Not just just 'splash paint on' .. they threw stuff (maybe just 'paint', maybe more) into the engines of RAF aircraft that they had specifically targeted in order to wreck the aircraft.
Not just just 'splash paint on' .. they threw stuff (maybe just 'paint', maybe more) into the engines of RAF aircraft that they had specifically targeted in order to wreck the aircraft.
You were a shit Doctor Who
How awful that someone threw paint onto the flying death machines
In what way is a refuelling tanker a 'flying death machine'?
Alright, Brain of Britain, what do you think they're used to refuel?
And?
That's criminal damage. Not terrorism
Read the definition perhaps? www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/t...
u keep going on about definitions but refused to engage when it was pointed out mandela was designated a terrorist. this is the problem with proscription. the state defines terrorism & when applying the term for such things it sets a dangerous precedent
forget that the actions of palestine action were good for a second, that must surely give u pause for thought. but it wont, because ur evidently a lickspittle bellend who doesnt give a shit about things that dont directly affect u
But you have no problems with war planes being used to murder Palestinian children.🤷♂️You need a moral compass.
Meanwhile, let's return to reality, and you can explain to us how the RAF and those planes did that?
Haha yeah if I were in your shoes in this conversation I'd try and move the topic along as well, you've really shown yourself up here as a Putin-esque authoritarian with your comments.
I think you have more of a problem with military security if you can disable the raf with a can of paint rather than the threat of a 83 year old pensioner hiding hamas in her handbag
I have a huge problem with the way UK security has been defunded to the point of demoralisation and ineffectiveness .. the fact saboteurs can so easily infiltrate an RAF base and disable two refuelling aircraft is a prime example. Russia's 'useful idiots' celebrating it is just icing on the cake
The British defence industry supplies parts and arms to Israel you utter idiot.
You really need to do some research about the role of the RAF and the base in Cyprus. The “ reality” is you don’t give a toss about Palestinian children. I wonder why that is?
And that role is what?
I don't think I've ever seen anything as pathetic as this small man crying over paint anD mAYbE sOmeTHing eLse" on a plane. Honestly, an ounce of self respect would change your fucking life like you wouldn't believe.
How about something as pathetic as ... let's think .. a gaggle of Russia's 'useful idiots' trying to justify saboteurs attacking a UK RAF base because 'far away foreign war'.
Not really "foreign" since the UK is a key logistical, intel and financial supporter of Israel, and not really a "war" when carried out against stateless civilians living under foreign military occupation. Other than that, great post 👍
It's a war between Iran (using it's proxy in Palestine) and Israel. Last time I looked at a map, neither of those countries were the UK, or even in Europe .. which is pretty much the definition of foreign countries and far away.
Palestine isn't an Iranian proxy, and even if it was it isn't a state, and even if it was Israel isn't waging war against it, it is shooting and starving civilians en masse.
Israel does not claim to be in a state of war with Palestine, since that would require them to do things such as follow the Geneva conventions and other Rules of War. Israel doesnt want to implicitly recognise Palestine as a state, so is very careful to not use the term "war" to describe its actions
Oh dear lord. It’s between Israel and Palestine. Is Iran the big bad bogey man?
Y'see it's much harder to defend what is Israel is doing to Palestine, which is the most blatant and gruesome, instance of genocide since Rwanda, so in order to excuse Israel's behaviour (as well as justify authoritarian police state tactics) he's lying and saying it's Iran that Israel is fighting.
Even if you were right, military property is always a legal target under international law regarding terrorism. That's why ISIS attacking recruitment centers was never terrorism, despite the civilian-facing nature of those centers.
I live in Dublin and I think the fact that genocide Keith and Cooper are being paid by defence companies and militant zionists in the labour party explains why i am not a terrorist in Dublin but would be in London
Sorry, do you mean this perfectly operational plane? 🤪 www.thenational.scot/news/2528463...
Graffiti - the new 'terrorism'.
How do the boots taste
I certainly triggered the propaganda bots didn't I? They appear to be stamping their troll boots at me in abject fury that I dated to express an opinion they didn't want to hear ..
hey Pete, you never did explain how Putin forced Boris Johnson to write all those anti-EU articles in the 90s, or made the Lib Dems demand an EU referendum in 2008 I'm all ears, please educate us
Are they bots or trolls? Make up your mind!
A mix of both, if you want to be pedantic about terminology.
Both, if you want to be pedantic about terminology. Look at their posts.
Was that worth posting twice?
Lmaoooo
What mine? Who am I doing propaganda for exactly?
An army of robotic trolls that Putin designed himself
A combination of the two! Trots! Oh no! 😮
🤣
Bots? Or real people who combine several of their interests (attacking genocide supporters, resisting authoritarianism, laughing at pathetic little men) by making fun of you and your weak defense of fascism?
You don’t even have a profile banner or bio. Your claim that you “triggered the propaganda bots” is an accusation in a mirror. Fuck off back to twitter.
Bots are angry at you? I'm not sure you actually understand what a bot is. They don't have emotions, you daftie.
Ah I loved you in All Creatures Great and Small, why do they always turn out to be dickheads in real life?
Deter Pavieson
* 'dared to express'
Nah mate, you just made yourself look like a bell end and when you were called out you switched rails I'd tried to make out you're somehow "winning". You're just sad.
What abject fury? We are half baffled, half amused by you, Peter.
It was a protest designed to highlight British compliance with genocide in Palestine. If it also actually stopped some planes from flying to commit genocide, then that's surely a good thing? Genocide is a bad thing, you get that, right?
You're saying this like it's a bad thing: aircraft deserve to be wrecked. Weapons of war should be destroyed.
won't someone think of those poor planes, it's bad enough that they know they're being used in a genocide, and now PAINT too
'used in a genocide'? Look at a map. Israel and Palestine are next to next other. Do you seriously believe refuelling tankers are required to fly from Israel to Palestine? WTAF?
ok
Peter - you seriously need to watch/read Matt Kennard’s work on the UK’s active and significant role in the genocide. The people of Cyprus were really angry when they found out about it.
Oh no, not the planes :( :( :( :(
Planes owned by a hedge funded that were flying again 2 days later. Would you have had the same opinion of the Suffragettes, the Poll Tax and Corn Law rioters? How about the Tolpuddle Martyrs?
Since when is the RAF 'a hedge fund'? And the military repairing planes by replacing wrecked engines is a thing, right? And the suffragettes, poll tax and corn were about things in the UK .. not a faraway war between other countries?
Just checking, but how about the Suffragettes, the Poll Tax and Corn Law rioters? How about the Tolpuddle Martyrs?
Remind me .. were those in the name of situations in the UK .. or in the name of far away wars in foreign lands?
Remind me....is genocide less of an issue if it's not here?
Just checking, but how about the Suffragettes, the Poll Tax and Corn Law rioters? How about the Tolpuddle Martyrs?
Millions of £ of damage claimed, rapid repair, wow
How much do you think aircraft engines cost? How long do you think it takes to replace an engine on a plane?
bsky.app/profile/jdpo... Thoughts?
reports are, back in the air in days
A war of oppression that our planes, military know how, intelligence, training are being used to enable. It is our business, and has been ever since the British held the Mandate in the interwar period & laid the ground for the Israeli state. Colonialism has consequences.
Exactly, why are planes owned by a private hedge fund on an RAF base? And do you believe we should only care about things that directly affect us? I presume you think Ghandi and Mandela should still be classed as terrorists
The planes are an example of critical state functions and assets being outsourced (PFI, cf. our NHS). Death by privatisation. It's an indicator of how corrupt the UK has become. Crews are RAF. Mandela? Are you seriously trying to conflate the UK with apartheid era South Africa?
Tbf, both the UK government and the apartheid regime in South Africa would imprison people for supporting Palestine, so the comparison is apt.
I am illustrating how some people seem to approve of all protests except for the current ones
Are you seriously saying that people who oppose the UK participating in an ongoing genocide are terrorists?
I'm saying 'the law defines people infiltrating RAF bases to sabotage RAF planes as that'. The response to me daring to point that simple fact out has been .. unsurprising.
The planes weren't owned by the RAF, so the 'crime' was criminal damage.
Read the legal definition of terrorism. As for the planes .. they are leased by the RAF, flown by RAF crews, used by operationally by the RAF and were stationed on an RAF base. So the 'but not RAF' is a feeble excuse.
The one that states ‘…violence or intimidation or coercion of populations of governments’
That is UN guidance .. I referred to UK law www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/t...
Yet those that have defined terrorist acts, don’t believe Palestine Action should be classed as a terrorist organisation
The only similar case to this was the Fairford Five and they were charged with criminal damage. What's the difference?
Legal changes aside .. and the fact that was an attack on US military assets, not UK military assets .. the main difference is that close on 25 years have passed the world has changed and we now have a resurgent Russia (allied with Iran, N Korea, China) openly trying to destabilise Europe.
Of whom starmer defended one, successfully.
There is no legal definition of terrorism.
At least that’s what I just heard on Novara live. Feel free to correct me Peter and tell us all how non violent actions meet the criteria.
Yes. We directly aid a genocidal, Apartheid regime. Directly. Have you read any of Matt Kennard’s findings on this? Do you know who he is?
He’s a stellar journalist. You should have a listen or a read. Seriously.
Love that you have to pretend there is some ambuguity about what they threw just to begin to justify the government doing fascism.
Let Coldwar Steve help you out a bit, Peter. (On the other hand, maybe not, cos you might take this literally. )
If paint "wrecks" military planes then they are not suitable for purpose. Hell, why use expensive missiles when I can use paint bombs instead to down enemy aircraft
"He canna see man!"
How do you think your car engine would perform after someone pouring paint into its internals? Think of a plane engine as a very high performance car engine .. but with an engine failure being catastrophic for the flying plane.
Did they open the oil filler cap and pour it in? Did they pour it into the fuel tank? If not the shut up you raasclaart
They did the military a public service. They exposed the flaws in security. They should be awarded medals