i really think jd vance is the fakest politician i've seen in my lifetime. there is nothing sincere about him.
i really think jd vance is the fakest politician i've seen in my lifetime. there is nothing sincere about him.
Great eye makeup though.
He's a perfect stereotype of american politicians or honestly (from european perspective) american culture as a whole. A complete facade of a personality, always ensures his own benefit at every opportunity, takes everything as granted and at its face value. He's like a caricature from an anime.
Gee, thanks for your nuanced and thoughtful evaluation of me and my fellow Americans.
Actually, there is something really weird about him (from an American). There is something glassy and rigid in his face, as if he hides real rage. And he’s so awkward in public. In his book he claims his grandma talked him out of being gay, so I always wonder if he’s a self loathing closet case.
I hate to admit it but I think you’re correct about our American culture. If our choices express our culture I believe we are a vacuum. There’s much that contributes to it including the unresolved Civil War culture in the South. Seems kinda hopeless but I’m not surrendering. For 249 years, it worked
The Civil War culture is by no means limited to the South. Not by a long shot.
Wasn’t even threatened by Yujiro Hanma in “Baki” because he’s just nothing. Musk took his place.
You're not wrong. 1 in 6 peoole in the US is a narcissist because our society rewards the behavior.
research.uga.edu/news/not-so-...
a lot has happened since 2015.
From 1 in 100 to 1 in 6 in 10 yrs?????
not even defending 1 in 6. just not going to put much weight on a study that ignores the last 10 years...which have been pretty friggin' pivotal. 😅
It's still only 1-2%.
they’re famously self-aware, I hear 😏
Narcissism is rarely formally diagnosed because narcissists don't seek treatment. They believe they are the victims, not the problem. They don't seek treatment because they don't think there's anything wrong with them, just everyone else. Our screens society rewards the behavior more than ever.
Genuinely ty for bringing insight & facts, unlike the troll above. My comments stemmed from being tired of how much, in this age of BS inundation from the right, many ppl my politics would otherwise align w/ post misinfo for the snark (also grew up in an adhd fam where looking it up is law lol)
Current, not screens.
honestly "screens" works, too.
Exactly! I was married to a narcissist. I went to a psychologist for therapy, mainly due to my marriage & pregnant w/ our daughter at the time. My husband came twice to my sessions at my request & psychologist's recommendation. He refused to go back b/c she was pregnant & not married.
You should read this. Dr. Durvasula is an expert on narcissists. It's very informative. And helpful. And she has a YouTube channel.
www.psychiatry.org/news-room/ap...
NPD is a misleading diagnosis and most psychologists want the DSM amended because this only addresses malignant narcissism and there are many different types of narcissism. And narcissists don't seek treatment so it's rarely formally diagnosed. Which you wouldn't know outside the field.
Oh how I do know the latter - I'll be recommending the book you shared earlier with a loved one also dealing w/ a narcissist, thanks
Yes. That's what happens when we're all in a forced abusive relationship with a malignant narcissist. My degrees are in psychology and the data comes from narcissism expert Dr. Ramani Durvasula. There are different types of narcissists. Most people are only familiar with malignant narcissists.
Incels are vulnerable narcissists and the GOP and the Christofascists have created an entire generation of vulnerable narcissists. Boys who feel entitled to everything and when they don't get it they blame everyone else for their failures and lack of success. Most CEOs are narcissists.
Old article and specifically only mentions NPD which is a highly problematic diagnosis because it only accounts for malignant narcissism and it doesn't account for the lack of diagnosis b/c narcissists don't seek treatment and there are many different types of narcissists.
Labeling 1/3 of everyone narcissists isn't helpful either. Every human has a balance of narcissism and self-loathing in them, and you can find narcissistic traits in nearly everyone if you look hard enough (ask leading questions in a survey). NPD is important bc it indicates harm.
1 in 6 people isn't a third of anything. Your math isn't mathing. And I'm quoting experts in the field, I'm not making anything up. And my degrees are in psychology. NPD is harmful but also rare. The vast majority of narcissists are not malignant narcissists. The diagnosis is misleading.
And NPD is rarely diagnosed formally because narcissists don't seek treatment. They think everyone else is the problem, not themselves. Narcissism is a maladaptive coping mechanism rooted in deep-seated insecurities. Left unchecked it becomes a serious personality disorder. And it has many forms.
You’re wrong. Anime characters have more depth & nuance. He’s also the exact opposite of what American culture is. American culture is Bruce Springsteen & Willie Nelson, open roads & muscle cars, foods & people from all over the world. Not weak men afraid of all that projecting strength by bullying.
He does have that cartoon villain thing going for him.
He’s set a precedent for new cartoon villains. “Ah, all the different programs that helped my family and I survive when we were at our lowest…..dismantle them now to appease my billionaire masters”
This👆👆👆👆Exactly, this!
Then you haven’t seen Pierre Poilievre, Canada’s discount JD Vance leader of the Cons
I have, and though as an American I am loath to judge another country’s politicians, he exudes waves of insincerity.
His entire career has been to be a fake DEI "hillbilly" He went to Ohio State on the GI Bill as a 30 year old, made friends with nerdy 20 year old undergrads trying to get into law school and learned from them how to play the DEI card.
He is Ohio personified
He’s managed to rub everyone the wrong way here in the Cotswolds in the UK Locals ended up paying to have that famous meme on a billboard being driven around places he was seen. He’s a Thiel stooge and will do whatever he needs to get in power. m.youtube.com/shorts/tqCsw...
Not even his eyeliner?
I think he was generated by AI 🙋♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
His fealty to his tech bro billionaire douchebag grifter benefactors seems sincere.
Fakest hillbilly too.
literally a bad actor.
JD Vance is made of 100 percent synthetic material, with a coating of smarm to protect from sincerity.
his evil
Look up Byron Donalds
And so much odious.
That's because he's not a real human, he's a puppet.
That donut shop stunt pretty much blasted it out in technicolor
Peter Thiel will be very sad to hear this if Peter Thiel had feelings.
He has the charisma of a yam. 🍠
Yam is way too charismatic compared to JD. Charisma of a doorknob may be?
My question is, will he be able to get away with as much shit as trump does?
He does not have the it factor to keep the maga following once Trump is gone. And the remaining band of evil does not either. The coalition crumbles
Except if things go his way, he’ll become president without ever being elected. Once he’s in the office that “coalition” is no longer necessary.
He doesn’t have the juice to keep the House and Senate gop in formation. I’d expect to see a few go off script, maga threats drop off. Does Fox jump ship?
He is sincerely an asshole.
Miles and miles out of his depth. He was planted in their by Elon Musk.
i thought it was Peter Thiel
I stand corrected. Thiel was the key influence but supported by Musk & others.
Fake is just the veneer. Behind it? Evil Goo.
Gormless to the core.
He’s a bag of slime.
No
He’s sincerely creepy.
He just oozes smarmy cynicism while smirking like the cat that caught the canary. There are very few people I loathe more but Judge ACB is on his same tier.
Unless he eyes a sofa.
That doughnut shop video really drove this home for me
He gives off the vibes of someone who has spent his entire life studying natural human interactions and took away nothing. Just pure anti-charisma.
His four different names is totally on-brand.
Absolutely correct FAKE emotions !
At least George Santos actually went to prison for his beliefs.
is this a John Bois post?
He’s a psychopath who never really learned how to pretend to be human. It’s like he tried 30% and called it a day.
he is so cringe
He’s a Potemkin Village…all by himself.
But have you asked his couch?
He took the crown from Ted Cruz.
Kamala gave him a run for his money tho
I would have to put Mike Johnson right up there.
He’s not even a legitimate couch-fucker. So what even IS HE?
Like if you asked AI to create a GOP leader who has molded his persona solely on talking points and pandering to a specific ideology. Zero authenticity.
What about his love for couches
Trump is cultural heroin. Now if you’ll excuse him, JD gotta tie one on
His boss became president with no political experience, and is physically incapable of telling the truth But he's def up there
T-Pedo, aka John Barron is the most fake.
He is bought and paid for by Peter Thiel. Sincerely.
Thiel was smitten by JD's animatronic, robotic, lunking manner. Perfect simulacrum to play with as if he were a Silicon Valley test toy to be released into the wild. Thiel is enjoying his golem, I'm sure.
Only Thiel would think Vance would be an appealing politician.
Like Blake Masters.
Exactly this - he has been installed into the VP position- and he is seriously indebted to Thiel & his cronies for his political career who have bankrolled the whole thing. Vance was chosen because he vapid, pliable and utterly amoral. Gilead is not far away.
Remember he is employees by Peter Thiel
I’m pretty sure he just sloughed off of Ted Cruz at some point. Same creature.
I know we could hang out Derek 👊🏼
He raised the water level of the river next to my apartment for better fishing photos so I’ll agree on this one
paul ryan
He's sincere about the white supremacy.
Tough competition between him and Stephen Miller.
JD Vance is a Peter-Thiel-Puppet™️ What's worse is Thiel's Palintir is going to get many of you killed. And you don't know the half of what his company is capable of. Thiel is already profiting from the genocide in Gaza. People are dying as a result.
He says the usual noxious, bizarre, ridiculous things but doesn't even seem sincerely nutty enough to believe them. It's why he won't become the leaders of the Nazis like he wants. He's fine with massive evil but it's hard to fake the degree of madness needed. All he can do is fake, even nuttiness.
Thing is, there’s a group of MOTUs who, even if they know Vance doesn’t have the juice, will, if they think he’s the most viable thing they got going right now, flood us with attestations about how absolutely juicy he really is.
So he's merely a stepping stone. They await the true madman. Even Trump is not quite what they want.
Newsom is auditioning
Seems so!!!
Oh, for sure but people seem to forget the Nazis actually DO purity tests. The left doesn't. Purity is not their value, they just don't trust easily and believe their goals require one to be stalwart. But purity IS a value for the Nazis. Their main value.
Just give me a chance to get elected, you may think J.D was honst abe!
Well he is sincerely into couches and he is a big fan of working for the oligarchy
If meta AI was a politician
He's sincere about being a piece of shit.
Thinly-veiled Thiel skin
We’ve got a similarly fake one in 🇨🇦, Pierre PoiLIEvre
Why does he look like he has yet to perfect smoky eye
He's annoying AF. He has zero charisma, and Leaders/Politicians need a modicum of charisma!
Or substantive. A flapping, empty suit.
He is a charisma black hole
He’ll go whatever way the wind blows,
This might make it possible to break the hold on ppl that Trump has, once JD is ready to potentially assume the office.
Every now and then, I think about the VP debate where he was all, "Oh golly, gee, Republicans seem to have lost the trust of women with regard to abortion and we need to earn it back." 🙄
Not a thing.
Agreed. I truly believe Vance has been planted & positioned, solely in waiting, for when Trump is deemed unfit or dies. Vance will be far, far worse too. And that arrogancy, cackling laugh, and weak ass wannabe swag... 🤢🤮 Vance actually terrifies me to the core! #nokings
Yup. I can smell a two-faced person before they even walk in the room.
🎯🎯🎯
What enjoy Lindsey Graham
Odd that a guy from suburban Ohio, who pretended to be from Appalachia to sell some books, isn't sincere.
He is a hillbilly effigy.
JD JUST VANCE DANCE has plenty of moves though. He can duck and weave like nobody.
There’s that line in Into the Woods about being raised to be charming not sincere, but Vance is neither.
Just another Ohio wanna be dick tater
The eyeliner really doesn't help either.
The name 'JD MAYBELLINE' is just perfect !
Perfect 👌
He’s George Santos who didn’t get caught and got stupidly lucky
You don't go from calling Trump America's Hitler to becoming his VP without being a giant fraud.
Correct
He gives Ron DeSantis a run for his money in disingenuous-ness…
Starting with the fact that “JD Vance” isn’t even his real name
This is a golden age for fake politicians too. Newsom - Vance, at least half of Trump's own staff. Just WILD stuff.
If he can't even fake sincerity at this level of the game he should give up.
He lies so much but is still very bad at it.
And that is what makes him dangerous. He isn’t perceived as the threat he is.
His eyeliner is real
💯 The reason I agree w/ you is becuz JD Vance is actually a smart person. There is no way that he has pivoted a full 180 degrees from his previous public position re: Trump and become a true believer. There are true believers in Trumps orbit (Miller, Vought) but JD isn’t one. He just craves power.
His couch agrees.
Fake background too.
At least fucking couches makes JD relatable.
That is a very high bar… I mean donald trump is the president.
Riding trump’s coattails—which are enormous
I still remember him ordering those donuts.
That is unfair, you don’t have to be sincere about only positive things. Are you looking hard enough?
JD Vance suddenly becoming Christian right when he started thinking of running for office was just a weird coincidence, I'm sure
He has one really cool party trick, if he turns sideways, he disappears.
He's a manufactured product. That's the key thing to know. He's like an untalented hack of an actor playing a part he is totally unsuited for.
I had the displeasure of listening to parts of his book when my wife had it in a book club, and it was transparently exaggerated and fake every time I heard it. One of these days someone is going to put time into fact checking that steaming pile and what's left won't be enough to fill a 3x5.
💯
He is VOID of charisma.
He sincerely is an apologist of the "lost cause", you can't take that away from him
Leagues beyond John Edwards!
Anyone who changes their name that many times is a fake. Hiding from the past.
I'm pretty sure his adoration of couches is
Including his name.
His made in China tie is.
Harboring so many complexes within.
May I present Pierre Pollievre?
As the German saying goes, he has Backpfeifengesicht, a punchable face.
His arrogance was so obvious during the debates. Just oozing with smarm. 🤮
I hope he becomes the heir apparent because he's not a relatable effective politician.
except maybe his animus of poor and especially people of color
Sincerely fake ...
Nixon, Cruz, and Vance
And that wouldn't be the worst thing if he was at least intelligent, or considerate, or dignified, or compassionate, or kind, or honest, or ethical, or honorable, or respectful, or perceptive, or accountable, or dependable, or - well you get the idea...
Faker than Gavin Newsom?
Gavin believes in something, even if it's just his own sense of superiority, JD doesn't even have that
Yup. JD's got that insecure vibe all the way to 11.
Vance is a pimple on the ass of Ohio
Absolutely.👍🏽. And that’s including George Santos!🎯 I agree with you 1200, 1300, 1400, 1,500%! 📌
because he's peter thiel's puppet
He has virtually no charm or charisma.A fake,opportunistic politician needs at least one of these qualities to be remotely palatable.
Touché.
Imagine eclipsing fake haired fake tan fake fake height fake weight fake news fake university fake populist Trump in the insincerity department.
And now imagine that person with the power of the office of president of the United States. Shudder……
He’s a weird couch humper.
I feel this way about all MAGA NAZI MORONS
He's the US Pierre Pollievre.
I believe Poilievre to be even less sincere, if that is possible.
He’s sincerely lathering at the mouth for his tákèovèr
A creation of Silicon Valley.
I'm of the personal opinion that he's just the worst and pretending to be sincere that's gotten all the way into the national spotlight. Really just road in on several coattails.
There is Mike Johnson.
Close second.
By a whisker!
he is incredibly arrogant and condescending....listen to his interviews....he must start every sentence w the interviews name...drives me nuts...when Kristen Welker inverviewed him he must have said "Kristen" about 100 times followed by a tone which screams "there there little woman"
Huh?? Who's jd Vance??? Is that that guy the Furniture Police are always gettin' calls on abt his attack-a-couch ass?? What a jerk! And he's always getting driven around by some weird carbunkle called Heil, Thail,Tail, Theil.!
Well, that's because J.D. Vance is maybe his third or fourth name, and he's a creation of and puppet for Peter Theil (Palantir). Who, coincidentally, is BFFs with the new head of the CDC.
jd vance looks like he doesn't believe himself
There is one thing that’s sincere: grievance. It drips from so much of what he says and does. The persona might be fake, but the curdled mix of bitterness and victimhood can be clocked from a mile away.
Good catch. Deep down, he probably feels that the govt is somehow to blame for his shitty upbringing.
The whiny bitchiness of his every utterance seems like it would make even MAGA disgusted.
💯
Remember when he tried to make a show of force saying Kamala’s plane would be his one day, and the reporters/aides were just confused? Like why are you here? Then he walked away. It was the most cringe thing I’ve ever seen
at least until he tried to order donuts
Whatever makes sense.
I’d forgotten about that. He’s so WEIRD. He makes everyone in his vicinity uncomfortable
They should never have stopped saying they are weird during the election.
When I heard he grew up in the suburbs, it made me think that his real drive to write Hilbilly Elegy came from his resentment that he wasn't born rich. Like, because he wasn't rich, he might as well have been as poor as his Appalachian relatives. A long sulk.
The movie really had to put in the work to humanize JD and not follow the theme of the book that he hates the idea of being poor and hates his roots.
He’s so deeply suburban Midwestern.
Fair reporting please! It was the sofa that faked it?
His claim to fame 'Hillbilly Elegy' rings so false I couldn't finish it. Multiple sequences just seemed, added, from nothing
His eye shadow is real.
JDV mentioned that Trump’s militant policies in Washington DC are the reason the murder rate has fallen by 35%.
This is precisely correct. The man is tinned concentration of pure smarm.
And a priss.
Paid to lie.
I think people on both sides of the aisle agree. @jdvancevpotus.bsky.social doesn’t have a single thought of his own.
Ooooo I didn’t know you are Canadian.
Politics is full of phonies, but what separates JD is that he lacks the charisma or guile to at least add a veneer of reality to it. Politics is sales and JD couldn't sell a used Buick for $2k less than sticker.
Damn. That’s pretty perfect.
You also described Cruz and DeSantis.
you're telling be the guy who ordered donuts by saying “whatever makes sense,” isn't relatable? isn't brimming with all the character and intrigue of a room-temperature bowl of tap water?
Trump is right there
Not one thing.
he changed his name at least twice!?
He is sincerely awful.
No. Yes, he is fake. But not the most fake.
I've worked in the private sector for nearly 50 years & have worked with many like him although none have been as egregious an example as him. He's a climber. All he cares about is getting to the top of the shit heap. He believes in nothing. He will fuck over anyone. He will eventually sel-destruct.
Well, it seems he has a sincere affection for being on vacation.
You think that's bad? Check out Pierre Pollievre in Canada
He’s like if Jabba the Hutt had an outlet and put guards there he’d be one
Yes, yes, yes... Ron DeSantis is a close second.
Faker than George Santos?
He really fucked a couch
He’s inauthentic. A Bollywood Hillbilly.
🍩
He is sincerely a careerist
You mean the fakest human. A lizard.
You just hurt Ted Cruz' feelings.
Dood...
I came here to say Ted Cruz! 😂
Hey, Ted Cruz sincerely likes porn and Cancun.
Also eating his own boogers. Can’t believe that’s out of public memory.
And people insulting his wife!
You didn't mention his podcast? His weekly podcast?
And he loves Whole Foods
Only his love for couches
Idk, I bet he’s pretty sincere when he’s “searching for change between the cushions”.
Marco Rubio wants a word…
He's a debate bro who learned the only thing that matters is winning.
There have been too many fake politicians in the US. I can't even tell who's been the fakest.
It’s creepy
He’s torched his bridges with his “home state” (cough) of Ohio.
He’s sincerely repellant.
100% agree. He will say anything, change into anyone to get power. I wonder if anyone knows who the real Vance is.
He’s like flat Stanley
Agreed. He can’t even stay true to his own name.
Exactly why people have such a dislike of that pork chop. He’d never, ever win on his own. Thing is, The Felon voters don’t seem to have good character assessment skills, clearly, but Vacay Vance still seems to be disliked among all. So, that’s telling.
I mean Lindsey Graham exists, but it's hard to tell the lying from the drinking anymore.
He’s dreadful. He’s the husband at the country club that all the other wives would put their hands over their drinks when he walked through the dining room bragging about his fake handicap. Everything about him is phony, rehearsed and manufactured by Peter Thiel as if in a lab
Not sure if he’s the fakest BUT he’s right up there with Speaker Mike Johnson.
he did, as I recall, state himself to be scots-irish in hillbilly elegy, when independent research of his family tree revealed his ancestry to be absent of either
That's because he is 100% weasel.
perfection
At least the criminal knows who he is. This one's just lost.
He's an authentic asshat so there's that
He's been doing an awful lot lately I think he's preparing to take over chumps job
And he goes around looking like an unmade bed 🤡
Well, he does come by his complete insincerity honestly.
Vivek Ramaswamy is equally fake.
Haven’t heard anything about Ramaswamy in a while.
He’s running for Ohio Governor.
And secured the nomination without a convention or primary. Because Daddy told the Ohio GOP what to do.
There’s going to be a primary.
Ohio: We'll Believe Anything
Unfortunately we have bsky.app/profile/davi...
mmmmm. i don’t think so. he’s just the worst at covering for it. (aka he lacks political skill)