Missouri passed a law in 2023 that prohibited healthcare providers from performing pelvic exams on unconscious or anesthetized patients without their informed consent because IT WAS LEGAL TO PERFORM A PELVIC EXAM ON AN ANESTHESIZED PATIENT WITHOUT CONSENT UNTIL 2023…
It’s been legal in many states!! I’ve probably been examined unconsented given how many surgeries I had. I was even disabled by an unconsented procedure in surgery
Holy crap. 😳
That’s how drs are trained. No one willingly lets med students practice on them. Many states still allow this
It’s still legal in too many states. Medical training is the excuse. No one wants future drs learning to do pelvic exams on them
I am so naive. When I see laws like this I have to ask myself what happened to make this a law. Trusting that professionals will abide by their oath to do no harm is a thing of the past.
Unbelievable!!!
Ewwww
There are other states that did the same thing. Some included DRE's on unconscious or anesthetized men in their bill.
"Before 2019, only six states legally required that doctors seek informed consent to perform a pelvic exam." www.theregreview.org/2020/10/08/g...
You'd just have to explain why any ppl were doing this. Like, it might be legal in my state. Because it never occurred to anyone. 🤔 There is probably a legal way to skin lizards, too. 🦎
You can check if it's legal in your state here. share.google/5iQoILtD1EGM...
Jfc
What if you are unconscious because you are hemorrhaging from a ruptured ectopic pregnancy? Now they'll let women die? We need doctors making medical decisions, not politicians because it's all getting out of whack.
Thank god…but Jfc 🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦♂️
REALLY I DIDN'T KNOW THAT
Don’t recall the exact year but it was just 20-25 years ago that pelvic exams on unconscious or anesthetized patients in California became prohibited. Pretty amazing that built in systemic abuses get perpetuated without question for so long.
I’m so sorry. And relieved? 🤷♀️
There are so many unjust and abusive patriarchal laws still on the books in so many states. This is the “greatness” to which maga refers.
JFC
Where I come from, this is called rape 😱🤬
That’s insane
WTF?!
And because there were lawsuits by women who woke from surgery to find that student nurses were being allowed to practice these exams without consent. Don’t forget that this was a solution to a real problem!
Too many men said “Well how else are medical students supposed to learn?” Too many men said “Well they’re unconscious so what’s the harm?” Too many men said “This is how we’ve always done it.” Then they learned it was being done on unconscious men…. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_...
They’re saying it right in the comments here
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
www.worldatlas.com/articles/50-...
Such creeps.
Didn't they also vote to end child marriage 2 years ago?
Because all republicans are rapists and pedophiles
www.kansascity.edu/blog/student...
A Doctor in Wyoming did exactly this… rape his patients. law.justia.com/cases/wyomin...
Republican
Probably.
1 good thing so far.
I’m also very impressed that medical students wrote this bill. Hope exists with the yoots! 🥹🤩🇺🇸
Med students and resident trainees are typically the driving force behind all interesting changes in the Am Med Association as well. They are so impressive, and often called “the conscience of the AMA.”
I’m actually shocked the governor signed the bill.
About damned time! OMFG! But the irony of this part was, um, interesting.
We need some women governors to sign some new regulations about men's bodies
OMG!
👀- WOW!
I literally had to look up this law in my NYS- whew! Seems we always had this prohibitation of healthcare providers performing pelvic exams without consent. Why isn’t this a damn federal law?
There’s a comment on the original post by someone who had this done to them in New York. It’s quite detailed.
Oh come on you know why. :(
Oh yeah- still damn insane and MO just passed in 2023. Guess I was ignorant on this one-and assumed it was national law. OMG-wonder how many other states no law?
You would like to think that a person would need explicit permission to touch a vagina, but you would be wrong. Sounds like the default is that a vagina is public property.
They do it because they can't find enough volunteers for their students. So they raid the recovery wards.
Women often have no autonomy in medical settings.
WHAT???????????????????????????
WTAF
And still is in other states…..😒🫣😖
Not one young doctor ever said a word. Hmmm
Sick sick sick… “pelvic exams” my ass. They were sexually assaulting women.
exactly, it’s called rape. medical professionals were gang raping unconscious patients. full stop.
Anymore, I feel as though the depravity of men is so disgustingly out of control…The world needs a reset. These are the same men who support a convicted rapist… A reckoning is necessary. This can’t continue to poison the younger generations… Trump MAGA and the Republican Party need to go.
Does your state have this law? This happens a lot in teaching hospitals. Pretty horrifying. Going to look it up for my state.
i would not want ANYONE to perform a pelvic exam on me if i was out to it . imagine waking up to find all these people gathered around laughing at me !
They're lucky it wasn't my daughter because i would have to have had to examine their skulls to see if they had any fucking brains. That Dad who rushed the molester gymnastics doctor in court had the right idea.
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Wait WHAT?!?
Sweet Ceiling Cat!
So what about other states? Was Missouri the last state to pass this?
No
How stupid we have become.
But if a woman is in a coma, or in surgery after a sexual assault, how will the doctors get the evidence to try to get the perpetrator? or give medical treatment for pelvic trauma?
That’s completely different.
When we have to protect our people from our leaders / decision makers…- we know something went wrong👇👇
American Facist
Bully, non abiding leaders, fascist, authoritarian….. something like that!
We'll fight together
I appreciate that! Thank you for ignoring the stupidity and aiming high! We need you. 77 million of us.
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Still is here. If nothing else says men consider women as property, using an unconcious woman to demo palvics to a group of mostly male interns, then having them all taking turns on someone who is in surgical recovery for an unrelated reason, and not noting on chart, asking, etc is sexual assault.
Well, MO is the Show Me state ...
In one article I read a few years ago, this would happen with women after surgery while she was still under. Med students lined up out the door to do the exams like it was a carnival booth. Florida banned the practice in 2020, which is when I prolly read about it. Now they need informed consent.
It was a woman in medical residency who finally suggested that the practice is unethical and possibly criminal. My tech told me the other day that mammogram machines were cold angular metal torture devices until woman were allowed in the medical field and gave educated input for the device design.
They still are awful torture devices…
Just one more horrific thing women have to endure.
This happened to me after a colonoscopy several years ago. When I woke up it felt like I had been raped. I was raw as if I'd had a baby. I raised holy hell with the hospital till they fessed up I had been raped by 15 interns to check out my tilted uterus! I should have sued.
What is the statute of limitations? I'm sorry this happened to you.
I had no recourse I signed papers. And every woman that has minor surgery/procedure probably did too...
THIS IS FUCKING HORRIFYING. I’m so sorry! You absolutely should have sued.
I was told in the papers I signed I gave permission for interns to do it. And in tiny print there it was!!! Now I read every single line in hospital and dr paperwork before I sign.
OMG. OMG. I will now read everything with a fine tooth comb. They can do this to cadavers. Why do we need to be raped legally while under anesthesia?!?
They been doing it for decades to women to train doctors. Before you go under tell them you do not consent. That's what I told them in 2024 when I had another colonoscopy. The doctors reply was we have no interns right now!
Don’t just tell them. WRITE IT IN ON THE CONSENT FORM. Then take a photo of it for your own records.
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Just to elevate the discussion: cadavers wouldn’t work, the tissues are not comparable. But for decades, most med schools have paid “professional patients” who are paid to allow med students to learn how to perform pelvic exams. They are often nurses, and very committed to teaching the skill.
Great. Thanks. Still no excuse to basically rape women. I don’t give a shit if there was fine print. Whomever decided that it was ok to put that shit in fine print is fucking evil because WHY WOULD WE EVER THINK THIS WAS A POSSIBILITY DURING A MEDICAL PROCEDURE. WTF
No disagreement there.
I’m so sorry. This happened to me as well. I should have sued.
Omigawd…. That was literally assault!!!
THAT'S HORRIBLE 😭 FOLLOWING UP 🙏⚖️🇺🇸🕊️💙
Some one did something. That's what matters I suppose. Now that there is a law, that can probably be backdated charges.
WTAF 😳
Ugh!!!!
Does this include men not getting rectal prostate assessments while not able to give consent?
Hopefully
It should. Society doesn’t usually see mens’ bodies as public property, tho. But no one should be used as a medical mannequin just because the opportunity presented itself.
And it’s still not illegal everywhere in the year of our lord 2025
Remember that traumatic injuries are not confined to other parts. Putting you feet on the dash of a moving car can end up in devastating pelvic injury. Those pts are not consented prior to surgery.
This is the second time you’ve tried to twist the narrative to something that the conversation is not about. No one is saying that a single exam cannot be undertaken in an emergency if there is reason to believe there is injury.
This is NOT for emergency surgery. The bill is to stop hospitals from using women under sedation for surgery as practice dummies for classes of interns.
This isn’t about treatment; it’s about practice for interns in a non-emergency situation. So treating injuries doesn’t have anything to do with this practice.
You really are committed to missing the point, I’ll give you that. Go fuck yourself and your stupidity. K?
So I’m sure he would be ok to just allowing rectals if he was unconscious after a car crash when he is wheeled in for a cat scan of his brain,right? Because there could be something injured in his colon amirite
According to him he “worked in an ER for decades”. I guarantee he knows exactly what the bill is *actually* talking about and has no issue with it. He’s one of the reasons the bill is necessary in the first place
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Why am I not surprised.
Omg
Omg
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Wow, so far, Missouri has just started to bring standards up to 1970’s levels.
They don’t call it Mizzery for nothin’ 😳
This country is going backwards at the speed of light!
Gross
Wow!
This is confusing.
Do you need help to understand?
Sure. Whenever you have the time.
Should unconscious people who were not informed or given the opportunity to consent beforehand be subject to invasive procedures? Especially their most personal bits.
The linked article states that the bill “prohibits health care providers or any student or trainee under the supervision of a health care provider from performing a prostate, anal, or pelvic exam on anesthetized or unconscious patients in a health care facility without informed consent.”
Or maybe you’re thinking about specifically gynecological situations… in which case the patient would certainly be informed and provided consent beforehand. That’s not what this is about.
I get the feeling these procedures were viewed as training opportunities for med students. Ick. I am not interested in being your guinea pig.
Maybe you’re thinking about emergency situations? The last P: “law includes a provision for emergency implied consent…. And that patients be informed after. “Previously, patients often had no idea these unauthorized examinations were performed because they weren’t noted in their medical charts.”
Yes, it's important to note they will still do this in emergencies if the diagnosis/treatment needs the exam. Before it was just for training, basically you're out cold so why not let everyone feel you up and get some practice on a warm body 🤬 "it's not like you'd know"
My wife woke up in CA after a minor procedure to find 9 arterial blood gas sticks in her wrist. Apparently they practice those without consent too.
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Working in an Er for decades I can tell you that I’ve seen dramatic injuries in the pelvic region that required life saving intervention on pts that were intubated and unable to sign. They would have died under this bill. For those putting your feet on the dash in a moving vehicle, that’ll do it.
This bill isn’t for those situations. It’s for when you go in for a surgery on your head or neck or colonoscopy & the hospital decides it’s a good time to let a class of interns stick their hands inside your pelvis to see what a uterus/ovaries feel like. It’s to stop assault of patients.
That’s cool. But will they force a woman in a coma to carry a pregnancy?
See GEORGIA this spring. They did.
That’s the point
Probably recommended knowing the Missouri Republican Party!
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So ... One of those "well technically this is not illegal" stupid things. Then people wonder why there are fat stacks of law books with laws and cases in them.
Is Missouri backwards or just corrupted by religion. cbwrong.blogspot.com/2025/07/neve...
Both.
Sometimes they have to be done in emergency situations. But the situation must warrant one.
This is NOT for emergency surgery. The bill is to stop hospitals from using women under sedation for surgery as practice dummies for classes of interns.
Yes the hospitals must have ethics. It’s a problem goes all the way up and isn’t confined to women. That’s a fact.
What the holy cow wonder women here?
Thank goodness they are passing laws against this. This happened to me while I was having surgery that had nothing to do with a pelvic exam. When I woke up cramping, I was told that they “practiced” a D&C on me. I was so shocked and horrified that I just went home in silence.
Sue them!
It was over 20 years ago. :/ I should have sued them then but it took me a long time to understand the magnitude. Now I’m furious! And so sad for us women with this kind of disrespectful abuse.
That was in New York State, by the way.
Missouri for me. I do not care what they say it is rape!
MN for me. It is rape. It’s traumatizing & sick. Other states recruit & pay conscious women to be “patients” for interns to practice on. Since most drs are not going to be performing pelvic exams on sedated women, it makes much more sense to learn how to be gentle.
Seems we ladies are having a #Metoo moment.
Very much. & we’re just the ones who are aware it happened to us!
I’m a big shock recalling this (it was back in 2002). It just hit me hearing about your experiences that this must happen quite often — and it absolutely is rape/assault/etc. I’m so sorry this happened to us. I’m going to warn my daughters.
One hospital I had a simple surgery & should’ve been on my way home by 9am. I woke over 12 hours later on a gurney in a storage room to a nurse & my friend telling me my skin was ashen. In a hospital gown with no underwear. The surgery was on my sinuses. No one would tell me what happened.
OMG!
A family friend who was a Dr & like a second dad to me, was the first to tell me about this practice of keeping women sedated after their surgeries so that interns can line up & practice on them. He thought that was likely what happened. Other incident I woke & started struggling. It was terrifying😭
Until just recently ( about 5 years ago) hospitals always made you remove your underwear when you were having surgery. I used to fight them on this. I tried to sneak my underwear on and they always caught me. Nobody ever gave me a satisfactory reason as to why I couldn’t have my underwear.
The simple surgery I was told to wear my own comfy clothes, no bra I guess for the heart monitor, so when I woke 1/2 day later w/o clothes & feeling battered on the lower part of my body, I assumed something had gone terribly wrong. Now I know I was just used at my own expense 😭
Now you have perverts lining up to be the ones to perform genitalia checks for sports.
Wow sick fucker who signed that.
Actually, it’s pelvic, rectal, and breast exams. If you’re having surgery in any teaching hospital, they can do all of this to their patients, and they’re primarily females. You have to tell them you don’t want it done. Thing is, they don’t tell you that they’re going to do it in the first place.
is it possible that for fucking ONCE this state could surprise me with some sort of benevolent factoid instead of a constant stream of horrors such as this? I'd like to pretend that living here isn't a nightmare 100% of the time, for once.
Misery is full of rapists and pedophiles
If it makes you feel better, I bet its still okay in TX and all the other Repub"liban" states. Now tgat I think about it I'm scared to look at CO! 😨
no, it doesn't. why would I feel better that patients can be legally sexually assaulted in other states just because they're red?
I didn't mean it that way, I'm 60 fn years old I grew up watching dead women being discovered everywhere from unsafe abortions like alleys, abandoned buildings. I've become very cynical when it comes to human rights ever being the norm. I should have added everyone needs to check their state. Sorry
the flippant "I bet" and riff on "Republicans" comes across a very different way to me. I'm not trying to come at you for the sake of it, but there's always a lot of "well they voted for it!" with red states, and they don't deserve to be treated that way either. sorry if I'm coming across harshly.
It is. Someone was recently sanctioned for it, but as it isn’t illegal, I guess, no charges were filed.
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It is illegal in CT except in extreme situations; otherwise, informed consent is needed.
Just WOW!!!
I'll bet there's a lot of GOP folks who were pissed when that law came in.
I CAN'T
wtf?? PERVS
I can’t imagine being unconscious and it being ok to do a pelvic. How would that be ethical? Holy cow…
Yes Jess this is how laws work
🤨 crazy
Gross.
EUW. What IS IT with the South??? Seems like they take normalcy, remove all the humanity, add wicked amounts of cruelty and stupidity and call it medicine.
It’s not just the south
god bless america !!
Unfuckingbelievable!
How does that make sense.
Missouri
From a country that forces dead women to be incubators and creeps to inspect kids genitals in sports, I'm not surprised.
😳
Missouri is so messed up
Just a precautionary note from this physician. My patient was a 15 year old girl with a bad brain injury who nearly died from Toxic Shock Syndrome because they didn’t find the tampon until she was septic. In Missouri.
Couldn't you find a tampon with an ultrasound?
I shouldn't be surprised by that in the Bible Belt states ‼️
It’s not just the southern states
Minnesota in particular fought outlawing it for years. From a quick search, it seems it’s now finally illegal. But as a patient who was anesthetized for a surgery on my throat and woke up being assaulted this way, it’s a trauma that never really goes away.
Nurse here in MO, can confirm.
Unbelievable- Geesh.
There wasn't a federal law against lynching until 2022. Yay us.
Really does make a mockery of that so-called "informed consent" concept, now doesn't it? But anytime you start treating people like objects, things to be used, you're in Evil territory. Not the nearer occasions of sin, as they say, but full-blown moustache twirling.
ffs
Oh wow. Jfc
O. M. G.
I necro-feely-ya?? 🤮
So, rape.
Yes.
💯 most Especially women of color + impoverished
#unauthorized #PelvicExams
Unbelievable!
The fact that they didn't make it illegal before makes my stomach tie up in knots. A "pelvic exam" could be any number of things without knowledge or consent. Sick people.
Many states, not only Missouri. Bill just passed in Wisconsin in May, now waiting on Gov's signature. This brave woman told her story and helped make it happen: www.dailycardinal.com/article/2025...
Used to be common for med students to do pelvic exams on unconscious women in the OR. High ick factor. Most people don’t read their pre-surgical consents that carefully.
Other times it’s hidden in “miscellaneous” type of permissions.
Not surprised at all. Women are human beings not toys to destroy.
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WTAF??? OMFG
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hey! Any improvements are an improvement! BUT There are a number of criminal prosecuting from earlier to 2023 which should be challenged!
Non consensual = sexual assault and if there is any penetration with fingers, it’s rape. Despicable.
Underlining what you said. It's rape. Period. That they did it under the guise of being a trusted professional guiding students makes it worse.
OMG!
Wow.
disgusting and unsurprising
Nevada in 2024 law.justia.com/codes/nevada...
? What's the point in that? What if their in a car accident and there's severe trauma to the pelvic area from a seatbelt....just leave it untreated?
“law includes a provision for emergency implied consent…. And that patients be informed after. “Previously, patients often had no idea these unauthorized examinations were performed because they weren’t noted in their medical charts.”
Help me understand this obsession of following the law. Its not Gospel. Its an asshole dictator sending an executive order. Where is your free will?
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Wtf Missouri!?!?!? 🤦😡
Was it only passed because there was a hidden provision that lowered the age of consent to 12?
If you are a Doctor, PLEASE listen to and respect women! So many horror stories of MINE from those in that profession. Quite frankly, it is the reason why I haven’t gone to one in some time.
THAT BOGGLES THE MIND
What the fuck ?
While it may have been “legal” it certainly wasn’t ETHICAL. I hope no doctor was actually doing this. Even in the office for PAPs, they have always had female nurses accompany them
Pap smears don't have to be performed in an office any longer. In Australia they are done at home via a mail in swab, which results in more people with an uterus doing it. Of course in North America it's not approved, I am sure bc it stops a billable visit.
I had an amazing coworker fro Australia- she’s moving back there now :( I asked her to take me with her 😆
American, so this is absolutely news to me. It is done in comfort at home? I’m curious how that actually works, like, aim wise.
It has been recently approved by the FDA. www.npr.org/2025/05/10/n...
That’s amazing!!!
I’m a nurse and I’m pretty sure I’d have that thing failed… don’t you need a speculum to assure you get the right sample?
It absolutely happened and in certain states still happens. And sometimes it's a whole bunch of "exams" because they have students.
This is probably how they taught OB/GYN doctors of the past. Fortunately students were rightfully horrified with this practice and realized it is wrong. Thank you to the students that wrote
It was a group of medical students who pushed the legislation to ban the practice.
Ashley Weitz (she is a public advocate) has worked for years to educate medical students about the harms of this practice; testified before several state legislatures. Finally, laws are changing in states. I'd link a news article, but it's NYT and I don't boost that outlet ever.
Whoops. Just clicked through to read the article. Ashley is quoted in it, I see.
Good for them!!
It’s straight up targeting of women for the purpose of sexual abuse. They don’t do prostate exams. Penis exams. It’s just a way for creepy ass men to rape us.
It absolutely happened and is still legal in some states. I went down the rabbit hole on this issue a while back because it was both horrifying and unfathomable.
That’s pretty predatory, pervey and sexual assault - actually. Almost seems like that law was carefully designed by a criminal practitioner/politician
Still is in a lot of states
That’s what was in the Epstein files. 👍🏴🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Article says "Missouri’s new law includes a provision for “emergency implied consent,”". So at least emergency rooms can help patients who arrive unconscious.
Since the allowed exceptions to this appear to include emergency aid, required for diagnosis, and criminal forensics… that would suggest that this was intended to stop something that was none of those things. WTF?!
Just wondering —- was it legal to perform rectal exams in men under anesthesia ?
JFC 🤬
For 137 years, it was legal to exterminate Mormons in Missouri. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missour...
Of course, Missouri
What a great state!
And most of the exams, if not all, were done by men.
Don't forget the breast exams. They are fucking scum.
Any you should still put on intake paperwork for teaching hospitals cannot do anything without your consent.
Your husband has to sign off on it though.
No he doesn’t
In Georgia they yanked a baby out of a corpse they kept warm.
Despicable.
Solving a problem that didn't exist until they solved it. If the patient can't consent, who can? Relatives? The State? Always prepare an Advanced Care Directive to protect your health and life. Your primary care provider, formerly known as your doctor, can help fill one out!
The problem certainly did exist. This was happening to women in MO!
Okay, so women would go to their gynecologist for their yearly pap smear and pelvic exam, and the medical staff would ask for consent? Or women became unconscious with their legs in the stirrups, and the doctor, speculum in hand, and had to ask for consent? Is this like a zygote is a person?
This is like go for minor surgery having nothing to do with a vagina, and while sedated, a few interns grab some experience doing pelvic exams. You are never the wiser. That’s what I remember from living there when the law passed.
Institutional rights supersede a patient's right. Where has our constitutional rights to privacy gone? (Rhetorical question, we know where's it's gone. It started during Clinton's second term and got worse after 9/11 with the Orwellian named PATRIOT ACT.)
That’s not what this is about
Please enlighten me.
2)even if the patient read every word it might have been written in as permission for other “miscellaneous” procedures These are not procedures necessary for the patient wellbeing, they are literally “lining up interns” (as described by one person above) to practice pelvic exams on unconscious women
Now I understand. Thank you for clarifying.
1) Basically the hospital was saying that the patients “consented” automatically by a) coming to a teaching hospital and b) signing the contract to get whatever procedure it was that they knew about. In some cases the “permission” was buried in fine print, in others it was worded so vaguely that
What the hell. That is random and disturbing. Holy shit!
suspiciously sounds like Republicans at it again. cannot imagine any ethical and principled doctor would do such a thing to begin with.
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That is crazy!!
Rape-y state. 😬
Missouri
Congratulations, you win the reply of the week award 👆
This is utterly ludicrous. Women who are unconscious should receive whatever medical care is warranted in an emergent situation. This is just a way to prevent emergency abortions even if a woman’s life is in peril.
The law is about pelvic exams THAT ARE NOT WARRANTED. It happened to me at 17 in an ED. I was awake, I said "no" over and over, but I couldn't scream or fight back because I was weak from hemmoraghing. I was told they could do whatever they wanted b/c it was a teaching hospital. (1/2)
Time was taken away from treating my life-threatening condition to "teach" an intern how to violate a child's sense of safety and create horrible, unwarranted pain without a conscience. I was so ashamed and violated that I didn't tell anyone until two decades later. I SAID, "NO!" REPEATEDLY.
There needs to be differentiation between truly emergent situations that warrant a pelvic exam and those that aren’t warranted. I am sorry that you had such a negative experience. Hopefully the courts could get you the justice you deserve.
Thank you so much for your kindness, Jean! The courts couldn't get justice for me then, but with laws like this one in more states, they can protect future girls and women from my experience.
Why would you ever need to do that in the first place?
Training
Idk what is worse. That it took this long to make a law about this. Or the fact we NEED a law to specifically define this as illegal.
Stay Classy, Missouri!
Why not a foot exam? Hair exam? Arm exam? Why not a prostate exam? Penis exam? THIS WAS RAPE.
That’s sick!
🤔But what if you’re…hmmm…hit by a train….you’re unconscious…and you have a broken Pelvis!😳
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Damn who knew.
No Rape Kit for the beaten and raped to unconsciousness, I guess.
“law includes a provision for emergency implied consent…. And that patients be informed after. “Previously, patients often had no idea these unauthorized examinations were performed because they weren’t noted in their medical charts.”
Deliverance
Woman. You mean unconcious woman had their legs spread and their vaginas probed for GROUPS of mostly males, without consent .
Sadly yes. I had worn my underwear during a surgery because it was supposed to be short and I went to the bathroom immediately before. When I woke up and realized my underwear had been removed I was confused and asked. Still coming off drugs I started crying when I was told a pelvic exam was done.
I had absolutely no idea this goes on. I'll have to check my state laws. Sadly I'm the one north of Missouri, so I won't get my hopes up. 😥
Horrifying
Just for factual accuracy, US medical school classes are majority female since 2017. Don’t know that it makes it better or worse but there you go. www.aamc.org/news/press-r...
I am sad to say that when I was a medical student on ObGyn, they made us perform a few of those. At the time I assumed that the patients had been consented, but in hindsight, I doubt it. For all the good that happens, medicine still has a lot that needs fixing.
*This only happened on ObGyn, and it was on surgical patients who were getting gynecological surgery. There was some teaching value, but it never should have happened without prior informed consent. Just wanted to clarify that it wasn’t universal or done on random patients.
Way too many states still haven’t adopted this law. rainn.org/articles/non...
Thank you for posting this. I swore I heard it discussed on NPR( or some such) before. Disgusting. Guess some schools have done breast & prostate exams too. New Federal Guidelines Ban Pelvic and Prostate Exams Without Patient Permission share.google/RrjHDPENUK3B...
@piperformissouri.bsky.social was the original poster but it reminded me of a news story as well. I was shocked when I looked it up how many states still allow it to happen.
Yep, Wisconsin legislature just passed bill in May, waiting on Gov's signature.
