The Confederates always used "state's rights" when it was convenient and the feds to control the states when it wasn't. We are still fighting the confederates...they weren't punished well enough and they never went away.
The Confederates always used "state's rights" when it was convenient and the feds to control the states when it wasn't. We are still fighting the confederates...they weren't punished well enough and they never went away.
I said the same thing after Trump did this... www.kgou.org/politics-and...
So true and so obvious to any serious and objective student of history
When I visited my Tennessee uncle in the 70s, me from northern Indiana, we refoughrt the civil war again and again. And my Georgian great grandfather fought for the Union army!
Exactly and this damn time though they will be.
They’ve said for the last 100 years and change that “the south shall rise again.” That was the red flag. 🚩
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you mean White Christian Conservatives
Extermination of racists and misogynistic assholes is the only solution. Theyre like bamboo, invasive as fuck and need to be treated the same way if it starts growing in your lawn. I refuse to be tolerant of people who want to kill others because they ain't white or straight.
The truth of this has been diluted from post-Reconstruction, and people have yet to face the truths behind the rebellion against Union. It was about white supremacy, and the monuments and symbols are the talismans of it's resurrection, ever present, frozen in time. It's time to let this go.
A southern friend told me once "they don't know they've lost yet" I believe it!
That’s some truth, there.
These same confederates are now paving the way to repeal women’s right to vote
A house divided cannot stand.
I would argue they weren’t punished at all.
The way the Nazi flag was outlawed in Germany after the war, the flag of a traitors, and losers should have been outlawed as well..the confederacy never disappeared, they just rebranded themselves with suits, and ties yelling whataboutisms, and controlling women with threats of jail time for bodily
autonomy..KKK wearing police uniforms instead, and will gladly pull a black man out of his car for not compling fast enough, and sending him to jail ( and worse, we all know what that means), because he dared to ask why he was pulled over..
The Rebs are in charge now, they won't go away quietly.
"My heritage" arguments gall me like no other. You fly a Confederate flag, you're a racist insurrectionist. And you're proud of it. It's getting where we can't fly the American flag because the GOP has appropriated it! I used to but don't want people to think I'm a racist Republican.
^^this^^
Occupy the Confederacy
Right. And The Confederacy still wants its ugly, racist statues on pedestals 😡 The old South is like the evil car that wouldn’t die in Stephen King’s excellent book, “Christine” 😱
Yep. The failure of Reconstruction is at the foundation of our present ills.
Confederate ideas. And the fact they still 5hink the war is on. SMH
I’ve always felt we should have allowed Sherman and Grant to finish the job of exterminating seditious vermin. Big mistake.
We have to stop bringing water balloons to their gun fights.
We have to stop declaring victory & then just going on with life before holding the enemy accountable. Turns out we declared victory early for the Civil, both World, & the Cold Wars, then let the enemies roam free as insurgents so they could use the time to regroup & implement long term strategies.
💯 So true.
The fact we have military bases name after Confederate generals says it all.
Traitors to the country praised for their "leadership" in a war they supposedly lost (turns out they were just biding their time).
I think the civil war is coming 😞
I sincerely hope not, but it feels like a Cold Civil War is already here.
IMO, that cold civil war has been going on in America for years…
It’s gotten a lot more heated under Trump
Yes. And would have under Harris as well. The fascists have emerged, are exposed, & have everything to lose. But they were prepared to fight if she had won & likely would have initiated violence before she was inaugurated, let alone installed her own cabinet. This has been brewing for decades.
So, you’re telling me America isn’t the greatest country on earth… huh… who would have thunk it 😑
Plenty of unrealized potential yet, but on the whole since the initial progressive leap forward from monarchy/tyranny to democratic republicanism, We the People have made a poor showing of steady progress from “All men are created equal” meaning white male landowners to it meaning “All people.”
Following for your astute, considered takes on events.
Welcome aboard, Byrd. Thanks for the kind follow. Will match you.
Yes there are millions of guns in this nation and many more available for sale. No reason to bring water balloons to a gun fight!
Policy discussions of how to collect requirements for water balloons is more like it.
I think it was the fact that they were still considered honorable.
In retrospect, we should have just freed the slaves, invited them north, then built that big, beautiful wall everyone keeps talking about.
YES! And... confederates = the shittiest of people
The Confederates who did that in the 1800s are dead. The Nazis who tortured and killed innocent people in the 1940s are dead. These are NEW Confederate Nazis. THESE people need to be punished well enough.
And the KKK. There's a whole hell of a lot of the same garbage in the 1920s Klan publications. Note that, at that time, a minimum of 5% of the US population was a card-carrying Klan member: 6 mil people (again, registered).
A truer statement has never been made!
It was the hatred and bigotry that never fully disappeared.
I believe the real problem was Lincoln was assassinated. truly believe if Lincoln was not assassinated the states would have come back together like they should have This was his vision but instead his vice president took it a completely different direction and we're still suffering from that today
Exactly- we wimped out on the Confederates and the Nazis and they’re back. We need to understand infestations require scorching the earth. If you leave a nest, they will return.
I think Reconstruction would have been different if Lincoln had not been assassinated.
The Klan still would've been formed, and sharecropping, debt peonage, and Jim Crow still would've been the law of the South. Reconstruction didn't change the economy nor culture of the South, so why would it have fixed the natural conclusion of slaves being inferior servants of plantations?
and for some reason, were allowed to put up all kinds of statues, monuments and name military bases after the biggest, worst traitors to the US. Kind of defies any logic.
💯 MAGA is just the loser confederates wrapped in a different brand. New hats, same bullshit. What would John Brown do?
You mean the racists?
We are still fighting confederates. We should never have reconciled with slavers.
Just like the Jan 6th coup, did not punish the ringleaders.
And Epstein they haven’t punished the majority of the abusers
Rural political power must be dismantled.
i think about this a lot. its the exact same fucking people and attitude that is causing all the trouble now. Not only were they not punished post-Civil War, they were coddled and they took advantage of that.
Confederates were fuckin PAID to give up owning, terrorizing, raping, stealing from & killing Black folks!! So NO, they weren't punished AT ALL!!! And it ain't just the Confederates!! The 40 acres & a mule were never delivered, can you imagine what that's worth today, with interest??
It’s noble to be kind to the vanquished, but it’s not good policy. Next time, put them down.
They never gave up. They were graciously allowed to be citizens again unpunished. Should have hanged half the CS army and banned paraphernalia. Forgiving traitors not a good idea. Traitors then, traitors now.
@hcrichardson.bsky.social HOW THE SOUTH WON THE CIVIL WAR, Historian Heather Cox Richard’s book is so important now. We must win the #fightfordemocracy or become an enslaved people serving oligarchs.
💯 great book
Read that book during the first regime (among many others on authoritarianism, fundamentalism, cults, etc) and this one really stood out.
Ditto for the Nazis! “The Day the Nazi Died” by British band Chumbawamba is a very relevant song of theirs and it’s from 1993! They were heavily criticized for “provoking violence” and faced threats of censorship. But their response was more or less “when did hating Nazis become a bad thing?”
Spot on They lost, yet like a disease of the nation, they never went away
Let’s be sure not to make that mistake again.
We already have; it's called the GOP.
Precisely. That’s who still needs to be punished accordingly.
Yup
Time for Reconstruction 2.0!
Ugh, let's hope it lasts longer?
That's a big problem in the South. Reconstruction was stopped quickly when Andrew Johnson became president.
While I know 4yrs is nothing and that just rescuing this democracy will have to be priority #1, it will be a grave mistake that ensnares our children or grandchildren in the same way if we do not - at the same time-immediately start prosecutions of these treasonous bigots.
And he must be impeached for treason b/c that will take out the whole top layer @ the same time.
Yes, problem is after his last administration, it’s evident that there are not enough decent republicans to make it possible. I really think it will come down to the people. Mass (and I do mean MASS) demonstrations, strikes, nationwide boycotts.
What are we waiting for? Oh yeah, they control everything - including SCOTUS.
Johnson was a tool, but it ended with the election of 1876, well after his term ended. The Republicans were scared of a recount as it was close, and they made a deal with the southern Democrats to end reconstruction if they ended their opposition to the election. That’s overly simplified, but still.
Ahh, yes. Rutherford B. Hayes/ Samuel(?) Tilden with the national guard.
Over a truly meaningless presidential election in retrospect. Had troops remained in the south for at least a generation or two we may have avoided all the problems we have today.
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Then it’s time for millions to stand now and march with 2a in hand and march forward to the end of fascism!
Doesn’t appear like we’re done with the tear-down yet tho 🤔
Am reading Erik Larson’s THE DEMON OF UNREST about the run up to the Civil War. (Like all his books, well researched and highly readable) So instructive to today’s events and yes, the Confederacy lives on!
Excellent book and as someone who lives in the Charleston area, hits home.
Love learning about chivalry. Explains so much!
Have you read Jon Grinspan's "Wide Awake"? If not, add it to your list! www.theguardian.com/books/articl...
Andrew Jackson was the wrong person to be associated with Reconstruction.
This…. This right here…. I have ALWAYS felt that way !!! Excellent observation, Jess !!! I 🫡🫡🫡🫵🏾👏🏾👏🏻👏🏼👏🏿👏🏽👍🏾💙
I've always thought this. The traitors should have been treated as most traitors are, ruthlessly.
Reconstruction was ended too early. Also, why didn’t Confederate leaders hang as the traitors they were?
Biden made the same mistake as Lincoln.
Biden idolized LBJ, but the country is different now, and the tools LBJ used have been long disabled.
Confederate = Nazi
The only difference, the 1930s Germany Nazi's could read and write.
excellent point
Yep!
It's hard to say whether post-war "punishment" works or whether it locks-in enmity. The "reconstruction" after the Civil War was (according to my schooling) a period of "victimization". Support and forgiveness of most German and Japanese people has resulted in international cooperation.
The Ghost of Sherman needs to rise again…
Nope, they just festered into Nazism.
Ever wonder how it might have gone after the Civil War if Lincoln hadn't been assassinated?
The 2021 insurrectionists were never punished
No, the dems were too lenient.
This is why the blue states need to flex their economic power.
Confederate leadership in Southern America continues to keep a stranglehold, with rural counties run by the same families for generations
Thanks in clarifying It’s a bunch of goons who practice contradiction on repeat You can’t deal W/them & they enjoy being bias They are ridiculous & impossible The punishing of spoil brats In how to do Well there’s Donnie The scape goat to Be punished But wait he is immune By SCOTUS COLLUDERS
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I blame Lincoln. 307 West Point graduates from the classes of 1833-1861 joined the Confederacy. Every one of them should have been hung or put in front of a firing squad.
[They] weren't "punished" at all! We've been enduring their bullshit ever since too. Will we be able to get past their current shitstorm? That remains to be seen and I don't think we can ever unite be they hate us and we hate them! The wealthy have successfully divided us good and proper!
It meant the right of their states to impose rules on other states.
Time for readers to read Heather’s “How the South Won the Civil War” and “Democracy Awakening”🇺🇸
Great book and great recommendation.
Was just going to say this!!
If they wanted a white school all they had to do was paint the walls behind them.
We should have let them secede. The Dixiecrats, now GOP, have ruined the country.
born in the shadow of Baylor University tell ME
Time to even that up.
There are a LOT of reps in office descendent from confederate soldiers and officers.
We've been fighting racism, slavery, mysogyny, and classism since the founding of our country. It was written into the very birth of America and the constitution. It's time we make it right! Fuck the confederates and racists once and for all, for keeping us from progress!!!
We occupied Iraq longer
They never went away, is right. The civil war has not been concluded for many southerners. The electoral college is living proof that the war is still here - giving overwhelming power to the white slave owning states. There’s a lot to fix.
We long let their nonsense dictate a war-exhausted nation into their shit mindset: "Don't like it? Shout STATES' RIGHTS until the other guy backs down."
The simple truth.
I'm not sure punishment was the thing lacking - it was coherent reconstruction. (Basing on my general understanding of why WWI led to WWII and why WWII didn't move on to the next WW.)
Republicans are only co sister about one principle: A MORE HIERARCHICAL SOCIETY. They have abandoned every other stated principle - fiscal responsibility, national security, law and order - when it came into conflict with that one true principle.
winning the battle doesn't mean you won the war
As un-American as can be.
Yep and even more amazing is that we are wasting tax dollars to reinstall a statue to a racist piece of shit traitor confederate in DC www.npr.org/2025/08/05/n...
I felt that if they were going to take these statues down, they should have smelt them and made something useful. Like water fountains in the same place.
Wasn't it Sun Tzu who said the enemy must not only be defeated, but utterly vanquished so as not to rise again?
we needed another dozen general shermans.
I still regret the fact that all graycoat personnel above the rank of sergeant were not publicly hanged with marching bands and fireworks. They were no better, morally, than Nazis. Reconstruction would have gone a lot smoother that way.
Or, perhaps confederate states thrived because they were punished…
No, they were babied and coddled- we allowed the leaders to be voted into government offices where they pushed their agenda. We allowed the daughters of the confederacy to rewrite history. We should have done like Germany…
This.
exactly
They weren’t punished. That’s the point. These bastards re-asserted their political dominance in 1876. If there had been executions of all treasonous officers and the majority of the population would have been allowed to vote we wouldn’t have all this lost cause bullshit.
I see your point...
Our ancestors really screwed up in 1865. They should have put the Confederates on a boat.
Long secretly held the opinion that those who commit insurrection should lose their voting rights & be kicked out of the country. I often wonder if we had arrested Donald on January 7, where we’d be today.
spot on
Jess, don't think "weren't punished enough" is the answer...I think the aim of Reconstruction was off-target, and the Confeds knew it. They also knew that people in the Union were just as racist as they were, barring the institution of slavery. Yet they were expected to bear the whole burden of a
guilt that went all the way back to the Constitution, when the non-slave states, to get the help of the slave states, did not insist on making slavery illegal. And the North did not acknowledge their own bigotry, nor did they show the political will to enforce the reforms of Reconstruction that
*were* on target and provide the resources to bring both Black former enslaved people and poor white people up from dire poverty. The North wanted peace so they could go back to making money; the former rich in the South wanted white dominance and enough peace to make money. Not healthy partners.
Add in the weak political will to finish the job as it could have been finished...to take a longer and wider, look at the "victory conditions" desirable, the "more perfect union" the Constitution was meant to be in aid of...and the failure of Reconstruction was inevitable. I could, of course, be
wrong. My main history background is elsewhere and else-when. But humans are humans across the ages, and organizations of similar size, even now, behave in the same ways. I've read several books on the late Civil War and Reconstruction period with my eyebrows going up and down like express
elevators....These did WHAT? Those did THAT in response? Good God -a-mighty what were they THINKING? Did no one learn ANYTHING? (No, they didn't.) The mass immigrations of the late 19th and 20th c. added numbers in every category...not a help.
And as a young person I actually thought it was hilarious when they said the south will rise again. What an idiot I was now it covers most of the United States and it's as if they won the war and are now going after everyone on the other side. I really did not see it coming
Preach it! Sherman and Grant must be rolling over in their graves right now at the state of the US.
It boggles the mind that the losing side of the Civil War is so highly regarded by some.
The best time to punish the Confederates was in the mid 1860's. The second best time is NOW.
The Confederacy now runs Washington, big tech and the same 11 states as the original traitorous rebellion.
I think Abe should have let them secede. They would be just like Russia or Cuba now. And the rest of us would live in a just democracy.
Unfortunately, they were trying to secede with all of the weapons from their armories, including artillery. He couldn't allow that to happen.
There is a dual threat happening. The confederates and the nazis. The two have basically teamed up to do what neither could do alone.
True
Exactly.
The main problem was we let them get away with the "Lost Cause" nonsense and idealizing the plantation life via films like "Gone With the Wind".
100%
this is the exact reason.
Heck, we’re still fighting the Civil, both World, & the Cold Wars. In each case victory was declared but the job not finished. Had days comin’, outcome uncertain.
Ok, glad you made it.
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100%
We need more Sherman’s in the world.
As I write here, we continually relitigate the Civil War.
Amen! I had even written a recent post in my Substack on why we need to seriously undergo deconfederitization just like Germany underwent denazification after World War II. It's the only way to prevent the rise of another Donald Trump. deconstructingkremlinpropaganda.substack.com/p/deconfeder...
Over 150 years and we still haven't got it right...the rich will rule if we allow it.
There was no “truth and reconciliation” process after the war. There was no punishment for the traitors who could have been hung/shot for what they did.
How do we punish them? Take away the blue city/state cash. Let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps without handouts from the productive members of society.
This has to become a Dem priority. States get back what they put in. Make it a campaign priority.
Both NY and CA send more than $80B to the Federal Government than they get back. Every year. They could solve a lot of problems if they were allowed to keep that money.
The only way this ends is a tit for tat, nuclear deterrent strategy. You have them, we have them. We’ll destroy each other so we might as well work together. If Dems don’t adopt this mindset, we’ll lose.
Unfortunately that is a very losing strategy for an election.
Are you afraid of the Democrats losing LA, AR, TN, etc? The biggest taker states are almost all run by Republicans.
You give voters too much credit for understanding that and too little credit to the gop for how they would spin the fuck out of that.
That is why Democrats shouldn't announce what they are doing until after they get elected. Then they go the "we can't afford it" route. It would defund the red rural racists and force the MAGA leadership to demand the Federal government spend more money. Win/win
I was born in Montgomery the year before Rosa Parks was arrested. My first classes were segregated & even after segregation "ended" a common theme in yearbook comments in the 60s & 70s was "the south shall rise again." The deep south has never acknowledged its loss & now we're all paying the price.
They’re just called Republicans now
Sore losers. They should consider “The Kingdom of Confederacy” located FL 26degrees40’37”Nx80degrees2’13” can be the main castle.
Keep in mind !!! The declaration of independence by the confederate states NEVER MENTIONS STATES RIGHTS! It does mention slavery dozens of times. Dont let them rewrite history ! The war was about rich men wanting to keep their slaves
Plan B
And they've spread to be the TO GOP
The only penalty was to free their slaves, and they took forever to do it, and with no real liberties, Jim Crow, anyone 🔥💩
Punishment would not change their state of mind regarding racism. Once a racist always a racist. They're cowards and shallow. They're afraid of people who are not like them.
So true.
Jess, this is a fantastic book, I highly recommend it. www.amazon.com/How-South-Wo...
There is a saying...the south will rise again. This was stated after their surrender in the civil war. You are so right, we are STILL fighting and dealing with all of their ugliness. Their entitlement that dear leader has granted them is pure evil, just as it was then.
Lincoln wanted to be lenient on them in order to heal the divide, radical Republicans wanted them decimated. What they got was Johnson's abdication of everything Lincoln or the wide awakes ultimately wanted. Phase 1 of the civil war was finished in 1865, we need to finish phase 2 now.
We let the leaders retire to a life of comfort when they’d actually earned the gallows pole.
We let them go free and see what they’ve done.
The south has risen. The world is the worse for it
Feeling like we “libs” should’ve been less compassionate and gone scorched earth on them instead
We should have hung Plantation Owners in the Public Square and we should still do the same with today's Oligarchs
Interesting thought.
It should be illegal to fly Confederate or Nazi flags in the United States. Those bastards needed hung.
It should be an act of treason.
Hanging takes too long when one single shot to the cranium would be so much faster and with so many time would be of the essence!
Nazis in Germany use the Confederate flag as a way around bans on Nazi paraphernalia.
Hitler modeled NAZI policies on 18th/19th C. US policies (Manifest Destiny, Trail of Tears, extermination of indigenous persons where eg US Gov’t paid bounties on heads & built reeducation camps to eradicate native cultures). Worst part: Hitler wasn’t lying. Dems ignore human nature at their peril
They still need hung
While I agree in theory what would that mean in terms of free speech ? Wouldn’t a better strategy be to strengthen our educational system ?
Sure. I always want some stupid fuckers who used their free speech to kill 70 million people to be able to spout their murderous intent. Same as the human trafficking fuckfaces who started the first civil war.....the dunces in school will eventually get it like they have now. Sure. Free speech .
What law do you want to see enacted ?
A total ban on those two flags. No display. No buying. No selling.
A ban on two specific flags is not likely to hold up under judicial scrutiny
Of what judiciary? The white patriarchy defending shithole we have now? Don't make me laugh. This is out of the kangeroo courts' hands.....hikarious how you can act like evetything is normal. Did you mourn like this for the response to pro Palestinian protests? Did you?
Our constitution was written primarily by enslavers How is Trump behaving differently than George Washington ? And props to Tad Stoermer for his ability to clarify that - www.tiktok.com/t/ZPHsaQ1baT...
Washington left after two terms. Washington hung up his sword. Washington refused to crown himself king. Washington armed ex slaves and offered them freedom in exchange. Washington was around circa 1777 not 2025 and he wasn't a pedophile criminal. You'd better know your shit before arguing with me.
« Washington's actions regarding the Fugitive Slave Act and his personal management of enslaved people can be seen as upholding a system that fundamentally abused human rights. « And he tried to have her kidnapped - newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/ona-judge-st...
Lose the patriot myth. Because it’s a myth
It allowed for the capture and return of enslaved people who had escaped to free states. The Act also imposed penalties on anyone who helped or harbored a runaway slave. And he enacted that law out of spite . He was so determined to find one woman - Ona Judge -who escaped his grasp
Is this your man Washington ? The Fugitive Slave Act of 1793 was a United States federal law signed by President George Washington that enforced the Fugitive Slave Clause of the Constitution.
You’re correct in saying it’s 2025. Women couldn’t vote or sue men in 1777. Who knows what Washington did? Want to discuss Jefferson ?
Washington eventually allowed free Black men with prior military experience to enlist and later permitted enslaved men to serve as substitutes for their owners, sometimes with the promise of freedom after the war. « sometimes «
George Washington barred enslaved and free African Americans from serving in the Continental Army. However, due to manpower shortages and the British offering freedom to enslaved people who joined their ranks -
« even in the context of wartime necessity, the promise of freedom wasn't always fulfilled for those who served with the Continental Army. «
You should maybe learn your own « 💩 « before arguing with me sugar - It was the British who offered freedom to enslaved people who joined their ranks during the American Revolution
This is primarily due to the First Amendment of the US Constitution, which protects freedom of speech, including the right to express controversial or even hateful views
They are literally arresting people for waving Palestinian flags....holy shit how obtuse can you be?
As if this was something new. We were never designed to be free unless you’re a Europeon land owner. Wake up and realize the democrats have enabled Trump every step of the way. Primary 2026 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v...
Horseshit. They censor plenty of people. These two packs of motherfuckers are terrorists. Get with the f-ing program.
Which side of the duopoly are you defending ?
Hate *can* be ruled not free speech. If it is evaluated as incitement to harm, it isn't protected.
So laws can’t solve this problem This is primarily due to the First Amendment of the US Constitution, which protects freedom of speech, including the right to express controversial or even hateful views
But not incitement. I am not a lawyer. There are limits: “fighting words”, as well as others that breach public safety. I am not saying SCOTUS would approve, lmao, just that there is actual precedent.
Then we don’t need more laws. We need to elect an actual opposition party
EXACTLY!!
One problem I see in the 21st century is that those "confederates" are no longer ashamed/embarrassed to be called racists, hypocrites, nor fascists. SMDH
I have been saying this for over a decade. There was no accountability-only polite ‘let’s get back to business’ and here we are! They were just biding their time
To your point, that’s why insurrectionists have been allowed to stay in office in violation of our constitution.
Corn fed rats
100% correct, reading about Reconstruction bears this out
Another mistake was letting the south write the history when it’s supposed to be written by the victorious. See “the lost cause myth”
"States Rights" is garbage doctrine originally promulgated for the preservation of chattel slavery.
Nail on the head!
I understand the idea at the time of concessions to keep the country whole, but if left to its own devices, without northern industry, the South's economy would have collapsed with the loss of slavery. Much like now, nobody would harvest crops for free or for a piece rate.
Trump is the president of the Confederacy. SCOTUS is the Confederacy court. I find it telling that the Confederate battle flag was carried into the Capital on J6
Well White people allowed NOW it has come back to bite them in their Collective ARSE'S why RACISM bc U STILL were RACIST against Black/ Brown people this Whole time & never wanted it To go away Bc U'll Profited from it Takes GOD awhile sometimes what man won't bring Consequences for GOD Will
This is spot on. And they killed Lincoln. And then they killed every Civil Rights leader.
Very true. The only answer is secession. The Confederates, aka racist white people, will never change. We never should have fought to stay together. They hold us down
Last night, I was listening to an S.A. Cosby book. Some of this was mentioned in the book, specifically The Daughters of the Confederacy, and how they rewrote history. It's called "All the Sinners Bleed".
If fact, Jess, they won. The War was just a battle. They have everything they want except slavery, but they're near to that, and the next to go will be the 13th amendment.
This.
This is a time for a certain type of genocide! All racist and fascist pieces of shit must go! We should now be recruiting Anti-fascist People from all around the world to put an end to fascism everywhere!
Facts🫡
Exactly. And Nazis didnt evaporate either .
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All of the military and civilian leadership of the Confederacy should have been hanged for treason. Reconstruction should have gone on for generations. The Civil War ended chattel slavery but the culture of the Confederacy still thrives because the US refused to end it.
Not that I support the Trump Idiocracy, but the US Constitution gives states more rights than it gives to the federal government. This is done in article 10.
They removed it from the govt website! Article 9 & 10 ‼️😡
💯 agree
same day different cabal.
President Grant knew we needed to occupy the south for way longer, probably a whole generation. It just lost support and we are still suffering today because of it.
They weren't punished at all. BIG mistake.
They lost the war but won the peace
I've said this for years. You don't tell traitors to just go home and let bygones be bygones, that's the stupidest thing they could have done. I get it the country was tired of the war and all the books shed but what did it get us? Nothing but trouble since.
I believe we left the slave state Southerners alone when we abolished Reconstruction in order to move the Union army out West to clear the Great Plains of Native Americans to make it safe for settlers to sprawl across the Prairie and plow it under to grow monocultures of corn and soy beans.
Yes. The incredible biodiversity of the Great Plains—hundreds of species of plants and animals—turned into a monoculture eventually to fatten cows, pigs, and chickens confined in cruel factory farms.
Hell, over half of the nation will have to be deprogrammed from FASCISM and the government purged of FASCIST LOYALISTS if the CULT OF THE GOLDEN CALF ever loses an election...I think it would take a strong political party to accomplish this and most of the dems may not be up to the task...
Agree absolutely.
It's clear the Civil War never really ended. We just stopped shooting at each other and started battling in the courts and ballot boxes.
They also always know that our federal government creates our currency when it comes to natural disasters, corporate subsidies, bank bailouts & to pay for our military to get dollars into state coffers Which is why they compete over a slice of our military complex And now ICE
Biggest mistake Lincoln made was not letting them go, or not tying their hands from destroying the US again when they came back...
Yes. The civil war never ended.
You literally described our entire rotten political system. We are still fighting the whole thing, not part of it.
This book should be taught in every school in the new conferderacy‼️😡
100% correct ✅ GOP are just rebranded Confederates
Blame the Daughters of the Confederacy for that.
And my dad...
Sherman should have kept going.
Did Sherman do a war crime or six? By modern standards, kinda probably. Was it more justified than the A-bombs 80 years ago this week? Yeah, Sherman didn't do enough.
Which is exactly why we need to clean house this time and have Nuremberg Trials of our own!! Severe penalties and accountability or we'll be fighting against losing our country every 4 years. This must be crushed into oblivion. Nothing that resembles it must survive.
Same can be said for freaking nazis
In the 70s my family vacationed in the South. There were Confederate flags EVERYWHERE, on trucks, shirts, signs. At a Civil War battlefield I said to the clerk, a sweet old lady, that from the ongoing interest you'd never know the South lost. She furiously hissed, "The South DIDN'T lose the war!"
Luckily she’s dead now.
True that. But I'm horrified that 50 years after she said that and about 150 years since the Civil War ended, roughly a third of Americans still believe in the South's core values and are still fighting to take America back to slavery, oppression, and permanent white minority rule...
Some days I honestly dont know how we get out of this centuries long cycle. Then I just get back to trying to dismantle what I can.
Well said. Keep up the good work, my friend! As Sam Gamgee said, the reason to keep fighting is....
Word.
This 👆 💯!!! No half measures!
Just do what they did before and burn their homes and cities down till they fall in line.
Have been reading historical fiction of civil war times. We’re doing the same things again! 😩
We have never- never stopped fighting the Civil War. It simply rages on off the traditional battlefield. When will we formally recognize this and fight the battle as though our country’s constitution and existence depends on it… because it does.
The Dixie Vote
The problem goes back further. COTUS framers punted off the slavery question, calling it "states' rights." States rights is what we had under the Articles of Confederation. COTUS was supposed to define a nation, but devotion to states rights turns it into Articles of Confederation, version 2.
Exactly. General Sherman didn't make the traitor Confederates howl long enough.
I concur and I live in GA.