Hi Markwayne, poverty line for an individual in US is $14,891/year. You think anybody earning over $15K can afford health insurance? You're out of your mind or breathtakingly ignorant.
Hi Markwayne, poverty line for an individual in US is $14,891/year. You think anybody earning over $15K can afford health insurance? You're out of your mind or breathtakingly ignorant.
What a coincidence. As a Senator Markwayne roughly makes that a MONTH.
Both. Definitely both.
Exactly
I mean...his name is Markwayne...I wouldn't put anything past him .
Mar Quayne
It's a little from column A and a little from column B, and a column C is objective cruelty and wanting people to suffer.
Yeah a cheap health insurance plan is around $500 a month - for a family at least $1000. That’s the entire poverty line salary without paying rent and food.
At a poverty line salary people should be getting truly free Medicaid. At somewhat above that, they should be getting much cheaper Marketplace policies, which really do exist www.usa.gov/health-insur... (Republicans hid them by cutting their marketing budgets)
Then if you actually have to use a low cost/free plan you are faced with $7K to $10K deductible, co-pays etc
One big problem or the hoops you have to jump through to get assistance for the high deductibles on the ACA policies. Yes you can get a free bronze plan but you have to apply for help to make any use of it. I use my one free visit to get prescriptions and that was it.
So annoyed that Markwayne was invited to opine…no one should listen to this guy. He is the first Senator to serve who does not have a Bachelor’s degree and is not suited to lecture on economics. My Beagle was available …
His constituents will eat it up, tho. They're trying to convince everyone that the only people mooching off the system are people that don't deserve it. So when your medicaid gets cut off, you'll be too embarrassed to fight for it. They're wrong. And stupid. Can't wait for him to FAFO.
Exactly. I was trying to live on about $22K a year, and that barely pays rent (1250/month, but landlord could get up to 2000, they would love me to leave, but where would I go?). Anyhoo, before I ran out, I used savings to supplement, so twice that, almost $30K is what I needed. 1/2
That's with nothing really fancy, car, no vacation really. Health insurance, yeah, deductibles and co-insurance hit hard with my health issues, especially see specialists (orthopedic, rheumatology). So twice poverty level month I needed ---explains that 70 million people needing medicaid help. 2/2
I mean, $15,000/year is what a lot of people pay for health insurance alone.
I pay 1,500 month for two healthy ppl in California
1.500? I pay about 3-400 in Spain and that’s including pension payments
You are getting robbed
When people say "you still pay for a public service with greater tax", while someone champion another's country public system. I love to point out it's still cheaper than the US system. In Australia we each pay 7,000 a year, in tax, for a public system. For everyone. It's worth it.
"But that's socialism!!!!" So? It's *much* cheaper than the US system because the US system is designed for rent-seeking private insurers to siphon off surplus value.
What’s your medical bills like though?? Ever get emergency surgery and a fun $25k bill??
Not in Australia. I think you'll get charged for the ambulance if you need one, but that's the only bill you'll get. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_...
Depends on the state with an ambulance service. In Tasmania it doesn't cost.
You know what’s even crazier? My physicians don’t want to deal with insurance so I actually have to pay them and try to get reimbursement from insurance company.
Ugh. I have to deal with some of that too--not from physicians but supplier of a medical device I have to use. Then there's dentistry, an unending horror where insurers only pay a fraction for a lot of services (even in Europe, I believe).
I can imagine. There would be a disconnect with cost. One side would be trying to minimise while the other want to maximise profits. At least with a public system they're the largest provider around and it's in their best interest to have good outcomes while lowering cost.
I don't want to dump on Obama, because what they did accomplish was incredibly difficult and made things so much better than they used to be, but in comparison with a sensible country (some pretty right-wing, like Singapore) it's ridiculous. And vulnerable as we're seeing tonight.
I would be amazed if a family paid less than $1k/mos. These people are out of their minds and out of touch.
There are Obamacare Marketplace subsidies that get low-income people very low premiums, in many cases $0/month. Of course Mullins's party is trying to take those away too. www.kff.org/policy-watch... Those provisions will take healthcare away from more people than the Medicaid changes.
I find healthcare very confusing and clearly am not alone. I feel like some of the Medicaid cuts include these subsidies bc they are Medicaid by another name, but again I don’t fully get it. I have managed care (kaiser) but I know some under it are there under Medicare I think. It’s so confusing…
It is indeed confusing. Here's a quick tutorial: 1. Medicaid is for low-income people and is a true single-payer system. 2. Medicare is for retired and disabled people and makes you pay premiums and copays: if you're too poor, there's a Medicaid *supplement* program that will help.
3. Health Insurance Marketplace, the Obama contribution, is private insurance you can buy online if your employer doesn't pay for health insurance, and it's pretty good, especially for low-income but not really poor people. When my son the bartender turned 26 and got kicked off my employer policy...
...I told him I thought he could get an Obamacare policy but didn't try to help him beyond advice; it took him a year (luckily he's been incredibly healthy) but he did it. The GOP bill may make it unaffordable by cutting the subsidy, but I don't know yet.
4. Medicare Advantage is a way for private insurers to suck money out of the Medicare program, a supplemental policy that may pay for some things where Medicare is unhelpful, but a lot of people don't think it's worthwhile.
The subsidies are the disaster no one's talking about . Heavy subsidies for people working but not making much. Here in Maine, less than $100/mo for a silver plan. (Still deductibles, etc. but you're buying preventative/routine stuff...
Do you have a theory why they're not talking about it? It's only just occurred to me what a big deal it is, not a subject I've been spending a lot of time on in recent years, but Chris Murphy or whoever has to be aware.
There's a lot of moving parts and we live in a soundbite age... www.cnbc.com/2025/05/23/b...
....and a pretty hard cap on the size of the hole something major can blow in your budget.)
Markwayne Moron...
This really makes you think