The is a crisis among young men. We would be wise to pay attention. My latest adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/young-men-...
The is a crisis among young men. We would be wise to pay attention. My latest adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/young-men-...
That is so disturbing and sad to think they believe he is the answer, he should come with a warning label
Oh cry me a river! Women have truly pulled themselves by their bootstraps as they gain agency over themselves (remember they couldn’t have a credit card till 1974). Young men just don’t want to apply themselves. Nobody owes them. They need to wake up.
Bah.
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Really, trump is the answer? How's that going for them so far? No lessons learned, they are lonely because they are the bottom of the evolution barrel. They're lonely because nature says they need to be.
Growing glorification, acceptance, and popularity of MMA isn’t helping.
This is complete baloney. It’s a crisis for American children. American culture is In crisis and has been for decades. The growth of sectarianism & social media fuels the growth of communities based on hate It’s blamed on left and right wing politics but it’s really about identity @aoc.bsky.social
Too bad these young men aren't as strong as young women have had to be over the decades to: * Get educated * Work harder than men * Carry the majority of household responsibilities * Learn financial responsibilities (AND the right priorities!) * Suck it up and carry on, while working for change.
If they never want to have sex in their lives, going down the Trump highway is a perfect way to get there...
The hard part is that they are preying on a prviliged group by telling them they are victims & encouraging them to do the very things that make them lonely. The crisis of our time is that equity looks like victimization to the privileged ones having to relinquish just a little undue power.
Free or cheap third spaces and intramural sports for adults would do a lot
Can men learn? Do they want to? The Four Core Components of Emotional Intelligence 1. Self-Awareness 2. Self-Management 3. Social Awareness 4. Relationship Management
I give thanks every day that my nephew tells his sons that this is not the way you act.
That’s the crisis. Being maga.
This is a self created problem that could be solved by not being an asshole. I don’t have sympathy for them.
I'm sorry, but "be a giant NFL himbo chosen to marry a Democratic billionaire Satanic priestess" isn't a realistic solution to the male youth crisis. You are not a serious person and you do not have serious solutions to our serious national problems.
Ah, the "male loneliness epidemic" A situation created entirely by young men incapable of self-reflection/improvement because social media influencers tell them empathy is "woke" & not masculine. It never ceases to amaze me. The lengths people will go to help young men blame everyone but themselves
Exactly. Suck it up, young dudes...as women have had to do for centuries.
Nailed it!
Anything but therapy 😵💫🙃😵💫
In this case, the real cruelty is to let them continue this path of blaming the world for their problems.
Changing Boy Scouts to scouts, suppressing college fraternities and eliminating men’s college teams in the name of equity are all examples of adult society eliminating boys’ activities.
Nope, just being all-inclusive and moving beyond the old ways. Your resistance to inclusiveness and change is the real problem. Stop blaming the world for YOUR unhappiness.
I assume you want to abolish brownies, Girl Scouts, and girl only sports teams too.
To be clear, no boys' activities are being taken away. We're simply acknowledging that some things never needed to be separated by gender for children or adults. Your strawman and what-if arguments are no good here. Sounds like you'd be more at home on truth social or twitter. 🤷🏽
So you do support eliminating brownies, Girl Scouts, and separate girls’ sports?
Or are you saying you support opening them up to boys on an equal basis?
Their crisis is their own making no one gets their perfect life handed to them on a silver platter it takes hard work and sacrifice something they do not want to understand
All betas, and mostly dumb... Sorry to say that, but these people are so stupid. It freaking hurts to listen to them comment on anything...
Trumps christo fascist regime offers young men the same things ISIS does: power and retribution in the short term poverty and death in the long term
I want to care. What stands in the way is knowing their level of concern for me, my daughter, and all the daughters of this world is a negative number. History and decades of observation: it’s always women who care about them, and they NEVER grow a single good gosh darn about us.
substack.com/home/post/p-... This essay may add depth to the issue.
We are still in a crisis among young women. Try calling attention to that before the young men.
Young women aren’t shooting up schools and joining ICE so they can beat up minorities
If they think Trump is the answer, they really are in crisis. There should be programs devoted to teaching young men how to attract women and form relationships. They should stop watching porn and stop listening to some of these podcasters that are misogynistic jerks.
I hope you’re wrong 😑
I'm just smh over how white males all of sudden feel like a minority class. It's BS, while capable women still struggle on the the career/salary ladder, in the private sector, and the military. How about they just realize they aren't better just because they are a man? 😭 Women fight. Men pout.
Yet, in European countries, where men aren’t taught that they’re superior or sacred, they don’t become entitled like they do in theocratic states, including the US. “Absence of fathers” and other similar bullshit rationalizing isn’t helping, either. Teach them to be gentlemen, not that they’re owed.
That’s on Joe Rogan
The thing about some young men is they can’t seem to accept mediocrity from females whilst often being mediocre at best. Their sense of entitlement stems from entrenched patriarchal expectations. They are often quite uninteresting in conversation and boring in that only seem to care for themselves.
We’re at this stage of the quote… “good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times”
It’s kinda like mom wasn’t able to set them up with girlfriends so they’re grown up and now want society to do it.
Don’t these “men” have bootstraps?
Seriously!? 🤣
Holy shit… get outside… put the phone down. Males struggling to find a mate (partner, wife, girlfriend, etc) is as old as life itself.
That's sad...Trump will lead them right off the cliff
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Hmm. Maybe a decent wage like $66 minimum wage like supposed to be, wouldn’t leave them chained at home! We need a wage for single people to live freely without forming a financial partnership. That never happened in my whole fkin life!! The stolen wages contributed social infection nationwide! Duh!
Get them all AI girlfriends as long as they stop murdering women and girls. They are not entitled to female companionship for crying out loud. All of us, when we were kids, were lonely and didn’t have girlfriends at some time or other. We didn’t grow up to be toxic and violent toward women.
I know too many young guys who follow their parents' lead on the political side of things. Their dad is a Trumper, and so are they.
Get out of your giant pick up truck and get out into the world.
Maybe they could try not being whiney little bitches.
They'll be getting a lot lonelier if they don't get their fragile little heads out of trump shitty ass. No one likes shitty little boys. 💩💩
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One of the sources of the issue is that most rural and small city high schools only recognize success in sports as a marker of achievement. Many young men have interests and capacities which have no recognition. Celebration and recognition of personal capacity is lacking.
Truth! We need to promote and celebrate many diverse paths to accomplishment and success defined by individual expression. No one just inherently knows what turns them on. But we cut music, arts, and trades from school, so they fall down online rabbit holes thinking they have no place in society
Adam I completely understand what you’re saying and the young men are struggling BUT I’m also in the camp of when people show you who they are, believe them. Most men simply want to be assholes🤷🏻♀️ that’s my personal experience with them.
counseling would be a good option. But the GOP would not consider it manly, because it implies weakness. And the dear leader would never encourage counsel other than himself.
We need to learn from parts of the world that have moved ahead of the US on this issue. Education as early as possible on how social media works & how it can be used to manipulate populations. Finland's media literacy is a program worth learning from. Denmark & Sweden have similar ones, I believe.
Perhaps we need to stop destroying the programs(DEI,women's studies)put in place that can help these young straight white men(cuz that's who we're really talking about here, isn't it?)realize that they are not, and should not be, the center of the universe, and help them ✌️fully acclimate to reality
Also-it could be argued that much of what your article spells out is the inevitable direct result of GOP's(your party Adam and possibly your votes)complete unwillingness to support programs that actually invest in people and their well being,in favor of corporations,NRA,lining their own pockets
As much as I want to dismiss this as an excuse for pathetic young men who think they are alphas, I do think it should be addressed.
How do you address this without either telling men to get out of the basement and work at life like the rest of us, or giving them favored status again?
I really do not know. As a straight, white man I am embarrassed by what has happened to young straight, white men. What we really need is more regulation on what these podcasters are allowed to say on their shows because these young men have been lied to.
Absolutely there is a MAJOR Crisis! There is a need, RIGHT NOW, for a "detoxification from trump syndrome" therapy. "GROUP SESSIONS", a must." ALL of maga must get a strong dose of detoxifying. Be re-trained on HOW TO THINK for THEMSELVES & LIVE in REALITY. Now, sooner rather than later!
Get off the internet, touch grass, read, get a hobby, a little physically active, respect women, don't look up to billionaires and child rapists, don't be a dick, stop blaming other people unlike you for your failures, become interesting, and you'll touch boobs. It's really that simple.
Except these guys don't have anyone telling them this. Instead their influencers are pushing them toward incel groups who radicalize them to hate.
Exactly, that's the get off the internet part. The most masculine things you can be are gentle, intelligent, accepting, interested, interesting, and caring of yourself and others. Those things may take work. Being a "man" takes work. Being macho and giving in to your primitive brain is lazy AF.
But we cut opportunities from schools for kids who aren't sporty to find community and confidence in other things like art, music, trades, stem, etc. … so all they have are the online algorithms which lead them from gaming to toxic masculinity and alt right entitlement.
Turning to trump just made their issues worse. Admiring trump shows absolutely no morals or judgement.
Trump is never the answer... always the cause of ANY problem...
When you have young men cheering on Nick Fuentes saying “Your body, my choice”, sexually objectifying females, calling them the “weaker” sex, telling them to submit to their male partner, threatening their right to vote, then maybe they need to reflect on why they are alone. Females are not property
Adam, we are all in crisis and it would be wise of you to pay attention and maybe scan the room to see if maybe you are not paying attention to all humans. Adults need to step up and act like adults, no matter their gender, nationality, socioeconomic position, religion, political leaning...
These 'men' are lonely because they've been raised that it's cool to be a toxic pile of shit. And they like Trump because he tells them what they want to hear. That they don't need to better themselves, the world should just cater to them. These 'men' need a harsh wake-up call.
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About those lost factory jobs that allowed men to support families: reminder that big corporations sent those jobs overseas and big tech now promotes AI to replace workers. It is corporate greed over need, paid for by donors to the GOP. Dems: shout your support of unions & labor for young workers!
I think the real crisis is that there aren't positive male figures for them to look for. The attention is 100% on shit bags and the good examples are shut down. Look at news, TV shows, movies, etc. The Pitt was so successful because people were hungry for Noah's character
Hyper-aggressive toxic masculine bros thinking women owe them attention, and when they don't get it, they become even more hateful toward women. Trump symbolizes that misogyny and they love him for it.
Loneliness is much more lethal when it's carrying a gun.
Growing up in the ‘70’s there was a real outreach to young boys. Football player Rosey Grier sang about it, and shows like Mr. Rogers Neighborhood (song: What Do You Do With The Mad You Feel) and Sesame Street helped little boys understand their feelings and develop empathy.
When equality feels like oppression, it’s because someone had privilege. Your article mentions male role models. Females have always been taught to look up to males. How about mentioning some female role models men can look up to (gasp!) besides someone’s mom? There are plenty out there.
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I've had a bit of experience with this and my son. They Do Not want to hear it. It's a challenge, he's an adult, but I see it screwing up his life
Tired of hearing this. I have two boys both veterans of OIF/OEF (Navy/USMC), college graduates (BS/MS). Well adjusted with good jobs, spouses & cute kids. Had the usual high school & college hijinks but were always considerate of others etc. What happened over the past 20+ yrs?
My thoughts exactly. As someone raising 3 boys all I want to know is where are their parents? Where are their fathers? Passing off parenting to the internet is a problem. Values start at home. Learning respect starts at home. I can’t change the world, but I can certainly teach my boys.
I know a lot of young men who don't think Trump is the answer to anything they care about.
Where I live (a full-bore redneck county in a blue state), the 20-something men are probably 90% MAGAt.
We should probably just limit h1bs to women - that would solve the problem
males have historically been given status just because they are men. that makes for a lazy mindset and an expectation of a handout. perhaps they need to look at how women have earned their rights and status over the past 100 years.
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This!!!!💯
BINGO!
You guys remember how the town's economy was driven by the shoe factory? The problem is simply that these kinds of business decisions ARE NOT being made anymore. No corporate board is saying, "we need to keep wages high and sustain the town" or country. Use govt. to make business responsible.
Look at on-air news peeps. Women. Fabulous. Super smart. Women. Men are stupid. Have been for 300,000 yrs. Men are good for killing mastodons, mowing the lawn, shoveling the driveway. Killing one another. That's it. Dear my fellow man, Get over it. Listen to women. Do as they say. Promptly..!
men are creating their own crisis - tantrums - every time they don't get what they want, which is everything
Less fortnite, more camp nights
Less progressives, more MAGA.
Tell your idiotic game playing young men if they want a woman in their lives, they need to get their act together. I have no interest in raising them up. They are LOSERS.
Hate to tell you, there’s almost as many women gamers as there are men. Gaming isn’t the problem 🙄
Well it definitely doesn’t make them more interesting. And as far as I know, it doesn’t have the same deleterious effect on women.
Then you don’t know what you’re talking about. I think you’d be surprised at the gamers on here like Popehat and RadioFreeTom. People have a skewed and incorrect vision of what a gamer is. Gamers are the same as everyone else with a hobby. Good, bad and otherwise
Not gaming, no. I game and I have empathy toward others. It's doing nothing but gaming and expecting women to come to them.
Agree
You are correct, gaming is a symptom of a greater problem.
You are idiotic if you think gaming is a greater problem. Gaming is no different than watching TV or going to the movies or watching sports or any other hobby.
It’s not the problem but the algorithms for male gamers seeking connection can most definitely lead them to red pill and black pill groups who are deeply misogynistic, white supremacist, and extreme in their false narratives and conspiracies. Parents need to know.
I can see that, but if you (gosh you) were part of the gaming world you’d find that the gaming community is no different than any other community. The gaming community isn’t predominantly mysoginistic white supremacists though those people are certainly out there.
The gaming world is different because it’s predominantly online. Online connections don't eliminate the needs and benefits of IRL connection. When girls decided to create games that weren't celebrating sexist stereotypes, there was a backlash that spawned an alt right pipeline that still exists.
I’ve been part of the gaming community for 50 years and I’m also a lesbian. Absolutely everyone needs real life connections whether you’re a gamer or not. The vast majority of games aren’t sexist stereotypes, but I know the group you’re talking about. They are disgusting, but they aren’t t/majority
We don't need them to be a majority for them to be a problem. When I listened to the podcast Boys Like Me, one expert they interviewed explained that its only 10% of the guys participating in incep groups who actually get caught perpetrating violence in the real world, but as the group grows, …
I agree, it’s a problem. However, too many people present it as the problem is video games, and present the viewpoint that every gamer is a lazy loser who doesn’t work and lives in their mom’s basement.
Also, they vote. Their vote is misogynistic and racist.
*incel
Exhibit A en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate
I remember it well.
You need to care. Birth rates have been dropping. Women can't find men who want to raise families. I blame the trans movement, social media and progressives.
I managed just fine on my own without marrying. It’s not a sentence. It’s a choice. And if the population declines, that would be fine too. The planet would be grateful.
Well, everyone is different and there will always be exceptions, but statistically people who get a job, marry and raise a family are happier in general with their lives.
Blame whomever you wish but I’ll be damned if I’m going to help a bunch of lazy men who will then go on to earn 25% more than I. You help them, brokebattery. But you’ll never make me give a shit.
Helping men helps women too. Most women want strong men to marry and help raise families. We need to bring back traditional family values. The prescription for happiness is simple: get a job, marry and raise a family. Statistics prove it.
One question for them (in my best pre-crazy Dr. Phil voice): "How's that workin' for ya?"
Surely, supporting a rapist is going to make those lads more desirable indeed 🙄
Adam, read your policy suggestions. Whether you realize it or not, you've just described the policies of the Democrats. 50 years ago, Ronald Reagan's trickle-down economics put us on our current path. Clinton, Obama, Biden, all tried to reverse course but were stymied. #VoteBlue
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Guys …. Just ask any female in your life how young she was when she realized she was prey. Then ask another, because I know you won’t believe her. Ask all of the women you know. Go ahead. I dare you.
I learned early about male fragility (aka masculinity). The boys made a long jump pit in a field. I jumped the farthest & turned around for my high fives, but they filled in the pit and excluded me from any further fun.
I was born in a time when a husband's favorite saying was " I keep my wife home barefoot and pregnant!" Those days are gone; women have come a long way, baby. And fought long and hard to get there! Women are their own person, no man's chief cook and bottle washer! Successful in our own right now!!
The left would do good by acknowledging this and seeing what they can do to help these young men. But I see many on the left, especially women, just say its the fault of the men and showing zero empathy. Continuing to victim blame the men is not good for the democratic party.
Victims of what?
Poor babies.
Without happiness there is not much reason to live .
God, family, friends, neighbors, community, state and country in that order will bring happiness.
All kinds of love makes us happy . Because if we know how to love and if we feel that we are loved , we are wanted and safe . If people are not loved , they feel lonely . Nobody cares about them . Then it is quite hard for a young man to learn to care and love . Love is caring , hate is destroying.
I've always found men difficult to understand. But I do encourage the men that I'm friends with to feel. Unfortunately finding male role models is difficult since society needs an enemy to function in the minds of powerful men.
We get not enough guidance to understand men . And men get not enough guidance to understand women . And we women are quite egoistic and selective, too difficult and narrow minded . There is lot to explore in this simple circle; boys and girls, men and women . We had at school traditional folk dance
You still have pit falls. Like male influencers that encourage men to be the worst of themselves. Like Andrew Tate and then you have influencers who encourage women who were disadvantaged to become less and less tolerant of men.
In Kenia , lives Maasai tribe . They have ancient traditions . Boys and girls . They teach everyone to treat each other with equal respect, but clearly boys and girls have different role and characteristics. No baby gets lots to the lions . But no tribe or society is perfect . It is really complex
Then you throw in money and it gets worse. Like how do you make equality a focus when most of our society is built generations of inequality?
Men need to understand they are loved by God. Find people who feel the same way. Statistically, men and women who have a job, marry and raise a family are happy and consider themselves successful. It doesn't matter if you're gay, lesbian or straight. It is a formula for success.
God doesn’t exist
That is a bit of a problem , if our happiness hangs on God , as there is no sign nor prove of it’s existence. Too hard for sceptic and intelligent people to be happy from love of God or Jeesus that never comes for a real visit .
Indeed!
Young men usually need some more tangible love . God is something to believe in , not tangible love .
Young men also need positive role models as well as a system that is designed not to make them the enemy don't get me wrong positive men exist but they are rare and frustrating to find at times.
Where I grew up in Finland , all boys and girls were friends and learned to treat each other with equal respect. They are all good men from my village as far as I know . And good girls . But certainly there needs to be good role models . Modern men do not want to carry responsibility for women .
Or even other men honestly. To honest your village sounds like a paradise that my younger self wish that they had experienced but I now look at that paradise as something that I will die before seeing.
The Mind Behind It All (God) provides tangible love whether you believe it or not. Traditional families and men have been under attack by progressive, DEI and trans ideology for years. It affects women, too. Men and women are rejecting this narcissistic lifestyle and flocking back to trad values.
Traditional family , biological mom and dad , that love each other and their children is the best what any child can have. Some tribe around makes it even better . I am myself also traditional family person . Woman needs a strong man . In addition, with current cost of living , it reduces stress.
People need a strong partner in general but what is strength? Shouldn't we see if our definitions match?
I try to keep it simple . Too few world allowed . I was referring to myself . I am traditional biological woman . I would not like to be stronger mentally nor physically. I rather have my man as lead . I have bad experience with men that want strong independent women. I am not that .
God doesn’t exist
Prove it.
No sympathy for them. It’s always been a crisis for women in this country .. at all ages. . And no one gives a damn.
This is all complete bullshit. I was always a strikeout king with women. Hardly any luck at all. For the most part my love life has been as barren as the Sahara. And yet I never devolved into a misogynist or a racist or an immigrant basher or an anti-science, conspiracy theory-embracing idiot.
US civil war 2 or WW3 should fix that
I am sick of hearing this woe is me bullshit about men and their loneliness- so what women don’t get lonely - well yes but they are not whining about it and blaming it on men…
So weird because in the 70s the loneliness crisis among women got nothing but “mothers little helper” and a pat on the head. Women figured out they don’t need men, they need birth control & equal pay. Perhaps men need to figure it out. Or just take a little Valium.. I hear it works wonders.
I would very much like to ask one of the young men in in this study just what the hell chump would do for them or has done for them...I'll bet none of them would give a coherent answer or none at all.
Imagine how lonely trans people are. They aren't even allowed to express their identity in some places for fear of rejection and retaliation.
Absolutely!! Everyone is chatting up empathy... except for people that don't look like them! Part of that patriarchal table that slants absolutely EVERYTHING towards straight white men!! It's infuriating 🤬
It's really infuriating. Especially because having empathy and letting people live their lives is free. Hate and suppression costs time, energy, and, as we are learning during this regime, heaps of money.
Not to mention lives 😕
Read the article. It tries to have it both ways. It both acknowledges (rightfully) that women deserve a place at the table in a career, but, it also implicitly blames them for these men's woes and extols "traditional masculinity", which needs to go away as a cultural concept.
Don't get me wrong, it's fine to have a masculine culture and a feminine culture. People will always want an identity. But, the idea that a man should make the money and the woman should be secondary needs to die. It's a breeding ground for rewarding mediocrity and punishing women for being women.
Here's the difference...you know it smacks of patriarchy when there must be someone to blame,control,overcome-and it's ALWAYS women.It's always women that have to pick up the slack (men call it the "glue")it's F-ing exhausting and women are no longer standing for it!
Come to think of it ...it's probably the loss of free labor that women have always provided..and are now refusing to...that piss off men like trump the most.
Yup. And the fact that women are identifying toxic traits and avoiding them now. Some men simply don't want to change. They want the world to continue to cater to their mediocrity. They'd rather find a dictator to retire them to power than to improve themselves.
Well said...and it's a shame...cuz there are many of us out here that really like men..well...many aspects of them. But you know you have a problem when women feel safer being alone in the woods with a bear than a man 😬
Yup. And the fact that so many men reacted not with "shit, then we gotta make it so women feel safer around men" but with "what the hell is wrong with women" proves the point perfectly.
And also....I never thought I'd say this..but..what can women do if Republicans make it easier to arm yourself than find mental healthcare? 🤷Just sayin'...it might, sadly..be getting to that time
That was super shortsighted of them. Sure, they were probably hedging their bets in case they never got this level of power, but, it could prove to be their downfall.
I wish I could say turn about would be fair play..and actually happen! ..but some people don't possess that much hate in their hearts.. thankfully...but there's no harm in being prepared 😏🤣💪
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And women shouldn't stand for it. They should be allowed to be the head of the household and/or primary earner of their skill set is better suited to that than their partner. And men need to be okay with that and not take it as an assault on their honor.
And men need to stop blaming women when they are lonely or can't compete in their career.
Boom! The backlash to what maga calls DEI is really just the whining of mediocre (usually yt) men that are po'd now that they have to compete against people that, thanks to racism and sexism,used to have one arm tied behind their back.MAGAts answer to it?..just fire any women or POC in government!
And erase their accomplishments so, in the future, mediocre yt men can pretend they've always been better than everyone else.
Exactly!! 💯...so the question is ..has this ever actually worked? Will this bullshit die with trump like it did with Hitler? Next question is how many more people will die as a result..😩
I can see now that that was a stupid question cuz.. ITS ALWAYS F-ing WORKED!!...Had to zoom out for a minute ..dayum
It's worked, but, not perfectly. There are always people who bring up the truth even in the most authoritarian countries. There were massive protests in Georgia and there was Arab spring. Eventually, the truth teller win against the oppressive regimes.
Hmmm...I smell nationwide strike 😏
It's the best medicine for a capitalist nation. If money is everything, that also becomes the Achilles heel.
It worked in North Korea. But, trying to erase an entire nation's history is hard to maintain and requires constant use of force. I don't know how many will diw and that scares me.
It seems we are at the beginning of the "constant use of force" no?... that phrase sends shivers down my spine 😬
My thoughts went to The Lost Cause and how we've never really gotten rid of that BS...so yeah..I guess it actually has actually has always worked on some people..hence out current spot in history 😩
Instead, let's head into a new kind of economy where we invest in people and reward them for doing the things they are naturally drawn to. But, that means not just the market but our entire culture has to change.
Here here 👏👏👏
Lonely or not, women don't owe anyone a relationship. It's not the job of women to serve as a man's personal unpaid psychologist and fuck buddy just so these men don't destroy the world. Besides, I've seen how toxic many of these "lonely men" are. They have red flags out the wazoo.
WELL SAID!!! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you! 💙 I also thought nobody owing anyone a relationship was fairly uncontroversial. But, I got some strong opinions that decided to reply lol.
Yeah, my (grown) boys are all single with lots of friends of all genders and not lonely... like I dunno, man. Stop letting fascists raise kids, I guess?
Amen! And stop tolerating bad behavior in general. Less "boys will be boys" and more expecting empathy and responsible behavior.
Women are not rehabilitation centers for badly behaved or broken men. Work on yourselves.
You make it sound like women have their shit together - and it’s some act of kindness to enter into relationship with men. I love and enjoy the women in my life, but let’s not pretend that they don’t have their big problems too. Obv NO to abuse, violence, etc But it takes 2 to make a thing go right.
They don't. Nobody has their shit together. If you read that into my post, that's on you. Nobody owes anyone a relationship. But, the article was about men. Apparently, nobody cares if women are lonely. Only that men are.
👏👏👏...boom! That's at the heart of it all, isn't it? The baseline that women are not as valuable or important as men.
Now who’s reading into things.
I think that's a fair assessment since I rarely see articles about the women's loneliness epidemic. But, I can't swing a lanyard without finding an article about male loneliness.
You’re seeing it lately, precisely BC it was neglected for decades. Both can be true: 1) Historically (and ongoing) white male dominated society 2) The worsening of male mental/physical health, identity, education, jobs, cultural vilification, advertising image (incompetent/clueless/lazy), etc
And 3) That very rarely does anyone write articles about women being lonely. Believe it or not, there are female incel sites. Women, like men, are capable of being lonely and wanting love and, yes, even sex. Yet, I only see articles about male loneliness.
Like I said, it’s actually been the decade (more like since 2000 ish) of the woman. Tons of articles, books, studies, movies/tv, therapy, healing retreats etc etc. Bc it was playing catchup to decades of male centred society. And as it does, the pendulum swung too far, and boys/men got neglected.
Also, weird that this is the decade of the woman, yet, we only just started believing sexual assault victims and then stopped. And it resulted in women losing their reproductive rights. If this is the decade of women, I hate to see what a decade of men would look like.
1) I think your anecdotal expertise in what articles exist over the past 25 years is doing some heavy lifting here. 2) At least until Trump got really dictatorial and misogynistic in this 2nd term, it was a time of progress and attn for women. And pop culture pushed the smart girl / dumb boy thing.
Weird, men are supposedly neglected, yet, I keep seeing only articles about them being lonely. Are women not lonely? Or, is this more likely a case of a group of people living in privilege so long that not being the center of the universe is seen as oppression?
No they don’t. There are good ones out there but talk politics right away. Talk values AND don’t have children in red states.
He doesn't say anything in there about women owing men a relationship. He also doesn't blame women for what's going on. He mentions things that can benefit everyone and even women are lonely. It's about friends, family, community too. People are disconnected.
He talks about those things, yes. He also talks about how women entering the job force and succeeding there is creating an underclass of men that can't provide for their families. Also, the "loneliness epidemic" is frequently a vehicle to push women to date men.
But, I do agree that people do need community. And the kind of community people need is one that challenges them to be their best, not one that gives them excuses for why they failed.
Watching this👇🏼 I came away with 1 point: men should be ashamed of themselves for being such horrible fathers creating weak men who harm others. We’ll be lucky to survive this generation of monsters. Men need to hold themselves & each other accountable. Leave women alone. bsky.app/profile/nort...
Wazoo is a fun word
I think your message is so true and it applies to any relationship regardless of sexuality, sex or gender. I do nice things for my husband not because I owe him anything but because I love him. I’m not everyone though. No one owes anyone a relationship or their words or the time of day
I'm so happy you have a relationship like that with your husband. I wish everyone had a relationship like that where both partners genuinely care for each other.💙
Furthermore it's not a woman's job to tell men why they need to have empathy
Yup. That's supposed to be the job of the parents, schools and society in general. If millions of men made it all the way into adulthood without learning empathy, that's a problem with society and it's not the burden of a potential romantic partner to spend the one life they have fixing it.
And it is a personal failing if, as an adult, you demand that any one else educate you. You say you are a grown up and want all the benefits of being an adult but continue to expect to be hand fed...nope, just a baby in a big body. All humans are lonely right now. The world is cruel and unsafe.
This.
Because that hole is not fixable from the outside. Look at our president
Republican Party bro culture is as outdated as the Confederacy.
Sure is
And it needs to become just as much of a relic of the past.
But it won’t. Civil War 1 may be in the past, but it’s vibes have never left America.
None of the treasonous confederate leaders were held accountable for the Civil War. The only person who paid a price was Abraham Lincoln. When folks don’t face consequences they are left thinking that they are morally right, and they regroup “to rise again.”
We made the exact same mistake with the insurrection. And the payback for that mistake has been much more immediate.
The fact that it’s in our culture to tell boys to “stop crying” is a big part of it. “Boys don’t cry” is bullshit - they need to allowed to express their emotions as children, otherwise they go looking for validation in women when they’re grown.
This. Not to mention this better explains the "lonely men" in this article being emotionally stunted than women competing against them for careers. If boys are taught to suppress emotions, why are we surprised some of them grow up emotionally stunted?
Well that’s why I always make space for my son when he’s upset and hold him when he’s crying.
You're a great parent!💙
Aww thank you! I try! 😁🙏
Society? BS. The job and responsibility belong to the parents. Ultimately, it's up to these young men to LEARN how to change their own lives for the better, not cede that responsibility to others and act like someone owes them something. And emulating Donald Trump is not going to fix anything.
It's society too. Society allows men to blame a woman for dressing a certain way. Society says "boys will be boys". Society tells them that men are supposed to be in power. Parenting is important and can counteract society's bad messages. But, we can't act like the overall culture has no influence.
You are correct - everything has an influence - at the end of the day each person gets to choose what they do and don't believe and how they will and will not act. So, to the young men who are struggling: a) grow up; b) get some new experiences and insights; c) take responsibility for yourself.
Exactly. Little disappointed in Adam’s opinion piece.
Adam, stick with this. Whether people here agree or not this is the perception of the men we need to change their minds and votes
Aren't you still in the party that is stealing women's rights? Sorry guys today have no game but a lot of them have no business breeding in the first place. A lot of them are walking red flags.
and gee whiz wasn’t Facebook created by men to Rate women.. The crisis among males seems to me to be mostly self inflicted
While I agree with a few of your comments the fact remains that a good portion of the male population does not will not accept the fact that women are actual human beings
The idea of any young person thinking that Trump is some ideal of what it means to be a man, is comically stupid. They also seem to think Rogan is an intellectual, so I have no answers. DJT is a draft dodger, repeat sexual abuser, insurrectionist, felon, and likely pedophile.
Why the fuck do they always get the coddling, while the rest of us are told to be stronger? This is no “crisis” at all. It’s men “finally” being just a little bit less happier/but still way more privileged. This was never considered a crisis for women or minorities. Toughen up, men.
Maybe it’d help if the young lost dudes look up from their phones now and then. 🙋♂️ #LostInPhones
I would say raise the voting age to 50, but I blame my Generation X more than any other for Donald Trump They’re old enough to know better
manufactured crisis, bunch of snowflakes don't even realize THEY are the snowflakes as they call out the progressives
Or we could just, ya know, *control ourselves* and cut the race/gender identity fluff…. I’m a PERSON. I’m ME. Live and let live.
Perhaps these young men should shut off computers go down & volunteer to meet people. How about fathers step up to get them engage with the community with different climbing groups, sports groups, computer groups. Dads must step up not the women. This is a male thing to solve
The loneliness epidemic is because of their shitty personalities. The idea that women are people isn't "woke" or "leftist". They chose Trump because women chose the bear.
And the connections they make in online incel red/black pill groups celebrate the shitty, toxic personalities. They go from being mommy’s sweet little man without a prom date, to women hating, white supremacists who want to go back to the past where women were the slaves of their husbands.
Don’t his followers ever take offense?
They think a malignant (sociopathic) narcissist is the answer to loneliness?
Trump is not the answer to anything, if you want to be a toxic male you will find yourself even lonelier than you are now.
As a former teacher of information literacy and an RN, I can say that this article is one of the best I have read. Thx
Too much time, energy and money has been spent on entertaining young men. They need to understand things like the benefit of hard work, ethical behavior and duty to family. A shovel, a rake and a broom make great teachers.
Oh brother. What a bunch of babies.
Young men only need to look to you as a prime example of what not to be. Your only worth as a human being these days.
It happens all over the world: young men are embracing fascism.
So many elections, even latest states elections, are disproving this. Currently Canada is the Global leader, embraced by most Countries as such & anything but. America has a black & woman issue that needs to be dealt with. The boys need to get out from under the Christian male entitlement rock.
The sense of entitlement and perceived victimhood has to stop. The demographic that has had the advantage for so long now cannot cope? Women and people of color have dealt with real oppression for ages and didn't turn into monsters like these men. Time for a reality check.
American males own their own testicles. American ladies, however, are NOT allowed to own their own ovaries.
Not very bright of them if they think a serial rapist of children is the answer to their personal crises.
Yes - try hard to reach them. But if they insist on backing fascism: 2) Save them from themselves by whooping their asses in the Midterms and Generals. Show them what is possible with functional Gov that actually delivers on wages, jobs, health, immigration reform, taxes, law & order, etc.
But Trump is an old fart
The whole goddamn country is in crisis right now thanks to the Trump administration. But all the pussies that are working in the white house right now are unbelievable.
Maybe they can look to Travis as a role model of how to attract women who aren’t losers.
Excuse me. I’m old enough to remember when all women could be were secretaries, teachers or nurses. Fuck the entitlement attitude of the males. Let them work hard and compete. And where the fuck are the parents in all this? Get them to a shrink
Excellent - thank you
WASH YOUR ASSES
They have every god damn advantage. The entire world is set up for them. They are pathetic and evil.
Exactly!
As someone who grew up isolated, and alone. I didn't crater into an incel, neo nazi, death spiral. No, actually I GREW UP around incels, and neo nazis in a small rural town. Felt isolated an alone. Then I did become radicalized. Just in the FAR opposite direction then these morons.
Perhaps the Draft should be reinstated. Two years in the Army can work wonders.
Society has abandoned a whole generation of young men. Good blue-collar jobs vanished, friendships collapsed after high school, and all they’re left with is toxic propaganda about what a ‘real man’ should be. No wonder they’re adrift.
Yes, young white boys have it so bad. It's the fucking internet and Social Media algorithms training them to be angry, small-mined assholes.
Do any of these young men recognize how unhappy Trump is? He has all the money and power that anyone could ever want, and he is miserable. He is a cautionary tale.
They don't. Toxic people don't recognize others' emotions. That's why they are toxic people. All they see is a guy getting his way and succeeding because of his evil ways.
White Maga INCELs are essential to the republican PSYOP . GOP worship of white male privilege to visit violence upon the rest of us.
Racist, pathological society with ingrained rape culture that is being flamed by social media. It’s not just a “young men” problem. The utter failure of American Reconstruction and the handling of the Southern states just created a bad seed going forward.
Don’t forget their idolizing the Tate Brothers, etc.
Go help someone. You'll feel better about yourself. We need boy scouts again.
I’m really tired of whiney little men who think society owes them happiness. Parents need to do better at raising them to be empathetic to others including women, black and brown people and other cultures. That’s why it makes it so hard to be empathetic towards them
For all those with negative reactions, I suggest you take a moment and consider the subject more deeply. There are real issues that need to be addressed, and doing so does not have to come at the expense of women and women's issues. Look into the work of Richard Reeves: ofboysandmen.substack.com
Doesn’t it boil down to: Why own the lack of opportunities you have because you were “too cool” to study in high school, when you can blame those who did?
I have a solution...mandatory 2yr conscription in our armed forces. The benefits would be multiple. Military service would build skills & character. We wouldn't have 5-time draft dodger. Right now, 1% of our population serves. I could go on... #proudmilitarydaughter
Very well written. You have a great perspective on the situation. Young men need more role models like you.
What an excellent read, Adam. Thank you for writing it. It’s honest and informative without blaming or excusing. Very insightful.
Stop listening to Joe Rogan and his ilk.
The crisis in young men is the result of shitty old men. Instead of teaching empathy,emotional intelligence, and humility, generations have been brought up with a bullshit patriarchy that is literally killing them.
You've hit the nail on the head with your reply-lots to unpack there.The absent father is a big one. If we really took a close look at how society has changed and contorted families/relationships-it's not too hard to see how they were/are merely reacting to policies that no longer invest in people
And before MAGAts think I'm one of them here...I am not talking about the acceptance of different types of families-I'm speaking of GOPs refusal to support any policies that would actually help! Like a living wage, universal health and childcare, gun control etc proven to make everyone's life better
And us
Exactly 👍
Speaking as some with empathy, emotional intelligence, and humility, it’s not just young men. I’m 55 years old and completely alone, mostly to disability, but also because of how our society has changed. Narcissistic tendencies are increasing. Both men and women, in all age groups.
Yes absolutely and it’s tragic that when these men do find the human connection they need it’s online in these incel groups who celebrate shooters, hype false narratives, and hatred of ppl (especially women) so that they seek glory in revenge. I'm autustic, so I know loneliness but women don't have
these types of online hate groups. Something about the way we are raised and the expectations on us make men more likely to feel drawn to this method of dealing. We’ve got to figure it out.
I think it’s pretty straightforward. Society has changed in saying women are equal to men. But society also needs to go through a change saying men are equal to women. There’s still a lot of stereotypes that are applied to men; protector, money earner, strong, etc.
And unfortunately we've only cut off opportunities for men to feel they can enter spaces formerly reserved for girls by cutting school programs that explore creative pursuits as well as avenues men traditionally had in trades. I took shop and home ec. Definitely were gender divided but shouldn't be.
We need to remove the stigma for men in some roles. Better yet, remove gender from all roles. Then men can be who they are and still be respected. The quiet man who just wants to be a homemaker isn’t ridiculed by peers or told to “man-up” by women. Great strides for women has left men behind.
Truely. Women are trying to embrace all the options while men still feel limited and even more so as if they are ceding ground to women who want to expand.
Social media, selfies, and FOMO are all considered connected, but I don’t think there’s “proof” yet. People are shown “the beautiful people”, with their “perfect” lives, and want that for themselves. At one point that only came from advertising, but with monetizing social media every is making ads
This is truly a world wide epidemic. It’s seen on all continents (not sure how they measured Antartica), cultures, and peoples. As long as they have smart phones.
Democrats and their faltering progressive culture offer only ambiguity. What even is a man? Progressivism reduces manhood to a lack of boobs and a fake phallus.
MAGA offers young men a clear script. Be strong, be competent, be a provider. In return, get admiration, feminine warmth, loyalty, and—yes—sex. It offers them an attractive, romantic vision: Wife, kids, hearths, hearts, legacy, respect, and love. Purpose and pleasure. Yin and yang.
Clue to incels… if you want a partner, try being a friend first. First… not as an afterthought.
Sad that they are unaware that they'll never have enough money to buy women, hookers and gold diggers, like 47 has done.
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Trump encourages them to hate the other and there are so many others. They somehow feel better about themselves when they can blame others for their own short comings. Too much TOXIC social media streaming into their fragile brains.
When they finally figure out that trump is making it impossible for them to get laid-maybe they'll wake up-or maybe when it dawns on them that thanks to Republican policies-if they actually do get laidthey now have a baby or two to support along with their starving grandma..ya think they saving up?
...and it doesn't seem their podcasters are doing them much good either. The "Joe Rogan's" of their podcast world certainly didn't do young men any favors in this last election. Steering them toward Trump hurt them more than helping them.
fnck, I'm 47 married, and feel lonely. I'm curious if we were to talk about it, if we'd find men of all ages feel dysphoric.
You nailed it with “without having to go outside their comfort zone.” Men’s inability to be flexible and pivot is their problem. Not loneliness. Their inability to analyze what is happening in their lives, communities, the world, is the problem, not loneliness. Teach those skills.
Loneliness among young men is definitely part of the problem.
Given our American history since Reagan, this crisis among our young men was inevitable. Trickle Down my ass.
They gave up unions jobs and a path toward retirement in trade for mean words about blacks women and gays. But were raised in the everybody gets a trophy era and are not capable of self reflection. This is why they are so easily radicalized
And I was happily giving out those trophies. Oh Ugh 😩
🤣🤣🤣..stop it..🤣🤣🤣
When everyone gets a trophy, the trophy becomes meaningless. People need the boost of confidence real accomplishment gives us.
Young people are experiencing a crisis of being able to find a good-paying job. This affects men and women, but “women must be blamed.”
So sad.
A thoughtful and extremely well-written piece. Thank you, Adam.
Very well-written and thorough. Please keep speaking truth to power, Adam; you're a good American.
All good thoughts. Thanks. For the Tuckers of the world: if someone has to lose for you to win, you've chosen to bring about misery instead of joy. Sadly there's no shortage of misery. And it will make you far less of a man.
I don't want to unfollow you, Adam, but you've been making it easier to do so.
When we lose empathy we lose humanity. It’s the age of the social media world and many youth are plugged in and incapable of viewing reality.
Oh for goodness´ sake! There is precisely NO excuse for voting fascist. Unless you are one yourself.
Same goes for pedophiles
BINGO ! …. …. and ignorant …. 😉
Ah yes, incels. However, their emotional stuntedness is a fault of the parents, and trying to be a "traditional" male. Whatever the fuq that actually means. Where is the role model for that? And why would females want anything to do with them? A lot goes into this.
"It is only fair that women are beginning to experience some equality in the workplace." Gosh, thanks.
There is a podcast called Boys Like Me from a Canadian journalist which is very enlightening yet horrible. It’s scary knowing the depth of hate being targeted at women by these boys/men in their groups online. There needs to be outreach from guys who are confident like a big brother program.
And we need to bring back options of exploration for self expression and confidence through accomplishment beyond athletics in school. Art, music, shop trades, working with hands, etc. We need more males teachers too. Positive role models. IRL community building ASAP for lonely, non sporty types
The crisis is parents who are raising men to believe they are better than women and brown or black people and are entitled to things they have not worked for or deserve. The YouTube algorithm is also drawing them deeper into these beliefs.
Young women know Trump is the problem. Ergo their loneliness (other than residual covid damage).
I stopped reading when you claimed D. Johnson and W. Smith were positive role models. What a load of sh!t. Do better research before you award your accolades.
Truth. Very well stated truth. Thank you.
They can have him.
No. I’m not buying this.
Not every child will be parented nor loved. FACTS are it affects the child for their entire lives, it affects those around them, society as a whole. There's so much need in our world, we're going backward on most things. How to address this? Parents need to be more involved, society needs to help.
Maybe they should try not being easily led losers.
Another “young men are in crisis” moment. As a woman in the US for 72 years my advice is that all y’all men need to work on yourselves. Suck it up. Sort it out. Do some self reflection. Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps. Take some classes. Get some therapy. And, do shut up.
Donald Trump and his policies are not going to make these weaklings acceptable to us. Ever. Trump supporters are genuinely horrible human beings.
Unfortunately, many young men have been getting their sense of "macho" relevance via Donald Trump. They have been receiving info from the wrong sources. It's so twisted! Then, some of the young men start to realize that they look ridiculous. It's sad. Someone😉 needs to show some true strength.
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Young WHITE men.
If they think Trump is the answer they should be euthanized. They're beyond hope of ever getting better.
Poor men. I mean it’s not like they have to be taught to have their car keys in hand to pop in their cars real fast, then immediately lock their doors to make sure they aren’t attacked in parking lots. Or walk in pairs so they aren’t vulnerable being by themselves at night. Poor, poor men.
I was skeptical as I started reading this substance. However, your points are valid and thought out. Your improvements are as well. My belief is that this has to start on the local levels. These children need strong role mentors who have shared experiences so they can have shared outcomes.
The crisis is all the podcasters telling them they are the victims of women, libs, brown people & the LGBT community.
If they weren't nasty entitled jerks, they wouldn't be so lonely.
Trump is a lonely man also. Raping women and paying for sex with children for much of his life.
Some young men, not all young men but nevertheless the matter should be explored.
They need to pull their heads out of their phones and butts, stop expecting that they are entitled bc their demographic has always come out on top, and start trying to be more likable, humane, and empathetic. Maybe smile more.
Nobody wants to hang out with assholes, so clearly assholes are the real victim here. /s
i wanted to read this but it is still full of the excuses of expectations
Adam, imo, some of these parents, teachers, people of authority in these young people’s lives have lied to them. They have been raised believing they are better than their black, brown, etc., counterparts. They believe they are superior. When reality hits these young men, they lose it. My opinion.
Jesus Christ, men are lonely so they think the guy who forces himself on women and girls is their god???
Why don't other countries have the same issues? Young men have similar issues, some much worse, all over the world. Is it our obsession with looking tough? Obsession with guns? Young women have many issues they are dealing with, and yet, they aren't as violent or angry.
It's the "Make my Day" syndrome that is a peculiarly American affliction.
Good analogy.
Why is this only a USA problem?
How are young women not affected then? When they have to also deal with being sexualized, harassed, and constantly judged too.
I think it might go back to the differences in how we are raised because the lonely guys are falling down online rabbit holes that turn most lonely girls off due to the extreme language of misogyny. The girls have groups that embrace shame and self harm butt men’s groups are about entitlement rage.
I wonder if girls are just better at critical thinking. As a survival thing.
It is a “crisis” of their own making. No woman owes a man attention. What these people want are essentially sex slaves. They can do the work, improve themselves, and make themselves dateable. We should not reward them for being horrible people.
No, but we do need to solve the problem with empathy rather than apathy. It’s growing because the online web of connection to spread their rageful bad ideas is vast.
There used to be other men that helped them with that...they were called fathers! Maybe men should get to fixing that.
Democrats need to address this. 10,000,000 young men no longer looking for work, or companionship. We lost the young male minority vote in 2024, we must do better and provide an answer to the toxic masculinity online space.
Agreed...men had better hurry and fix this!
Courting ineptitude helps no one. They need the consequences their behavior deserved. That's how children learn.
I understand wanting to hurt the voters who elected these MAGA facist. However you can’t win a national election without the male aged 18-30 vote. I want to win, and use that power to dismantle the facist power grab of MAGA.
A bandaid slapped on without washing with soap and water first, often leads to infection. Go back to the beginning, wash properly and the results will be a good outcome.
I can agree with that. The time to start washing and cleaning the wound and a now.
Now it's not that easy and you need antibiotics and to pay for Cipro. And if you don't do that, you'll need surgical debridement. We're damn close to debridement.
And the cause of this problem is teaching men that they have a golden phallus that takes care of all their problems. So maybe the antibiotic is to force them to adult.
They are choosing this lifestyle, no one is rejecting them. These incels and lazy asses are not victims.
That’s probably true, but demeaning malting them won’t help get their vote. If you want to win and get rid of the facist in the White House, you need their vote.
Just democrats? Republicans have no stake? Hmmm.
They’re running towards Republicans because they’re telling them what they want to hear. We can move slightly to the center and get their votes. We can’t win an election without the male aged 18-30 vote.
We need to keep trolling and ridiculing trump-make him so absurd and toxic that these man-babies will step away when they see trump is actually a hindrance to getting laid. And also start talking to them about how much money they'll need to support the baby they'll be forced to have if do get laid!
Yes I’ve been saying this! As a mother of 18 and 22 year old sons, I’ve heard from them that they see this amongst their peers! I can speak from months of protesting in our community we see these young men drive by, they are ragingly angry! Spewing vile profanity and hate while cheering for Trump!