If you don't mind, would you please name a single time in the history of the world where an authoritarian government, like we have now, is already in place and then have been ousted via democratic process?
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Authoritarian governments get ousted all the time, see Ukraine, Poland, DDR, Spain, USSR. The advantage the USA has versus all of them is a history of democracy to fall back on in the reconstruction.
aug 28, 2025, 6:06 am • 3 0 • view
I didn't say ousted in general, I said ousted democratically. I usually hear about authoritarians fall through violent uprising.
aug 28, 2025, 12:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Usually non violent uprisings.
aug 28, 2025, 12:39 pm • 0 0 • view
I have no hope this will happen here, but is theoretically possible
aug 28, 2025, 4:50 am • 14 0 • view
This does provide a small hope that its possible, though we are much further down the rabbit hole.
aug 28, 2025, 4:54 am • 6 0 • view
The collapse of the Soviet Union saw many such referenda, but it's notable that these involved smaller states breaking away from a larger union. That could happen in the US too. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...
aug 28, 2025, 4:52 am • 1 0 • view
I find it odd that bluesky marked your post as "intolerant". What do they think is so intolerant about it?
aug 28, 2025, 4:58 am • 0 0 • view
My account has the label, so every post carries it. It's because I mostly use Bluesky to follow and engage in the sex/gender debate, and most gender-critical people are given the label.
aug 28, 2025, 5:22 am • 0 0 • view
Oh really? I find that other people's gender and sexual orientation are usually none of my business, but I'd defend someone's freedoms. That includes their freedom to live the way they want to live. I find there is really no debate concerning those things and ppl who try are usually trolling.
aug 28, 2025, 12:37 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm all for people living any way they choose, up to the usual common-sense limit, which is when it impacts negatively on others. At that point it becomes a balancing act between conflicting rights and freedoms.
aug 28, 2025, 12:42 pm • 1 0 • view
How does someone else living the way they want to live, undetermined by your personal definition of common sense, effect the rights or freedoms of someone else? If you don't like it, you could just ignore it.
aug 28, 2025, 12:44 pm • 0 0 • view
I think it's a fairly universally accepted limit to personal freedoms. Live how you choose unless it harms others. Right?
aug 28, 2025, 12:48 pm • 0 0 • view
If there is not a safety concern, it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights.
aug 28, 2025, 12:52 pm • 0 0 • view
But if there is an infringement of someone else's safety, rights, or wellbeing, then you'd accept that there should be a limit to the personal freedom in question? Society doesn't function if everyone just pleases themselves at everyone else's expense, right?
aug 28, 2025, 12:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Trans women have not shown themselves to be a danger to women the way men are. Men ascribe their own motives to trans women.
aug 28, 2025, 1:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Persecuting someone based on their personal choices or changes they make in their lives is an infringement on their rights. Medical journals and peer reviews have come out stating the brain chemistry of a trans man more closely aligns with that of those born as men and the same for women.
aug 28, 2025, 1:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Tell me a way someone's gender or sexual orientation would harm someone who has nothing to do with that person.
aug 28, 2025, 12:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Firstly do you agree with my framing of an appropriate limit to personal freedoms?
aug 28, 2025, 12:57 pm • 0 0 • view
No, there needs to be a direct violation that occurs and each case can be treated individually. Saying that someone who is trans violates another persons rights in general is just stupid.
aug 28, 2025, 1:04 pm • 0 0 • view
South Korea, Brazil, Turkey in the late 90’s ( they reverted to authoritarian rule though) Spain after Franco. It does happen but the people have to work at it. There doesn’t seem to have any of that kind of will in the US though.
aug 28, 2025, 11:21 am • 1 0 • view
Or in Brazil's case, a military coup?
aug 28, 2025, 12:43 pm • 0 0 • view
Weren't most of those instances ended with violent rebellion?
aug 28, 2025, 12:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Wasn’t your country born of violent rebellion?
aug 28, 2025, 1:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Born, progressed based on, etc., but my people were the ones suffering the violence. Is there a point to your query?
aug 28, 2025, 2:00 pm • 0 0 • view
aug 28, 2025, 2:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Idk how you could possibly misinterpret my comments so much, but clearly you did.
aug 28, 2025, 2:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Poe’s law perhaps. Lack of caffeine might also have played a role.
aug 28, 2025, 2:10 pm • 1 0 • view
Lol, now that, I do understand.
aug 28, 2025, 2:11 pm • 1 0 • view
Historical perspective is the point. You want revolution without violence then go for it.
aug 28, 2025, 2:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Maybe you should scroll up and read my comments again. My point is that authoritarian rule ends in violence, appropriately so. Voting them out rarely happens, if ever. It almost always happens through violence or death of the authoritarian in question.
aug 28, 2025, 2:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Then we agree. Can’t wait to see the amorphous usain population finally figuring things out. Good luck and all that. Reminds of the quip by Churchill that says Americans will always do the right thing after they tried everything else.
aug 28, 2025, 2:09 pm • 0 0 • view
I guess they picked that up from their ancestors.
aug 28, 2025, 2:10 pm • 0 0 • view