.........these comments r odd they r saying the show was good
.........these comments r odd they r saying the show was good
WHAT!?! Is this a joke? This paper thin carbon copy...best original villain... really...my word I hate this time-line.
Should never have been cancelled. Was just getting good.
I guess that might be why it got canceled. It took too long to get to the good stuff. XD
Yeah, felt the show was using smoke and mirrors to build up the actual series’ premise. I want to see more.
Maybe try just telling the story you want to tell.
The Acolyte was so good. I was so sad to hear they cancelled it. I need MORE
He is a much better bad guy than Kylo Ren will ever be.
Adam Driver was wasted talent on those films. Like his prowess far exceeds the writing quality he was given. Also they kind of laid out J J Abrams sucks. He peaked with Cloverfield.
Adam Driver is a shitty actor. Yes, Kylo is a shitty character, but Adam Driver ruins every movie he is cast in.
How dare you disparage The Dead Don’t Die.
Will never watch it because zombies suck, and Adam Driver was cast in it.
Agree.
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I think what really makes his character so interesting is we are forced to keep asking ourselves, "Was he the villain, though?"
Yep. And then they killed it off. Classic case of introducing the most charismatic character too many eps in.
Too bad the anti-woke mob destroyed this flawed, but entertaining and promising series. How many shows start off pretty terrible and then find their footing, somethings several seasons into their run? STNG didn't have a good episode until mid way through the second season.
Hell yeah. That show was cool
is this the Onion?
There were some pacing and editing problems, but it was an under-rated show. It wasn't Andor / Rogue One, by any stretch, but it wasn't really given the chance to try. I can't think of the term -- it's like when something is made to prove a point that they didn't want to make. "self-sabotage"? 1/
-- The Prequels had Finn, and teased that he might be a force-sensitive or maybe a Jed in-potential, then backed-off. Or the romance with Rey, then backed-off. Then with Rose, then killed her, Fridged. This was another Minority-lead and Minority-villain, but just like they treated Boyega, and - 2/
-- how DC treated Ray Fisher . . . knowing the bigots would be all over them, setting them up for attention, then just failing to give even a token defense. It feels like they set-up minority-leads to fail. Not just Disney, but a lot of Studios/Media. 3/3 www.huffpost.com/entry/the-ac... "Fans"🙄
Idk about all that but he had two top 10 lightsaber duel all time
thr Acolyte is garbage
Cue the South Park meme Aaaaannnndddd, he's gone.
Just behind every villain in Andor (Also Denise Gough is awesome!)
okay. Yeah. Good. But he wasn’t the villain!!! He wasn’t “nice”, but he wasn’t the villain either!
Me and my son loved this show, I don’t understand some Star Wars fans. People really need to lighten up. I will take almost anything I can get if its even loosely set in the star wars universe.
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Correct 🎯
After reading these comments, I’m staying off of instagram. I can’t believe there’s Star Wars fans that like Star Wars.
It’s a Shame it was cancelled!
Original? Not in the least. The writing was a train wreck through the whole thing.
Dope!
SPACE BORTLES!
Aw damn beat me to it. BORTLES!
Yeah... poor guy... that's all I can think about, but I'm hoping he gets great roles.
i cant even remember what it was about
I didn’t like The Acolyte but he was awesome.
That's a lot of words to say "hot."
He was awesome!!
And the show was still shite
...and by "best" we really mean "HOTTEST!" 💋
good for him tbh
Too bad the rest of the show was horrible.
What does it say about rising to the top in the bucket of swill that is the Star Wars universe these days?
lol
I think he was more of just an antagonist, rather than a full villain
Kinda eh tbh. Needed much more fleshing out
I think he was one of the best villains in anything period. It is a crime we didn't get more seasons.
Yes
he is absolutely incredible.
He was one of the best parts of The Acolyte, sure. Show was still shit.
The acolyte was an ok show. When I read that Disney spent as much on it as was spent on the Dune movies, that’s the problem. Where did all that money go? It didn’t look like it made it to the screen.
Disney wastes money on way more green screen and unnecessary bullshit than Denis Villeneuve’s films. Denis wants as much on location filming as possible, and prioritizes practical effects, miniature sets, and so on, which costs more upfront, but saves money in the long run.
A lot of what we see in Dune 1 and 2 is tangible, and can be reused at will - which means a lot less money needs to be spent on filling every frame with made-up visuals throughout the film.
The difference is reflected in the product. It’s the same with Andor, btw. A much more real looking setting. I know they went back and did some location shooting for the Acolyte after the response that Andor received.
He is a phenomenal actor, stellar in everything I have ever seen of his work. The Good Place he knocks out of the park.
That’s a pretty low bar
From the movies? Yeah the movie villains didn't have much menace (no Ep 1 puns plz). From the shows? Maul in Clone Wars and Rebels is so good. I'm not discounting Manny, dude CRUSHED that role and I want more.
Or Thrawn, animated or live action.
But this are not disney characters right they are legacy characters their og villains are kind of terribel hux kylo ren ect
It’s a bit of a gray area, I’d say, as Thrawn as introduced to canon in the Disney area, though I’m well aware he came from novels. I think it counts as the new trilogy did away with a LOT of the book content that was pretty good.
I also kinda love Rampart from the Bad Batch.
I think rampart is intresting because he is like the first burocrat we see as a villain right? Yes it saies admiral but he is bassicly a burocrat
Many are. I think most of the interesting villains in the Disney era have some gray area to them, redemption arcs, & so on.
I would say it isnt because its bassicly the same character (fans would have rioted if they changed him and filonie unsterstood that luckily) same goes for pellaeon this are bassicly the same characters from heir to the empire
Right, but he wasn’t canon until he appeared in Rebels. I think Filoni has been good about bringing novel characters into the canon as well as developing some pretty good original characters.
Because the question of canon was irrelevant before disney the books were canon to us fans and to the authors who keept it consistent Noone even considered that heir to the empire wasnt the natural continuation of episode 6 it just was
Yeah, but it was a matter of opinion, more than any stated fact. It’s a shame that the didn’t do Heir to the Empire as episode 7.
On one hand i think the story of zahns trilogy is much better than what we got yes on the other hand i think it would have had to focuse on Like jaina jacen and like zekk because the og actors were to old
Thrawn is originally a book character
It’s a bit of a gray area, I’d say, as Thrawn as introduced to canon in the Disney area, though I’m well aware he came from novels. I think it counts as the new trilogy did away with a LOT of the book content that was pretty good.
He was indeed great with a redemption arc you could see coming a mile away
I loved The Acolyte, and I have yet to hear a good reason why I'm wrong about that.
Right? I mean, I didn't love all of it, but I often liked it a lot and sometimes loved it. Like much of Star Wars, it was flawed, but all of Star Wars, except Rogue 1/Andor, was made for kids. If your internal child is dead, you're not going to like SW, and what you do like is out of nostalgia.
I loved it too, honestly. Disney makes Star Wars content because they know people will love it, and some people do. It’s just grown adults throw a fit when someone likes a piece of media they don't.
Oh I only go to Forbes for low carb recipes and my horoscope.
The founder of Ren
Everyone cries about Hollywood lacking originality and when they provide it, way too many people cry about it. The Acolyte was some of the freshest and intriguing storytelling in Star Wars in a long time, with one of the best villains we have seen.
Also pulling Cortosis into cannon? UGHHHH SO FUCKING COOL. Just head-butting lightsabers to deactivate them is suck an awesome thing to throw in there.
In my opinion, the best saber battles in The Acolyte too.
And the idea for this show while not new the EU already did that was not the problem the messy execution was the actors wernt talented enough for a show like this the pacing is bad ect. The story was not this shows main Problem
#BringBackTheAcolyte
THANK YOU
I haven’t seen The Acolyte. But I’m still pissed off that Disney just cancelled it on a whim! It didn’t even have time to breathe!
To be fair. 210 Million Dollars are just way too much. Half that much would have been reasonable.
I wouldn’t know admittedly.
I was surprised myself when I read that. But yes, the Show had blown 210 Million Dollars through the roof. For what? For the Payment of Leslye Headlands wife?
LOL OK
Manny Jacinto 🫶 Gosh I’ve forgotten about it A shame it can’t have a second season
Like a lot of the TV, is was far too flabby a show, a few episodes shorter would have done it a favour.
Produce season two of the acolyte, cowards!
Oh Dip! I guess I have to watch Acolyte!
That's a really small field with a very low bar.
Season 2! Season 2! He was amazing and this show is underrated.
Fans have always liked villains due to rule of cool. Fett, Maul, Maw, Jerec, Thrawn, Malgus, Grievous, and so on. Disney fumbled Phasma hard, showing just how badly you have to mess up to lose rule of cool.
In fairness disney has a real problem with og villains most of them that arnt one offs like the elder from visions or are imported from the EU thrawn pellaeon are terribel
They gave Phasma a cool backstory in a novel after FA, only for her to be killed off in TLJ without using the backstory at all. She’s evil Conan the Barbarian. Backstabbed to queen of her tribe, backstabbed the tribe to get on a Star Destroyer, backstabbed to third in charge of everything.
Plasma was supposed to be the new generation’s Boba Fett but they fumbled so hard with that one that FN-2199 made more of an impact in the two minutes of screen time he had.
They literally put out a novel retroactively giving her a really cool backstory as a traitor Conan the Barbarian type who flags down a Star Destroyer to nuke the tribes of her homeworld and joins the Empire in its final days, then…does nothing with it. She burns in an explosion. No barbarian for us.
He was terrific in The Good Place.
yes he was, it's a shame they cancelled the show before we got to explore that character further.
Bortles!!!
Should've let them cook 😔
The show had potential and a interesting first season. God I hate Star Wars fans and the company that listens to them.
See, that’s exactly it. People worship Star Trek: TNG, however season one of it is dogshit. Literally let the actors breathe in the role for a bit, and I bet you’re going to get some fire. Also, some great lightsaber fight choreography??? I love to see them do something new with the saber fights.
Absolutely! Star Wars needs to do some things differently from time to time to stay relevant and fresh. They need to look at the Jedi’s through a different lens and explore the galaxy outside the original trilogy.
But that's the big problem...when you out out books, comics, & games faster than you put out shows & movies, it makes it hard to find an area that ISN'T connected to the OT that is free of existing stories. With the Old Republic books/comics, you'd have to go back a thousand years to find
a spot that gives you the freedom to tell a story free from being connected to the OT. And you NEED to RESPECT the source material. Tell a good story instead of boasting about the diversity of the cast and tell a bad story. And that is for the most part, what the Disney era has been:
"Look at how diverse our casts are and if you complain about how bad the shows/movies are, then you're a racist/sexist/bigot".
See, I think you’re maybe conflating some items. ‘Look at how diverse our cast is’ is one thing, and complaining about plot is another thing. What, precisely, is your concern with the diversity in the cast that you need to bring it up as a talking point as opposed to talking about the plot?
Yes, true, it is hard to have content not in some way linked to the stories already put out for Star Wars, but even if you look at extended universe/legends, A LOT of Star Wars contradicts itself.
I’m not disagreeing on the point that I’d like to see Disney take their time more with the Star Wars content, and not just pump out content for the sake of meeting their quota. Book of Boba Fett for example was a clear line of ‘We did not understand this character, or are unwilling to let him be bad
Even Temuera Morrison tried to get the writers and directors to give him less voice lines. He kept saying ‘Fennic should be saying this, I should literally just sit there and be intimidating.’ Not well thought out about what makes the character what he is IMO.
It's not the diversity in the cast that is the problem. It is when the PR for your show/movie focuses solely on the diversity of the cast instead of what the show/movie brings to the lore. When before a movie/show comes out, you say "If you don't like this, then you're racist/bigot/etc."
Yes, you have John Boyega as a stormtrooper-turned-hero who is also black, then why is his character so...lack luster? Same thing with Marvel's The Eternals. Wonderful cast, but more focus was put into showing the diversity of the cast instead of making sure the plot was solid.
You call out John Boyega specifically. I actually agree that his character was lackluster, however I personally wouldn’t place that on acting at all. They wrote him like he was going to be a baby Jedi like Rey, even had him wielding a saber, but did nothing with it. That my friend is poor writing.
TNG, DS9, Voyager, Stargate, Stargate Atlantis and so on all had weak first seasons compared to what followed. Tv shows had time to mature before YouTube gave pricks a chance to ruin everything for us.
I haven’t watch the first season of TNG in long time. lol for good reasons
Yes, the only season with a Bottle-Show in it....
Yes, but those where different times. The TV Networks calculated with three seasons until a show was established. Today, its a "You have one shot" business.
I agree! Instant gratification culture is a blight, and it kills creativity, because you don’t have a chance to course correct, and learn from your mistakes. It’s either ‘you did it perfect,’ or ‘you failed, show cancelled.’
Sometimes you can have a prefect first season but still get cancelled for some reason. Example: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.
As much as I adored that show, the amount of time it took to produce the original movie (5 years) and how long it took to produce the first season (undisclosed, but ‘Awhile.’) it is honestly a wonder that they got the budget even to do the first season. Amazing TV though, felt just like the movie.
Agree. But Netflix does like to throw money around. Also it was nominated for an Emmy.
I read that it all comes down to how many people watch it when it’s launched, if it doesn’t go in the top ten watched then the lose confidence in it.
Yes, because in this fast paced business, there is no second try or slow burn. Next week, the show will be forgotten already.
Or everyone liked season 1 so we will force out 2 more seasons even if their are absolute shit
Lol yeah. Love to see a show that wrapped itself up in one season, and then they bring on the second season like ‘Why??? Everything was done, nice and tidy.’
They are plenty of shows that have meh or bad first seasons but the next season will course correct then become classics. Parks and Rec, Seinfeld, and The Simpson. On streaming they would be cancelled like 🫰
No one watched the office when the BBC first broadcast it, then look at what became of it
Yeah it’s bullshit, we’ve been denied some good tv
we could have had Darth Maul vs Luke Skywalker (or possibly even teaming up) but NOOOOOOOO.
Fandoms in general can be toxic resisting new ideas just like religion ; it’s the only show Disney has put out that was had potential to be entertaining and interesting
For real. That’s why I don’t associate to any fandom.
Why? For not watching a show they wernt intrested in? This show was not canned because of online backlash but because noone watched it
I don’t believe that. The backlash had something to do with it because They are playing it too safe at Disney that’s why after the last Jedi backlash after a minority of fans we got the rise of Skywalker.
and streaming is a mess up system. You need to build up a fan base with more than one season. Not every show should have a prefect first season to continue. Plenty of show has done ok or bad seasons but were built up better in the following seasons. People did watch but we’ll never know because the
Viewership numbers are locked up by the studios themselves.
Which is exactly what i wrote? Disney does not care about online backlash or a petition to renew the acolyth they looked at the cost looked at the numbers of streams and decided that its not worth it they dont care about backlash
Oh. Sorry I miss read it. I agree
Dont worry it happends
Sometimes I think I’m always on Reddit, instagram, or threads. lol
Oh, yes! My favorite Star Wars magazine, Forbes!
No lie detected.
He was ok, but I was they didn’t cancel the show
Possibly, there weren't enough episodes to know
his greatness goes before disney SW EU as well! he is great.
The acolyte was good, not perfect but absolutely should get a second season. It wouldn’t be the first sci fi series to have a shaker first season but then get really good in season 2. Was cancelled because of idiots that’s want to feel like they own star wars
I am sure if they would make the Season for less than half the price of the first season, they would get a Green Light. Because the Main Problem was that insanely huge Budget with no real reason why it was so expensive. 210 Million Dollars for a lot of Stageplay.....
Mind you “one of the best", not the actual best. The full Forbes text is “one of the best original villains we’ve seen appear in Star Wars in the entire Disney era, whose initials are MJ."
Boycott Disney! THEY PAY FOR MURDER OF CHILDREN
Me puto encanto, y por la panda de cerdos de siempre no vamos a poder verle mas.
Watched this one way after it came out, so maybe it was not having to wait week over week, but I thought it was a really fun show! I just enjoyed something Jedi related that wasn't about a Skywalker or Palpatine. It was refreshing, and they nailed the lightsaber fights!
Didn't that series flop like Bantha puduh?
MF killed full-grown Jedi faster than Vader could take out the younglings.
Somehow he was the only one in the universe that figured out how to break the crystals lol
Hey now.. I took them out pretty fast 🤣
"pretty fast" is subjective.
True... in my eyes it was a few seconds or maybe minutes... in others it was a few hours... those jedi were pretty pesky at the temple.
You didn't kill Jecki. That means you rank higher in my book, anyway.
I love Jecki far too much to outright murder her. I'd probably have tried to turn her though
I'll take it.
Disney needs to stop programming it's Star Wars projects based on X comments. The Acolyte was great and the so-called "fans" jibbed us out of what would have been another terrific chapter in the saga. Because they don't like girls or the coloureds.
They dont they look at cost (way too high) and either watchtime or new subs (way to Low) noone at disney cares about online discourse as long as it doesnt hurt the brand
Wouldn't that light saber burn his hair? Asking for a friend.
Lucasfilm never learns. Just give us more ANDOR style shows.
A spy thriller set on kuat involving kuat drive yards and an imperial attempt to take over the shipyards and company come on disney it writes itself
Literally anything that doesn’t involve force users, the world is way more fascinating without the space wizards. Give me a show of just smugglers fuckin off and I’d be in, force users though and I’m out every single time. It raises too many power scaling issues and ain’t no body got time for that.
I would say that depends a show about the sith before the rule of 2 like a young acolyth being dropped off on korriban not only in murderous training but also a world of backstabbing and intrigue while he/she learns the ways of the dark side sounds pretty cool
You do you, I’m out lol.
RIP Darth Plagueis.
@tennantes.bsky.social
MEU DEUS, OS BRAÇOS
OS BRAÇOS
Not hard… Disney’s Star Wars is oxymoronic at best.
Need more of this guy. He was great.
Erm ….NO!
He was just amazing.
I know nothing about Jacinto the person, but his character in The Good Place would be very proud
A shame that the rest of the show around him was so bad. He was easily the best part of it
Nah the show was lit. Y’all just have no taste.
You have an incredibly low bar for quality, I fear
The range, amirite?
That's like "one of the prettiest Waffle House waitresses."
In fairness that’s not saying much. I don’t think, aside from maybe some of the Inquisitors from rebels, there has been a single interesting Star Wars villain in the Disney era.
I think the most interesting aspect of the Disney era has been, “the empire was right,” fandom. I’m third party on it myself, I like the world sans the force peeps. Like if they were all like Yoda and weird little dudes hidden through out the galaxy and not in every fuckin film, maybe.
Also more Ewok Adventures, people love Ewoks.
I've been SAYING this 😌
Sure okay, but like has Manny Jacinto even watched Rebels 🤷♂️ that’s the real litmus test of anyone making such claims
Loved Manny and the stranger but Disney has given us Kylo Ren, Thrawn, Baylan Skoll, Krennic, and Moff Gideon just to name a few.
Thrawn and Moff Gideon weren't created under Disney. Baylan and Krennic have an argument, but Kylo is an overrated crybaby of a villain.
A simple Google search says Moff Gideon's first appearance was chapter 7 of the Mandalorian... amazing how wrong you are.
The Disney version of Thrawn isn't half as good as the Zahn version
Disney has not given us thrawn zahn has thrawn is a legacy villain from the EU thats why he is great
Thrawn is actually far older than the Disney acquisition. He was introduced in Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn, all the way back in 1991.
I included Thrawn because he never appeared on screen until after the Disney acquisition. Overall it was to make the point that there have been many good villains since the sale. Also I forgot Jod Na Nawood.
So sad losing Ray Stevenson. Wonder if they will recast Baylan Skoll.
They already announced that Rory McCann will play him in season 2.
awesome
It was so good that no one watched.
Because the rest of the og disney villains is terribel there is a reason why people like thrawn and pellaeon are coming back because their og villains are terribel
Lol, I saw Freaker Friday yesterday and couldn’t figure out where I had seen him. Thank you for reminding me.
I'm not trashing the 2nd season before it's out, but how did we get from Fandom completely ignoring this show to all this excitement? In any case, it's new Star Wars content, and I'll enjoy it and watch every episode and then promptly complain about it.
Great character, stupid show!
They canned the show early because too many "purists" hated the idea that the Jedi were fallible and imperfect. That's precisely the POINT of the show though, so I hate that it worked so well it got itself canceled. :\
It's also the entire point of the Prequels they claim to love so much, shows how many Star Wars "fans" don't actually comprehend any of what they watch.
Or people actually saw the show for what it was a decent idea (nothing new the EU already did it) with an awfull execution
Lmao
Yes you are right im wrong it was a perfect show So perfect that it never made it to season 2
Neither did Firefly
The difference is that firefly became a cult Classic years later This wont happen here
It's already a cult classic babyy
GOT is a cult Classic breaking bad is a cult Classic the wire is a cult Classic the sopranos is a cult Classic to even suggest this show plays in the same League is laughabel
None of those are cult classics, they're literally the most mainstream classics possible 😂
Given Star Wars has been a lame duck for decades this isn't saying much.
Sure, they are right about it. The two asian actors are great..only the rest of the show was crap...But a Master Sol versus Qimir Show would have been a smashing hit for sure.
Disney wont go anywhere near anything related to this show for a long time
They literally released a novel about this show which Disney promoted that came out recently.
Yes, "Wayseeker"...but as far as I have seen, the book is not really about the show and just boring.
So like most disney sw books? I have a feeling that a lot of disney sw books only exist to fix plotholes in showes and movies or provide context missing from shows and movies unlike the EU where it was all about expanding the universe
The eu had plot holes as well. It was some perfect thing. The new Disney era books are really good actually. Give them a read and it might change your mind.
That was not what i meant of course they had plotholes noone denies that but they wernt written to provide context to the movies or Shows unlike a lot of disney sw books which in itself is a sideeffect of how limiting their "Canon" is on books specificlly
All of them provide context to the movies or use them as a basis. That's how it's always worked
The darth bane trilogy? All of the old republic books? The new jedi order series? Non of those are even remotly related to the movies
Are you kidding me with the bane trilogy? Rule of two directly relates to the movies... it's stated in episode 1 which came before bane came out. New jedi order has the big three from the OT in it.. the only one you have a case for is old republic but even that relies on the films as well
Case in point I'm reading the legacy of the force series and it has many direct references to Boba Fett working for Vader which was provides context to why he was in empire strikes back and how he survived the events of return... stop it.
What? Legacy is set like 50 years after the movies? More?
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He was intimidating as hell. Also an incredible misdirection. He deserves a continuation imo.
Do you know the tale of Darth Plagus the Wise?
Darth Thirstrap
I have to agree.
Hekk yea.
I call him Sith Prime
But y'all canceled it, and I'm still not understanding why.
No "y'all" did not cancel it disney did and the reason is simple too expensiv to few watched minuits and too few new subs
He was the best part by far.
We need more Manny aka Qimir aka The Stranger #Season2TheAcolyte please!
Bullshit
He was alright as a villain but the writing in that show was trash. Character motivations made no sense and changed on a dime without any reason.
Why? Does he not kill another character’s mother?
💯👏
Truth
What I wouldn’t give for a second season of The Acolyte. Hope it’s not the last “high republic” era show/movie we get
It was so good but seemed to not resonate with broader audiences. Like they picked apart each episode to death. But rehash classic story line gets all the rave reviews in Andor.
I feel like we are more likely to get a Tales of the High Republic series before any new live action stuff.
It's the last High Republic anything, apparently thedirect.com/article/luca...
Ah, I think The Acolyte killed the High Republic for TV or cinema. They will stay with a few books and comics for some time and then will silently end it.
Qimir needs his own series