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Joe Stieb

@joestieb.bsky.social

Asst Prof. of US History at UNC Chapel Hill. Basketball, running, cats. Go celtics go heels.

created October 10, 2023

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Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

We all know jd is awful, ok

1/9/2025, 11:24:56 PM | 15 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

When IT happens, all you ‘oh but it sucks that Vance is president now’ people, y’all will have to shut up for a few days. Just let the good vibes play out, ok?

1/9/2025, 11:24:33 PM | 28 3 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Lmao

1/9/2025, 11:13:12 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Don’t stop there, still germs on u man

1/9/2025, 11:13:00 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Jim Snowden (@snowdenwriter.bsky.social) reposted

Ah, yes. I remember when Michelle Obama ravaged the NIH and CDC, killed off vital vaccine research and denied inoculations to millions for reasons of pure BS. I remember this because I have Pundit Memory™️, an exciting new product that makes you able to both-sides and whatabout anything!

1/9/2025, 6:10:20 PM | 383 74 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture David Menschel (@davidmenschel.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

Here is property crime last year. At a 64 year low.

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1/9/2025, 8:04:13 PM | 112 18 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture David Menschel (@davidmenschel.bsky.social) reposted

Crime is literally lower than it has been in the entire life of every single non-senior-citizen American. If you are under age 65 you have never lived at a time with lower property crime rates, lower violent crime rates or lower homicide rates. Never.

1/9/2025, 7:58:41 PM | 2184 707 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Djinn & Tonic 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇲🇽 🇬🇱 (@djinnandtonic.bsky.social) reposted

Donald Trump has been sent to a farm upstate where he gets to run around with all the other fascist pederasts

1/9/2025, 10:56:14 PM | 48 7 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture James Fallows (@jfallows.bsky.social) reposted

Remember when people used the term "false equivalency"?

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1/9/2025, 6:30:03 PM | 1353 159 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

play it safe and make it 40

1/9/2025, 11:08:23 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

Many people are going to look silly when Biden lives to be 90 and Trump dies in 3 weeks.

1/9/2025, 10:29:10 PM | 24 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

sorry man. been there it's so crushing but you did the right thing, being there for your buddy til the end.

1/9/2025, 10:26:34 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Dr. Frog (@phdfrog.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

Some examples of the latter: Both Nixon and Ford endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment. Nixon created the EPA/OSHA and proposed the Endangered Species Act and (repeatedly) healthcare reform. Ford was pro-choice and supported federal funding for special education and to resettle Vietnamese refugees.

1/9/2025, 10:17:24 PM | 4 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Erik Loomis (@erikloomis.bsky.social) reposted

The moment the Cubs won the World Series, it was predestined that Trump would win the presidency.

1/9/2025, 9:42:19 PM | 51 5 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Dr. Frog (@phdfrog.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

I'm old enough to remember when there were actual liberal Republicans. George Romney and Bill Milliken in Michigan. Nelson Rockefeller. Bill Weld. Even Nixon and Ford pursued policies as President that we'd clearly label as liberal/progressive nowadays!

1/9/2025, 10:04:46 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Capitalism has been infinitely better for workers than communism.

1/9/2025, 9:36:47 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Walter Olson (@walterolson.bsky.social) reposted

The people who de-invented the weekend [via @chrisfreiman.bsky.social]

1/9/2025, 9:34:05 PM | 22 5 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Spy chief (@spychief.bsky.social) reposted

My immediate response: “Oh, give me a fucking break!!” This is a headline torn straight from The Onion. www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...

1/9/2025, 9:29:32 PM | 9 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

It’s not selfish at all to feel that way.

1/9/2025, 9:19:20 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture William B. Fuckley (@opinionhaver.bsky.social) reposted

yeah “giving a shit about real problems that are actually occurring” being made into a political liability is just an extraordinarily grim development. you’re incentivized to avoid trying to actually address real things because there’s no upside at all politically.

1/9/2025, 9:03:26 PM | 438 75 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Who the hell was the OP on this one?

1/9/2025, 9:04:39 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Norm Charlatan (@normcharlatan.bsky.social) reposted

This means that they’ll be buried together.

1/9/2025, 8:52:50 PM | 86 5 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture George Conway 👊🇺🇸🔥 (@gtconway.bsky.social) reposted

Fifty-one of the 85 Federalist papers were written by a guy born in Nevis.

1/9/2025, 2:39:25 AM | 15058 3184 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

He was instrumental in civil rights reforms in Michigan and fought vehemently against the goldwater takeover of his party. But no, he doesn’t meet the standards of the high priests of anti racism, circa 2025

1/9/2025, 8:52:48 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

That’s a ridiculous comparison

1/9/2025, 8:51:05 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Well he did a hell of a lot more than me or you

1/9/2025, 8:50:48 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Zoomer Antimillenarian ♨️ (@surcomplicated.bsky.social) reposted

Setting up a gigantic quantum reverse causation apparatus for eleventy trillion dollars so I can read the articles five seconds before they post and have the very best slurs, insults, and death threats chosen in advance.

1/9/2025, 8:00:24 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Sure

1/9/2025, 8:49:45 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Dems also played congressional hardball re: bork; although legislative chicanery became much more the GOP’s speciality (excessive filibusters, for example). And I agree that that gen basically died out and that as an institution the GOP caved Great book on that:

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1/9/2025, 8:48:24 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Oh i dig him

1/9/2025, 8:46:24 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

I agree

1/9/2025, 8:46:13 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

In that case there’s nothing i can say. Read up on george romney and tell me what u think.

1/9/2025, 7:53:39 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

DUH

1/9/2025, 7:53:07 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Check out kabaservice’s book.

1/9/2025, 7:52:59 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

And yet he was Sorry, people are complicated www.michigan.gov/mdcr/news/re...

1/9/2025, 7:52:41 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

My article? A little. There would be better resources for that, incl david’s book

1/9/2025, 7:48:53 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

We can’t have a discussion if u are going to straw man me, so bye

1/9/2025, 7:47:55 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

U didn’t read the article Romney et al played to rhe underbelly, which was never the entire gop base Trump IS the underbelly

1/9/2025, 7:47:05 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Contingency also exists.

1/9/2025, 7:34:01 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

bsky.app/profile/john... Thx for helping me find people to unfollow, Tom. People who believe the law should be applied to people they dislike but not to those they like.

1/9/2025, 7:24:07 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

And trumpism was never inevitable

1/9/2025, 7:21:32 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Jonathan Corbin (@jonathancorbin.bsky.social) reposted

Good article! Political parties should beware getting in bed with fascists for the sake of political expediency. The fascists will eventually destroy them from the inside out.

1/9/2025, 7:19:51 PM | 3 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

And romney never did, so there u go. His Dad was a huge civil rights champion, and instilled that in him.

1/9/2025, 7:17:36 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Dutch Panderin (@dutchpanderin.bsky.social) reposted

Michelle Obama: kids should have healthier school lunches RFK Jr: maybe if we let the plague run wild we can build a master race Media: wow these are the same thing

1/9/2025, 5:24:08 PM | 2257 687 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

That’s patently unfair, and i think u are projecting into his mind Let’s leave this here. We aren’t going to change each other’s minds.

1/9/2025, 7:09:19 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Should every catholic have left the church bc of the child abuse scandal? Sorry, this isn’t a standard most people apply even to themselves. It makes him quite normal.

1/9/2025, 7:08:32 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Well that’s reasonable and i appreciate u reading

1/9/2025, 7:07:32 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

❤️sorry for my snark

1/9/2025, 7:06:48 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

That’s a pretty unrealistic standard for people, esp in matters of religion, and if everyone follows that path the hardliners get to determine everything. I’m not leaving the dem party over gaza. Maybe i should. It’s a moral stain. But i’m not.

1/9/2025, 7:06:26 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture NY Times Pitchbot (@nytpitchbot.bsky.social) reposted

Someone please kill me right now.

RFK Jr. Is Repeating Michelle Obama’s Mistakes MAHA is “Let’s Move!” 2.0. By Tom Bartlett
1/9/2025, 5:20:23 PM | 5969 938 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

I mean sure hut he had nothing to do w this policy and did not internalize it

1/9/2025, 7:04:02 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Did he really have any power in that? Lots of people tolerate institutional racism to a degree. And this book deals well with romney’s views on race and longstanding dissatisfaction w the church’s stance.

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1/9/2025, 7:02:56 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Ur point? Here’s Romney at a BLM protest.

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1/9/2025, 6:58:51 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Emcee Hammerpants (@emceehammerpants.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

I don’t care for his policy positions, but I have no illusions that he’s a reasonable human being. I just disagree with him. That’s true of both the men Obama beat. He didn’t turn into a psycho monster after that defeat either.

1/9/2025, 6:55:35 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Owned

1/9/2025, 6:54:33 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

This would be a really good answer. Norms matter, as did the GOP’s traditional status as a party of the educated middle class. But the internet, social media, and other forces made this kind of gatekeeping/policing harder.

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1/9/2025, 6:54:21 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

More reading comprehension struggles

1/9/2025, 6:52:48 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

This is literally what u are describing Of course romney played to the base, like every politician. He was not of the base, however, and he had boundaries. He was also pretty moderate on policy: he was the gov of MA after all and passed romneycare

1/9/2025, 6:52:28 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Outstanding one tho

1/9/2025, 6:51:14 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Just saying that’s literally the thesis of the article and my main disagreement w David’s narrative

1/9/2025, 6:50:25 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Which is acknowledged in the article

1/9/2025, 6:49:49 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

🤣

1/9/2025, 6:49:13 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Correct

1/9/2025, 6:49:01 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

More ppl should read this

1/9/2025, 6:48:44 PM | 8 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

HW doing the Willie Horton and Trump’s unending and open appeals to racism are orders of magnitude in difference

1/9/2025, 6:48:14 PM | 9 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Depends on when u are talking about

1/9/2025, 6:47:03 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Nixon himself was pretty centrist, and many of Reagan and W’s domestic policies were not radically right wing

1/9/2025, 6:45:21 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

Another person who didn’t read the article, where I quite clearly recognize that GOP moderates tried to harness and control the crazy and ultimately failed.

1/9/2025, 6:44:28 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Frank Bowman (@frank-bowman.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

Puzzled abt "born-again Christian" thing. Romney is lifelong Mormon. Also, he was only Republican Senator to vote to convict Trump in 1st impeachment trial. First Senator to vote agnst president of own party in US history. He's conservative, business friendly Repub. You bet. but man has a spine.

1/9/2025, 6:30:53 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Very fair points

1/9/2025, 6:42:49 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Bingo

1/9/2025, 6:42:35 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture fsquared (@fsquared.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

Those who do not acknowledge - beyond the power of his words (especially during the 1st impeachment) - that Romney was the first Senator in U.S. history to convict a Pres. of his own party is falling short. And enough of "he was going to retire". He made himself a pariah and literally a marked man.

1/9/2025, 6:41:47 PM | 10 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

Acknowledged in the article

1/9/2025, 6:18:26 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

❤️

1/9/2025, 6:17:53 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

I love when people don’t read the articles I post and then are like ‘did u think of this though!!!’

1/9/2025, 6:17:32 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

I’m amazed at how fast people read the articles i post.

1/9/2025, 6:16:48 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

Romney, Mccain, HW: these were not racists. A party can be more than one thing.

1/9/2025, 6:16:17 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Wow u read my article fast

1/9/2025, 6:15:28 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

I wrote that in the article.

1/9/2025, 6:15:09 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Well that was a decent chunk of time, and way back it was the party of pro black radicalism and reform Things change.

1/9/2025, 6:14:47 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Confess and u you shall be purified!

1/9/2025, 6:13:50 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

And do I love Mccain and romney? Not especially! Didn’t vote for either of em, but i respected them, and they played within the boundaries of normal democratic politics and, well, reality. I will say i respect the hell out of mitt for his impeachment votes.

1/9/2025, 6:13:08 PM | 15 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Anti-trump team ain’t gonna happen and doesn’t have to happen.

1/9/2025, 6:10:28 PM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

It’s not realistic or necessary to try to get every single anti-Trump republican to take the somewhat dramatic Stuart stevens line that ‘it was all a lie.’ And saying to principled anti-trump former republicans like @radiofreetom.bsky.social that they must de facto become liberals to be in the/

1/9/2025, 6:09:49 PM | 11 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

The GOP was not always crazy. People act like the party of Romney, HW Bush, Lugar, McCain, and so on never existed or were no better than the extremists. It’s bad history and bad politics. Here’s my response to it: www.theunpopulist.net/p/responsibl...

1/9/2025, 6:07:33 PM | 117 13 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

followed the mob consensus

1/9/2025, 5:36:05 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

too late just bought an Ego

1/9/2025, 5:35:56 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Sharon (@sharonk.bsky.social) reposted

area man incapable of separating the Roma vs the Romanians

Curtis Yarvin being incapable of understanding that the Roma are not Romanians
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Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

He is also racist, but he is ALSO very stupid.

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Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)

The thing about Curtis Yarvin is that he is stupid. Very, very stupid. Here he is mixing up "Roma" and "Romanians." He is very stupid.

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Profile picture David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf.bsky.social) reposted

We do not fully grasp how damaging the SCOTUS’ presidential immunity decision was. What we know is it was a disaster and the huge damage it has caused is being compounded daily. That is because the result is a collaboration between corrupt justices, a supine Congress and a demented President.

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Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Who was it lol

1/9/2025, 4:16:16 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Anyone who praises Trump’s character has none

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Profile picture Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) reposted

I didn’t really need more evidence that RFK Jr is nuts and delusional.

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Profile picture Micah (@rincewind.run) reposted

really cannot overstate how much this man looks like shit manifesting…

1/9/2025, 3:56:27 PM | 381 28 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Ouch sheesh

1/9/2025, 3:52:35 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

Brilliant

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Profile picture Vlad Oligarchsky (@opulenceihazit.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

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Profile picture Nicholas Grossman (@nicholasgrossman.bsky.social) reposted

China didn’t take it. America gave it away.

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Profile picture Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent

God has no one heard of deterrence

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