Saying you need an AR-15 to hunt is like saying you need dynamite to fish. Stop the nonsense.
Saying you need an AR-15 to hunt is like saying you need dynamite to fish. Stop the nonsense.
But you all need to fight tyranny! BwwwwwwAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Couldn't do that with a straight face, sorry. Don't shoot me.
I needed an AR-15 to save my life when I was surrounded by murderous hillbillies. And I never had to shoot anyone. It may not be wise to let some people have assault weapons. It is also unwise to take assault weapons away from some citizens. I won't volunteer for sacrifice!
Let’s just say you have he right to bear a muzzle loader. That was the first gun I ever shot at the age of 5. My daddy had one. Do you know how long it takes an expert to reload? Let’s just say I could run at you and hit you with a rock in the meantime. No automatic weapons!
There is only one species that you need an AR-15 to "hunt."
Stop the Bullshit!
Saying that you need an AR-15 to hunt is saying that you want to keep your options open to be a mass murderer.
This is so very true.
That and we have grocery stores now.
For now.
Anyone who needs an AR-15 to hunt should find another hobby at which they may have some skill
I hear archery is nice.
Same people that thought the neighbor's mailbox needed an M80 inside it.
I know people who hunt with bows. Seriously, if you’re that bad at it, just stop.
Exactly! What left of the game once you obliterate it! The taste alone will have a strange taste! Animals secrete hormones when they are scared and that gets into the meat!
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If you need 30 rounds to take a deer, somebody needs to teach you to shoot. And maybe something about gun safety while they're at it. #GunControlNow
They need AR’s for the big feral pigs, the only big feral pigs I see are the ones holding the weapons
The AR-15 is to protect you from a corrupt government when it starts putting troops on the streets...oh, wait...
Hmmm...that has worked out well hasn't it. With protectors so brave they are worried about being struck by a salami sub.
We could give 200,000,000 of our biggest guns to Ukraine and Palestine and nobody would even know they were gone
I was trained on the AR-15 for 5 years in the Army. I don't need one either. I'd happily give that up to make kids safer. Weapons are mostly misfire and suicide enablers, anyway.
Misfire galore.
Baby steps. Charlie Kirk is now on board with more gun restrictions. For trans people. smh
Real hunters have skill. And respect that they already have a human advantage over their targets with a shotgun. Using an assault weapon to pulverize an animal is pathetic. But that’s not really why is it. Americans are afraid of each other. When they should be afraid of this fascist regime.
That all started when the ducks and deer started shooting back.
earlier this year, my country (Sweden) had one of the worst mass/school shooting in history, this happened in febuary and now 1st of August ar-15 hunting rifles and similar are banned. Now I know that there are differences between our nations but I will never understand the gun culture in the US.
Australia's gun violence went down after their similar bans in the 1990's. Countries are more alike than different, these days
Sure, this new law is not perfect. You can still buy semi auto hunting rifles, it is more or less the ones that you can much easier modify, put accessories on that have been banned. in my opinion it is something, and while not perfect you dont need AR15s for hunting.
I like shooting guns and I do wish sometimes it would be easier to get them but all I need to think about is that if it was easier, then so many more would be dead and that always makes me change my mind on the subject. If it means saving lives then im all for making it harder to get.
There are cultural differences in our nations. What there should never be are differences in our humanity. I will never understand the gun culture of the US and I grew up and have lived all me life here. My dad put food on the table regularly with a shotgun, no AR whatever needed.
A massive amount of money spent on propaganda. Its sad and frustrating to read about it happening again, even tho im on the other side of the ocean, cant even imagine how frustrating and hard it must be for you all. Especially with everything else going on.
We do not need a weapon of war. Full stop
I think they dropped that canard a long time ago.
we need them to protect us from a tyrannical government but also we need a tyrannical government so I guess it's pretty nuanced
OK, now that made me laugh. Point well taken, but dynamite to fish? OMG I still can't stop laughing!
Pretty sure it was proven that it’s useless for hunting…see last campaign
Ironically those are of the same demographic
You are corret, if you show up with a 9mm, it's fair to say it's could be for self defense. If you show up with a AR-15 "Bitch is going to War"! People will die.
Reminder that Bobby Jr just recently suggested Alaskans be allowed to use SNAP to buy gun shells to put food on their families... DIY ground venison.
Lindsey Graham sat in the 2013 Assault Weapons Ban hearings & said he owns one “for fun” (not hunting) & nobody should be able to tell him what kind of gun he can own any more than he should be able to tell you what movie you can see. The “you” was the Sandy Hook community. He said it to our faces.
I would offer his family thoughts and prayers if somebody shot HIM with an AR 15. My thought would be he deserved it, and I would pray he went straight to hell! Fuck you Lindsey! What have you done for SC? Or America?
He’s a POS. When he said that I had to leave the room momentarily because I honestly felt like I could kill him with my bare hands, I’d never felt anything like that. Before that he ignored the families testimony, looked at phone, shuffled papers, talked to his aids. I fucking hate him.
Perhaps Graham does not realize that no movie viewing has ever resulted in the shooting deaths of 26 people. Maybe he should have tried a different analogy.
MAGA types are too stupid to understand the concept of high-velocity ammunition and how it's different from, say, a shotgun. I don't say this out of prejudice, I've had the arguments with them when they start yapping about "you want to ban BB guns" and other stupidities. Gun culture is abominable.
Well put. Thank you.
What's sportsman like to use a cannon to kill a mosquito or a semiautomatic to kill game?
Saying you need an AR 15 to hunt is admitting you are a shitty hunter with awful aim. Unless you’re hunting Nazis, then still seems you are implying a skill issue but your heart in the right place so carry on.
Say 24.6 million Americans own them. I would happily have my tax dollars buy them back.
And the rest. There's 350m+ guns in the US.
It would be a good use for some of that defense budget.
It would be a cost effective SELF-defense budget. But that's probably too logical for MAGA.
I'll never understand MAGA's obsession with assault weapons. Is it a small pee pee thing?
It is a cultural touchstone and an accessory that says to other people in their community "I am one of you".
I had a friend (he’s deceased) from my childhood. Always voted Republican, loved trump, had an assault weapon in his house for protection. Lived 3 hours from Washington DC but never visited DC.
"Need" is a red herring. AR-variants are in wide use for hunting a variety of game, and for legitimate reasons. What do you hunt, and with what?
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exactly if you need that powerful a weapon to hunt or defend yourself you are a bad shot and a POS this is not about taking away all guns just paramilitary equipment
Silly Boy. Guns are for stopping a corrupt government.
Do not criticize my Uncle Bo and his preferred fishing method.... As for Hunting with an AR-15, we all know it's horseshit... Bazookas are the best hunting weapons
The industry shit-canned long time outdoor writer Jim Zumbo for saying exactly this years ago. It's all about the Benjamins, all the time, even when used to kill us. It became an unbreakable cult. So we have mass shootings.
Zumbo got canned because he basically called his colleagues, who were National Match shooters, terrorists, due to the rifles they use. He was out of line.
Not what I read.
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The men who want their guns are the same men who beat their wives and rape their children. Just so we are all clear on who America caters to!
Indeed.
Apparently you need all those guns to rise up against a tyrannical government...... job done. 🙄👌
Throwing explosives in lakes to see the fish die is a thing in crackerland too don’t ya know.
Having spent a few years living in the Midwest, I was going to say exactly this!
It’s the awful people in office - it starts there
I remember a news story about a man who was killed by his neighbor firing an AR-15 at a coyote in a tree and hitting him instead. You can make an argument for them for people who are too lazy to aim.
The reason there are no school shootings in other countries is because access to guns is highly restricted. It’s a simple way to correct a horrible recurring problem we have in America. Of course, Republicans have a problem for every solution.
The proof is there, RFK jr restricting vaccines, and look you've got measles, restrict guns and you'll have your children
I mean, that's kind of an extreme example considering the rounds used for hunting are much bigger than the typical 5.56 round but I understand your general argument.
If you need an AR-15 to hunt, you are one shtty hunter.
I like to use a double-sided battle axe to mince garlic.
Kind of but not a great analogy. It's more like using a net to fish. Dynamite will destroy the game; it's not tactical. An AR-15, if anything, will preserve more of the game (tactical weapon).
One senator insisted he needed his AR 15 to kill prairie chickens.
Christians love to murder things 2000 years of murder and greed. Praise
Can remember all the leaked tapes of Obama campaigning in Pennsylvania.
And how about “stop hunting” you bloodthirsty Neanderthals?
no one hunts with an assault rifle. it destroys to much meat. that argument is bullshit. they do use them for coyotes around here because the point is just to get rid of the varmints. they will come in a farmyard and kill everything. they will kill the dogs, cats, calves, lambs, and even peacocks.
It's not a "modern hunting rifle " It tears flesh apart.
Republicans need them to hunt Democrats.
My father and my grandfathers had contempt for hunters who carried assault rifles. My cousins who hunt almost all own and use assault rifles.
Definitely 💯 agree. We don't need weapons of mass destruction in our streets.
Depends on who-- err, what you're hunting.
AR15 would be perfect for my new reality show called “Hunting with Don Jr. “ It takes place on a deserted island. Winner gets AR15 and 100 rounds. Don Jr. gets a 10 minute head start.
Much better candidates for this out there than Don Jr - Leonard Leo, Stephen Miller, Russ Vought…
If you need that kind of power to hunt, maybe you need better aim not bigger guns.
When I fish,I like to use a glow in the dark minnow lure,some weights and C-4 explosives.makes for a relaxing day on the lake.
When I’ve pushed the automatic rifle questions at Trump supporters, they too responded with “hunting”. I said that’s no sport.. it slaughter. When I smacked that down and pushed harder on why they need an automatic, they finally said: Because I want one. There we have it.
That's what it has always been: "I want one and no one is going to tell me what I can and cannot own; and the Constitution allows me to indulge my desires in that regard." (although, it doesn't outside of being for the purpose of forming a well-regulated militia for the defense of the state.)
i actually know of rednecks that do fish like that. LOL
AR 15 are for hunting people. They should not be in the hands of civilians.
Exactly. When the 2nd amendment was written, they could never imagined we’d evolve as humans the way we did. 😔
And since Trump's entry into the Oval Office, they should not be in the hands of anyone under his command either.
No one seems to be able to show me a better tool in terms of accessibility and deadliness for mowing down herds of human prey.
Cars.
Although they do, at least, have a non-deadly use.
True. I read a blog way back that said guns are not the worst we can have. That with out them people would still look to do harm...just by other means. Consider China and their issue with school stabbings by adults. Humans are inventive and adaptable for better and worse.
Sure people will find other means to harm others. That does not mean we should not make the ownership of this means of harm as difficult as possible to use on other people.
The UK has a ban on guns, criminals then started using knives. So the UK, to my knowledge, has limited the quality of kitchen knives. There is a balance. And using the way you said it leads to a backslide in quality of anything that can be a weapon...which is everything.
I agree humans will always make & keep weapons. But not all weapons are created equal and one can do much more damage more rapidly with an AR - whatever, than one can do with a knife. Students/citizens in Australia and France have fought off knife wielding assailants with backpacks. Can't with guns.
I can do as much harm with a hand gun as an AR-15 as both are, unless modified, Semi-Automatic firearms. AR, to be clear, means Armalite Rifle and not assault rifle. Yes the 5.56 round is nasty...but a .45 ACP Hollow Point can cause equally traumatic wounds.
The AR-15 has a mythos that is being used and blown out of proportion to what it actually is. And any regulation needs to be done with out emotion. Because when you regulate by feels, you make things worse. That is what I am saying.
Now I am for rational limits. I am for a license system more like the DMV where you need training, testing, buy in to get the tool. And if you want a more powerful tool, you need a better license and more training. But an outright ban will just lead to home made arms as this is america and yeah...
I bought a kitchen knife recently, there is no issue with quality, but I had to collect it from customer services after I'd paid for it with my other shopping. They are also hot about not letting young people buy such knives - as it's mostly an issue with teens & bravado.
If the Founding Fathers - wealthy aristocrats, many of which owned slaves - knew that firearms would evolve into AR-15s with 3D printable bump stocks they probably would’ve written the 2nd Amendment differently
Not necessarily. I don't believe they ever intended weapons of war to be in the hands of every member of the population. The did, however, intend that the citizens who made up the militia to protect their states & communities, should have free access to the weapons they needed as part of that.
And said militia members could equally well do that by storing their weapons at an armory or gun club. We have one near my home and I do not mind their practicing even after standard business hours or on the weekends. Small price to pay to not have them wandering around shooting people.
An armed militia was necessary when the 2A was written because we did not have a standing army. Now there is NO REASON every idiot and his brother need AR-15s.
How about we offer an originalist compromise - citizens can have as many smoothbore, muzzle-loading flintlock muskets as they like I think that’s fair and likely closer to what the writers of the Constitution intended
How's Cletus gonna feel like a real man with that!?!
They can have alpha sigma male races to see if they can reload in under 30 seconds It’ll be fine. They can also use those stupid hats they wore when they complained about being taxed too much only to cheer on tariffs they pay a decade later
I Don't disagree with that.
That's actually a thing in the Indian Ocean😝
There is no need for any semi-automatic weapon for hunting. If you think you need one, you ain’t worth shit as hunter.
But but... My 12 children play in a local park where there are 30 to 40 feral hogs running around just waiting to attack them. I have to use my AR-15 to shoot up the park before my children can play in peace. This is the reality and why I need 24 guns of various kinds to protect my family.
Kinda takes the "sport" out of "outdoor sports" 😒
Absolutely. I'm not a hunter because there isn't enough money in the world but for crap's sake, you're not hunting with an AR-15. You're obliterating. Jesus.
But do I need an AR-15 to protect myself from all the people that already have AR-15s?
My (ex) friend told me she "needed" an AR-15 for "target practice"... for real.
Agreed. I don't hunt anymore but I'd use a larger caliber than a .223 for anything the size of a white tail deer or bigger. You want to drop it in one shot not spray lead.
AR15 is chambered and barreled almost identically to the Ruger Mini14. Difference is the AR15 is designed to let stupid people play soldier: if you see someone with a Mini14, you assume he's going to shoot a coyote. With an AR15, he's going to kill a person. The Right fetishizes killing people.
Jfc. I didn’t even know people were allowed to hunt with them. 🤯 I thought it had to be a shotgun or rifle or whatever. 🤦♀️
IDK about other states, but states I'm familiar with don't allow those super high velocity rounds for hunting (except "varmints", i.e. not food animals). They will destroy any meat value because of the way they liquify flesh through shock. It's what makes them so lethal.
Ok, not to be a jerk, sometimes fisherman do use something like M80's to create chum in the water to attract larger fish, like sharks, usually during fishing tournaments. But I get your reference 🤷♀️
Anyone who needs an AR 15 to hunt is no hunter!
Can you tell me the difference between a semi automatic .223 varmit rifle and an AR-15?
I can tell the diff between a Ruger mini-14 & an AR-15, even if both use the same ammo (.223). An AR-15 isn't a long rifle which needs to be handled using both hands & it has an ergonomic design which facilitates spraying bullets from the hip. It's meant to shred pumpkins & humans, not hunting.
Ergonomics is correct. But i can tell you any person who thinks “spraying bullets from the hip” has the wrong idea. If spraying is an issue ban multiple fire items. And nice article that you took from the web.
I researched guns back in 1989, after 14 women were killed at Polytechnique using a Ruger mini-14, since I was a student at Université de Montréal at the time. Actually, I was at Poly 24 hrs before the shooting & couldn't set foot on campus for weeks. We requested new gun laws ASAP.
You can fire .223 in an AR15, but not the other way around. Same calibre, different power.
They do have nato 556 round varmint. It called wild cat chamber.
They say it’s fun to shoot. Seems like that’d be an easy trade-off to save a child’s life.
Why carry a weapon into a hunt that doesn't have the capacity to kill prey because the cartridge was designed to disable more than kill? Sounds pretty fucking irresponsible.
We shoot moose here on our hunts and we sure as fuck don't use ar15"s
5.56 would only piss it off.
I dont know if a moose needs 150 bullets... most hunters are able to catch their prey with I dunno... aiming or something.
Back in 2016 I was very verbal about this. They claimed they needed one to protect their family. My reply was a simple hand gun will suffice. If you want an AK JOIN THE FUCKING MILITARY & go straight to the front lines. You can shoot it all you want.But they have proven they are thorough COWARDS.
Not really sure the interest in hurting animals in the first place. I don’t even fish with a line and hook though. Tearing an animal out of their home with a hook through their mouth then suffocating them for minutes before throwing them back is traumatizing to the fish and is not entertainment.
We need to stop arguing with the idiots who say that and go around them.
In Florida, I can’t count but sooo many people who work with my husband all have AR 15’s. He wanted a hand gun and I said it’s me or a gun, any gun. Hence, we own no guns at all. TG
What if I’m fishing for gold in there hills?
it only takes 1 ID to buy a weapon ?????
None if you're a criminal
Absolutely, 🍊💩wasn’t shot either his head would have been blown open!
Only thing I'm hunting with an AR15 is pedophiles
Uhmn,…how else did Jebus singlehandedly feed the masses…fish? He walked on the water and dropped a couple o’ sticks of TNT! Upshot, fried fish! Sheesh. MAGA Making America Godless(as shit)Again! 👊🇺🇸💣
I want the Army's newest combat rifle by Sig Sauer. .277 Fury. I believe chamber pressure and muzzle velocity are classified. 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 Definitely not for hunting! Just for killing. When MAGA surrounds you be prepared!
They are fun to shoot, I won't pretend they aren't. And yes, they CAN be used for hunting, but they aren't really needed for that. And in many cases they're the worse option. I use a bolt action .270 for deer. If you need more than 2-3 shots to drop a deer, you're just a bad shot.
Be careful what you wish for… gop might finally take assault rifles away from you peasants just when they are needed to take back your country. When they are afraid that you might turn those guns on them, then they will act, swiftly.
AR-15 was designed for one thing!!!
As far as hunting goes, I was taught to use one shot.
Only if you want Bambi pre-ground.
It’s bad if I laugh at this, right?
How could there be anything edible after being blown through by an ar-15?
White Nationalists need AR-15s to hunt … … … non-white people and those who do not comply when ICE finally deputizes them to do so.
Exactly!!!
Exactly
My Dad said in the Navy during WW II they used a depth charge.
But, their prey is children.
We need them because our police are TERRIBLE people.
Ar15,means the same as vegetarian. Shitty hunter.
If, at any point of your life, you say, “I need an AR-15” then I guarantee you have a small penis
Exactly!!!!! 💯
Nobody needs anAR-15. Ridiculous mind set some people have
an AR-15 at .223 is unsuitable for hunting, it will not bring down big game. it is meant to wound humans. because one wounded soldier takes two off the field.
By design. Anyone using the "hunting" rebuttal is bullshit.
Saying you need an AR-15 to hunt is saying you also have erectile dysfunction
Too bad they don't show the destruction they cause on a human body,
My dad owned one gun. It most closely resembled the one on the bottom left. And no, I don't know its exact name or what size bullets he used, but that never stopped me from appreciating that it regularly helped him put food on our table and was not a toy or weapon against other humans.
“It’s to protect us from fascism!” Bro, the government is literally kidnapping U.S. citizens and sending them to foreign gulags. When do you start doing what you say you were going to be doing?
We are a nation of obsession. We no longer have just normal needs as we have them in abundance. Now we need the biggest house and car how many sneakers can I own I have a gun but want a bigger and badder one. We have become the screw you because I can nation we are over the edge.
Fun fact: I had to attend a gun safety course before I could hunt. That was with a simple rifle. Now you can take an AR and hunt children without any friction 🤬
You dont need to hunt either.
Federalist 19 and 2A were clear for 200+ years that it was a State right and not an individual one. Scalia decided, in a legal system that debates the word ‘is’, that we could toss out the first half and have a new interpretation. Activist judge. You know, what the gop screamed against.
Big, tough hunters should be able to just use a big knife- not a large caliber rifle. Right big, tough hunters?
I totally agree with this statement
no kidding!
But, some DO, which is why there are LAWS AGAINST using dynamite to fish. OR just for most to OWN it. BUT, no LAW, most places, against owning an AR-15 (except where I am, in California.)
The only semi reasonable response I’ve seen to them is packs of wild boars in Texas area
Not a 15 so much as a 180 or 10
If you’re hunting 8 & 10 year old kids in schools, it’s perfect.
Silly, we need them to stop government oppression. Now let's put our standing army in the streets and get that Gestapo cracking heads!
My husband is a hunter. He takes a .32 Winchester special rifle and two bullets with him when he goes. He always comes home with a deer and one bullet. If you need an AR-15 to hunt you are a pathetic marksman and should not be allowed to handle ANY weapins
My dad was an avid hunter. He poo-poo-d weapons that are automatic. He said "if you need more than one shot, you're just a bad shot".