California Dems would take Newsom over Harris in a 2028 presidential primary, according to a new poll.
California Dems would take Newsom over Harris in a 2028 presidential primary, according to a new poll.
Newsom brings the fight to the party that's been missing for decades.
Of course, he’s a white male!! 🤬
We see how racist the USA is .. she is amazing but has no chance ..
This not saying anything but "we still suck."
So misogyny wins again huh?
And he would lose just like Harris, because he is anti-trans, anti-unhoused, and platforms Nazis. He is not my ally.
Whats Trump then in your opinion ?
A racist fascist. Next question?
So you‘d rather vote for a third party no name than for a proper opponent to Trump?
I'd love to vote for a proper opponent to Trump. Let us know when you come up with one, because this ain't it.
Mamdani might be a good start. Voting, for either party, will not get us out of this. We have never had free and fair elections in this country; the American democratic experiment is over.
Well I suppose you didn’t vote for Harris last election, don’t you think that would have been smarter ?
I voted for Harris. I also voted for Biden, who won and still did nothing to prevent our current mess or make my life better in any tangible, lasting way. Electoral politics will not save us.
And what kind of politics would you prefer ?
I would prefer that people participate directly in forming and sustaining egalitarian community structures that enable us to provide for one another, as opposed to expending that energy rallying around charismatic individuals vying for power within an authoritarian hierarchy.
Ah yes, the Left's addiction to purity politics, a result of their deep desire to LOSE. Ever hear of "realpolitik"? Of course not, because Dems and Democratic supporters can't make tough decisions to WIN elections, preferring to think that their shit don't stink and that's all that matters.
"Purity politics" to YOU is your willingness to throw my survival under the bus as a canary. I AM NOT YOUR CANARY! I will not willing die so YOU can feel comfortable in fascism-lite.
Yea man, sorry for being a decent human being.
"His core beliefs are diametrically opposed to mine." "Ah, purity politics!" I don't regret coming back to Bluesky. AI can't make shit this good.
100% right. The Purity Police don't seem to realize that trans rights will never be secured when Republicans win, and will likely be secured under Democratic administrations. And also...when we lose our democracy to fascism, no one will be debating trans rights anymore.
Excuse me, but Democrats in several states have voted FOR anti-trans bathroom bills. We are NOT being protected by the Dems.
And we have already lost our democracy to fascism. You're just late to the realization.
You might have this backwards. The left is actually quite used to coting for whoever wins the primary. It's "finding common ground" with the republicans that leads to electoral defeat again and again. Also, I think in this context "realpolitik" means the opposite of what you are suggesting
bah..."voting"
What fucking world do you live in, idiot? The last 3 democratic candidates were MODERATES 2 lost, and the only one who actually won, wind up sabotaging the next election. You people are so fucking stupid, you idiots are just as fucking dangerous as MAGA
sounds like you need our votes to win
Sounds like you aren’t willing to make the hard choices ***to*** win, that’s the point, pendejo.
Hard choices? Try putting your body on the line to do more than just "vote harder" and back your talk up with some action.
what hard choices are you referring to?
So Elian, if a candidate supported segregation, would you accuse African Americans of applying a “purity test” if they said they wouldn’t vote for that?
I would too!
White man over a woman. Shocking.
At this point, I'll take ANY decent and sane human being.
Harris had her shot. She chose Israel over America. I personally think her political career is dead now.
Newsom/Beshear - that's the only winning ticket for the Dems
Barf. I wouldn't even show up for that. If the DNC decides women aren't good enough to back as candidates, then I'm sure my icky female vote and my female free labor for their campaign and my female donations also aren't good enough for the party.
The DNC did decide - twice - Hillary & Kamala - we all know how that worked out. We can be idealistic or realistic. Keep pushing for a specified agenda and keep losing. The most qualified candidates should be the nominees, no matter race or gender
Gross
You focus on this? What a failure you all are!
Duh
Earth is burning Fracking is evil
Stop. Neither has mentioned they are running. As a Democrat I know Newsom might run but that's only because he's being asked to since he was the only Democrat who wasn't afraid to fight these American Nazi's. Now our entire party is fighting.
The problem on the Left is that to get all the various factions, each with very specific agendas, agreeing to unify the party by support for one candidate is like trying to herd cats! Each faction wants their favored cause to take immediate precedence and any “hesitancy” sends them scurrying away
None of the above, aka same old corporate-backed moderate Democrat inaction that brought us to this point in the first place. AOC '28
People want fighters.
He’s the one.
Harris is not a viable option. She fought, she lost and she’s a remnant of the past. Great capable woman, no doubt. With merit, but the sooner she makes clear she will not be running, the better. Or do democrats want a rerun of Biden’s tardy decision?
do they want to lose?
Understandable, one reminds the public of a lost election and the other is seen as a fighter in the present
I like Kamala, but she’s too nice! After this Trumpster fire of a presidency, we need someone equally mean and vindictive to undo all the bullshit Trump and his cronies have done, are doing to this country!!
we the ppl rejected dems' radical left/communist/socialist-insanity last election: illegals first americans last; criminals first victims last; males in womens' sports; GREED TO TURN ALL SWING STATES BLUE PERMANENTLY w/ medicare/citizenship for illegals aka reform. dems r lost. youtu.be/9YrqCciWOdU
Galvin
It seems like every time a Dem stands up to trump people get excited and crown them the next Dem presidential candidate. Can't we simply appreciate their courage and willingness to speak out? We can be inspired to action. Let them be a hero for a day, even though they're just doing their job.
He has just enough narcissism, snark, and arrogance to stand up to the bully fascist regime. We need that show of force of someone who’s willing to actually back it up with ACTION. Kamala & the rest of the Dems are still stuck in their mindset of kumbaya & peace - bitch, please.
Well, he’s shown more gumption than she ever has tbh. She didn’t even contest the obviously manipulated election results in 2024 - even though a great many of us voters could SEE that something was off!😒👎🏻
Listen, I'm not over the moon about Newsom. Like, at all. But you can't get wiped in that important of an election and expect to have a career in front of you. This poll is maybe the least surprising thing I've heard all day.
Wow, is anybody surprised by this? He is a white man and she isn’t. I have nothing against Senator Newsom and think he would be a great President.
Nothing will be free, fair, and peaceful in 2028 if Trump does us the terrible misfortune of staying alive.
wow, that sucks
No. He has amused me with his tweet attacks but no.
Also, unless it’s AL Gore, you lose the general once, you don’t get a second chance.
You ran a poll for someone who already said she wasn’t going to run?
My perspective she needs to get back on her feet and dust off! Go at it again.
She’s not running. What is the point of this?
Likely to simply just point out the level of current support that Newsom is enjoying at the moment. That can change as past issues can come to light.
So true.
They both suck. Will never vote for either of them again. NEVER.
So start your own 🤭😂
Glad to have Gavin neutering Texas, but he is still a corporate dem. Should he bc dem candidate for 2028, we vote him in at out peril. It could be a time for real changes—getting corp & dark money out of politics, avoiding another demogogue takeover in the future. Corp $ out won’t happen w Gavin.
None of the above. We need a true progressive. I'd take them both over Trump without thinking but they aren't what we need.
And you really think you've got a choice? Without compromising there's going to be Maga forever. Astounding, that so many political purists are still not clocking that!
Then this country deserves what it gets. It's not about being a "purist" it's about leaving behind all the crap from the past that hasn't worked.
Because maybe it doesn’t make sense to keep doing the same thing that didn’t work
Pass. On both of them, but especially Newsom. He can be a "pitbull" or whatever he's painting himself as, but he should not be president.
So, you're in favour of the Trump presidency now? Or Vance after that?
notably didn't talk about the election 9 months ago. Probably one of those "I didn't vote don't blame me" people. You know, the people that put us in this situation
Ah yes, because what I said DEFINITELY means I am okay with Trump, and rabid posting about politics to my echo chamber is the only way to prove I voted.
For the record, I canvassed for (and by extension, voted for) Kamala Harris. Of course I'll vote for the Democratic candidate, but Newsom is dead wrong on trans rights and Harris's "at least I'm not Trump! Did you know Liz Cheney likes me?!" strategy was laughable in hindsight.
Ofc u can laugh at a time like this, typical behavior. I definitely don't find misogynoir funny, that's for sure.
Uh, what? Explain where I'm maligning a black woman for being a black woman... by disagreeing with her policies and strategy to win by positioning herself next to "centrist" Republicans who are not Trump.
Yea, yea, yea- color me unimpressed. I get it, "you gotta black friend and you're doing your part" or whatever. Doesn't negate the fact that we've been swimming up to our necks in tan suit territory.
Got it, I'll blindly follow a politician I disagree with three years before the election based solely on her gender and skin color. No issues there.
I'm squashing this accelerationist talking point anywhere i see it. No, kicking the can down the road and preserving the life boats we've spent decades cobbling together is nowhere near the same as saying fuck it while lighting our children on fire.
I don't know a lot about Newsom and some people are quite aggressive about not liking him. However, I'll vote for him if he can remove the current Nazi cancer. I voted for Harris and would again too, same scenario.
lmao - That's only because he's a white dude.
Sadly, to win national elections you need a decent looking white dude talking about everyday economics at a third grade level. That’s how dumb and shallow we are as a nation. Rather have someone at least persuadable and living in reality than some kook fascist though.
So far he’s the only that has taken Trump on, I wish he would just smack the holy shit out of Trump
Nobody asked you!
Newsom would win the presidential election because my dad looked at a picture of him and said "eh he's good looking and seems like he knows what he's doing" which I shit you not is how most Americans make the decision to vote
lol what other candidates is he beating
So what’s your point?
Newsom should not hang out with Kamala. She will drag him down.
Kamala was a lousy VP and candidate for President. She needs to retire.
who cares. the "anti-trump" platform isn't working. if he wants a chance to win, do something with california. house the needy, make a fast train, reduce the price of gas-show people you can do stuff already. yeah, that's hard stuff, but your opponent is getting all sorts of (awful) stuff done.
Yes, because when all is said and done we are still a very sexist nation...but then Harris disappeared for too long after the last race just when we needed her loud and proud fighting fascism.
She needed us to be loud and proud last November and we fucked it up. She doesn’t owe us a goddamn thing.
I was loud and proud last November, and I was hammering away at every Dem I encountered about the importance of voting for Harris...I don't think it was our fault. I think the fix was in and she couldn't win no matter what. But it felt like she gave up and disappeared after.
We didn’t show up for her. She doesn’t owe us anything.
Don’t take the bait for Dem splitting
Cool- quit propping up losers and maybe we can escape this hellscape-
They’re basically exactly the same thing. Except Gavins hates Trans people.
Excellent! No chance of a Democratic Presidency in 2028 then!
Good. She shouldn’t have to come in and clean up this mess. We don’t deserve her yet.
she caused the mess but ok, keep living like a medieval peasant idolizing your royalty
... wait, Newsom really is running for president in 2028?
Of course.
We liked Gavin for the 2024 presidential election too; thanks for asking idiots
i absolutely will not vote for newsome. doing funny tweets and then going on right wing talk shows to say trans people need fewer rights is some hillary clinton style misreading of the moment
Because she already lost once, and 90 million voters did not vote. I hate it, I hate that we cannot elect a woman, but we have lost ground and if we have any hope, it has to be younger man who is a firebrand. Can’t believe I’m saying that, but it’s the truth and much is at stake.
I'm afraid the dems are going to try to run Whitmer. She is probably qualified but she will not win. Will dems ever learn? Even a female V.P. is not a good idea in this climate. Biden should not have chosen Harris in the first place. She was a fantastic senator.
No she won’t win the primary. She’s made her bed.
She was?
Until there is a woman candidate who can win the White Woman vote from the GOP, it is pointless to run them. How they can't lock up that demographic is beyond me.
Not that hard to see how the GOP keeps them locked in. They sell WW that POC are out to rape and murder them, LGBTQ will convince their children to use litter boxes, and if they want to keep 2nd place in society, they need to shut up and get in line behind white GOP men. Otherwise they’ll be last.
Considering some of the very misogynist language the modern right is using, and the anti-choice language, and the skyrocketing maternal mortality rights, I question the thought processes of white women.
Using Fear and Ignorance to convince people to vote against their interests is the entire game plan of the billionaire Republican Party. They use it on every single demographic, including working class white men.
It does say something about the ignorance and/or stupidity of the American electorate that they can't use critical thinking skills to figure out their own best interests.
try a woman who isn't a huge genocide enthusiast maybe you'll get somewhere
Over three years from now. Cut it out.
In 2028, the resistance will need to put someone at the top of the ticket who can appeal to dissatisfied citizens who voted for Trump in 2024. Many of them have traditional views. This is the unfortunate box we find ourselves in at the moment.
Stop trying to make Gavin Newsom happen. It's not happening.
Democrats determined to lose again.
If Harris wants to be considered then she NEEDS to be out in public like Newsom is, now, not in two years.
Politico trying to cause division
So would I.
Kamala isn't running Gavin is a white male and would obviously be the preferred choice even if Kamala was rubbing I don't need to explain further
*running. I fucking HATE spell check sometimes changing words I never asked to be changed
This is a poll conducted by asking Californians who they’d pick for President in 2028. The field of Democrats won’t just be two Democrats from California. There will be a lot more Democrats running in the Democrat primaries this time around. Will the DNC derail candidates like they did in the past?
You aren't a legitimate source of information. Just tell us what your billionaire overlords wants up front- we can handle it
Maybe stop with the 2028 polls in 2025. It’s reckless. Likely won’t be either.
I would too.
You needed a poll to tell you that?
If they think I'm voting or door knocking or phone banking for another dusty old centrist white man because the DNC has decided it's easier to be sexists than best them, get fucked. His campaign is cute. I laughed. Great social media team. But fuck the DNC for deciding that makes a candidate.
The DNC hasn’t decided he’s the candidate, drama queen. Take a chill.
Cool, enjoy Vance or Donny Jr
Yeah this is what I find baffling. You don't exactly get to be picky with your opposition to fascism right now.
Yep. Like it or not, we currently have a two party system. So your choice is an imperfect candidate or white nationalists. Not hard
What do you mean you don’t get to be picky? That’s what primaries are for
Getting all hyped up on who the candidates will be? Unless donor money under control the oligarchy will be the ones who decide on who candidates will be as always regardless of party.
Hmmm, 2028? Newsom is clear as a bell with his message: It's crucial to our democracy that we win back the House in 2026 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is how conservative Democrats and AIPAC keep control on the parties path. The push candidates that uphold the status quo and block progressive and moderates who want to work for the American workers instead of billionaires, lobbyists and corporations.
Fake poll, but I am sure #AmericanVoters want a better candidate than Newsom and Harris. Voters want options, not a forced pick.
Suggestions? And are you willing to work for, financially support, and canvass for your pick?
The people don't want these types of corporate ghouls anymore. We want candidates who will come thru with more progressive policies, like Universal Healthcare & affordable living. (Just to name a few) Fuck Gavin & Kamala, fuck them up their stupid asses.
Newsom is just another corporate Democrat, not interested. I do like how he trolls Trump though.
i'd take a new hole in my head to either of these freaks, got anyone who's actually like, good?
I think there is a huge appetite among Dems for a ruthless fighter. Anyone who doesn’t fit that bill will struggle. Newsome understands that the 2028 race is underway. If you don’t effectively get in now it’ll be too late to join later.
Duh
Ugh But it's because he's a white male Don't forget he's happy to maggot out when it suits his policltical aspirations
You are buying into the Republican Spin, there is only one objective, defeating Trump and his minions
❤️👍
They'd probably take someone picked at random over Kamala. Or a bag of chips. Or a shoe.
I mean the dude’s present and fighting, while Kamala’s MIA.
Both are huge pieces of neoliberal shit.
Well, we've seen what Harris can do, and that's not much. I see no reason for her to get a 2nd bite at the apple.
I’d be shocked if the ticket isn’t Newsom/AOC.
I'd like to see AOC with a Biden style moderate as VP