Bonus video now on Nebula: debunking “they weren’t using the land” - a lie colonisers used to justify land left in the early US, which philosopher John Locke contributed to nebula.tv/videos/philo...
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Indigenous people are currently protesting in Québec, blocking roads to protect their land and facing a strong racist backlash for doing so. History is never over, and we will never know everything and understand everything. This is why we must keep learning. Great video as usual.
aug 31, 2025, 12:35 pm • 2 0 • view
I'm currently reading a book by Fiore Longo about how we must decolonize the way we protect nature, and it debunks many myths and fantasies that guide our policies about environment and hurt imdigenous people all around the world. I hope is is/gets translated because this is a must read IMO.
aug 31, 2025, 12:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Stop using “Indian” to describe indigenous people you absolute walnut
aug 31, 2025, 4:52 pm • 38 0 • view
Isn't it funny how the worst people always think that just because *they're* not the ones ones using it right now, it's "unused"? bsky.app/profile/jswe...
aug 31, 2025, 10:09 pm • 1 0 • view
how are you STILL using this columbus era slur. do you have the concept of shame over there
aug 31, 2025, 9:29 pm • 9 0 • view
They weren’t using it? Bro this ain’t a picnic table at the local park, it’s their land and if they wanted to just look out to the horizon and leave it be that’s their bloody choice ffs
aug 31, 2025, 4:57 pm • 4 0 • view
I dunno if it really needs to be debunked, only really racist people believe that the stealing of the indigenous land was justified.
aug 31, 2025, 9:51 am • 9 0 • view
It is more complicated than that. You don't need to be racist not to know the way indigenous people see and use the land. Myths most of us believe about environmental protections (even in progressive circles) are still very disrespectful of indigenous cultures and peoples.
aug 31, 2025, 12:07 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes and no - kids need access to information for deprogramming as well. You can choose not to be a racist asshole, but once you make that choice you need the information to figure out what things you were taught by other racist assholes growing up was a lie and what wasnt.
aug 31, 2025, 10:27 am • 24 0 • view
True, but I could easily see someone falling for the idea that first nations "weren't doing anything with it" just because their use of the land didn't look like giant cities and roads and etc the way we would recognise them today.
aug 31, 2025, 9:55 am • 5 0 • view
I have a friend who was deep into Objectivism and bought into Ayn Rand's b.s. that it was right and just to take the native's land specifically because of that.
aug 31, 2025, 11:54 am • 1 0 • view
seriously
aug 31, 2025, 11:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Locke was a slaver more than philosopher. Wrote a constitution, for a colony he never step foot in, to protect institutional kidnapping/slavery,which were against his concept of liberty, justifying it by using Christianity,which he really didn’t believe in,and became the West’s most beloved thinker.
sep 1, 2025, 11:49 am • 0 0 • view
It's kind of nice to see a British person have a nuanced take about Native Americans.
aug 31, 2025, 5:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Are we really still calling native Americans "indians" in 2025 🤦🏾♀️
aug 31, 2025, 7:44 pm • 52 1 • view
I know right? The only people I’ve met still using the word around me are racists, old white people, and older white Mexicans (who say the direct translated word)
aug 31, 2025, 9:24 pm • 2 0 • view
So, this is what's odd to me. I watched the original video from YouTube, and she clearly did a lot of research, and even addressed the term specifically, and came to the conclusion that this was the term to use predominantly. I have no idea how something like that happens. (1/2)
sep 1, 2025, 1:25 pm • 1 0 • view
At best, the term is contentious, and while she does mention that it's generally best to refer to people by their specific group's name (I have been told that "tribe" is also not a preferred term as well) which she does where applicable, the choice to primarily use "Indian" is bizarre to me
sep 1, 2025, 1:25 pm • 1 0 • view
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sep 1, 2025, 3:56 pm • 5 0 • view
The problem is that there are a lot of people speaking for multiple different groups of people as if they are all of one mind. "Indian" is contentious because some people prefer it, some people consider it inaccurate to who they are, and plenty of opinions in between. (1/2)
sep 1, 2025, 5:24 pm • 0 0 • view
There isn't one singular opinion to rule them all over this issue, as some people even dislike the term "Native American." The best thing to do is to try to learn different indigenous groups' names and refer to those. "Indigenous people" also seems to be widely embraced.
sep 1, 2025, 5:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh my bad, I thought you were using that as an argument *FOR* using the term. Pardon the tone. 🙏
sep 1, 2025, 5:28 pm • 0 0 • view
One last thing. Some of that wording is iffy on my end. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of indigenous people do NOT like the term, and that's essentially why I think it's best to avoid it (except when talking about Asian Indians from India ofc) Kbye ✌️
sep 1, 2025, 6:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Youd think someone who likely had to deal with people using incorrect terms to refer to them would know better than this
aug 31, 2025, 7:47 pm • 39 0 • view
She talks about this in the video
aug 31, 2025, 9:56 pm • 0 0 • view
And yet she still uses it
sep 1, 2025, 5:57 pm • 3 0 • view
Colonisers determined the continent of Australia to be 'terra nullius' and Indigenous Australians are STILL fighting for treaty: www.togetherfortreaty.org.au
aug 31, 2025, 9:55 pm • 4 0 • view
Oh goddamn, and also having to still deal with this kind of shit: bsky.app/profile/6new...
sep 1, 2025, 1:14 am • 2 0 • view
So when are you going to apologize for using a slur over and over again in the video?
sep 1, 2025, 12:13 am • 13 0 • view
Also, missed opportunity to handing the mic over to an Indigenous person for the video.
sep 1, 2025, 12:16 am • 9 0 • view
*stolen/indigenous land (the racist slur wasn't necessary at all, you sgould have checked that before uploading it).
sep 1, 2025, 12:04 am • 9 0 • view
Oh, you've been told it before and you refuse to listen to it: ew.
sep 1, 2025, 12:06 am • 9 0 • view
Plus I saw comments on the part 2 of the Jefferson video mentioning that the native americans migrated over a land bridge from Siberia about 11,ooo BCE. My interpretation of those comments is that OP was trying to find a flimsy excuse to justify the stealing of their land by the US government.
sep 1, 2025, 4:09 am • 1 0 • view
Hi, you know that whole "if you're not Indigenous don't say INDIAN" part that Indigenous people have been calling you out on for the past two days? You're still doing it wrong.
aug 31, 2025, 1:40 pm • 100 9 • view
Like you added a "hi guys here's an extra part that didn't make the cut!" But not an apology or a disclaimer about the harm you caused?
aug 31, 2025, 1:45 pm • 68 2 • view
Do you mind giving some background on this because I thought using "Indian" was a valid term
aug 31, 2025, 6:34 pm • 1 0 • view
do you know where India is?
aug 31, 2025, 7:54 pm • 13 0 • view
My understanding is that it's a preference for a minority of people and extremely offensive to others therefore not a good choice out of all the terms she could have picked
sep 1, 2025, 3:48 am • 2 0 • view
Indian is okay for folks from India. But not natives who were mistaken for Indians because dipship "explorer" and genocidal extraordinaire Christopher Columbus.
aug 31, 2025, 9:02 pm • 8 1 • view
My grandpa is Nimiipuu and says Indian is fine who should I listen to?
aug 31, 2025, 9:05 pm • 2 0 • view
Is he, though?
aug 31, 2025, 9:45 pm • 1 0 • view
He’s literally from the Nez Perce reservation idk what else to say. He’s like 80 tho so he’s probably got a different perspective
aug 31, 2025, 9:59 pm • 3 0 • view
your grandpa also isn't making any money off his existence and this lady is presenting information at a professional capacity to make money. John Locke wrote about specific tribes, she could name those people using old pan-Indian terms shows a lack of research or true respect, imho.
aug 31, 2025, 9:34 pm • 18 0 • view
not trying to dunk or argue btw, I am genuinely a Black Native, CRT educator and authenticity researcher. power + influence matters alot in modern context. some people make things *about* us to serve themselves when really media should be made *for us* because we exist in modernity
aug 31, 2025, 9:37 pm • 17 0 • view
as someone with no dog in this fight, can I suggest that maybe Abby should have invited Sthelen's grandpa on the show to talk about it for himself
aug 31, 2025, 11:29 pm • 10 0 • view
I'd love to see that tbh. alot of community elders are weird about being recorded bc whites steal everything
sep 1, 2025, 12:53 pm • 7 0 • view
Rightfully so
sep 1, 2025, 12:58 pm • 3 0 • view
And the ones that DO want to be spoken to, I have noticed, tend to be sidelines and actively censured. Is this real, or is this just my imagination? Because it seems that way to me.
sep 1, 2025, 12:55 pm • 6 0 • view
oh yeah white docs love a few quotes in a rez accent but i dare a single white journalist or documentarian to really let a Native person represent themself
sep 1, 2025, 12:58 pm • 7 0 • view
i double dog dare anyone to make a doc where the Afro Natives aren't literally cut from footage too
sep 1, 2025, 12:59 pm • 9 1 • view
I love how people are doing the meme about how their great grandpa was Indigenous so they can do x and y in your replies. One of my mother's grandparents is South American Indigenous but I don't talk about it because she died when my mother was very small and I have like 0 ties to any tribes.
sep 1, 2025, 1:00 pm • 7 0 • view
Or listened to a single indigenous person
sep 1, 2025, 2:26 pm • 1 0 • view
That would require a colonizer to be okay without dominating the narrative about Indigenous people and we know how much they hate that
aug 31, 2025, 11:30 pm • 5 1 • view
What we call ourselves is our business, for the millionth time.
aug 31, 2025, 9:19 pm • 13 2 • view
What you can say with your grandpa is going to be different from how you should address native americans in general. People have different boundaries and when dealing with larger groups, you shouldnt default to how youd talk to someone who you know personally.
sep 1, 2025, 5:11 am • 10 1 • view
I can't speak for your grandfather, I do, on occasion, call myself Indian (usually derisively), but I think calling myself or other Native folk Indians is different than a white British lady using it. It's sort of like Trans folk using the T slur among each other, but it being bad for cis folks.
aug 31, 2025, 9:43 pm • 17 2 • view
I use NDN not like we can't use the colonizer slave name they gave us. White lady from the colonizer island should check her pussy before flapping it.
aug 31, 2025, 10:40 pm • 3 1 • view
I meant this is in the context of white people saying it. To be fair he grew up with people saying far worse shit and hasn’t lived on the rez since like 1960 so perhaps his perspective is different.
aug 31, 2025, 9:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Man I'm just fucking tired of people using slurs at all. I've done all I can to navigate a life where we all get along and live to better each other. If you're grandfather is using a slur that is identified as a slur by multiple people in the here and now, what do you think is right?
sep 1, 2025, 6:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Well these are strangers online who I don’t know. Strangers online who I don’t know also say that transsexual is a slur but I actually like the word.
sep 1, 2025, 8:22 pm • 0 0 • view
In my experience, older Native folks are fine with it, but younger Native folks aren't. Honestly, if you are with Native folk & you know they are chill with it? Fine... whatever... I could care less. But YT videos for public consumption? Yeah... probably best not, too.
aug 31, 2025, 10:02 pm • 17 4 • view
Though again; my issue is less any specific mistakes or terminology issues & more... she clearly didn't consult any Native people. Which, honestly, for a smaller channel, I would probably leave it be. But she has hire Jonathan Frakes money, she can hire consultants.
aug 31, 2025, 9:46 pm • 18 3 • view
The book 1491 by Charles Mann was a huge eye opener to me about the extent to which colonial propaganda shaped my understanding of American (the country and the continents) history. The Americas were full of farmers when the Europeans showed up! All the early explorers wrote about it!
aug 31, 2025, 4:41 pm • 2 0 • view
It was a John Locke Conspiracy
aug 31, 2025, 10:12 am • 2 0 • view
Stop saying the word please There are dozens of native people telling to you in the comments and replies that it is not OK, listen to them.
aug 31, 2025, 7:49 pm • 32 0 • view
Are we really still out here calling native Americans Indians? Do better you've been corrected on this more than enough times at this point
aug 31, 2025, 6:54 pm • 29 3 • view
Dear Abigail, an OT question: Is there any chance to see you again on a SW TV show after The Acolyte?
aug 31, 2025, 12:46 pm • 0 0 • view
If 'they aren't using the land' is a supposedly valid reason for stealing land - then why don't we do the same thing to Capitalists and Landlords in particular who 'own' land and property they leave unused for years and even decades? Because it was a lie, obviously - and capitalism sucks.
aug 31, 2025, 12:41 pm • 14 3 • view
And then they did it again all over Africa when they decided they wanted to settle in a spot
aug 31, 2025, 11:54 am • 3 0 • view
What happened to not calling a group of people something they don't like being called? Stop using Indian to describe Native American people. They aren't "Indians".
aug 31, 2025, 10:21 pm • 13 0 • view
Not sure how white spread it is, but nowadays its fine again to use that word, because it highlights the stupidity of the white man. Its better than native american, because there native to the land before america. But I have to read up on it, and if theres a opinion pool on it.
sep 1, 2025, 3:33 pm • 0 0 • view
All I know from my experience no white person unless they're in their 50s-80s calls them indians. So I'm just kinda perplexed as to why she did. Like Hun, no one does that, that actually knows American history.
sep 1, 2025, 9:09 pm • 0 0 • view
yeah its probably still pretty shitty.
sep 1, 2025, 9:23 pm • 0 0 • view
You are supporting nazi germany by "bothsiding" the genocide against palestinians btw www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Cj...
aug 31, 2025, 9:41 pm • 10 0 • view
I need a break from this crap! As a Combat Medic this shit doesn't compute as sanity!
aug 31, 2025, 9:32 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 31, 2025, 9:30 pm • 0 0 • view
More to come!
aug 31, 2025, 9:20 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 31, 2025, 9:19 pm • 0 0 • view
YouTube helped Trump win in 2024 and are as greedy as they come! JACK
aug 31, 2025, 6:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 31, 2025, 6:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 31, 2025, 10:47 am • 0 0 • view
As you've likely seen, there's quite a lot of indigenous people saying you should've just said indigenous people or native americans or something, that you should've had an indigenous guest from one of the groups that was ethnically cleansed in the trail of tears or something, etc
aug 31, 2025, 7:48 pm • 22 0 • view
In addition to this I think you should have made the part where you directly talk about Israel longer. The video is under 1 hour long, you very much could've directly laid out the parallels and said that a full video about it should also talk about antisemitism AND islamaphobia, since both matter
aug 31, 2025, 7:50 pm • 14 0 • view
I mean, obviously, you've made videos on both types of bigotry and also on liberalism, but nonetheless, I still think this topic warrants its own direct video, from you with your content creating style, but with a Palestinian guest, and/or an antizionist Jew, etc
aug 31, 2025, 7:52 pm • 9 0 • view
Just like, do the thing that Foreign Man in a Foreign Land did with you, in his recent video. That kind of content creation, where bits of an interview are spread out through the essay, is absolutely brilliant and I think you should start doing it too, and say where you got it from
aug 31, 2025, 7:53 pm • 9 0 • view
I feel the scope of that video is way to small. Obviously everyone was looking forward to a longer gaza section, and you came already under fire for not going deeper into that topic. But theres also just a lot more to talk about. And you sould dig deeper into the excuses and ways they downplayed it
aug 31, 2025, 1:17 pm • 4 0 • view
Just don't... don't speak for us.
aug 31, 2025, 9:39 pm • 7 1 • view
Colonizers justifying land use then...and Israelis "colonizing" Palestanian land invasion year by year. Pushing the boundaries because Netanyahu goverment encouraged it. Then push back by Palestanians results in massacre for Palestanians followed by deliberate genocide. Who started what?
aug 31, 2025, 11:36 am • 4 0 • view