He doesn't need to build a movement. He can just buy some existing congressmen to switch from republican to his party. His stated goal is to become a "spoiler vote" to force concessions from Trump, nothing more.
He doesn't need to build a movement. He can just buy some existing congressmen to switch from republican to his party. His stated goal is to become a "spoiler vote" to force concessions from Trump, nothing more.
Just want to apologize to everyone I've ever had a debate with over Newsom. He sucks, i get it, its never going to change that hes been bought. My bad.
Two things...Musk is definitely not a genius AND Newsom is a narcissist
He's not a genius, he's just good at stealing people's ideas. How can people still not see that?
Allistics suck at discerning reality from marketing.
These days we label narcissistic sociopaths as "geniuses" simply because they have zero morals or conscience inhibiting them when they "move fast and break things" at the expense of the lives and well being of others. That's why they hate petty things like regulations designed to protect people.
That does not make one a genius. I push back every time I hear someone say Elon is a genius. The first thing I say is why. Why is he a genius? He invented tesla, no he didnt. He took daddy's money and bought someone elses work. SpaceX again, money. He doesn't supply the smarts for any of it, just $$
He's a self promoting VP of Sales who should be in jail for market manipulation among many other crimes.
Just one of the countless reasons Newsom has got to go. Courting the Nazi billionaire tells you EVERYTHING about his policies, positions, and how hard he'll hold to any scruples he might accidentally have.
Right?! The guy who ran DOGE into our government, yet he’s been Musk’s biggest advocate and fan?
'Mr Musk, you don't need to waste all that time and energy on a new party. Just give it to me instead!'
Newsom: "I'm for sale and I want and potential rich daddy's to know"
what a fucking pea brain
Musk is utterly irredeemable, there are no admirable qualities whatsoever, the guy is just a loser.
Yeah, I REALLY REALLY hope he doesn’t run for president.
He is bloody all right
Is there an obsequiousness meter? If so, he broke the needle.
Nazi Elon’s “biggest advocate and fan?” Newsom’s vile, transphobic turn is a lot less surprising now.
That’s aside from an American saying “bloody.” Reckon it’s wedgy time for you, m8.
Agreed but man Americans saying 'cunt' is also weird. All the emphasis is in the wrong places so it just sounds cute when they try and it's very funny.
It's one of many crimes punishable by wedgie Jordan Peterson is especially egregiously guilty of. Canadians, despite being Commonwealth are simply far too North American to be saying stuff like 'bloody'.
Err. I say it all the time. It's even in one of our national songs. ("When a bloody great Yankee hove in sight/with our cracked four-pounders we made to fight./God damn them all, I was told...") And I'd throw out Peterson if I had the power to throw people out of Canada.
They also can’t pronounce ‘twat’ to save their lives
Oh yes that one is pretty bad
Trying to get the Jordan Peterson fanboys?
Wedgie feels like an acceptable consequence for politicians, like the People’s Censure.
Bruv
Oi, ‘at chap deserves a proper wedgie
Given the accent you were going for there you should replace 'chap' with 'cunt'
A marked improvement
lmao that was the absolute 1st thing that jumped out at me. like how did that even SOUND when he SAID it. did he do an accent? like a south african accent? do they say "bloody" there
Yeah they do.
whether you like it or not, he's spent a lot of money to look smart, so am i saying he's smart? He wants to put people on mars, that is what he's been saying for years now. Very smart, and they're saying he's the real life tony stark.
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This just makes Gavin look dumb.
The guy leads a nazi website with a nazi chatbot.
lol
If it quacks like a cuck, and walks like a cuck, ladies and gentlemen, it’s a cuck alright.
Newsom (and most politicians): "Let's step carefully here! Can't insult any demographic even a bit lest I lose potential votes or campaign donations" Trump in 2016+: "Everyone sucks and only I am great. Brown people are inferior. Musk would kneel before me he's such a loser lol"
He got the “bloody” part right. Fucking mass murderer.
Democrats are as beholden to capital as Republicans just in a less overt and fascist way. Once we are out of the current crisis they will have to be swept from the board as well or we will be back here the next election cycle.
Genius?! He's never accomplished any of his goals!
Musk is a "genius" in the same way that Jeffrey Dahmer was a chef.
check this dumb fucker for brain worms
Jesus, that feels like 100 years ago and I’d honestly totally forgotten about it
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The more I learn about Gavin Newsome, the less I want to ever hear his name again. But at least I'm beginning to understand how he could ever have been married to what's her name.
What newsom meant by bloody genius is, musk figured out a way to kill so many people and get away with it.
Friendly reminder that Newsom is a vile transphobic cunt. #NeverNewsom
Genius? He's the epitome of a dumb person's idea of a smart person.
I repeat this way too often but I feel like I just have to He once said in an interview he knew he was smart as a child because he had thoughts basically. Like that's his idea of genius, he thinks having thoughts makes him smart, that's it.
Oh great, I had thoughts of a wizard turning the family car into a flying machine. I sure am a genius! If only my parents had an emerald mine, I'd be at least a centimillionaire by now!
Cogito ergo some genius
Musk isn't dumb. SpaceX lands rockets, and that is entirely the result of Musk's vision and leadership. Turns out you can be smart and awful at the same time.
lol, he had money and hired competent people. Doesn’t make him a genius.
in my view, having vision and leadership skills doesn't make one a genius. there are many other business leaders with exactly as much talent as musk, he was just the luckiest of the bunch. and the credit for the reusable rockets should go to the many talented engineers.
Musk's issue isn't that he is incapable of thinking, it's that he's drinking from a poisoned well, in engineering terms: garbage-in, garbage-out. He's uneducated and doesn't know that he's uneducated, and credulously believes the right-wing bullshit that fills his feed.
He is a walking example of Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Fuck off with this "uneducated" excuse. He has enough money for all the education in the world, he can get an education at any time. He just doesn't want to, because he is stupid. I'll repeat: Elon Musk is literally an idiot.
He's much more involved with it though, Musk is deeply engaged in the design process and decisions that go into both SpaceX and Tesla. I think there's a different lesson here: you can be smart and awful. There were lots of smart Nazis, you don't have to be stupid to be evil.
I don't know anything about rockets, but I know the Cybertruck is an absolute poorly-designed failure.
And it’s ALL his. Both his design team and his sales team tried to talk him out of it, and he told them that they were fucking stupid and should shut their mouth. Now it is very likely to be the financial failure that dooms the company that has made him rich. And it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy!
Musk was literally fired from every company he was CEO of. That day is coming soon at Tesla. He is very stupid. He just has a foreign accent and a weirdly intense personal affect and works 100 hours a week and that tricks people into thinking he’s intelligent.
no, he's pretty fucking stupid
I would say being a loud-mouthed, incurious clown very publicly, for over a decade, makes one the opposite of any notion of “smart”
They did that in Destination Moon (1950) and dozens of other movies and TV shows since then! He saw them and stole the idea! youtu.be/R8qqX1d7iDo?...
Ideas aren't special, execution is what matters. People have to realize that being smart doesn't mean people won't think or do awful things. There were lots of smart Nazis. Propaganda works; tell a lie enough times and a large fraction of ANY population will come to believe that lie.
Jesus, are you campaigning to have his 17th kid?
This isn't about redeeming Musk, this is about recognizing that being intelligent doesn't inoculate you against weaponized disinformation. Propaganda works: tell a lie enough times and a large fraction of ANY population will come to believe that lie. It's a technology with reproducible results.
As Don da Con AND MuskRat himself have proven, time and again!
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It’s even true in science.
Einstein said ideas are the most precious proof of intelligence. Ideas are special. Execution is administration. It’s not genius. It’s being rich enough
No, Musk IS dumb, and the success of SpaceX to this point has more to do with the competent engineers and managers he was advised to hire than him. He makes decisions like “I don’t need a safety berm around my launch pad” and then his rocket exploded and caused millions in damages to nearby homes.
Musk isn’t brilliant. And he is more dumb than anything socially and emotionally. But yeah some are smart and also sociopathic. Musk and Trump aren’t that type at all.
Musk is not solving the problems of landing rockets. he provides money, hype, and stability of the company's priorities. He isn't easily put off by test failures. That's not nothing, it has value. But it's not evidence that he's a genius.
By cons’ “logic”, Elon Musk deserves credit for what his company does! By that “logic”, Martin Goodman deserves ALL the credit for Marvel Comics’ success! “Who’s Martin Goodman?”, you may ask? He owned the publishing house Marvel Comics was a part of from creation until the 1970s! 1/2🧵
Yet who do we think of when we think of Marvel Comics? Stan Lee! Jack Kirby! Steve Ditko! Etc! The people who actually DID the work! NOT the guy who simply wrote the checks! THAT’S Elon!
They also believe neither he nor the company should be blamed for his actions.
Exactly
I think everyone needs to watch Knives Out: Glass Onion again. Yeah.
This. And people think it's just being petty or mean to point that out but it's actually important because these assholes are given power based on the myth of their genius.
Newsome is so vile.
Anyone who thinks that Musk is a genius after the last two years disqualifies themselves from being considered a serious individual
*twelve years, at least
It's like in 2025 Newsom is trying to appeal to the people who will never like him by alienating the people who liked him in 2024. I've lost all respect for the man. Hope a better Dem primaries him.
Jesus Christ why are Democrats across the board at high levels such worthless sacks of bootlicking garbage? Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE primary every last one of these motherfuckers? Can you dumbfuck “vote blue no matter who” dipshits please get on board with rejecting this cowardice?
Because the DNC selected for that and has spent 30+ years actively trying to force out anyone who will damage their gravy train
Literally begging people who say dumb shit like this to learn what the DNC actually does.
Youre asking that of the same demographic that authentically believes the “establishment” is so immersed in Washingtons do-nothing event horizon that we should put forward unelectable 25 year old journalism grads just to piss them off, but Bernie would’ve executive order’d M4A.
You’re*
That's the thing. Apart from posturing and capitulation, what DOES the DNC actually do?
The fact he doesn’t know Elon is at his core, a massive idiot and waste of skin, should be disqualifying
Oh he absolutely knows. He's in agreement.
@governor.ca.gov seems to be doing some Clinton-era triangulation BS. Doing the bro-cast tour, giving fascist musk kudos, and…oh yeah… shitting on trans kids. He’s doing a bang up job of trying to reset what it means to be a Democrat. Please stop.
This is why you simply don't have to worry about this dimwit in any dem presidential primary
You can tell when Newsome has someone prepare his speeches for him because he says less stupid stuff like this.
Yikes.
Watch all the centrist dems still defending that one.
Gavin Newsom might have been standing up to Trump, but that's the bare minimum. There's still this adulation of the wealthiest, seeing them as the great icons. Musk benefitted from inherited wealth and a system that rewards those already with wealth. Musk is still a Nazi, not someone to admire.
My god how thick is he?
The worst part is that Elon has already given the middle finger to California and moved to Texas. There is no need to suck up to him anymore.
Newsom/Cuomo/Rahm Emanuel/Bucket of Rotting Snails type Democrats
“Bloody” 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 ☕️
Good god, what the hell is wrong with Newsom?
Who’s gonna vote for the South African apartheid party?
The republicans already hate him so now he’s aiming for over the aisle.
The guy who married Don Jr’s eventual wife and who closed French Laundry for himself during Covid is not really inspiring much confidence
I haven’t been this embarrassed about being so wrong about somebody since I voted for Bernie in the primary, before I realized what a useless douchebag he was. Newsome is aggressively repugnant at this point.
Elon Musk: A Genius for those who are "geared toward the average, rather than the exceptional."
The wolf who ate grandma at least dressed like grandma. What big teeth you have indeed, Gavin.
Yikes
Seems to me that Newsom would be better suited to the Musk Party than the Dems.
Calling Musk a genius is already distressingly out of touch.
I hope Newsom gets pecked to death by an emu.
Did he miss the “riding on others’ coattails” element?
"Bloody?" Is he secretly English, or just trying to sound like Jordan Peterson for some reason?
Can't wait to be scolded for not voting for the guy, despite the fact that I've never been to the US. Look, I'd argue about Lithuanian politics more if it had more of an online presence.
Counterpoint: since the America Party is gonna be an Andrew Yang style absolute failure I welcome ol’ Greasy Gavin to join : )
MUSK. IS. NOT. A. FUCKING. GENIUS. HES. JUST. A. RICH. ASSHOLE.
Good grief
If you call Space Karen "bloody genius", it is a sign that you are very very dumb.
This. Setting aside the cowardice & fawning, I can't trust someone's judgment if they think he's smart. It's disqualifying.
He won't build a grassroots movement. He'll pay people to vote for his candidate. We know this already. I'm sooooo tired of people not just looking at the world and saying what's in front of their nose instead of speculating based on past outdated experience.
We don't have an opposition party. We have an enabling codependent spouse party, the Nazi party and a shadowy grey figure party.
“That guy who killed a quarter million brown kids, ushered Trump into doing detention camps and fired a buncha brown people and women from federal service? Yeah he’s a real cool guy.”
Evil aside (which is asking a lot), how in the hell do you look at ANY of the things Elon has done in recent memory and conclude that he is a genius? Also note the prediction that Elon’s party won’t work, not because he’s a terrible person with terrible ideas, but simply because he’ll get bored.
The governor “softened his tone” because if Elon is going to buy more presidential candidates going forward, Newsom is definitely for sale and wants to be at the front of the line.
Part of me hopes this is all an act because he figured out where the cash is and then straight up announces he hoodwinked all the chuds after he bilks them for fat campaign donations and superpac money. But I doubt it.
He didn’t do that for the insurance industry. Instead he blocked CalCare and fought any changes to insurance codes.
Yeah, I realize that his actual political alignment is the worst flavour of corporate-owned centrist, it's just some of those guys are rainbow-capitalist enough to stay away from anti-trans bigotry.
His political alignment has been suspect & becomes moreso by the day, what we do know is he’s a panderer willing to discard any constituents who don’t enhance his financial or political capital. For instance, homeless people are unpopular, so he regularly makes a conspicuous show of abusing them.
“Rainbow capitalists” are tolerant of trans people to avoid conflict with the mainstream LGBTQ community & only if it doesn’t cost them anything. Trans people are under attack, they need pols to be pro-trans, not “not-anti-trans.” The bare minimum should be solid on human rights, that’s not Gavin.
Gavin Newsom is not only a moron, he’s also the worst kind of Anglophile apparently
You could have stopped after billionaire. There is literally no way you can be a Billionaire and NOT a part of the Elite.
"... no matter who" my ass