It's not a tough decision - you have to go for it - even though it probably means getting a lot of people to break a shit-ton of laws. But what else can you do? The GOP are DESTROYING this nation. Goodbye to 'the old ways'

Draw Republicans out of fucking office. Don't be reactive, take the fight to them... and California should do the same. Fuck Texas.

Regarding California, here you go:

Democrats need to be flawless while Republicans get to be lawless

Don’t they learn. They lost a House seat in 2020 when they made an absurd example of gerrymandering. She might regret that comment about “All’s fair…”

And look what centrism got us. We need Joe Rogan's not Chuck Schummer's. Warriors not cowards.

"we need Joe Rogan's" is one of the worst quotes I've read. We got here because we unfortunately had one Joe Rogain we do not need more of them.

He's effective. And we need that. The masses are too stupid to think. We need to herd the sheep towards righteousness for the good of everyone. And our deserved vengeance against evil.

He's been effective at getting trump elected, peddling lies about covid and health and just recently realized himself he's been supporting a pedo he's been told about for years so yea... Effective for the nazis. People with integrity are needed not the ass holes that helped this happen.

My point exactly. You people need to realize that we are at war against evil monsters that will kill us all. And that law, compromise, and pacifism is a weakness. If we want to survive we need to sink to their level.

Go for it. Texas is a hellhole

Well at least some Dems are kinda fighting back lol.

ALLS FAIR IN LOVE & WAR! ❤️

Supreme Court will probably decide it’s unconstitutional for NY.

Do it!! If dems don't, it very well could be something we regret after 2026...like how we had four years to bring Trump to justice but dropped the ball.

About time.! The Republicans do it every time they get in office. But the Democrats? Nope. The Democrats should also do it every time they get in office. But nooo... Democrats are always trying to play nice with Republicans while the Republicans are trying desperately to stab them in the back.

Democrats should make it harder to do. That is the solution, end gerrymandering. It is the popular stance, everyone hates gerrymandering. Them doing it back is just the best of the bad decisions. I want to have a more representative government, not a more rigged one.

Dems can't change the rules for better if they don't have the power to do so. If dems ever get power back, I'm pretty sure they will try to outlaw gerrymandering from either side.

You have way more faith in dems than I do. For what it is worth, I hope that you are right.

Dems have a big incentive to outlaw gerrymandering & voter suppression. Because dems win when everybody's vote is counted. And Republicans know it too. That's why repubs work so hard to find different ways to suppress democratic votes. They know they can't win unless they cheat.

I think that where we disagree is that the Democratic party acts in ways that are rational and consistent with their stated platform. While conservatives have utilized gerrymandering to great effect, a lot of establishment Dems benefit from it as well. It is how we get the massive disconnect (1/2)

folks like Jeffries and Schumer and the voting base. Populists will do far better without gerrymandering than technocrats will. Thus, you get pushback from the ratcheting mechanism that is centrist dems. Ending it would certainly benefit "the party" but at the expense of the leadership.

democrats share the same values, they just want everyone to think they're harmless

DO IT NOW. NO NEED TO WAIT FOR THE OTHER SIDE TO START. THEY’VE ALREADY DONE THAT FOR YEARS. ENOUGH ALREADY. START REDRAWING.

The Trumpers do it so why not?

Looks like DOJ opened another pandora’s box’s 🤦‍♂️

Brilliant thinking!

Please display some fortitude and follow through with your suggestion.

About fucking time. Why aren’t democratic controlled states doing more of this. Hell republican authoritarian fascists have been getting away with it for decades.

Do it !

Look, I understand why this is being talked about. Absolutely. But that doesn't mean I'm getting a warm and fuzzy feeling. It's a bit like Ripley arming the self-destruct in Alien thinking she has plenty of time to cancel the order ...

Pretend you are Nike... and JUST DO IT!

Yup.

🎊🎉

You go girl!!!

Gerrymander the shit out of New York. Let’s repay republicans for everything they did to harm Americans. Fucking traitors.

Do the same in Ca and other blue states. The only way to combat a cult.

Nice!!!

Here we go…

Let it be done...

Good. It's time for Democrats to stop playing nice and bring a butter knife to a gunfight and start being vigilant. Fight fire with fire.

YES PLEASE‼️‼️‼️

*EVERY* Democratic controlled state should do this!

Blue states should stand together. I’d Red states cheat, they leave blue states no choice but to play their game.

It is as simple as the need to fight fire with fire.

Love ❤️ my Gov

Georgia should absolutely play this game.

Those eyes say corruption.

Really? Then what do these eyes say?

Go Kathy!!

Land of freedom... Pfft

Jay fucking Jacobs grow a spine!

Yesssss! 💙

Do it!

Fuck that. NY and Cali should be leading the movement to secede.

Your answer to chaos is more chaos? Constitutional convention of people. No politicians need to apply. If it serves a supermajority, they cannot resist.

Better chaos of our own making - than that against everything we stand for. But hey you are free to stay/go as you wish. Hopefully we WILL be a free country.

The mold is broken to be sure. However initiatives to secede will not gain enough support to make a difference. The best chance is to change the governing document.

I believe the Blue States will be going for autonomy first maintaining the actual rule of law against a 21st century Confederacy Dredd Scott 1858 Robert's Court. A Blue State union of New England, Great Lakes and West Coast Blue States. COVID showed these coalitions were needed after Trump's failure

Im all for as an amicable divorce as possible. Tired of having my tax dollars used to fuck Blue states.

Im going to petition the mayor of Hammond to secede with Chicago/ IL. We're closer to them than the rest of Indiana.

Either all states follow redistricting rules or none do. Those rules for representation are not just for one party! Election continuation matter too much to not be pro-active!

Agree Dems can’t play nice with Republicans cheating

Finally some Dems standing up to the fascist party

Kathy Hochul is great.

Elise wants to run against her, but she’s hedging her bet until after she sees what happens with elections in November.

My opinion if Kathy Hochul just went up

Maryland's First District - Andy Harris' weirdly drawn territory - is a prime target...@govwesmoore.bsky.social‬?!

Yes!!!!

Yes... What other Blue States are doing it… best them at their own game

👏🏽 YES we at war for our Democracy! Gloves Off 🧤

RIGHT ON!! About time democrats stoop to magas corrupt level.

I, like many, had no idea who this lady was when she succeeded Cuomo. But I'm really starting to like her. I think she could be a steady stalwart in an important State.

Do it. It’s the only thing that republicans understand.

Now that's the kind of DEMOCRAT the country needs... More Hochuls...less Schumers...

We shall see. She’s all talk when it comes to anything remotely progressive. In reality she’s a moderate republican.

📌

You must fight fire with 🔥. Just do it!!

🙌🏻

This line from the show and/or comes to mind in this particular situation "we are condemned to use the tools of our enemy in order to defeat them"

Good

MORE OF THIS, PLEASE

Good! Dems need to stop playing nice! We’re up against people with no conscience, no moral compass, and no sense of responsibility. We need to get down in the dirt with them if we want to save this country.

This is a stirring sentiment....only about 40 years too late ...

Agree, but what’s the alternative? Do nothing?

The alternative is for Democrats to STOP TALKING and START DOING.... One thing Dems have always been good at is pointing out what WE need to do ... Another is coming up with excuses for why it didn't happen... Platitudes don't win wars ..WARRIORS WIN WARS.. Too much woke..too little POKE....ya know?

Cali, NY...let's go Mass and Illinois! Dare we push for Pennsylvania? Yes, yes, let's push.💪💪💪💪💪

Great idea!

Don't open the door. Don't form committees. Don't wait and see. Dems love that shit. They're so scared. And while they "seriously ponder" bold action the GOP asks no one, considers no consequences while taking a shit all over democracy. Just shut up and do it. They're trying to steal the midterm!

In a couple days TX will add 5 GOP seats. Ohio soon to follow. In the interim, Dems will review the laws for months and then decide it's too hard and do nothing. GOP in OH literally ignore their state supreme court rulings and just redraw.

I just contacted Pritzker's office, asking him to add a dozen or so Democratic congressional districts in Illinois. Chicago Democrats used to be the GOAT in gerrymandering. Use the knowledge. End this Republican scourge.

👏👍 Take off the gloves. Don’t consider opposition to be sane.

The left need to understand that this nice guy shit is out the door !!! These morons on the right … magats , liars, felons, criminals, evangelical trolls, fox anchor FH’s….. are shoving Project 2025 down our throats and the obese orange felon is copying orbach, putin and many other of his”heroes”!

Ok, I get it. The current administration is the most corrupted we have ever seen. But there is a reason the dems were rejected. There is a mechanism that has not been gavled in to session in 249 years. However it MUST serve a supermajority. 51% vote of no confidence 60% to ratify the new document.

Eliminate all GOP representatives in NY state. Like the GOP has done to the Dems in North Carolina.

About time!!!!

It’s a good thing the Robert’s court made gerrymandering legal in 2019. I hope California gets a measure on the ballot in time for the fall primary so they can redraw maps before the midterms.

Fight fire with fire Dems.

As usual. It takes a woman to lead the charge for true change in America. The Republicans have been playing dirty for more than a decade.

It’s good to see somebody in the Democratic Party throw some punches instead of rolling over and being castrated.

Now let’s do the same thing in all blue states. And let’s see how MAGAt like it. If you can do it, I can do it better.

Far out

I life how these Dems act like their such amazing strategists. Gerrymandering has been used by republicans for decades. And I’ll believe it when I see it Kathy.

Good, fight fire with fire. Now isn't the time to rely on norms and traditions when Trump and his cult are actively burning the whole place down.

Im no fan of unfair maps, but if they are the only way to fight even worse offenses, then so be it. We fought for fairer maps once and won, we can do it again when the republic itself is no longer under threat

Your move, Texas.

JUST DO IT..

and if Cali were to follow suite

Has she checked with AIPAC?

👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

I, for one Western NYer, approve this!!!

Republicans opened a Pandora’s box 😂🤣

The difference between Dems is they're hesitant to play dirty even when their opponent has been for decades whereas Republicans will rip out your nails, rape your kids, and then cry out about how you're worse than Stalin or Hitler if you call them meanies and only you do bad things.

Good. I hope California does the same.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

They lied, cheated and stole control of our country. We need a new perspective if we are going to wrench control back from these evil bastards! Past conventions are no longer effective. Rank and file Democratic thinking is not what will lead us out of this crisis!

Get ‘em Kathy!

Let’s go!

You have to fight fire with fire. Repugs want Democrats to fight fair while they cheat like hell!

Still a bad governor

Time for the Dems to level the playing field.

YES! War is dirty and we have to accept that, no more playing nice

If it is good for them well Dems better start playing their games.

Chops! That friends is how the game is played. Great example to follow.

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Good for her!! Go get'm'

there should be some sort of mathematical formula that draws out districting in a plainly simple uniform way that is universally applied so that all parties hate it but are denied the opportunity to manipulate the outcome - but there aren't any proposals pending to do anything of the sort - so sad

There are; but partisan redistricting is by design. The people who benefit from safe districts are the ones voting on the boundaries of the districts

Algorithmic redistricting can be manipulated, just roll the dice until you get a valid but biased map. The system must be independent and maintained as independent. Notice how cracking open independent institutions and partanizing them has been a core goal this time around.

Canada has a solution, a separate non-partisan authority called Elections Canada does it. Federal elections are not under control of the highly partisan State Governors. www.elections.ca/content.aspx...

i'll check it out.

No proposals???? Are you LYING or just horribly uninformed? The whole point here is that NEW YORK ALREADY DOES THAT. They’re proposing doing away with NY’s fair districting to counter the unfair districting in other states!

nothing at the national level. each state should have the same rules - but guess that's what we get with the constitutions loose federalism

Tests were proposed to the Supreme Court and dismissed out of hand by Republican justices. And Democrats in the House passed a whole bill about this. Just stop. This isn’t a bothsides problem. This isn’t something nobody knows how to fix. It’s just another example of Republicans being tyrants.

more proposals along these lines please - behind paywall but the abstract describes the gist www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...

sure, not standing up to tyranny paves the way to its ascension

this article also notes that redistricting can only be done every ten years per the constitution - wonder has that been brought to bear in legal challenges

these things are only ever as good as the intentions of those involved in the process

Just do it

Just need California to redistrict and they'll never win an election again

Yes, please!!!

My guess is that Gavin (being a centrist) wouldn’t do it because he is trying to court “both sides” for his 2028 presidential run.

Gavin is already pursuing it. He’s going to get it done.

I hope that is true. I’ve lost a lot of faith in him and his judgment by his giving maga a platform on his podcast.

Go for it!

i will never understand why she gets so much hate besides refusing to tax the rich

I think Hochul should be a contender in 2028

0 chance.

Maybe VP. We can’t afford to make the mistake of having a woman candidate again.

As a New Yorker, living in Albany, like three blocks away from Capital Hill, no. She's a fine Governor, but she'd get clobbered on the national stage. President isn't the be all, end all of politics. We need capable politicians on every level.

But um we now know that even a Roomba could be POTUS so why not her?!?

No talk, action. Every one please keep pressuring your state reps and governors in blue states to gerrymander. Repugnants don’t just talk, they follow orders from the corrupt orange tyrant in the WH and they will do it.

Did I say gerrymander? I meant redraw maps to reflect population growth. 😉

Good for her! Fight fire with fire.

About damn time.

Fucking finally!

Only took what, 40 years for the box to actually yield its plagues?

Twenty actually. Florida has been smited by God ever since Marco Rubio. It's just that Floridians are flagellators and love pain.

Love pain, you say? Hmmmmmmmm...

You go girl!

Hochul makes gerrymandering sound like a Freudian pursuit.

The fact that the USA's electoral boundaries are so easily open to flagrant corruption is reason #573 that the USA is a failed democracy. A 'normal' democracy would have a national independent electoral commission operating with strict rules around delineation of electoral boundaries.

I agree. But in the face of lacking such, i also approve of fighting fire with fire.

I’ve vast majority of voters are sick and tired of the system that puts them over a barrel. There is one universal issue. Our government is broken and refuses to fix itself from within. It is the responsibility of the people to repair it from a constitutional conference It must serve a supermajority

Do it please

Can we send our politicians to an actual war? I think it'd improve our lives immensely.

Nice NY! California, you’re next…. Fight fire with fire 🔥 That’s how we have to deal with these Republican assholes.

ACTION OVER WORDS

Long overdue to start playing by the new fucking rules

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Start the process before you run out of time! Key up any needed amendments to the state constitution. Start working on gerrymandering maps. Get those ads ready to explain any state constitutional amendment ballot issues.

Gloves off, MFers!

Smart woman!

We will see.. The soft and weak democrats are incapable of playing dirty and rough. That’s why we are where we are. Journalists , democrats don’t have courage and convictions.

Entirely too much announcing is being made for what is essentially a menial administrative act. How about you just fucking do it and then clean your school districts funding scheme while you’re at it?

All's fair in love and war. Fuck Trump

DO IT!!

Fuck yea We have to do this all over the country when they do it we’ll do it

Take a look at it??? JUST DO IT FFS

This is a crisis, Democrats need to do what is necessary. They can go back to fairness after Trump's unconstitutional effects are completely erased.😡

What else can she do?

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It’s not love or war it’s dirty MAGA GOP Trump politics which they can never win without cheating.

Facts!

Yass

Fuck Texas republicans. They are dirty, ammoral, cheating cunts.

NY to Texas: “Hold my beer.”

Let’s go

YES!!!!!

Every Blue State should be already working on it!

Stop keeping NY21 a safe district for Stefanik.

Do it!!!

I don’t understand why the Dems are saying if you redraw, we redraw. Redraw the lines no matter what. Let’s be proactive, not reactive.

Because we aren’t going to toss out the constitution.

Your enemy has ripped up the constitution already. You are not in a deterrence game now you are in an escalation game. Push every line and do it first and more viciously than they do. Lose the mid terms and you will not get another chance.

Go kathy

Fight this raging fascist fire with fire

Go Kathy!! It’s time fight fire with fire!!!

North Carolina is heavily gerrymandered. Fight fire with fire.

This from the Terminator: "That's better" Punch em back to equalize !

Let’s go CA and NY. Beat Republicans at their own game.

Time to put on the muscle suits!!

If Texas does it, blue states MUST do it too.

Hey, they want to play that game? We can play, too. In fact, it’s high time we played like they do.

Finally. All blue states must do the same.

The time is long past for us to use the same redistricting tactics the republicans do. Alls fair in love and war. The gloves are off.

Do it, girl

All's fair baby!! 💙

Well, finally! Don't consider it, DO IT! Jay Jacobs needs to stfu. We won't save the democracy playing by the rules when the other side isn't. We're no longer debating, we're no longer fighting, we're at war for our country and it's people. Gov. Hochul has it right 'All's fair in love and war'.

I live in MAGA country in Central New York. MAGAts outnumber non-MAGAts around 10 to 1. I sincerely hope Hochul does this. It'll be quite entertaining to watch the MAGAts heads explode when they get marginalized into oblivion.

S.tier has so many trumpers. I'm looking forward to this happening. Lol

I hope she starts with Stefanik. The schadenfreude would be delicious...

I know that area well. Much of my extended family lives in the Central Leatherstocking region, and I spent many childhood summers there (and some winters). We visit as often as we can. It's beautiful up there, but the MAGA culture is depressing.

I'm in that region. Yes, I love it here. Your characterization of the MAGA culture is being too nice. It's stifling at times. It's challenging to keep a tight lip when the ignorance spews like an overflowing waterfall. I smile and walk away. It's impossible to convince zombies otherwise.

I agree, it was too kind, possibly informed by family members in the cult whom I still love and care about. I *do* find that depressing, but as you alluded to, the problem is much worse — tragic, and a dangerous existential threat.

Great.

Assuming this allows them to win, they should follow up by banning gerrymandering and redistricting everything fairly

If they get five, we'll make 7.

Do It

It’s about time one Dem plays by the Pubs’ rules. It’s almost like we may be getting tired of losing. Almost.

DAMN RIGHT!

Please speak with someone else besides the worthless Jeffries 🙏

Exactly all is fair in love and war. See Texas. youtu.be/p3PRBsTO3zk

This is war for love of country.

Do it!!!

Fight fire with fire that’s the way to handle these Bastards!

If Texas does it, every blue state should follow their lead and point it out.

Yup, you've gotta fight fire with fire.

The list misapplied, inaccurate saying ever. Nothing is fair in either love of war! At least not in this Satanically driven world. Thank God his soon will soon clean up this demonic mess!

Yes! Use the smallest District Rs have drawn to redraw just the same as they do. R represent empty land, not people!

As soon as Republicans get the tables turned on them, they whine about how unfair Democrats are. Takeaway: Every Republican accusation is an admission. Thank you for your attention in this matter. lol

Gerrymander the living fuck out of it. All blue states should.

There's a governor with balls!

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