew the new maps. Democrats are suing. Special elections didn't happen for local and state issues.
Needs to be just part of the strategy. Obviously don't put all the eggs in this basket and wait around hoping they hatch.
That's guaranteed to fail about 100%
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If only folks who can move (those who work remotely etc.) would move to those empty states. The Dakotas for example.
New Jersey’s redistricting committee comprises 6 Democrats and 6 Republicans despite the 9D-3R Congressional split.
American voters are going to have to figure out who is for and against them. If they can't, there is not much more we can do.
This👆!!!!
Washington? Oregon?
Fight fire with fire!
#oregon surely we can turn that one R seat blue, no? @tinakotek.bsky.social wanna improve your reelection chances?
Already contacted. Her response is to do nothing. A special election would have to be held to overturn the commission which oversees representation districts every ten years like California.
I don’t think this districting thing will work for Repubs. Many, too many Repubs have turned away from Trump. O hope it backfires on his regime big time.
Unfortunately @governorwalz.mn.gov won’t do that. Disappointing.
Come on Washington State!
Well, technically, there's four more we could drum up.
Cali needs to go for nine. Why stop at five? Makes no sense. Do you want to win or not?
This should not be a thing. Trump is an idiot
They have to figure out a way to squeeze more seats out of CA & NY. Maybe if they knew what they were doing they could get Boebert of CO. She reps a wealthy, educated part of the state outside of Denver. It shldn't be red & w/the right messaging from Dems, maybe it wldn't be.
Texas purged over a million Democrat votes. Had Texas not cheated trump would have never received the 270 required Electoral votes.
Every governor in those blue states are pussies. How pathetic are you have to be afraid of another pussy?
California started. Governors from blue states need to continue.
This is also why it's critical for democrats to stop acting like asshats and start acting like they care about something other than corporate $. There are purple states and districts that could flip just by virtue of how much Republicans suck but Dems are always doing everything wrong.
I'm in one of those purple districts and it can be flipped if everyone, including the do nothing corporate lackey branch of Democrats and the DNC, actually work for it.
Seriously, this is horsesheet. Make gerrymandering illegal. Oh fork, I forgot. Congress and the Constitution are powerless. Now we're gleefully supporting two wrongs to make a right?
So ridiculous we have to do this. But we will. The blame is all on Texas and their sucking of Trump's backside.
Trumpy told Maga votes he needed 100 seats. Crazy.
Oh, and release the Trumpstein coverup.
I also believe that at least in Texas, a really good Democrat could win in some of the newly watered-down districts. But it needs to be someone who can fight hard enough.
Every blue state needs to make as many blue seats as possible. Don’t maintain the status quo. Exceed the need. If they get five more seats, we change ten! Take the fu€king House!
Exactly!! Where are other blue states? Where are other elected democrats? @kenmartin.bsky.social is sleeping at the wheel without a single idea how to fight.
California's not enough but it's a start. It's possible that other states will consider fighting fire with fire and gerrymandering. In the long run Voter suppression and Republicans cheating to win It's got to stop that. Other issues like Citizens United and term limits have to be addressed. Vote.💙
Here is the UNKNOWN.. if you redistrict in TX and people so pissed off they vote out TRUMPS party.. as so pissed OFF... OUCH.
Have to run 1-1 opponents in all races, need 435 democrats running in every house seat in every state, people are pissed off, they will need to vote Blue...
Too bad Democrats didn't fight harder for voting rights under Biden, Obama, Clinton...
Well, this sucks.
Do we even have enough Blue States for this?
NJ can too. What about Mass?
Last chance to save our democracy. It’s really that urgent! 2028 will be too late!
Agreed. I think IL and NY are already on board. But I think by the time the election rolls around, things will be so bad that Republicans will be losing formerly solid red districts as well. Still need to do the redistricting wherever possible.
Mr. Mossberg time. We did it vs. the Nazis in WWII. The Nazis are in the USA's White House now and in the streets, masked with no id or warrant. I know what to do. Do you?
Ohio literally made a constitutional amendment to stop gerrymandering. GOP has constantly ignored it.
California could draw its map to erase all 9 Republican seats. They’re only going after 5 seats as a tit for tat with TX. Very bad idea. They need to go after all 9.
This whole thing must be one of the most idiotic things about US politics I've had to hear about.
NY has a good chance of flipping a couple seats in addition to any redistricting that might happen.
Pretty sure NY is locked in.
I thought NY could get as many as 4? They should only do the number required to null and void what the red states are taking, like CA's 5 to TX's 5.
california up to 5 seats>? hell no, take 10, we need them. & the other blue seats need to stop fckng around & get to work.
Honestly, at this point why are we still expecting there to be a free and fair election? Perhaps it is best that the USA split. Blue states live by the right virtues and red states live under fascism. The great migration II.
Done! @tinakotek.bsky.social in Oregon has been contacted by many of us!
@tinakotek.bsky.social Not sure what the hold up is. More seats is more seats. We can, at minimum, null a red state. Let’s do this!!
Thank you.
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Dems need to relearn how to fight a freaking war. Tit for tat does not win wars. What wins wars as FDR and Truman did is to completely crush the enemy into submission.
The US completely crushed Germany and Japan during WW2 killing hoards of their citizens and today, they are our friends! WTF have Dems been afraid of to use power to defeat the damn enemy?
Be aware, between the redistricting, and the national guard going out -- either one of those are opportunities for civil war. One could say we're in a Cold Civil War already
My brother & I both wrote to Gov. Shapiro (PA) today.
Spanish civil war?
@governor.ny.gov Let’s fight!
@tinakotek.bsky.social @governorferguson.bsky.social
Can we back up and talk about how the last census was FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO AND NONE OF THIS WORKS LIKE THIS.
This is so depressing. We have to act corrupt to save our Democracy.
@govpritzker.illinois.gov !
CA should gerrymander the crap out of the state. I say we increase it to 12 seats.
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Redistrict all you want - Eggs will be triple 2024 price by then. The people will vote out any Republicans that support Mango Mussolini's policies.
Every Blue State should be doing this, no questions asked.
Damn…I live in Red Utah!!!!! I wish…
Abbott has oppressed voters for decades in Texas, thank you California! Please, Blue States, join us in this fight for democracy! Everything is at stake!
Wisconsin had two, until our fucking "liberal" Supreme Court refused to hear our case. Yeah, I'm furious, too.
Not to mention flippable districts too! Also, Texas might make their districts so thin that they end up losing seats? 🤞
Let’s get moving.
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I think some Republicans will not vote for Dumpy this time.
Indiana will try and steal 2 seats for Trump in Gary and indy !
Republicans rigging the elections in red states + Trump making mail in elections illegal = Clearly Schumer needs to send a strong worded letter to Trump saying its not polite to do this
I’ve already reached out to my Governor here in Washington state. Dems don’t have a supermajority and our districting is done by an independent body. Not sure what’s possible, but I keep asking him for action.
Good--suggest that he talk to Newsom...we have the same thing in CA and are working around it, and he might get some pointers.
our governor has to realize that she can no longer triangulate her way out of these issues. The GOP means to kill us all. Making sure they can’t be dislodged is one step.
Why are there still red states? He didn’t bankrupt them enough yet?
Let me take a shot at it: 1) MAGAs are losers, also dumb & easily led. 2) Inability to connect dots A & B. 3) ALWAYS someone else’s fault for their sorry lot in life. 4) Racism/hatred ALWAYS more important than their own poverty & shitty lives. 5) NO clue that billionaires are the ultimate winners.
We also need some of the people in these red states to step up! Show pride in America! Vote Democratic in 2026 and 2028 to save our Democracy! As for the diehard GOP and MAGA who want Democracy to die, I'm sure Putin would love more grist for his meat grinder in Ukraine, like the guy from TX. 🤔
How can Ohio the people voted against gerrymandering yet they do nothing to fix the maps.
Democrats need to unite in saving Democracy. Take no prisoners, the fight is on!
Gonna have to purge all the fake democrats who lick billionaire and israel boots all day long first
Fight fire with fire. It's about time! 👍💯
Forget 'possible' - go for the extreme and 'impossible'!
Step up Washington Step up Oregon
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Done
This problem that’s being created proves that gerrymandering is not an effective way to represent people. Gerrymandering has always been away for politicians to choose their voters rather than voters to choose their politicians.
The discussion here in New York is that we may be hampered by having appointed an independent commission to oversee distracting. Doing the right thing seems to be biting us in the butt.
I know it’s a dirtier trick but putting out robocalls telling people it’s illegal to vote while being behind on child support might have an interesting result in Texas.
Really? I didn’t know that. Dems need to play dirty and do the robocalls, tv, radio ads and billboards.
Gloves off. Until sanity returns, all is fair.
Yep.
Let's fight fire with 🔥 fire!!
It is important that we share accurate information. Democratic states have spent years making it harder to gerrymander as GOP states have been making it easier. It is reporting that New York, for instance, wouldn’t have the time to do all the steps necessary before the ‘26 election.
We have at least a couple seats that could turn in Wisconsin. 5 of 8 congressional districts are Republican.
Quindi quanti può rubare Trump? È anche possibile ottenere abbastanza per vincere?
Anyone have a template letter?
If red states are just going to keep rigging the game, forcing blue states to follow suit, how are any voters supposed to have basic faith in the stability of the system?
?pennsylvania?
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Because if that doesn’t work, taking back the country is going to get really ugly, really fast.
This can be a symbolic soft secession, all blue states and those that were blue must unite. bsky.app/profile/eyky...
In Mass we are maxed out.
im so angry at this BS. Dems need to start doing more tricks im in MA too & im happy to give up my house to create another district. 😉
It’s our population, it keeps dropping. Weaklings keep moving south 🙄
A lot of jobs have moved South because employers want to avoid labor unions.
Agree 💯 with you! 💙💙💙
Decent, honest Rs need to reject the compromised candidates the party foists on them! Pandering to the 🍊🤡 must end!
There are no "decent, honest Rs" Judy, they're all compromised, all helping our country to fall easily into the hands of fascists.
I grew up in a Republican family and county. Married Democrats. Became more involved as I grew up. I know good R people are out there. They’re afraid of the violent ones that have taken over. The NRA paralyzed many.
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Where are these numbers from? VOTE.
Illinois will be on board. Count on it. But since Illinois is already one of most gerrymandered states in the country (done to protect specific legislators in a state with FEWER seats every census), it's going to be really, really hard.
Minnesota is blue....ish. I wonder what @governorwalz.mn.gov decides to do....
Now, HOW can Texas be SURE that the new districts will vote ALL red? Latinos are no longer all that charmed about DJT and his merry band of brownshirts. May it blow up in their faces like a pinata full of detonator caps...
They will just threaten their safety/deportation (despite citizenship) if they attempt to visit a poll. Combine with their plan to eliminate mail-in ballots and voilà.
I read that NY laws prohibit them from redrawing maps in time for 2026 elections
You're right. An amendment would have to pass two legislatures. Hochul's working on it for 2028 but there's no way to get it done for 2026 unfortunately.
I got my second anti redistricting mailer today. Don’t let the billionaires bankroll this Cali.
I got one yesterday too. Filthy bastards.
Let’s face it - this the beginning of civil war blue against red and it about time
Every blue state governor should be coordinating on this, NOW! Apathy=Death. #BlueRevolution
Split. The. Union. States are essentially doing it anyway. Just agree to it. Do it in an organized, minimally violent way.
They can’t. They hate blue states but without us, they have nothing.
A fight to the finish line...
I live in a freaking red state and all our federal Legislators are Republicans and on the state level the legislature is controlled by a Republican Supermajority. Where is this hellscape? Arkansas. Then we have Sarah Huckster Jr for a Governor.
I feel for you. I have family in your state.
Fuck Missouri.
I don’t mean to be a wet blanket, but the already stacked deck in favor of Republicans means that an escalation of gerrymandering will not end in the Democrats favor. Instead, we need to focus on populous policies to move voters away from the GOP and towards the Democrats
Pocketbook issues like rising prices should be front and center for Democrats. People are feeling the pinch between rising costs and tariffs (another tax) which just got started. Drive that point home.
We can do both.
I like this attitude
Thank you.
If voting is not threatened and like any other election, the house will loose 35-40 GOP seats regardless.
You have to add Wisconsin to that list.. wirh democratic control of their Supreme Court the gerrymandering there will end. That's another 2 to 4 seats..
Hochul said she’s on it-let’s see if she follows thru
Maryland. I am contacting my reps next week and talking to my senators. Time fot us to kick this show of force in high gear.
Radical actionable is needed. The best way for Dems to hurt MAGA is with $$$$$$$$ Blue states need to use their status as DONOR STATES and boycott or withhold $$$$ from federal taxes. Or somehow. $$$$$$$$ TALKS
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California i thought had the potential to get 9 They need to get every seat they can to not leave the regime with such a small gap to close If you are serious about disrupting project 2025 we must be as aggressive as them if not more so
Do it blue states. All of you!!!!
Crickets from the rest of dems
How many red seats can they force at max. Expect them to do so. Make sure to have more. Enough to pass voting rights legislation and get rid of the citizens United decision.
I doubt Jared Polis is up to the task.
I don't believe it is possible to gather one seat here or there especially in competitive states. This is a waste of time.
It pains me that Democratic States have been compelled by a traitorous, pocket stuffing, orange Cankle to take these redistricting steps. But it is the right, and ONLY, thing to do. Once this administration is relegated to the prison that awaits, WE ALL have to fix what allowed this tumor to breath
Don’t think this pack is gonna make it.
What if the population in the five stolen seats were to vote blue?
California has the possibility for 9 new seats... they should utilize all that potential!
In the end gerrymandering can be overcome. By ‘red’ districts voting blue. Part of that will involve registering and turning out the vote.
We’re fucked
@govwesmoore.bsky.social
Washington State could probably add 1 to the mix
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Each one of those red seats offer the opportunity to convince the plebiscite of the value of their vote. Invest. Engage. Bring in the troops.
We don’t have anything in MA I don’t think, we’re super blue. What are the purple states or… I guess red states with democratic governors, right?
This is a mess.
The shame of this is, if democrats were doing what they should be doing, and also campaigning they way they should, they could win the house anyway.
Could just campaign and get people to vote instead of rigging elections.
i'm in MD and i called my state reps.
Cali had the opportunity to take all 9 but despite the maliciousness of the Republican party Gavin still didn't go all in on them... Once Republicans start redistricting other states I'm afraid Gavin will regret not doing so.
The MAGAbillies here in MO are of course fully supportive of it
In OrangeCounty & South county alone there should be at least 10 seats here.
@governorferguson.bsky.social
I expect every red state to steal as many seats as possible.
Democratic states either rise to the occasion or fail the moment. Choose wisely.
It’s not enough. Blue states need to create their own militias…
And fast.
Colorado Pennsylvania Minnesota Connecticut Maryland
PA and MN have divided government (Republicans control at least one house of the legislature while there's a Dem in the governors mansion), don't count on them for help. The other three have Dem trifectas so maybe.
Yeah we have a governor that’s basically libertarian in Co so..
It’s his last term, he should leave fucking up as much as possible for the republicans. Go out swinging.
If only..
And if we elect @philweiser.bsky.social for Governor then we'll have someone willing to fight for us. If we elect Bennet as Governor, it'll definitely not happen.
We had an equally divided state house in MN. Then we had Melissa Hortman's murder. I'm not sure how it will even shake out for the state house. On September 16th there will be a special election will be held to fill her seat.
Same issue in MI.
This. Although PA gop rep Scott Perry just narrowly won against janelle Stelson and she’s running against him again and is leading in the polls. So any attention and $ that can be thrown her way would be great.,
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You're trying to save a dying empire. Fragmentation is the only thing that will fix the issue. OR, WA, CA, HI secede and form Pacifica with a parliamentary system of government.
Colorado, New Mexico NEED to be next!
I'm in Boebert's old district. Jeff Hurd needs to be a one termer.
New Mexico is already 100% blue districts
Then we divide and make add another one. Fire with Fire!
Seats are only added or removed based on the population as determined in the decennial census. A state cannot add or remove seats on its own.
Really tells you how much the commenter knows about all this. 💀 lol
Next time scroll on by. Opinions not required.
Don’t take it in a bad way. Your intentions were good none the less.
Not at all just find it fascinating when people criticize with no alternative suggestions. Maybe time better spent finding a solution instead of negative comments
We’re on the same team here, folks. Let’s be chill with each other.
YUP we are! A good reminder for those criticizing. Time better spent coming up with a better solution.
It would be nice to remove that embarrassment from eastern Colorado.
Well then let's get busy! I'm in AZ, I will help! STRONGER Together!! WHATEVER it takes!
New mexico is all blue already, Colorado for sure though, get rid of Boebert, Washington and
Won’t happen. Polis is a libertarian
But legislature controls, hopefully they see him as a lame duck and move on without him.
NM can squeeze out at least one more seat. Colorado 100% and Vermont as small it is, can squeak out one more too.
Vermont only has one rep and she is a democrat, they can't squeeze out more representives
What part of every Congressional representative in NM is Democrat don't you understand, how do they squeeze one more out.
I would divide a congressional district and ADD another seat. GOP is not playing by rules so we have got to get creative, don't really care how it's done just that we devise something. YOU got any suggestions?
Congress determines how many Congressional representatives each state gets based on the Census, states can't add seats, NM has 3, VT has 1, TX is redrawing the districts, not adding more seats.
NM would be a tight squeeze. We are all blue now…but my district is quite purple (I’m shocked it’s not red actually).
Taos area? Lots of TX and OK $. Planning to move there soon. :) We gotta fight unconventionally. Don't have the answer but willing to keep fighting until we do.
No, not Taos area. It’s beautiful there! I’m in the not beautiful part of central NM haha. Vasquez’s district. But I think with a complete re-draw, we can make 4 effective districts. Why is Bernalillo Cty. split in 2?!?!
You can't add seats, you have 3 seats. Want more seats you need more people to move to NM, like by 2 million more people.
True. We would have to wait for a new census to see if we get ‘allotted’ more. Thanks for bringing me back down to earth. 😊
lol our governor is a piece of shit
Dear Democrats, You only need 1 Elon to win.
This is crazy, how is this even allowed ? I think you need a new amendment that freezes congressional districts. You understand this undermines democracy, right ?
Let’s flip Colorado’s seats all blue remove liar Gabe Evans - embarrassment Boebert - and Hurd who is a gop suck up
I'm in Gabes district. He can't win unless musk cheats for him.
we really can't do ALL the heavy lifting......where's everyone else?
Sad to say we only have one US Representative in VT. Good news she's a Democrat. Stefanik's district is just across the border in NY State. That **** needs to go!
Everyone should be aware that in NY, we apparently can’t redistict in time for the midterms. The earliest, due to the number of legislative sessions required, would be 2027.
They should use the Republican play book, fuck the rules and just do it.
Exactly
I'm ashamed of my state. Indiana, we're not for you.
I wish voters would vote better. GOP must cross party lines and they don’t.
CA-Why stop at 5?!
I wouldn’t be surprised to see zero Republican seats from California in 2026.
It's kind of all for nothing because if the blue states manage to pull it off, he will just find a way to suspend the elections or, at the very least, send his ICE goons to interfere with them. Also, that's 14 fucking months away. It's only been 7 and look what he's destroyed so far! We can't wait!
Look what I got in the mail today, and look where I'm putting it.
The mailer that CALIFORNIA VOTERS received today on redistricting needed a couple of edits. 😎
I haven't heard what the tally is for Dems vs rethugs if both sides go whole hog. Max out. Take it as far as they can in every state. Who wins?
I'm hoping gerrymandered all to hell red states will flip, even if just a few. My state for instance shows up pink/ purple
What would be epic would be if the red states do manage to do that and still lose. Abolish the electoral college!
They may redraw the districts, but it still requires votes to win Time to make a lot of noise & reach the voters within these redrawn districts -- do they want to keep their freedoms & be seen as people or will they just be pawns in Donald Trump's game of checkers? (he's too dumb for chess)
The way some of these town halls have been going maybe some districts will flip to blue.
The Republicans aren't going to successful. Dodging town halls and fucking their constituents is a recipe for getting another job. Do your worst 🤣
WA and OR have any to offer up?
New York is following its state constitution when it comes to redistricting, and the process can’t be completed until 2027 for use in the 2028 elections. Changing the map for the 2026 midterms would require breaking the law, so don’t expect any changes in New York before then.
Its why 2024 was the last free and fair election America will have. By 2028, its done. America is finished as a democracy, and is now sliding headlong towards dictatorship. You either stand up to that, or accept it.
So, are you suggesting that the New York Governor and legislature should ignore the state constitution’s process to dissolve gerrymandering and just say they aren't going to follow the constitional process? I’m just trying to understand what point you’re making.
We’re screwed.
I think the one thing we are overlooking- Dems have a chance to 15% OUTPERFORM in former Red/Swing districts. There are a couple dozen of those.
Yes. They have overperformed in about 3 dzn races nationwide so far. Democrats should not take their foot off the gas. Pocketbook issues: Tariffs driving up costs = rising Grocery prices Unaffordable housing prices are worse due to inflation rates due to tariffs. Unaffordable/Non existing Healthcare
Agree 100 percent, but the media is totally missing the swing districts in BLUE and RED STATES that had gone for Trump, and Trump only. Normally up for grabs or blue. If we work hard, these will be BLUE next year. Right, Don Bacon?
Forget the media. This is going to be won with a ground game.
Yes, the ground game. Mass protests, people in the streets. I am addicted to reading all the good content behind the headlines, the massive content in the digital NYT on any given morning. The news section cowers and chisels around the edges of the obvious. I can ignore it or I can cancel.
Aside from the protesting there needs to be a concerted effort to get anti-regime candidates elected. That’s going to require grassroots door-to-door efforts. The media is not going to assist. At all. We also have to collectively get over the desire to have ‘perfect’ candidates.
Not letting perfect be the enemy of good is going to be extremely difficult for many people, and a big mess is going to be made in the process. But it will be a fairly easy to repair mess, vs what happens if the fascists consolidate power.
Good news is TX Repubs are worried about losing seats if Trumps economy and corrupt government keeps going south. Not talking about Cancun, Ted.
There's more than 5 seats possible in Cali.
Gerrymandering may not get it done but the campaign will have so much ammunition. The DNC better have 20 close seats targeted, regardless of state. Here, Dem Marie Glusenkamp-Perez is already under fire from the Republican machine. Tough district.
We're in
Will all this gerrymandering in red states work, with everything that’s happening? Will the R voters stay home and quiet quit on the GOP?
Wish Wisconsin State Supreme Court wouldn't continue to throw Wisconsin voters under the bus.
MARYLAND?
This is so wrong.