i think states need to be able to keep more of the federal money they generate within the states at this point. i do not want to pay for ice or billionaire tax cuts. id rather see my state make better use, by a factor of about a billion, of this money than the feds are doing now
i had no problem subsidizing red states before this regime. spreading risks, making life a bit better for everyone is fine this hellish landscape of dragging people away from loved ones and tossing them into jails or other countries IS NOT FINE
giving a bonanza away to billionaires who do not need it IS NOT FINE enabling the most orgasmic wish list fossil fuel companies could possibly hope for IS NOT FINE
unfortunately since most of us pay taxes directly to the irs without the involvement of our state, this isn’t easily accomplished, to my knowledge. unless you, as a House rep, have some ideas on that?
Lol why were you fine with subsidizing states that brag about low taxation and lax regulation? Fuck that noise!
because there are lots of innocents everywhere that can’t help where they live. because disasters don’t look at borders. because health crises sweep through everywhere. lots of reasons.
And there are LOTS of innocents in blue states that will suffer. Everyone is suffering.
But they still choose to live there. They vote the way they vote. People make CHOICES. They aren’t always easy, but if it’s that bad, leave. Disasters r different tho. My comments for the daily life stuff. The problem, is that we HAVE been subsidizing them, and they keep kicking us in the teeth for
Those living in poverty do not always have an option to pull up stakes and move to a new location. We should stop subsidizing corporations and giving billionaires tax breaks. We're in a jam right now but we should plan for a time when we're not on the brink of fascism.
It, tell us how dumb and stupid we r for voting for higher taxes and supporting “welfare queens”. Because they don’t understand the reality of it all, it’s brought us to this exact point.
When it's me and mine vs them - it will ALWAYS be me and mine. And THAT is the position we were forced into. I didnt ask for this. But I sure as HELL am not going to bend over and spread my cheeks for them.
This is my question too! I definitely want to stop funding this “administration” (especially since we’d be held hostage if we had some kind of disaster and needed fed funds). But how??
see, i don’t think there’s actually any way to do this without civil war which is why i find it interesting to see a house rep essentially saying this, bc they should know perfectly well how taxes work
What I’ve always thought. But cutting the federal social safety net hurts red states more than blue states so it’s kind of an own goal by Republicans.
sure. but ice, billionaire taxes, gutting of federal agencies (hhs, ssa, doj, etc) is an existential threat to us all regardless of individual state politics
Cutting state and international funding on infectious disease hurts everyone and poverty (and all the associated long-term societal costs) hurts everyone & the wider economy. But controls on tax cuts, gerrymandering, gun control, electoral college reform etc. could achieve minimal harm.
i’m not entirely sure what argument you are making here—that we should or should not attempt to reserve federal taxes to the state they were generated in?
We should reserve more taxes in state but not take away completely from red states, if projects would just cause wider societal & economic harm. But red states willing to meaningfully enagage on issues that benefit all states through economic benefits(e.g. improved gun control) can get more.
one thing i advocated for last january was for california to keep its taxes and put them in escrow to be used in FEMA-style aid to disaster areas (regardless of state)—before i understood the full amt involved for CA [800bn] and the practical difficulty of intercepting this money
but i think mutual aid pacts would be a more complex layer that would develop on top of fed tax claw-back, and lm we even figure that part out; and that alone could precipitate civil war bc this regime very much wants all that money
Fair warnings: 1) my response to you was this AM after only 1/2 cup of coffee. 2) I’m never quite sure how to follow the threads on BlueSky as to who is replying to whom so I hope I got it right. But anyway, the initial thought was blue states should stop subsidizing red states.
sure. and my response was that the reason i want (technically all) states to pull back federal funding is to stop ice/billionaire funding. it is not because i want to somehow punish red states. maga is doing that just fine by going after all of us.
yes that hurts red states bc they never bothered with improving things for their residents. no, that’s not my goal. all the blame for those particular consequences goes to those states’ respective govts and politicians but at this point, ALL of us are being hurt via ice/billionaire funding.
You replied that would be nice in your first reply and why. I agree but I also agreed with a later reply that this is impossible because the only way that could happen is that states would have to intercept tax revenue flows from individuals and corps that are currently paid to the US treasury.
But I also asserted that since red states are bigger consumers of transfer payment programs like Medicaid, Social security disability, SNAP, housing, and other programs based on household income AND that MAGA is trying to gut those programs, then it only follows that less revenues of blue state….
….will flow to red states as a result, except that blue state government has little control of it and will see no windfall benefit from. Your reply to me then greatly expanded the discussion to include tax cuts, ice, doj…i.e. well beyond the transfer payments.
The fact is that there is only one issue that matters that is the federal courts, including SCOTUS, upholding all our laws, and taking hardline, and unique measures to enforce their decisions if MAGA chooses to disregard them…
Take as many deductions as is allowed, and start there. It is hard, because when u have a w-2 job, it’s automatic, so u jsut have to get…creative… 🤣🤣🥰
so that’s an individual response and two observations: hard to coordinate a widespread response to the fed’s rod way, they’d never notice it and makes the fewer who do it more vulnerable to retaliation (the real point is to lose the entire income from a state in full)
Yep! But the problem is, it also gave them the ILLUSION that their “Republican values” were working just fine, BECAUSE they were being subsidized. Blue states jsut enabled them. The very thing the claim “welfare” and “food stamps” do…
If they want the states to govern themselves, then they need the funds to do so