Also I hate having to care about sports because the Nazis are crazy

I always thought the point of sports was to see who was faster and stronger and could jump higher or whatever. Now the transphobes are like, "No fair, we think that girl's gonna be stronger and faster and jump higher!" and then to the trans guy they make wrestle on the girl's team, the say the same.

Yeah it's like the ancient Greek ideal of hating women has trumped the way healthier ideal of praising physical perfection and skill

I think you guys have really missed their point lol

Quite possibly. I'm not trying to demand an explanation but what do you think is the key part of this fucked-uppedness

I mean, most of them really only care about the news stories that pop up like "cis girls did not get scholarships" there was some girl who did an interview about how she lost a college swim scholarship to someone who had only recently begun transitioning. I mean, do need to make sure cis women still

have access to fair competition and opportunities for athletics. We can do that without excluding trans women, or making them compete on teams that also don't make sense or are dangerous for them. And the whole Imani Khalif thing was dumb AF but maybe we should class by density and not weight?

It would absolutely be possible to compromise a tiny amount on the issue of equal opportunity athletics. I don't understand why there is even this idea that we have to choose between trans or cis women's rights

It was never about fairness in sport. Its about getting an inch in banning being transgender in public. Those people always will be uncomfortable as long trans people are able to exist. They only will be happy once we are sent to the next Auschwitz. There is no reasonable compromise.

I really think that's not how most people are. I hope you will try to engage people in good faith anyway. There really is no other way to peace than to talk to each other

I'm happy to deal with individuals as individuals and I'll deal with a hardened movement of anti trans hate accordingly

That's great! I am really, genuinely happy to hear that. This interaction, like many, did not go very well. I get along with people and have discussions on topics where we don't agree on almost every topic, name a topic. The trans topic is the one where it always goes the worst. Any ideas for me??

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No, this is like wayyyyy high level. You've read me wrong. I am a highly informed person haha probably more highly informed about sex and gender and neurophysiology than most of the people who are actually trans, js. I am very informed, that is not the issue. If you have any other ideas, let me know

Sure I will check this out. For the record, I do get along with some trans and non-binary people, just not the mobs of them on BlueSky. Like I have several non-binary friends, close friends. Just for some more context. The idea that people don't think I am an ally just because I represent a silent

I mean, they even complained when a trans woman became the women’s champ on JEOPARDY.

This is true when everyone knows being AMAB only gives you an improved talent at Press Your Luck Jesus we live in hell

Also at darts, also at pool, also at fly fishing, and also at chess. We're just not allowed to be anywhere.

…why are there even gender divisions in those?

Can you imagine some dudes losing at games of skill and intellect to a WOMAN? They'd piss their pants and cry for their bottle.

I mean you’re not wrong

because they are all boys' clubs and women get harassed out of playing in the open bracket. you know, something that famously never happens to trans women.

I am really sorry this is being done to you

thank you. i never thought we'd be back here so swiftly after how far we'd come over 50 years.

Basically this. Its noted in Chess, in particular, that men outnumber women vastly. They've 'studied' it and can't figure out why. And its probably because male chess players tend to be assholes to women. So, they made a women's division to avoid having to make men have decent sportsmanship.

Wasn't that one of the plot points in The Queen's Gambit on Netflix? She didn't just have to compete against men, but she had to fight to get a spot competing against them?

I never saw it but it makes sense.

and how are trans women at fault, considering trans women are women?

I never implied we were. Not sure where you got that. Just talking about how some men sow division, usually because of their ego.

to my knowledge, I think the problem is that with the division, the scores can’t be compared, because women only compete against women and viceversa. So we can’t move someone from one to the other because there’s no way to calculate what the new score would be

apparently women don't compete against only women considering the exclusion of (trans) women

www.cbsnews.com/news/beauty-...

"[...] She added that biology could indeed play a role because men were larger and more muscular and had more stamina, which could help them in long chess matches. [...]" free archived commie link: archive.ph/V7doq#select... www.thetimes.com/world/europe...