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Carl T. Bergstrom

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Professor, UW Biology / Santa Fe Institute I study how information flows in biology, science, and society. Book: *Calling Bullshit*, http://tinyurl.com/fdcuvd7b LLM course: https://thebullshitmachines.com Corvids: https://tinyurl.com/mr2n5ymk he/him

created April 27, 2023

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Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I love them

1/9/2025, 9:45:42 PM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Nine former CDC directors, from Bill Foege onward, speak out about the incalculable harm that RFK, Jr. is doing to public health in the US and around the world. Gift link.

1/9/2025, 8:52:02 PM | 371 145 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

There are a couple of dozen covers out there, including one by Robert Earl Keen, but the song strikes me as dreadfully underappreciated. As for Norman Blake, I like his version with Nancy on Blind Dog. Her cello is essential.

1/9/2025, 3:32:01 AM | 19 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Almost forty years ago – as long as ill-fated Sarah has lived without her dead gunslinger in the song — I first heard Norman and Nancy Blake performing Billy Gray. It's a near-perfect song, a song that is difficult to believe was written in the late 20th century rather than the late 19th.

1/9/2025, 3:27:49 AM | 78 6 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reposted

Perhaps most stimulating paper I've read this year explores the economic consequences of attention being scarce, rivalrous, cognitive, and volitional. Reading it while listening to the Tony Rice Unit and drinking a lovely Jester King beer gets rather meta as my attention splits among them.

31/8/2025, 4:49:37 AM | 191 30 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

You can grab a can at growler guys. There’s something wrong with my taste buds so that I can’t stand Citra, but it’s backgrounded and so even for me the bear is great.

31/8/2025, 7:58:32 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

IMO their IPAs are the least impressive of their line. Their low ABV german styles and their wild ales are the most impressive. But whatever is on offer, goodness yes.

31/8/2025, 6:18:15 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Of every record in my collection this is perhaps the one that leaves me most at a loss about what to play next after it finishes. It's far too short and there's just nothing you can follow it with.

31/8/2025, 6:14:24 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Here in the states we don't show up to the Amtrak station until an hour after the scheduled departure because we're not stupid....

31/8/2025, 6:12:46 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

You're not in the states, are you!

31/8/2025, 6:04:14 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

And yes, the cans are welcome. It was always 750s from the masonry, which was fabulous, but probably not optimal for distribution.

31/8/2025, 5:14:07 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

For over a decade, my rule of thumb has been to try anything of theirs that I can get my hands on at any price.

31/8/2025, 5:13:14 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Apparently, they just started distributing in Washington. For a while, I had to hook up through the Masonry in Fremont. But they closed many years ago.

31/8/2025, 5:09:00 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

Perhaps most stimulating paper I've read this year explores the economic consequences of attention being scarce, rivalrous, cognitive, and volitional. Reading it while listening to the Tony Rice Unit and drinking a lovely Jester King beer gets rather meta as my attention splits among them.

31/8/2025, 4:49:37 AM | 191 30 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Erinn O'Dear (@erinnthered.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

He addressed this, and I tend to agree.

30/8/2025, 8:41:28 PM | 18 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Yeah, this does seem entirely plausible and survives Occam’s razor more cleanly than any of the other palace intrigue scenarios I can come up with.

30/8/2025, 8:57:09 PM | 13 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Well, there goes my Saturday.

30/8/2025, 8:55:18 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

The interesting part is why someone made the fraud so obvious. Even ChatGPT does a much better fake.

TOTAL DISASTER in the Rose Garden!!! The NEW limestone-absolutely PERFECT stone, the most BEAUTIFUL in the world, everyone said so-was DESTROYED by a contractor I call
30/8/2025, 8:21:03 PM | 114 6 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Someone doing an obviously fraudulent job of posting a rant that makes the president look like a total dingus in the way that he frequently makes himself look like one, on a subject that doesn’t directly further anyone’s policy goals in any way—so many potential levels of palace intrigue here.

30/8/2025, 8:15:27 PM | 201 9 | View on Bluesky | view

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30/8/2025, 8:12:15 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I tried that, but ChatGPT does a much better job.

TOTAL DISASTER in the Rose Garden!!! The NEW limestone-absolutely PERFECT stone, the most BEAUTIFUL in the world, everyone said so-was DESTROYED by a contractor I call
30/8/2025, 8:05:21 PM | 11 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

What’s particularly odd is that this is not Trump‘s cadence or writing style.

30/8/2025, 7:57:56 PM | 425 53 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Time extremely well spent.

30/8/2025, 6:04:53 PM | 6 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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🪶

30/8/2025, 7:14:57 AM | 248 11 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Ah, didn't know that about that move. Yes, I have lots of midflight pictures, but mostly all blurry. A few tolerable ones here and there.

30/8/2025, 1:06:01 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Flashback Friday: Ruby-crowned kinglet, December 20th, 2022. Don't think I ever posted this one—and if I did, I had about 200 followers here at the time.

Ruby-crowned kinglet, a small round bird with short yellow tail, in the snow
29/8/2025, 5:39:50 PM | 409 44 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Badlands indeed.

29/8/2025, 5:54:39 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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29/8/2025, 5:52:01 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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29/8/2025, 5:51:43 AM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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29/8/2025, 5:51:26 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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29/8/2025, 5:51:11 AM | 7 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

This seems deliberately obtuse. There are authoritative sources of data, and then there is slop filled with AI hallucinations. Fact checkers don't conduct forensic investigations of source documents, but they do verify that quoted facts come from authoritative sources.

29/8/2025, 3:15:53 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

"Just append -ai to your search" is the "you're prompting it wrong" of Google stans. 1) It's a broad-audience consumer technology. It shouldn't suck by default. 2) Appending -ai to your search doesn't keep Google from returning third party AI slop in the search results.

29/8/2025, 2:36:33 AM | 399 38 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Jasper 'Lope (@jasperlope.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

Welcome to the Mariners Webring! << Prev Site | Next Site >>

29/8/2025, 2:32:06 AM | 22 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Goddamn it my heart actually gave a little leap and I was clicking to bookmark for a millisecond there.

29/8/2025, 2:33:45 AM | 8 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Was it correct? And if so, how did you know?

29/8/2025, 2:31:53 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I ended up choosing a link that went to a domain that I know and trust, which is approximately a 26-year setback in internet search technology.

29/8/2025, 2:17:19 AM | 118 9 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

What was interesting about writing this post was I didn't know how to fact check it. Five years ago I would have typed "Mariners roster by age" into Google. Today I got an mix of wrong AI summary, followed by links to sites that ranged from out-of-date and wrong, to AI slop and wrong, to correct.

29/8/2025, 2:16:44 AM | 111 20 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

aw fuck

29/8/2025, 2:16:16 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

This is very interesting. So it's indexing AI slop in case, rather than generating AI slop on its own?

28/8/2025, 10:55:03 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Meanwhile this is like ChatGPT 2-level laughable. Not only does it ignore players like Solano (37) and Suarez (34), the ordering of a 2000 birth as older than a 1997 birth is wild.

The oldest player on the current 2025 Seattle Mariners roster is starting pitcher Luis Castillo, who was born on December 12, 1992, making him 32 years old. He is followed by pitcher Bryan Woo, born in January 2000, and then by pitcher Logan Gilbert, born in May 1997.
28/8/2025, 10:49:51 PM | 65 5 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

Google is so balls. Not only does it make up random shit in response to the questions I ask it; it makes up random shit in response to the questions it suggests that I ask. Neither Lance nor Chipper (thank god) ever played for the Mariners. Also: note that this isn't labeled as AI-generated.

People also ask : Do the Mariners have a chance at the playoffs? What has the most home runs in Mariners history? Releigh is now third on the all-time list, having soarded past Lance Berkman and Chipper Jones, who has 45 in their best seasons. He's projected to surpass that 54 mark, so this could be the next record to fall. Then there's the Mariners team record: Ken Griffey Jr. had back-to-back 56-home seasons in 1997 and 1998.
28/8/2025, 10:43:03 PM | 184 14 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

I'm honored to be rejoining the External Faculty at the Santa Fe Institute after a decade's hiatus. @sfiscience.bsky.social

28/8/2025, 9:46:33 PM | 173 5 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reposted

Almost 20 years ago I talked at Google about how privacy should be akin to a second amendment issue. Tl;dr given the scale of force available to the government, all the guns in the world are useless against an all-knowing tyrant and thus privacy is necessary for the security of a free state. Anyway:

28/8/2025, 8:06:35 AM | 313 103 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Constantine (@ajaxsinger.bsky.social) reposted

ICE took 2 firefighters OFF THE FUCKING FIRE LINE!?

28/8/2025, 2:32:42 AM | 6665 2888 | View on Bluesky | view

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h/t @nailbomb3.bsky.social

28/8/2025, 8:06:51 AM | 13 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

Almost 20 years ago I talked at Google about how privacy should be akin to a second amendment issue. Tl;dr given the scale of force available to the government, all the guns in the world are useless against an all-knowing tyrant and thus privacy is necessary for the security of a free state. Anyway:

28/8/2025, 8:06:35 AM | 313 103 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Dr. Tom Frieden (@drtomfrieden.bsky.social) reposted

Covid vaccines have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. This change to the vaccine label, which has been driven by falsehoods, may put vaccines out of reach of many Americans who want to protect themselves and their loved ones from illness. People deserve facts, not fear and confusion.

27/8/2025, 6:08:49 PM | 324 142 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

No, it's not any of that. It's the guns.

27/8/2025, 6:24:48 PM | 674 104 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I'm so baffled about this.

27/8/2025, 6:37:55 AM | 11 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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You’re not dropping a single, asshole. If you’re actually knew anything, it would be criminal not to reveal it now. But of course, this is a bullshit publicity stunt.

THE HILL HEALTH CARE RFK Jr. says agency will reveal causes of autism in September BY JOSEPH CHOI - 08/26/25 4:01 PM ET
27/8/2025, 2:41:32 AM | 7063 1278 | View on Bluesky | view

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Jfc

26/8/2025, 11:49:42 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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These are absolutely fantastic. What a wonderful activity.

26/8/2025, 10:22:56 PM | 15 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

TW: suicide . . . . . . In one of our new exercises for our online course, we ask students to discuss Sam Altman's description of ChatGPT as a "calculator for words." A calculator will never talk you into killing yourself, tell you how to do it, and convince you not to reach out for help.

26/8/2025, 10:18:44 PM | 147 27 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

TW: suicide . . . . . . . More on this story.

26/8/2025, 10:16:08 PM | 52 8 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

This sounds amazing.

26/8/2025, 6:04:29 PM | 9 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

That struck me as well.

26/8/2025, 3:46:04 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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TW: suicide. . . . . . . “I want to leave my noose in my room so someone finds it and tries to stop me,” Adam wrote at the end of March. “Please don’t leave the noose out,” ChatGPT responded. “Let’s make this space the first place where someone actually sees you. — Gift link.

26/8/2025, 3:35:08 PM | 226 71 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I’ve unlocked this demographic for comparing Trump’s attack on science to similar attacks by Mao and by Stalin. IMO most likely disinformation agents rather than actual people who are truly that goddamn stupid.

25/8/2025, 10:23:59 PM | 11 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Right? I just loved this.

24/8/2025, 10:21:15 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Bak-Coleman (@jbakcoleman.bsky.social) reposted

In one of the most garish examples of NYT journalists losing their mind, @ezrakleinbot.bsky.social weighs both sides of A) argument by leading scientific experts in A B) fan fiction written by folks in the AGI cult. www.nytimes.com/2025/08/24/o...

24/8/2025, 12:51:12 PM | 71 11 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Yeah. That’s more likely, isn’t it?

24/8/2025, 3:58:18 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I really like that description. It’s like watching the maze from above instead of being the rat within the maze.

24/8/2025, 3:27:24 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

It’s only boring if you’ve never been secretly afraid that people far richer and far more attractive than you are having a much better life.

24/8/2025, 3:18:54 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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What makes a puzzle hard? I found this video delightful.

23/8/2025, 10:26:37 PM | 133 30 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Well, in this case, the tool worked great for 20 years first try. Now you want me to ask the same query repeatedly in different ways? And consider it user error or not to?

23/8/2025, 9:07:08 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

I’m going to assume this is very dry humor.

23/8/2025, 8:59:04 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Is Dunkin cereal milk gluten free. — No shit you can’t replicate it exactly. This is one of the reasons that large language models are antithetical to information retrieval. The temperature parameter required means that every output is stochastic.

23/8/2025, 7:19:06 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

This it so important. The stochasticy required by LLMs via the temperature parameter is antithetical to information retrieval.

23/8/2025, 7:17:17 PM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

Yes, you’re right. I actually thought Gemini was an all powerful oracle that never made mistakes until I was suddenly catastrophically disillusioned by the response quoted here.

23/8/2025, 7:15:48 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

😂

23/8/2025, 6:23:02 PM | 47 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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In 25 years, every business school in the country will be doing case studies about how a long defunct company known as “Google” once had an unbeatable lock on online information retrieval and then started doing shit like this.

 Google Sign in is dunkin cereal milk gluten fr Al Overview +1 No, Dunkin' Cereal Milk is not gluten-free because it contains milk, which is a common allergen, and as a result, it is not suitable for those with celiac disease or gluten intolerance. However, coffee drinks, dairy milk, and non-dairy milks like oat, almond, and coconut milk are naturally gluten-free at Dunkin'.
23/8/2025, 6:16:09 PM | 8491 2015 | View on Bluesky | view

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and here I am standing up for fucking john bolton thanks a lot you assholes

23/8/2025, 1:20:38 AM | 401 44 | View on Bluesky | view

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"whether he illegally shared or possessed classified information"

Bolton search: F.B.I. agents on Friday spent hours searching the Maryland home and Washington office of John Bolton, President Trump’s former national security adviser who is now a frequent critic. The inquiry into Mr. Bolton seeks to determine whether he illegally shared or possessed classified information, according to two people familiar with the case who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe it. A lawyer for Mr. Bolton did not respond to a request for comment. Trump's bathroom full of classified info
23/8/2025, 1:18:28 AM | 261 57 | View on Bluesky | view

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Bro. No hate on Uganda at all. I'd LOVE to visit Uganda and have dreamed of doing so some day in order to see shoebills, among other things. But fuck deporting someone for purely political purposes to a country that they have no association with whatsoever.

23/8/2025, 1:12:20 AM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Fuck this.

22/8/2025, 11:28:55 PM | 264 35 | View on Bluesky | view

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It's Friday, and as regular followers know, that means another policy document from the NIH. Honestly this seems pretty pedestrian to me: while I might differ in the weight I'd put on things, almost everything here has been previously announced or signaled. h/t @carlzimmer.com

22/8/2025, 8:50:14 PM | 58 7 | View on Bluesky | view

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22/8/2025, 8:39:59 AM | 103 7 | View on Bluesky | view

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These are not obvious romance scams, though maybe if you start sending DMs or something, that’s where it goes.

22/8/2025, 2:51:02 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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So today, I’ve been followed by multiple accounts with impressive-seeming bio credentials but posting obvious AI-generated responses and using this same profile photograph. Some have picked up quite a few seemingly real followers. Careful out there in the wilds of Bluesky.

Photograph of a woman with dark hair in front of a black and white print of a bridge at night.
22/8/2025, 2:47:56 AM | 302 38 | View on Bluesky | view

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Look, it’s OK. I said shit like this too when I was 13 and had just discovered anarchistic punk. But now you need to have to explain how it applies to the class of students who are able to come to Harvard from China, not a disadvantaged immigrant or some disaffected kid from a flyover state.

21/8/2025, 9:34:06 AM | 8 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I am a former congressional lightweight who doesn’t understand the first thing about soft power. By Mike Gallagher

OPINION COMMENTARY | Follow Send Harvard's Chinese Students Home It makes no sense for the U.S. to be educating the scientific and leadership class of a future adversary. By Mike Gallagher Aug. 19, 2025 at 4:28 pm ET
21/8/2025, 6:37:20 AM | 399 47 | View on Bluesky | view

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I guess the one thing I haven't really adapted to is using a laptop—especially on a plane. Middle distance is too far, reading is too close. Any suggestions?

21/8/2025, 1:09:15 AM | 26 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

People told me they would make me really dizzy and nauseous, and that the field of vision would be narrow at any distance.

21/8/2025, 1:08:28 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Bak-Coleman (@jbakcoleman.bsky.social) reposted

Princeton friends and followers, mark your calendars! citp.princeton.edu/events/2025/...

20/8/2025, 8:43:56 PM | 26 5 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reposted reply parent

6. These are the conversations that we need to be having if we want to be part of a science that continues to further our understanding of the physical world, rather than turning into a high-stakes parlor game wherein humans jockeys ride AIs to fame and (localized, limited) glory.

19/8/2025, 5:14:38 AM | 170 17 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com) reply parent

So like the whole point of the thread is that this paper does show instead of just telling. If you’re expecting some new statistical test, you’re going to be disappointed. But that’s bullshit. More important than a test is a conversation that no one had thought to have.

19/8/2025, 8:08:57 AM | 24 1 | View on Bluesky | view

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Who needs Alan Sokal when you've got Sam Altman?

19/8/2025, 6:50:28 AM | 8 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Congratulations on somehow managing the stupidest reply of the week.

19/8/2025, 6:17:09 AM | 11 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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100%

19/8/2025, 5:24:46 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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10. I could go on and on. But instead, read the paper. And record this as my vote for having more philosophers, and fewer computer scientists, on the Provost's Expert Committee For AI Futures and Institutional Destiny.

19/8/2025, 5:24:26 AM | 232 20 | View on Bluesky | view

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9. As a result, science can swing, pendulum-like, far past its equilibrium point, Researchers gravitate to the convenience technology, it gets rewarded out of proportion, and science stalls despite the fact that most practitioners think they are working in a time of unprecedented productivity.

19/8/2025, 5:21:21 AM | 144 11 | View on Bluesky | view

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8. As I see it, because scientists themselves determine what outputs of science are valued (by what gets published, funded, drives promotion, etc.), when a new technology offers convenience, we are vulnerable to rewarding its use uncritically for many of the reasons brought up in the paper.

19/8/2025, 5:20:38 AM | 127 7 | View on Bluesky | view

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7. The paper looks at how researchers might hand off boring "drudge work" such as data collection and cleaning to AI agents, and what could (and IMO will) go wrong as they do so. Here's a key passage.

Critically, we argue that the very framing of certain AI applications around themes of productivity, efficiency, speed, convenience, and ease can conflict with their thoughtful and rigorous situated consideration — itself a somewhat laborious exercise. Precisely because convenience is the key appeal of some AI tools, researchers who adopt these methods have little incentive to question them and investigate in detail the epistemic implications of adopting them – or privileging them over other approaches. Convenience AI can be dangerous because, motivated by speed and ease, it can instil complacency into the use of given tools and lower the depth and frequency of critical scrutiny
19/8/2025, 5:18:32 AM | 212 46 | View on Bluesky | view

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6. These are the conversations that we need to be having if we want to be part of a science that continues to further our understanding of the physical world, rather than turning into a high-stakes parlor game wherein humans jockeys ride AIs to fame and (localized, limited) glory.

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5. Today I read a paper by @sabinaleonelli.bsky.social and Alexander Mussgnug that I think illustrates this point perfectly. philsci-archive.pitt.edu/24891/1/Phil...

Convenience AI Sabina Leonelli & Alexander Martin Mussgnug12 Abstract: This paper considers the mundane ways in which AI is being incorporated into scientific practice today, and particularly the extent to which AI is used to automate tasks perceived to be boring, “mere routine” and inconvenient to researchers. We label such uses as instances of “Convenience AI” — that is situations where AI is applied with the primary intention to increase speed and minimize human effort. We outline how attributions of convenience to AI applications involve three key characteristics: (i) an emphasis on speed and ease of action, (ii) a comparative element, as well as (iii) a subject-dependent and subjective quality. Using examples from medical science and development economics, we highlight epistemic benefits, complications, and drawbacks of Convenience AI along these three dimensions. While the pursuit of convenience through AI can save precious time and resources as well as give rise to novel forms of inquiry, our analysis underscores how the uncritical adoption of Convenience AI for the sake of shortcutting human labour may also weaken the evidential foundations of science and generate inertia in how research is planned, set-up and conducted, with potentially damaging implications for the knowledge being produced. Critically, we argue that the consistent association of Convenience AI with the goals of productivity, efficiency, and ease, as often promoted also by companies targeting the research market for AI applications, can lower critical scrutiny of research processes and shift focus away from appreciating their broader epistemic and social implications.
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4. Science of Science, with its data-intensive descriptive approach is useful, but insufficient. Metascience, with its laser focus on a replication crisis in psychology, likewise. We need broader humanistic thinking about the social processes involved in the construction and valuation of knowledge.

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3. To get through the AI revolution intact (not to mention other crises such as the GOP's all-out war on science, knowledge, and expertise) we need to be able to view science from outside and reflect on how it is changing and how we might wish to engineer rather than passively accept those changes.

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2. AI is shifting scientists do and what they value far faster than individual scientists—let along scientific institutions—are able to adjust and adapt their value systems. Even when they work well, AI tools disrupt the delicate balance of costs and rewards that structure scientific activity.

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Profile picture Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

1. The philosophy of science sometimes gets an unearned reputation as a purely academic exercise that offers little by way of concrete tools for advancing research. This is wrong. And today, as we grapple with how AI is changing the nature of scientific activity, it's desperately wrong.

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