This is the attitude that has gotten us where we are. In the face of the death of the American experiment and the fate of the entire planet given this administration, choosing to support transgender people as a line in the sand is incomprehensible.
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Who is next on your list of people who's rights you're willing to sacrifice Gisele? Serious question. Do you only sacrifice trans people? Maybe we can slide that line back past all the LGBTQ+? Women in general? Can we do away with their rights?
aug 24, 2025, 1:46 am • 0 0 • view
How does my supporting Gavin Newsome's taking on TFG translate into sacrificing trans people? Who is actually hurting them? This administration.
aug 24, 2025, 4:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Because when you agree view the fascist framing it gives them leverage to use and go further. Normalizing it only aids the enemy nothing more or less
aug 24, 2025, 4:53 pm • 1 0 • view
You can also add gleefully trashing homeless encampments for reasons Newsom can fuck right off.
aug 24, 2025, 10:44 pm • 1 0 • view
It's for the same reason as UBI. Universal. Either we all have rights and respect inherent to us, or none of us actually do.
aug 23, 2025, 10:28 pm • 5 0 • view
It's not the same at all. UBI is an economic solution. Of course, we all have rights that are being destroyed even as we breathe. The point is HOW do you stop that in the context of what's going on in this coun try? No just with words, but with supporting action.
aug 23, 2025, 10:33 pm • 0 0 • view
It is 100% the same. and the fact that your own generational prejudices are blinding you to that is on you. The way you stop the erosion of rights is that you fight for All of them, even then ones that don't effect you directly. Or have you not read the poem about this?
aug 23, 2025, 10:35 pm • 5 0 • view
Please give me a definition of the word FIGHT. What can you or any one of us DO to stop this frightening, daily erosion of everybody's rights by THIS ADMINISTRATION?
aug 23, 2025, 10:39 pm • 0 0 • view
If you want legal options you can call and write in to your local state and federal representatives and berate them to support the rights of everyone like a real, normal human being would. It's not rocket science. Make them know that they need to support everyone if they want your support.
aug 23, 2025, 11:57 pm • 0 0 • view
You can also join or start a local, state, or federal support group or non-profit working to assist and canvas to get people to understand the importance of fighting for the rights of everyone, not just the ones you don't think of as disposable. You know, like you did for UBI.
aug 24, 2025, 12:01 am • 0 0 • view
I have just so much energy (I'm 89) and my battle right now is to do everything I can to salvage the United States of America. I also don't understand what you mean by "fight." If you're talking about demonstrations, the ones that are most important to me are the "No Kings" events.
aug 24, 2025, 12:10 am • 0 0 • view
Go to those then. You have to make your voice heard so that no one can take your silence to mean compliance or assent. And that means not giving silent assent to Newsom when he throws the rights of any group under the bus because if he does it to them he will do it to you too to get what he wants.
aug 24, 2025, 12:15 am • 0 0 • view
It's hard and it's exhausting, but being silent about the erosion of rights for anyone, even when it isn't directly affecting you is what people who want power for their own purposes want you to be. Because if you don't do it for others then it's easier to convince others to not do it for you.
aug 24, 2025, 12:17 am • 0 0 • view
But I'm guessing that instead you just are looking for a reason to sacrifice the wellbeing of others to support someone who you Think, Might, DO SOMETHING (what that something is is undefined, but supporting them makes you feel better instead of doing something yourself).
aug 23, 2025, 11:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Again, what are YOU doing? Little old me cannot, is not in a position to sacrifice anyone's well being. All I can do right now is fight like hell to stop the nightmare we're in.
aug 24, 2025, 12:13 am • 0 0 • view
Then why are you saying to ignore Newsoms stance about making that nightmare worse for people who aren't you? That's not stopping the nightmare that's just saving yourself from it.
aug 24, 2025, 12:19 am • 2 0 • view
No one is expecting you to lead any charge, they are just begging you to not sacrifice other people's rights for a tiny bit of peace.
aug 24, 2025, 12:21 am • 2 0 • view
I’m guessing civil war
aug 23, 2025, 10:59 pm • 0 0 • view
If he will not support the most vulnerable among us, why would you think he'd stand up for any of us? Whet good is he if he would throw trans people to the wolves? We get to choose who we support. The idea that Newsom is already our only hope is asinine. He needs to earn support, he isn't owed it.
aug 23, 2025, 9:45 pm • 9 0 • view
Have you followed the news lately? Are we going to have an election in 2026? Are we going to see a catastrophic economic downturn that will not only affect the US but the whole world like the Great Depression? Right now, Gavin Newsome is the only voice that is countering this disaster.
aug 23, 2025, 9:50 pm • 2 0 • view
If he is throwing trans people under the bus now, when they are very obviously under attack and need support from the opposition, why would he fight for you or I? Why are they expandable, and why are you so sure you won't be?
aug 23, 2025, 10:09 pm • 8 0 • view
Those are words you're using to describe something that has no meaning. In what way do you think Gavon Newsome would throw trans people or any other minority under the bus? As opposed to how this administration is actually doing it as it speeds along to its way to full blown fascism.
aug 23, 2025, 10:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Did you watch the video that caused the response that you quoted to start this thread? Do you not get why people are responding so strongly to Gavin carrying water for these transphobic talking points and legitimizing them as more reasonable than regular old homophobes?
aug 23, 2025, 10:31 pm • 4 0 • view
This is the exact attitude that lead us to losing in 2024, but replacing Biden with Newsom. We’re 3 years out and have plenty of time to demand more from our politicians. You don’t have to surrender to bigotry at all, much less do so this early.
aug 24, 2025, 12:15 am • 3 0 • view
What other group can be sacrificed for the greater good in your world?
aug 23, 2025, 10:43 pm • 12 0 • view
I don't understand what you mean. What is anyone DOING as this administration is destroying everyone's rights not just any one group.
aug 23, 2025, 10:47 pm • 2 0 • view
If you’re willing to let Trans people die, who’s next? Black people? The disabled? Gay? Homeless? The Irish? Muslims? Hispanics? Where’s your line? Let me guess: You. The only line you have is your own life.
aug 23, 2025, 10:51 pm • 8 0 • view
Who is killing and potentially killing these people now? The current administration. You and I are not in charge. The only thing we can do to save us all is CHANGE THE ADMINISTRATION.
aug 23, 2025, 11:18 pm • 1 0 • view
Agreed. But the only way we’re going to do that is if we find someone who supports everyone, not just the ones you feel are worth it.
aug 23, 2025, 11:32 pm • 0 0 • view
And when the Democrats are in charge, are you gonna fight for trans people then? No, you won’t because you’re not willing to fight for them now. You don’t care, you just don’t want to know about it.
aug 23, 2025, 11:36 pm • 4 0 • view
Once again, what do you mean by "fight for them?" I certainly support all people's personal choices (I have a lesbian daughter and a trans grandchild and I love them both dearly). But this not the fight we're in right now, we're in an existential battlle against unmitigated evil.
aug 24, 2025, 12:08 am • 0 0 • view
This is the same fight. You can’t overthrow Hitler while conceding he’s right about the Jews and you can’t overthrow Trump while conceding he’s right about trans people.
aug 24, 2025, 12:13 am • 2 0 • view
Gavin Newsome didn't say the TFG was right about trans people. He said some trans men should not compete in women's sports. You have every right in the world to become who you want to be but you still have to follow the rules. No one has a right to participate in anything just because they want to.
aug 24, 2025, 12:21 am • 0 0 • view
That's one of the things Trump (he's not Voldemort, you can write his name) says about trans people. Newsom is platforming MAGA people and telling them he agrees with them about trans people. Also, what do you think a trans man is?
aug 24, 2025, 12:31 am • 2 0 • view
I'm going to leave at that and agree to disagree. To me, the most crucial challenge we face is the survival of this country and the safeguarding of everyone's rights. Right now, Gavin Newsome is the only who is any way challenging successfully.
aug 24, 2025, 12:39 am • 1 0 • view
You have a Trans GRANDCHILD!?!?! And you aren’t willing to fight for THEM?????? Have you told them that? I didn’t think I was being that literal when I said you only cared about yourself. Holy fuck.
aug 24, 2025, 1:09 am • 3 0 • view
I am fighting for them by doing everything I can to defeat this administration. They agree with me.
aug 24, 2025, 4:52 pm • 1 0 • view