So losing something that isn't a right will lead to losing rights? I just don't think that is a legitimate argument 🤷
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So losing something that isn't a right will lead to losing rights? I just don't think that is a legitimate argument 🤷
Sports isn't a right. Once you understand that the issue makes more sense.
It would have gotten some great play, too, as Google News actually reported on the important events of the day.
That is really stretching the point, but at least we will always have "stupid" :)
That is GOP-speak for "he stopped to push a hooker out of his car".
I assume that means "I now own your ass" is some jellicle tongue.
I guess the real lesson is that if you think comparing humans to water is sensible, then you don't have much I want to hear.
You think a few hundred years of men training harder than women is why they have larger lungs and heart compared by body mass than women? Or maybe it is aeons of evolutionary forces? pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
We aren't talking about the affects of a couple of thousand years of human civilization. Sexual dimorphism is found across the animal kingdom, including in humans, and is a result of millions of years of evolution. To pretend otherwise is fooling yourself pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...).
Right? Like how did we let fascism win in America because we were mad about the action of a second country against a third. And how has that worked out for Gaza -- better or worse.
That makes no sense. I have no power or right to take away any rights from anyone. And I support all trans people having full rights in society. That said, playing sports isn't a right 🫡 Hope that cleared things up!
That would be the belief of an utter f*ckhead 🤷
I grew up playing sports, but yeah, I don't understand them 🤦
OMG, you are comparing someone with a birth defect to a trans person on a football field? And you lecture me about no knowing about sports 😂
This is easily one of the stupidest arguments i ever heard. Thanks!
Okay, then embrace stupidity and vote against me 🤦
You will see America burn over the right of trans women to compete in cis women's sports? Guess what -- it is already happening because of all the single issue voters who stayed home and pouted last November. So you have that silver lining!
Good thing you are basing your decision on somebody maybe doing something in some hypothetical situation. Solid ground, that.
If you think any of that counted as "scientific evidence" you probably thing an atom is roughly the size and flavor of green pea.
What kind of trans woman? Is there only one, or are there a variety of different pathways and methods for transitioning, some more permanent than others? Aren't you wildly oversimplifying a complex element of the human existence?
Stop ascribing things to me and then arguing against me. The strawman fallacy is weak ass sauce.
Why is it discriminatory for trans people to compete against each in the same way that men compete against men and women against women? The women's world record in the 100m dash has been bested by thousands of men. How can you pretend sexual dimorphism isnt a thing?
A: okay by me on the guns B: what ridiculous non sequitur suggesting anyone thinks women shouldn't have credit card C: why don't we just create a third division in sports for transgender athletes, then they are afforded the right to play without claims of unfairness
I got distracted -- there was another commenter who asked why Harris never reached out to the trans community. I had pointed out that she did a voting PSA on RuPaul's Drag Race, which I knew had featured trans contestants.
Dems haven't stripped anybody of those rights. That was the question, but not just randomly list rights.
So RuPaul's show A: hasn't featured trans participants? B: wouldn't an obvious vehicle for reaching out to the trans community, which was the point being made Also, I believe Ru Paul wasn't actually present during the Harris PSA.
What about sports do I not fundamentally get?
What are "proper sports"? And the fact that thousands of men have run a faster 100 meter time than the women's world record doesn't suggest some competitive inequities based on sexual dimorphism?
That assumes the fascist that we let win the last election allow us to have any more.
So a fifty year old trans man should be able to compete against 5 years old girls in soccer, because it would be "one" thing to say otherwise?
Not one Democrat has pushed for any such legislative ban. You are hallucinating issues into existence.
That was the action of a individuals in a private sporting organization deciding to integrate. It had nothing to do with civil rights because there was no law passed or court case won.
trump disagrees with polls too 🤷
Except it is unpopular even among people that support trans rights 🤷
Playing sports is not a civil right either. See how that works?
What talking over? I engaged you in conversation.
Don't trans people have parents? If they are hatching from eggs or being delivered by storks I have been grossly misinformed.
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I wish Obama has used his majorities to ram through all kinds of legislation enshrining rights, like gay marriage or abortion 🤷
Adults can recognize the difference between one thing and utter annihilation.
I support any trans person over the age of 18 doing whatever they so desire to their bodies. Younger than 18 it is a parental issue. Younger than 13 I think there shouldn't be anything beyond representing as a different sex.
Who is this magical candidate?
We relegated women to their women's leagues, and I never felt that way about them. I don't feel that way about trans people either 🤷 But you know what, let's all die on this hill, with America.
More willful stupidity. You ignore that we segregate people in sports based on size, weight, sex, age, and level of experience, but never religion. It is why we don't let a 10 year old girl show up at the World Cup and play for the national soccer team, but only because she is wearing a hijab.
We also limit adults from speeding, exposing their genitalia in public, dumping garbage into lakes, or having bonfires in their neighbor's yard. Stop being stupid. We restrict adults every day, all day, in many, many, many ways.
Only dumb people conflate Jim Crow era laws that targeted people because of skin color with trans people not being allowed to play in sports. Apples and oranges.
Nope! But I know that picking battles is important if you want to win the war. Look to Pyrrhus of Epirus for a great example.
You could make a pretty strong argument we already did.
So far I have had zero rights listed over the last few days of this extended Newsom freakout.
Right, and when it wasn't popular POLITICIANS AND VOTERS DIDN'T PUSH IT A PURITY TEST. Changing hearts and minds takes time. I wish we could snap our fingers and suddenly live in a perfect world devoid of hate, bigotry, and genocide, but we don't, and we can't lose the war over one battle.
It isn't discrimination because sports aren't a right. Trans people are free to form as many sporting leagues as they care to and compete their hearts out. I'll come out and drink a few beers during the softball, baseball, basketball, or football game!
That combined with the 8 million people who voted for Biden in '20 but stayed home in '24 is what doomed us
Also, imagining that many, most, or all Dems agree with Riley Gaines is just stupid. Trans people can have all the story times, parades, bars, businesses, or sports leagues that they want. I can limit an adult from doing one thing without advocating for their total erasure from society.
Sorry, but I am not willing to sacrifice America so a few hundred trans people can play f*cking sports. And you know what -- NO ONE in life gets every damn thing they want.
I just wanted to be like you
So you're not aware of how the electoral college works? Are any of your arguments based on not being willfully stupid?
Gay marriage was very popular. I was hoping no one would be foolish enough to compare trans athletes in sports to desegregation, but someone always has to be the stupid one
Who is "they"?
I don't think any of that. I also think that voting for a 3rd party is dumb when it doesn't directly fight fascism. But principled stands are definitely.more important than American democracy 👍
Only if you are stupid, I don't think a single reasonable person thinks trans people are trying to sneak into games
Trans people in sports is very much an issue. To conflate it with others is the height of disingenuity.
Playing in sports is not a right
That isn't a lie, that is a poll of Americans 🤷
It is worth asking: did Rudy Giuliani get into a car wreck in an attempt to distract from Trump's ill health?
Those concerns are based on the most contorted and cherry picked reading of a couple of appearances on podcasts while ignoring the plentiful demonstrable things he has done for the trans community. Those concerns often conflate Newsom with trump on trans rights to fully embrace stupidity.
You still haven't been able to name one person. It has just been performative nonsense.
"suggest" is doing a lot of work there. You have to work unimaginably hard to imagine he said any such thing.
You just described what happens when Democrats push trans women in cis women's sports. We get f*cking buried.
The height comparison for basketball is just too stupid to even address. But keep up the bad faith arguments -- you are really good at them!
No it isn't. There is no "right to play in sports", therefore there is no bigotry. And this is a stupid hill to die on, because it is not popular with a giant majority of people 🤷 www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...
Yeah, he recognizes that pushing for trans women in cis women's sports is a loser with the public. It doesn't mean he hates trans people. www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...
What rights has Newsom suggested he would "strip away"? Be specific and fact based or STFU 🤷
That is a a lot of bad faith reasoning.
Deflection is never valid rhetoric 🤷
As I suspected, you can't actually back up your claims with fact. This all just an emotional response to propaganda, and it does nothing but weaken Democrats as a whole.
"making the photo you demand"? I have no idea WTF that even mean 🤷
So I should just accept the accusations without proof? Nah. Especially when they aren't actually true.
See, I was able to easily prove you wrong. He is not completely aligned on trans people, he is completely aligned on trans women people playing in cis women's sports. If you can't parse that extremely important distinction, that is a you problem.
"trans people in sports or I won't vote" isn't the right strategy 🤷 www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...
That just proves people are stupid and will demand winning a battle even if it means losing the war. Pyrrhus of Epirus demonstrated that quite publicly 2300 years ago, but we seem doomed to repeat his mistake.
Just tired of all the bad faith arguments y'all keep using to distract from the actual transphobe in the White House because Gavin Newsom said "yeah". Meanwhile, this is happening in Texas, but nary a peep from y'all. Good game, good game! www.texastribune.org/2025/08/28/t...
He did NOT say he is "completely aligned" with Charlie Kirk. That is MAGA level nonsense.
Oh, well, you said it without any factual basis so it must be true!
A blah blah blah attempt at deflecting from my point isn't valid rhetoric.
And suggesting that Newsom has "sold out" anyone is just hysteric nonsense.
It certainly seems that way.
Y'all keep arguing this without a shred of evidence. What right would be lost by voting for the Democrat's candidate in '28? If you can't clearly specify how the party is advocating for removing rights, then you are essentially the same as any fear mongering MAGA moron.
So that is more important than all the tangible things he has done for the trans community? And he didn't actually say "he agreed with him". He said "yeah". I say that to crazy people spouting nonsense at me all the time, doesn't mean I agree with them.
No, but Texas iust did, and none of these people screaming about Newsom even seemed to have noticed. www.texastribune.org/2025/08/28/t...
So you are mad that he would maybe do something theoretical for an obviously ridiculous reason? Are you actually five and "married" to your dollie?
Yep, I am a bot! Now that you figured it out I have to grant you one bot wish, which can be anything as long as it is the same wish as the Scarecrow's.
Like all the resist liberals that stayed home during the last election to make a principled stand?
I concede nothing. I am asking for specific action plans to fight fascism and who is going to lead that fight. Y'all are responding with "I don't know but I will tacitly support fascism if I don't completely agree with them on every single tiny issue". Your plan is to just hope it all works out.
So you will make accusations about him hurting trans people without letting something as inconvenient as proof get in the way? How are you any different than a MAGA truth denier?
I'm angry because I proved that Harris paid attention to black trans people? I think you might be projecting, sweetie.
You think trump is the only fascist in the GOP? Hell, he might not even be the worst. If you are talking about the Dem primary, who do you want to see as the nomination?
If you didn't happily support her oner trump, then you are a garbage person 🤷
You literally accused the Democrats of not considering black trans people, and I specifically showed you that you are wrong, and now you want to move the goalposts. Weakest of sauce.
Trans people understand fascism so well they would rather not vote than vote against the proudly fascist? How did that principled stand work out in the last election? Also, what haranguing?
