Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
We all know jd is awful, ok
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We all know jd is awful, ok
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
When IT happens, all you ‘oh but it sucks that Vance is president now’ people, y’all will have to shut up for a few days. Just let the good vibes play out, ok?
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Lmao
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Don’t stop there, still germs on u man
Jim Snowden (@snowdenwriter.bsky.social) reposted
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David Menschel (@davidmenschel.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
Here is property crime last year. At a 64 year low.
David Menschel (@davidmenschel.bsky.social) reposted
Crime is literally lower than it has been in the entire life of every single non-senior-citizen American. If you are under age 65 you have never lived at a time with lower property crime rates, lower violent crime rates or lower homicide rates. Never.
Djinn & Tonic 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇲🇽 🇬🇱 (@djinnandtonic.bsky.social) reposted
Donald Trump has been sent to a farm upstate where he gets to run around with all the other fascist pederasts
James Fallows (@jfallows.bsky.social) reposted
Remember when people used the term "false equivalency"?
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
play it safe and make it 40
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
Many people are going to look silly when Biden lives to be 90 and Trump dies in 3 weeks.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
sorry man. been there it's so crushing but you did the right thing, being there for your buddy til the end.
Dr. Frog (@phdfrog.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
Some examples of the latter: Both Nixon and Ford endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment. Nixon created the EPA/OSHA and proposed the Endangered Species Act and (repeatedly) healthcare reform. Ford was pro-choice and supported federal funding for special education and to resettle Vietnamese refugees.
Erik Loomis (@erikloomis.bsky.social) reposted
The moment the Cubs won the World Series, it was predestined that Trump would win the presidency.
Dr. Frog (@phdfrog.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
I'm old enough to remember when there were actual liberal Republicans. George Romney and Bill Milliken in Michigan. Nelson Rockefeller. Bill Weld. Even Nixon and Ford pursued policies as President that we'd clearly label as liberal/progressive nowadays!
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Capitalism has been infinitely better for workers than communism.
Walter Olson (@walterolson.bsky.social) reposted
The people who de-invented the weekend [via @chrisfreiman.bsky.social]
Spy chief (@spychief.bsky.social) reposted
My immediate response: “Oh, give me a fucking break!!” This is a headline torn straight from The Onion. www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
It’s not selfish at all to feel that way.
William B. Fuckley (@opinionhaver.bsky.social) reposted
yeah “giving a shit about real problems that are actually occurring” being made into a political liability is just an extraordinarily grim development. you’re incentivized to avoid trying to actually address real things because there’s no upside at all politically.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Who the hell was the OP on this one?
Norm Charlatan (@normcharlatan.bsky.social) reposted
This means that they’ll be buried together.
George Conway 👊🇺🇸🔥 (@gtconway.bsky.social) reposted
Fifty-one of the 85 Federalist papers were written by a guy born in Nevis.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
He was instrumental in civil rights reforms in Michigan and fought vehemently against the goldwater takeover of his party. But no, he doesn’t meet the standards of the high priests of anti racism, circa 2025
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
That’s a ridiculous comparison
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Well he did a hell of a lot more than me or you
Zoomer Antimillenarian ♨️ (@surcomplicated.bsky.social) reposted
Setting up a gigantic quantum reverse causation apparatus for eleventy trillion dollars so I can read the articles five seconds before they post and have the very best slurs, insults, and death threats chosen in advance.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Sure
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Dems also played congressional hardball re: bork; although legislative chicanery became much more the GOP’s speciality (excessive filibusters, for example). And I agree that that gen basically died out and that as an institution the GOP caved Great book on that:
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh i dig him
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
I agree
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
In that case there’s nothing i can say. Read up on george romney and tell me what u think.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
DUH
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Check out kabaservice’s book.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
And yet he was Sorry, people are complicated www.michigan.gov/mdcr/news/re...
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
My article? A little. There would be better resources for that, incl david’s book
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
We can’t have a discussion if u are going to straw man me, so bye
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
U didn’t read the article Romney et al played to rhe underbelly, which was never the entire gop base Trump IS the underbelly
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Contingency also exists.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
bsky.app/profile/john... Thx for helping me find people to unfollow, Tom. People who believe the law should be applied to people they dislike but not to those they like.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
And trumpism was never inevitable
Jonathan Corbin (@jonathancorbin.bsky.social) reposted
Good article! Political parties should beware getting in bed with fascists for the sake of political expediency. The fascists will eventually destroy them from the inside out.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
And romney never did, so there u go. His Dad was a huge civil rights champion, and instilled that in him.
Dutch Panderin (@dutchpanderin.bsky.social) reposted
Michelle Obama: kids should have healthier school lunches RFK Jr: maybe if we let the plague run wild we can build a master race Media: wow these are the same thing
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
That’s patently unfair, and i think u are projecting into his mind Let’s leave this here. We aren’t going to change each other’s minds.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Should every catholic have left the church bc of the child abuse scandal? Sorry, this isn’t a standard most people apply even to themselves. It makes him quite normal.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Well that’s reasonable and i appreciate u reading
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
❤️sorry for my snark
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
That’s a pretty unrealistic standard for people, esp in matters of religion, and if everyone follows that path the hardliners get to determine everything. I’m not leaving the dem party over gaza. Maybe i should. It’s a moral stain. But i’m not.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
I mean sure hut he had nothing to do w this policy and did not internalize it
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Did he really have any power in that? Lots of people tolerate institutional racism to a degree. And this book deals well with romney’s views on race and longstanding dissatisfaction w the church’s stance.
Emcee Hammerpants (@emceehammerpants.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
I don’t care for his policy positions, but I have no illusions that he’s a reasonable human being. I just disagree with him. That’s true of both the men Obama beat. He didn’t turn into a psycho monster after that defeat either.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Owned
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
This would be a really good answer. Norms matter, as did the GOP’s traditional status as a party of the educated middle class. But the internet, social media, and other forces made this kind of gatekeeping/policing harder.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
More reading comprehension struggles
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
This is literally what u are describing Of course romney played to the base, like every politician. He was not of the base, however, and he had boundaries. He was also pretty moderate on policy: he was the gov of MA after all and passed romneycare
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Outstanding one tho
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Just saying that’s literally the thesis of the article and my main disagreement w David’s narrative
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Which is acknowledged in the article
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
🤣
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Correct
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
More ppl should read this
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
HW doing the Willie Horton and Trump’s unending and open appeals to racism are orders of magnitude in difference
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Depends on when u are talking about
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Nixon himself was pretty centrist, and many of Reagan and W’s domestic policies were not radically right wing
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
Another person who didn’t read the article, where I quite clearly recognize that GOP moderates tried to harness and control the crazy and ultimately failed.
Frank Bowman (@frank-bowman.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
Puzzled abt "born-again Christian" thing. Romney is lifelong Mormon. Also, he was only Republican Senator to vote to convict Trump in 1st impeachment trial. First Senator to vote agnst president of own party in US history. He's conservative, business friendly Repub. You bet. but man has a spine.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Very fair points
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Bingo
fsquared (@fsquared.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
Those who do not acknowledge - beyond the power of his words (especially during the 1st impeachment) - that Romney was the first Senator in U.S. history to convict a Pres. of his own party is falling short. And enough of "he was going to retire". He made himself a pariah and literally a marked man.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
Acknowledged in the article
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
❤️
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
I love when people don’t read the articles I post and then are like ‘did u think of this though!!!’
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
I’m amazed at how fast people read the articles i post.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
Romney, Mccain, HW: these were not racists. A party can be more than one thing.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Wow u read my article fast
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
I wrote that in the article.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Well that was a decent chunk of time, and way back it was the party of pro black radicalism and reform Things change.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Confess and u you shall be purified!
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
And do I love Mccain and romney? Not especially! Didn’t vote for either of em, but i respected them, and they played within the boundaries of normal democratic politics and, well, reality. I will say i respect the hell out of mitt for his impeachment votes.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Anti-trump team ain’t gonna happen and doesn’t have to happen.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
It’s not realistic or necessary to try to get every single anti-Trump republican to take the somewhat dramatic Stuart stevens line that ‘it was all a lie.’ And saying to principled anti-trump former republicans like @radiofreetom.bsky.social that they must de facto become liberals to be in the/
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
The GOP was not always crazy. People act like the party of Romney, HW Bush, Lugar, McCain, and so on never existed or were no better than the extremists. It’s bad history and bad politics. Here’s my response to it: www.theunpopulist.net/p/responsibl...
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
followed the mob consensus
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
too late just bought an Ego
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
He is also racist, but he is ALSO very stupid.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social)
The thing about Curtis Yarvin is that he is stupid. Very, very stupid. Here he is mixing up "Roma" and "Romanians." He is very stupid.
David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf.bsky.social) reposted
We do not fully grasp how damaging the SCOTUS’ presidential immunity decision was. What we know is it was a disaster and the huge damage it has caused is being compounded daily. That is because the result is a collaboration between corrupt justices, a supine Congress and a demented President.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Who was it lol
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Anyone who praises Trump’s character has none
Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) reposted
I didn’t really need more evidence that RFK Jr is nuts and delusional.
Micah (@rincewind.run) reposted
really cannot overstate how much this man looks like shit manifesting…
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Ouch sheesh
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
Brilliant
Vlad Oligarchsky (@opulenceihazit.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
Nicholas Grossman (@nicholasgrossman.bsky.social) reposted
China didn’t take it. America gave it away.
Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) reply parent
God has no one heard of deterrence