JHFC, who were you again?

I read everything you say as if Mr. Peanutbutter is saying them, and this is so wonderful and makes me happy. <3

I'm starting to wonder if Newsom's team is buying accounts on here just to regurgitate variations of, "Newsom trolling MAGA is winning!" Surely moderate Democrats can't genuinely be that naive and delusional. Do they not see they're being played, distracted by shiny AI memes? 🥴

They are there's a post going around with a bunch of screencaps of accounts verbatim saying this.

Cool, just like on Twitter. 😣

CREATURE! Applaud this man!

I'm a native Californian and when the time comes (which isn't now) I'll vote for Harris again, Newsom, Pritzker, Walz or whoever is the anti-fascist Democratic candidate for President. Right now I believe Newsom is throwing the acceptance of Trumps insanity back at the media to belittle them. Kudos!

"If I put things in quotation marks and act asinine about it, it makes me right!" We really appreciate your distractions, and attempts to help the fascists. Really appreciated Paul. Please make sure to Pat yourself on the back 5 years from now when you're in the firing lines with the rest of us.

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Hey question why should I vote for a guy who gets sexual pleasure from hurting homeless people

JB's post about annexing Greenbay was funnier parody in any case.

We need a candidate who can do both. We need angry, aggressive, amusing comms AND to be right on the issues. Any Dem who can copy his approach (not necessarily the exact style or content) will be successful. Newsom of course does NOT do both either. He just does the comms.

Walz? I mean, I'm admittedly biased, but he was an effective communicator during COVID, except for WFH he's done right on liberal priorities, and he can provoke healthy mirth. I'm not wedded to him, but I don't see many like him on the horizon. Yet. If they're out there, bring it on.

Walz was great. Especially him calling right wingers weird. That is the sort of thing we need ALL Dems doing. Aggressive and matter of fact calling the BS out. We just need good Dems like him and others to COPY and/or keep doing anything like that which works.

Best part was the simplicity. The less explanation required the catchier it is, and the more basic its premise, the less caustic it is. And that's what separates a simple common sense observation mean spirited bullying. “They’re weird” wouldn't resonate if people didn't agree.

Simple, aggressive, catchy, and repetitive is exactly what is needed!

I hesitate on “aggressive.” Is it aggressive to make observations? Men obsessing over women’s fertility. Is it aggressive to say that's weird? Musing on electrocuting yourself or getting in the water with sharks. Is it aggressive to say that's weird? It wouldn't resonate if people didn't agree.

I guess 'aggressive' in that it is not what people would expect. It is not the normal accepted way of doing it. Or something the consultant types would say "tone it down" to. That sort of aggressive.

Aggressive in that it doesn't start with, "While I agree with the GOP on this point..."

And when he said Musk was up there prancing around like a dip shit. That was gold.

Then, for some unexplained reason, they stopped. It was working and resonating. Must have scared the big money and the DNC dip shits.

They ($$$$ people) didn't like "weird," thought it was juvenile, basically made him quit. Isn't that just like Democrats, always cutting off their nose to spite their face. It's no wonder we lose so G-D always.

Which is why Dems need to fire the consultants and copy the stuff that works.

Would vote for him in a primary regardless of who else was running save possibly AOC.

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We need heavy things, medicine, food, and clean water. And maybe some heavy things affixed to rotating platforms on trucks. And we need discipline and organization and direct experience physically serving the people. And more heavy things. Lots more.

Calma

Look I don’t care for Newsom but he’s doing more than social posting, he got behind redirecting and has been pushing back against Trump’s occupation of LA. Unfortunately Walz has been MIA since the shootings in his state. Yes Pritzker would be better but he’s got to drive policy wins too

Go read the OP to which you are replying. It features Paul F. Tompkins, talking about a JB Pritzker quote about a law he signed *this week* that expands protections for LGBTQ+ people in Illinois. WTF else do you mean by “policy wins”??

I’m aware of that but that stops at the bounds of Illinois, the redistricting thing is the most important thing any Dem governor can do right now because unless Dems win the House in 26, our grandkids are going to be stuck genuflecting to Baron Trump.

I was responding specifically to your comment about “driving policy wins,” and your reply is that his policy wins are only in the state where he’s the governor. Okay, cool. So, WTF *do* you mean by policy wins??

Great new! JB is also working on redistricting Illinois! At those point, it’s a personal choice to root for the guy that rubs elbows with Nazis and does photo ops destroying unhoused ppl’s stuff

We can only eek out one more Dem seat and we don't need a ballot initiative to make it happen.

Indeed, Illinois is already solidly gerrymandered, 14-3. And also indeed, Newsom doesn’t have the authority to change California’s districts (currently 43-9) unless it passes a referendum of the entire state electorate.

“Pushing back” by having the DA file a case that the Supreme Court will use to give Donald Trump the right to impose martial law wherever whenever. How oh so very effective.

I’m a democratic socialist. I care about the downtrodden, LGBTQ and their rights. I care about hungry children. I care about everything Democratic candidates don’t want to talk about because it turns off their swing voters. I’m tired of democratic candidates pandering to conservative swing voters

Weird reference but I think the "neurodegenerative" condition caused by "abnormal folding" is the abnormal folding in on itself of fundamental objective facts, logic, and truth such as our current situation with sarcasm, satire, seriousness, etc - resulting in a literal cognitive implosion

Which I mention because though I am not a microbillionairescienbiotoligist, since 2020 I've spent too much time reading things experts should've explained but couldn't or didn't and have tentatively concluded most pandemics are the result of mass panic caused by stupid, wrong, profitable, "science"

I don't think neuro diseases exist, including many mental health issues which are supposedly intrinsic That is false. Those profitably attributed issues are usually the result of the same as always: poverty, terrible hygiene (h2o), and ⌀ govt services because what was more important was that we

afforded scientists politicians religious "charities" "thinktanks" bankers investors corp "executives" etc to rob the country and world blind while systematically dismantling govt services that stolen money should have funded - while simultaneously buying media outlets to produce nonstop propaganda,

to convince people: "work will make them free" The US in my lifetime has become a financial human rights crises on the scale of war crimes, for some places. If you know anything about psychology, they say mental abuse causes worse outcomes than physical. Do with that information what you will.

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This song and video (and the previous and next songs) are not irrelevantly included in this thread, btw [Thank you for holding. Our automated systems are currently automating automatons automated automations. Your call will be answered at some point, probably] music.youtube.com/watch?v=i5_a...

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dang totally missed a perfect chance to outclass that nonsensical buffalo x 7 "grammatically correct" sentence which has been shitposted an uncountable number of times yet is clearly invalid but i forgot to say automatically, and automagically, and algorithmagicaticaly or something goodnight

*hmms in dystopian lawless rural shithole america* believe me if you think this is unhinged yaint seen nothin this is what I can't prove. the things I can do not belong on social media, at least for now & we are all guilty of hyperbole but I keep it minimal jsyk *gestures at previous statements*

I say we let Newsom run the foil to MAGA for a few more months and really piss them off. Then we just say we need someone more reasonable, who can reach across the aisle, and let Pritzger win the primary. Newsom can run the heel a little longer and piss off the cheeto and his cronies.

Gotta win first before you can govern. Pritzker is great. Mamdami is great. Collier is great. AOC is great. Gavin is a douche but he’s doing something to cut through the fatalistic apathy. We need all hands on deck against these fuckers right now.

Newsom can't win because we are not voting for him, and if you're planning to support him in the primaries then you need to consider what you will lose.

People trying to have Gavin fucking Newsom as the presidential hopeful to clean up Trump's mess is, in fact, adding to the fatalistic apathy actually for most people with brains.

Who would get you excited to support to oppose Trump?

i would vote for @govpritzker.illinois.gov in a heartbeat if he ever acknowledged the existence of azumanga daioh

I heard Gavin Newsom was a Chobits fan

please do not besmirch the good name of clamp with your lies

Mike Walz or JB Pritzker just off the top of my head. Both counter Trumps insane bullshit in a far more funny and charming way than Newsom and prove to be incredibly popular candidates that could clean up a decent chunk of the damage Trump has done (so far).

"this sandwich has shit in it" "what's your alternative proposition for dinner?"

We’re not eating dinner yet, we’re fighting fascists and we need to support each other against them. The shit sandwich is still useful for throwing at them. We can debate on issues and merit of ideas once we oust those who don’t believe in democracy.

Wow, that was a really terrible analogy.

I dunno, i thought throwing a shit sandwich was funny and topical

Thank you! When I see people going all "yas queen / brat newsome" over THIS??? guy I start to actually lose all hope

Gavin has similar favorability ratings as the couch fucker He hired a good social media manager, he himself sucks and can fuck off

He's. Not. Doing. Anything. I'm doing more to stop Trump than Gavin.

Newsom's hands don't post Trump style tweets - his interns do. But his hands do real literal violence to the unhoused in LA. I don't need those hands on my deck. If the unhoused and trans people are sacrifices you're willing to make, you're just a different kind of fascist.

I’m glad Newsom is trying to gerrymander CA to counter what Abbot’s doing in Texas, but that doesn’t mean I’d vote for him to be the Dem nominee. I don’t like Newsom. I like the fight he’s currently bringing against Republican cheating. I can praise a specific action he takes without praising him.

Thank you for the nuanced take. This is the point I’m trying to get across.

Who would you like to see as a candidate?

Maybe read the OP? Because this whole discussion is happening in a context where we’re talking about how Gov. Pritzker of Illinois would make a great President.

I want this person to answer. I’ve been getting a lot of accounts only posting Newsom hate, generally only posting anti dem politics with no anti Trump posts. It’s starting to feel like the Russian trolls have moved over here to sow discord. Either that or we learned nothing since 2024.

Or maybe people just genuinely do not like Newsom and are rightfully criticizing him, but also don't feel the need to constantly post anti-Trump stuff because there's no point in criticizing him when everyone already hates him and knows he's awful. But yeah, you're right – must be Russian bots 🙄

You’re literally spamming the exact same question, which has already been answered in the very first post in this thread, and you’re worried that *other* people sound like bots? Touch grass, Carlo.

You’re right, I’m signing off.

I can tell you are a real person because you like Derry Girls

Trump supporters largely aren't here, so there's no point in posting about Trump. Frustratingly ignorant liberals are here, though, and they're loudly advocating throwing the marginalized under the bus under the insane belief that it'll win them the next election when it just lost them one.

We're in your walls, American

Yes, that's right - I'm a Russian because I hate the guy who tried to stake his dibs on the presidency by doing violent harm to the unhoused. Also, as the much kinder other reply already pointed out to you PRITZKER!! THE GUY WHO THE THREAD IS ABOUT????? What a fucking useless idiot you are! christ

Yo sound like a bit of a contrarian trap. A Trojan horse if you would.

Yeah, famous comedian Paul F. Tompkins has probably been playing an incredibly long con to get Republicans elected, that's been the real objective of his decades-long career

Priztker hasn’t even gone on a single right-wing podcast and let them set the framing and completely agreed with them!

To the best of my knowledge, Pritzker has also not gleefully destroyed a homeless camp and thrown away people's personal belongings and documents. That was a low bar and yet Newsom managed to slither under it.

To add to this, many "middle-class" people become homeless in the blink of an eye due to crises (oft medical) and have birth certs, passports, urns w/loved ones ashes, bedding, eyeglasses, meds, etc, etc seized and trashed. It's not just rusty junk birdcages in a shopping cart that tv shows depict.

Paul, these burns could be considered capital punishment, which Gavin would approve of

what bothers me the most is that this line, seemingly obvious in its ridiculousness, is one I've encountered many times, each time repeated unironically

Ok. Promote him then. What the fuck are we doing here

Me personally I am trying to get people to see that Newsom is not a good candidate

good candidate for what? he isn't running for anything. we are so far from the 2026 election, let alone 2028... and on top of that for all the reasons you have articulated there is no way he is going to end up being the 2028 candidate

The only position Newsom deserves to be nominated for is one directly under a French hair cutting machine.

"isn't running for anything" how in the shit are you this obtuse

He is very clearly angling for the next election. You may be confident he won't be but Newsom clearly isn't.

There is seemingly a not insignificant number of people who disagree with you

hi Paul! Huge fan. Understood, I guess I'm asking you to give others some grace. If people are feeling hopeful and that is leading them to be overly eager and frankly annoying... there is going to be a whole primary process and that is if we even still have a democracy. Eye on the ball and all that

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I'm not allowed to think that gender segregated spaces should be done away with?

What? I’m not allowed to mask my evil beliefs behind the veneer of “legitimate concern” and act like it’s cool to support an openly evil politician because I’m stupid or evil and most likely a combination of both???? Have a heart!

WEIRD HOW IT ALWAYS HAPPENS, huh.

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See, that's not the takeaway here. The takeaway is that giving Newsom a higher profile actively harms trans rights based on his record, so you're not really an ally if you're supporting the man.

how could Newsom possibly have a higher profile? he is a billionaire governor of the 4th largest economy in the world who rubs shoulders with movie stars and politically powerful people constantly. everyone in this country knows who Newsom is and a lot of us would never vote for him in a primary

If everyone isnt equal none of us are equal. They just aren't coming for you yet

what does that even mean? who are you talking about? Newsom is one of several governors fighting back against the fascist take over of our country. I agree everyone needs to be protected and that is why I want to stop Trump.

Sorry I didn't realize you struggled reading comprehension. Luckily, I dont believe that makes you less deserving of equal rights.

He’s siding with the fascists about trans people and he treats homeless Californians like shit. He is not a hero

Is he "fighting back against the fascist take over", or is he "desperately seeking seeking to maintain/increase his power and wealth"?

I don't see how him picking a fight with Trump in social media and leading the charge in CA to counter-redistrict Texas makes him wealthier. As to his power - it is derived from the state of California as he is the governor and I desperately want all blue governors to maintain / increase their power

How is he fighting the fascists? By going on their podcasts?

You can only have this opinion by not being informed. Gavin Newsom has been cozying up to fascists all year and personally terrorizing homeless people with a big smile on his plastic face.

Where? He sent in his own forces to beat up protesters and journalists. He's ripping people's livelihood's apart with a smile on his face. He's goes on podcasts with the fucking fascists and agrees with them.

Where did you see that Newsome gave orders that protestors and journalists were to be beaten? You are conflating systemic inertia with governance. If the state of California declares that the Trump admin is acting tyrannically and takes up arms against the federal gov protestors still won't be

allowed to block major roads and disrupt cities. The LAPD is tasked with keeping order in the streets and they are doing that with the same callous disregard for people they encounter the way they always do. that isn't a reflection of Newsom being pro Trump that is the LAPD being assholes. Now as

One thing I have realized- assholes are assholes regardless of ideology. This guy is just our version of them. More into it as a team sport or belief system* than as reality *He is one person being nice to him away from joining a cult

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Newsom doesn't believe in protecting everyone, he's a bigot

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this doesn't mean anything to me idk why you're responding with this to everyone

It's so precious when these people use the word "ally" next to Newsom's name, like ally to whom?

he agrees with Newsom so it's not bigotry. his "everyone" is a limited group that isn't everyone

I support the governor of California rallying support for efforts to counter the redistricting going on in Texas. I don't think Newsom is remotely fit to be POTUS for various reasons including but not limited to his stans on Trans rights I'm focused on today while we still have the ability to fight

why do we always have to be the ones extending grace to bigots?

I don't think it's good when people are eager about a guy who is on camera throwing people's possessions in the garbage because the state he runs is better at that than providing housing. Or any of the ghoulish anti-trans stuff he's said. Eager about this guy? A sign that you are a bad person.

Sorry but in my experience this is a kicking the can down the road comment. When it comes time for the primary, the goalposts will be moved to “in any other year, we can vote for who we want but this year, we have to vote for (lesser evil).” Bigotry IS fascism. Newsom should be called out. NOW.

"Love your comedy! But why do you have to have a perspective?"

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ok so why aren't you uniting with trans people then?

I don't know what "uniting with trans people" means in this context. I personally don't support Newsom for POTUS if that helps? bsky.app/profile/kern...

the ppl saying they dont want Newsom to run are not the ones who started this. Literally it’s Newsom supporters* who have been flooding bluesky to tell us we should line up to support him go chastise those people. *or possibly paid bots

If you believe that you can't resist Trump, support trans rights, help the unsheltered, and not support an oily man with no real interest in anything but his own advancement, all at the same time, then you don't understand democracy, and probably find it hard to walk and chew gum at the same time.

I think it is WAY too early to be focusing on the 2028 election and we have far more immediate and existential concerns. I guess we can agree to disagree

If the opposition are already thinking about it then it is never too early.

“Stop talking about this thing I don’t want to talk about! Now excuse me while I hop around this thread quote-posting myself telling everyone to stop talking about this.”

Trans rights being erased is an immediate and existential concern.

Then Newsom should stop trying to edge ahead for the 2028 election

We need to shout down the neolibs who are boosting people like Newsom who is absolutely 1000% thinking about 2028 and is being wagged at us by corporate media so gatekeeping Dem primaries countrywide away from these ghouls is the energy right now.

Indeed, the oily snake man is proving the strongest defence against them stealing the 2026 election. That’s worth not shaming him back into the wine cellar just yet.

How the hell do you fight fascism by supporting a fascist?

And people who actually want to resist fascism instead of giving us fascism lite are telling you Gavin is a nonstarter

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A non-starter for what he unquestionably wants and is trying to set himself up for. I'm not sure why you don't seem to know this, but it makes you seem ill-informed at best and disingenuous at worst.

Any reason to justify bigotry is a shitty justification. It's not that hard to better yourself as a human being. Gavin. Ain't. It.

Right

An extremely normal perspective communicated in a straightforward way

"Let people be hopeful" about a very problematic politician says more about the "hopeful" people than the people opposing them.

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if ppl are feeling *hopeful* at the possibility of Newsom running for president on the dem ticket, then we’re thoroughly cooked.

no one said that. I don't know where you got that from. people are feeling hopeful that a dem governor is effectively pushing back against the efforts to engineer a 2027 GOP majority in congress

the thread was Paul discussing the possibility of Newsom running in 2028 since a lot of people are talking about it recently. So when you said people are feeling hopefully, naturally i read that as “hopeful he will run for president”. Next time try telling ppl when you’re changing the subject.

The thread was questioning why people would talk about Newsom since pritzker is rolling out the lgbtq+ hotline. To which I replied questioning the logic behind starting the 2028 cycle so early. People didn't chimed in to tell me that pro Newsom people were pushing his candidacy and it spiraled

Even in your retelling, the thread is still about people supporting Newsom for a 2028 run. At best, what you said was ambiguous.

This is literally part of the primary process you dink

be quiet

Then maybe start by reciprocating by showing some grace towards Newsom’s critics? This cuts both ways right? Like it wouldn’t be cool for a hypothetical person to demand that people who criticize Newsom’s bigotry commit to voting for him in the general when the primary hasn’t begun, right?

I'm a Newsom critic. When I posted that I wasn't aware of the bot / astroturf campaign that apparently is swamping some people's accounts boosting Newsom. My concern is with the very idea of feeding into discussions of 2028 when we have an autogolpe happening in real time Cheers

So your “eye on the ball” is embracing far right violence against vulnerable groups for 3 years or so on the promise that someone could win the primary who didn’t do that. Great morals, that you have

Nope what I meant was focusing on the autogolpe that is going on right now. Cheers!

I see, so you’re too cowardly to own up to your beliefs as well

my beliefs are that Newsom is a prick and would make a terrible POTUS. I also believe that the way things are going we are unlikely to have valid elections in 2028 so I'd rather people focus on things happening right now since the second US civil war is on the cusp of starting

One example of a thing happening right now is the Democratic governor of the largest state in the country is openly courting fascists by throwing vulnerable people to the wolves, and he’s doing it to promote himself as a 2028 candidate

Why are marginalized people disposable?

I didn't claim they were. Newsom is terrible on trans rights and the unhoused. Pritzker has treated unhoused people the same and he is pro Israel which isn't a great look. None of these are perfect presidential candidates and I don't think continuing a premature conversation makes sense

‘cause suckers will all tell you to keep watching for the ball / But we know better than that / Keep your eye on the bat -Palehound

I don't think you are supposed to keep your eye on the bat when you are trying to hit a baseball. I'm pretty sure that isn't how that works. Granted I was never any good at baseball so maybe there is something clever in that turn of phrase.

Gavin Newsom's goddaughter is trans, he attended her wedding, and now he has the AUDACITY to pretend he doesn't understand the proven science behind trans people, and humans in general, in sports to gain points with bigots and fascists. He's garbage.

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No one’s even talking about an election

Good! Since you support Gavin Newsom and we all think he should eat shit and die, it's great news that you don't want to focus on 2028. Gives us a real leg up!

I think Newsom is prick and would be a terrible POTUS. so right back at you?

SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING THEN?

Gottim!!!

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Yeah, and fuck'em. There's so much going on right now. Anyone who's playing fantasy election right now is a joke. They're the kind of people who view politics as entertainment. They will not show up when it matters, so who cares? The National Guard occupied LA. Now they're in DC. Chicago's next.

I think you are saying what they’re saying— did you mean to say fuck *me*? It’s fine if you did, I just want to make sure you reached your intended target

I think you're responding to all of the posts about Newsom being a good (or bad) candidate, because it's become an unavoidable topic, especially from people pushing Newsom. Fuck the people (or bots) who won't shut up about it.

I guess by extension that could mean you a little bit - and me, I posted a couple long threads about it. I don't really think we're the problem, though. Idk if it's just weird libs or if there's astroturfing going on, but something's determined to make "should gavin be president" a big topic.

You've probably read enough from me, but this thread is what I'm trying to say.

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Thank you for your service! Newsom is doing some good stuff right now, and I'll take it, but hell no, he shouldn't be the next president.

Thank you . (for the bare minimum level of basic Humanity... I'm certain that you are far more moral than that, but unfortunately we do live in a time and place where the bare minimum is a lot for the Trans community to get from people.)

Out of curiosity, have you got thoughts on the governor race next year? Can I interest you in a Katie Porter?