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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

pulling the full text over so that it can be admired in all its glory by those who are accountless cremieux and hanania were both originally scott stans, coincidentally

aug 25, 2025, 6:08 pm • 195 15

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☀️ Starshine @starshine.bsky.social

Federal law that censors their names for any users within an hour of them waking up

aug 31, 2025, 9:07 am • 3 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

here, have this snippet from a conversation i had earlier today

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aug 31, 2025, 9:09 am • 4 0 • view
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Orual @nonbinary.computer

oh boy I missed you originally posting this. good lord if I wasnt already thoroughly done with Scott, that response to Gusev would have done it.

aug 30, 2025, 6:48 pm • 6 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

i am definitely trying to keep all the receipts together for a reason, i realized my previous "lol fucking scott" stuff ended up being redundant and made it hard to drive the point home

aug 30, 2025, 6:51 pm • 5 0 • view
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Jesse Raber @jraber.bsky.social

The vibes have been rancid from the beginning, it was very frustrating trying to get people to see this in like 2013

aug 30, 2025, 10:42 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

my strong feeling is that any particular community norm around communication is abusable. if you bar outright insults you just allow the gish gallop and the just-asking-questions as forms of aggression. all moderation requires judgement, and people saying they are just enforcing rules are lying

aug 25, 2025, 6:09 pm • 164 18 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

it is noteworthy, also, that this has been going on for over a decade now. this is not a difficult to spot pattern. basically some views (ie, Scott's) get a lot more leeway and shielding than other views (ie, anyone who disagrees with Scott's view too much) bsky.app/profile/valk...

aug 25, 2025, 6:15 pm • 83 2 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

eg, " in conclusion, this is obviously pseudocientific propaganda, and it is so bad that nobody should respect you or anything you say ever again. you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of statistics or even the concept of empiricism." almost certainly over the line

aug 25, 2025, 6:18 pm • 69 3 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

you have to admire the level of art that went into saying it indirectly, though. it's an art form. he is very good at it bsky.app/profile/sent...

aug 25, 2025, 6:26 pm • 76 2 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

posting absolute pseudoscientific trash repeatedly: not bannable saying "this is absolute trash": probably bannable

aug 25, 2025, 6:37 pm • 82 2 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

some emails from 2014 which really raise the question: is it really a coincidence that you're super cozy with various neoreactionaries on your blog

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aug 25, 2025, 6:55 pm • 71 4 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

necroing thread to attach this part. i guess this is now a "why i see scott primarily as a neoreactionary ideologue with a progressive aesthetic" megathread bsky.app/profile/mutu...

aug 30, 2025, 6:42 pm • 52 4 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

my "reading scott's leaked emails closely" thread bsky.app/profile/segy...

aug 30, 2025, 6:57 pm • 38 1 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

rationalwiki archive in case it changes or goes away later. archive.is/202506121945...

aug 30, 2025, 7:08 pm • 25 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

"jewish racial superiority" blog posts one: slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/26/t... two: slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/29/f... three: slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/30/h... four: www.astralcodexten.com/p/contra-smi...

aug 30, 2025, 7:08 pm • 28 0 • view
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(((Asa Zernik))) @asazernik.bsky.social

How has rationalwiki avoided going off summer ideological deep end for so long?

aug 30, 2025, 10:07 pm • 2 0 • view
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missingjigsaw.bsky.social @missingjigsaw.bsky.social

Posting this just in case you haven't seen it, I think it's a pretty good analysis of Alexander's rhetorical strategies.

aug 30, 2025, 7:07 pm • 8 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

def belongs in the thread in its entirety, thx

aug 30, 2025, 7:17 pm • 2 0 • view
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✨110% Unbiased ✨ @scipie.bsky.social

I wonder how many people who read him like reading those long winded cooking blogs before you get to the recipe. There’s a small recipe of something (might not be tasty) inside a massive amount of tangentially related nonsense.

aug 30, 2025, 7:32 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

the digressions are kind of the point, they're all interesting things when he's not being too defensive. and he can hide the main point anywhere in there

aug 30, 2025, 7:35 pm • 3 0 • view
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waning gibbous sampler @waningibbous.bsky.social

I mean this is the pretty straightforward implication of the leaked emails + that whole cohort's obsession with Leo Strauss right?

aug 30, 2025, 6:46 pm • 3 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

yes. i mostly like aggregating examples because it demonstrates that it's a sort of systemic problem and not a slant he sometimes injects, tbh. it is absolutely pervasive in his writing

aug 30, 2025, 6:50 pm • 2 0 • view
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Gavin (who is back in town) @11mmyjohns.bsky.social

I have read all of this, but also all you need is the last sentence “the garbage doesn’t matter because I can tune it out.” Scott Alexander, and a lot of people who remain on x dot com the social networking service, believe this (incorrectly, in my opinion) to be true of themselves.

aug 25, 2025, 7:43 pm • 9 2 • view
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River_Tam @rivertam.bsky.social

Yes but also the NRxers taught him lots of interesting world war 2 facts, he just tuned out the bad ones

aug 30, 2025, 7:39 pm • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

the main fact was apparently "churchhill should have allied with hitler" after you follow the sourcing

aug 30, 2025, 7:43 pm • 3 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

That's a little unfair. You're allowed to very bloodlessly provide extensive citations as to why it's trash while carefully tiptoeing around implying any bad faith on the part of the trash poster, after which you will be shouted down by people engaging in unambiguously non-bannable behavior.

aug 25, 2025, 6:47 pm • 19 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

yeah, i am forbidden from having long-term memory or from drawing conclusions about the person themselves or their process for choosing information to post

aug 25, 2025, 6:49 pm • 24 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

I remain embarrassed that it took me as long as it did to notice, but the "as long as it did" I'm embarrassed by is like three or four months and meanwhile some of these clowns are a decade into performing the same ritual argument verbatim every week or two.

aug 25, 2025, 7:00 pm • 9 0 • view
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Mutual A @mutual-a.bsky.social

look can you really adjust your credence for A given B? who's to say

aug 30, 2025, 6:30 pm • 5 0 • view
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repetitiveuser.bsky.social @repetitiveuser.bsky.social

All words are exclusively in a vacuum

aug 26, 2025, 1:34 am • 2 0 • view
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Kronos @progressiveknife.bsky.social

damn it you beat me to it

aug 25, 2025, 6:42 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

It's a bog standard (if characteristically verbose) restatement of the paradox of tolerance. Absolutely unimpeachable progressive logic, so long as you're not allowed to interrogate too deeply into which politely stated views are and aren't antisocial crank bullshit.

aug 25, 2025, 6:36 pm • 4 0 • view
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Keith (Dakota reunification advocate) @mosheroperandi.bsky.social

"I think flinging insults at interlocutors is a different kind of violation than positing ethnic genetic differences" counts as "indirect"??? That was the point I went

aug 25, 2025, 6:36 pm • 6 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

they're just positing it. it's a totally harmless postulate. etc. yes, this is relatively indirect

aug 25, 2025, 6:38 pm • 5 0 • view
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Unknown Etiology @viralpersistence.bsky.social

it’s interesting, this was in 2018 so maybe they’ve since fallen out but this person at least at one point was heavily socially connected with a certain former vox writer who now works at the argument

aug 30, 2025, 9:49 pm • 1 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

no she was still defending him early this year. other than being nice to him specifically she seems fine to me.

aug 30, 2025, 9:51 pm • 1 0 • view
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embracebecoming.bsky.social @embracebecoming.bsky.social

I cannot imagine willingly interacting with those tedious racist dorks.

aug 30, 2025, 9:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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embracebecoming.bsky.social @embracebecoming.bsky.social

I would rather attack my own knees with a hammer than navigate Siskand's ranking of what kinds of rank bigotry are and are not subjects for civil debate.

aug 30, 2025, 9:26 pm • 0 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

and this too filters who is there

aug 30, 2025, 9:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

"The left makes bad counterarguments" also gets *way* too much evidentiary weight in those circles; they've been citing that Richard Lynn "national IQ" meta-analysis for years and feeling shored up by seeing ...

aug 25, 2025, 6:18 pm • 19 0 • view
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Mutual A @mutual-a.bsky.social

see also nathan robinson's response to scott from back in the day and him being incredibly selective about which voices on the left he chooses to engage with www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/03...

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aug 30, 2025, 6:35 pm • 27 1 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

Peak Nathan Robinson moment tbh

aug 30, 2025, 6:38 pm • 9 0 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

A fun project that I don’t have time for would be to read like 100% of Classic Scott (probably what, 2014-2020?) count all of the figures he cites, quotes, names, and then figure out if any of them are anything other than white.

aug 30, 2025, 6:40 pm • 11 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

things that an llm can plausibly automate much or all of the work of for 200 alex

aug 30, 2025, 6:54 pm • 7 0 • view
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Muireall Prase @muireall.space

Titotal did something like this for his book reviews. titotal.substack.com/p/the-walled...

A pie chart titled
aug 30, 2025, 8:28 pm • 4 0 • view
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Muireall Prase @muireall.space

Ah, well.

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aug 30, 2025, 8:31 pm • 3 0 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

Welp

aug 31, 2025, 4:55 am • 1 0 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

Shoutout to Titotal

aug 31, 2025, 4:55 am • 1 0 • view
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Mutual A @mutual-a.bsky.social

when hes good hes good

aug 30, 2025, 6:39 pm • 5 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

...weak-sauce counters along the lines of "there's no such thing as intelligence" or "all tests are culture-biased" without ever digging in and noticing stuff like "clinical sample with malaria"

aug 25, 2025, 6:19 pm • 13 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

there are some actually-good refutations of it floating around now, but I don't recall seeing anything that really dug in until the last few years - the nazis have had a long time to propagandize in those circles

aug 25, 2025, 6:20 pm • 10 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

scott managed to refrain from outright endorsing lynn until this year i think. his people love lynn but he personally knew to keep his hands clean. i assume he's totally audience captured now tbh

aug 25, 2025, 6:21 pm • 14 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

i also really like the more general arguments because they are, well, more general. if someone cites lynn they're a crank idiot, period. if someone goes digging through The Bell Curve and decides to defend literally every thing said in that book, the general principles are required

aug 25, 2025, 6:22 pm • 10 0 • view
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dawnlight melody (⏸️🤖,⏩🏳️‍⚧️) @dawnlightmelody.bsky.social

him making that endorsement post directly caused my break with rationalism lmao

aug 30, 2025, 9:32 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

i remember this and it left a strong impression on me

aug 30, 2025, 9:33 pm • 1 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

yeah - the whole atittude toward it is weirdly anti-scientific and incurious; "this entire nation is, on average, clinically mentally retarded" is an outrageous claim which you should be seeking much more data to either refute or investigate the cause of, and instead they lean on crap studies with..

aug 25, 2025, 6:23 pm • 9 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

...obvious problems and tiny sample sizes to support it and continue on their merry way acting like they treat it as a dogmatically established fact that they know and the terrible liberals are ignorant of

aug 25, 2025, 6:24 pm • 10 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

it's such incredibly obviously motivated reasoning, man

aug 25, 2025, 6:25 pm • 9 0 • view
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thene @thene.bsky.social

the Stat piece from last year was fantastic Journals should retract Richard Lynn's racist 'research' articles | STAT share.google/lfbUBaPqc1nn...

aug 25, 2025, 6:34 pm • 4 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

Yeah, that's one of the ones I was thinking of. Non-surveilled link: www.statnews.com/2024/06/20/r...

aug 25, 2025, 6:35 pm • 4 0 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

adversarial disciplines, baby!

aug 25, 2025, 6:29 pm • 1 0 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

"why can't we just write a set of well-defined community rules that forbid bad behavior while leaving a flourishing space for productive discussion?" *thousand yard stare* *takes a swig of something that is pretending to be whiskey but is actually oversteeped tea* "son, have you heard of 'war'?"

aug 25, 2025, 6:31 pm • 4 0 • view
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rain 🌦️ @sunshowers.io

People get REALLY REALLY mad when you explain that moderation, like most things in life, does not function purely with bright-line rules and requires judgment and skill

aug 25, 2025, 8:22 pm • 6 0 • view
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westside flop sheeven 🏳️‍🌈 @sheev.calamitousintent.com

🔥

aug 30, 2025, 7:12 pm • 1 0 • view
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eva (^_^)/ @eva.computer

it can also cause long term impacts to culture as a whole japan banning certain types of porn is why tentacles are such a big thing now banning certain forms of expression never bans the expression itself, it just mutates to take a different form

aug 25, 2025, 7:45 pm • 6 1 • view
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Kronos @progressiveknife.bsky.social

On forums and in (normal) social groups you simple ban or don't invite people with bad vibes. It works surprisingly well. Of course if you're suffering from the whole Geek Social Fallacy thing at scale suddenly you're the bad guy for saying somebody sucks shit.

aug 25, 2025, 6:42 pm • 4 0 • view
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ai liker @avengingfemme.bsky.social

coming around to your view on nuclear signposting bc i think Scott absolutely deserves every ounce of vitriol we could muster and i don’t even care if that has undesirable second order effects

aug 25, 2025, 6:46 pm • 12 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

yeah that is. uh. a significant part of who i am annoyed gets deference he does not deserve

aug 25, 2025, 6:48 pm • 9 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

and in fact: i think the rationalist default norm for politeness is to a large degree his norm, and was crafted specifically to work for him. so what is/isn't considered very impolite is just systematically skewed

aug 25, 2025, 7:08 pm • 21 1 • view
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dawnlight melody (⏸️🤖,⏩🏳️‍⚧️) @dawnlightmelody.bsky.social

yeah i think the rationalist community had seeds of this norm back when lesswrong started, but it also had the seeds of other norms, and scott bears most of the blame for this one being the one to take hold

aug 30, 2025, 6:27 pm • 9 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

oh hey haven't seen you in a bit i have gotten in like. four fights about this exact issue this week. sometimes being an asshole is good actually

aug 30, 2025, 6:28 pm • 6 0 • view
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dawnlight melody (⏸️🤖,⏩🏳️‍⚧️) @dawnlightmelody.bsky.social

yeah i've been offline mostly, trying to focus on self-care and actually doing things i almost dropped the sasha gusev links in a channel of rationalists lol

aug 30, 2025, 6:40 pm • 7 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

scott is high prestige and it is low prestige to disagree too strongly with scott. sad

aug 30, 2025, 6:44 pm • 6 0 • view
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dawnlight melody (⏸️🤖,⏩🏳️‍⚧️) @dawnlightmelody.bsky.social

indeed. my hesitation was more uncertainty about whether this would hurt the cause of trying to make the rationalists actually rational in the long run

aug 30, 2025, 6:46 pm • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

it's a good cause and i respect it. it's just, ah, also depressing that scott's personal prestige is so much of the glue of rationalism

aug 30, 2025, 6:47 pm • 4 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

nothing says rationality like epistemic suicide by hero worship

aug 30, 2025, 9:12 pm • 6 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

it is one of a few core failure modes that just seem absolutely endemic

aug 30, 2025, 9:15 pm • 6 0 • view
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dawnlight melody (⏸️🤖,⏩🏳️‍⚧️) @dawnlightmelody.bsky.social

update: i made the post, had a spirited argument, and i think shifted folks marginally in my direction. progress!

aug 30, 2025, 9:10 pm • 9 0 • view
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Orual @nonbinary.computer

hell yes

aug 30, 2025, 9:15 pm • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

people seem persuadable these days, i might do a longform about this stuff at some point

aug 30, 2025, 9:12 pm • 5 0 • view
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dawnlight melody (⏸️🤖,⏩🏳️‍⚧️) @dawnlightmelody.bsky.social

would recommend!! rationalists do genuinely have the virtue of being willing to listen to people with ideas they consider strange. indeed, that's where this whole problem started

aug 30, 2025, 9:15 pm • 5 0 • view
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ai liker @avengingfemme.bsky.social

on reflection i think you’re right i think perhaps a default non-hostility and openness is good but there should be a social retaliation mechanism when people act in bad faith, not the endless ongoing deference that tpot/rat diaspora tends towards.

aug 25, 2025, 7:26 pm • 5 0 • view
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Orual @nonbinary.computer

yeah. landed on more or less that. default be nice, etc. but T1 rudeness from Gusev's reply to scott ("Richard Lynn was right" type shit) is a significantly worse violation of politeness and charity norms than graphically insulting someone specific to their face and should be treated as such.

aug 30, 2025, 7:07 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

since i am looking at this again: i was thinking "yeah, tit for tat is required" but actually given the high cost of bad information i think it needs to be tit for tat on a relatively unforgiving schedule? and this is in practice what i do

aug 30, 2025, 6:36 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

people can be redeemed but it's like a year+ long moving average of quality with negative quality being upweighted a lot

aug 30, 2025, 6:37 pm • 2 0 • view
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Doll @dollspace.gay

Forgiving tit for tat *is* a dominant strategy

aug 31, 2025, 9:22 pm • 1 0 • view
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repetitiveuser.bsky.social @repetitiveuser.bsky.social

The one thing I really love about blue and Twitter WAY BACK is that you could be the moderator of your own shit and your entire justification could be FUCK YOU YOU'RE ANNOYING FUCK OFF.

aug 26, 2025, 1:33 am • 0 0 • view
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Vincent Carchidi @vcarchidi.bsky.social

This is going to sound like an insult, but it's not (well, not necessarily): when I read this shit, I feel like I'm in high school again

aug 25, 2025, 7:34 pm • 8 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

yeah uh i would rather ignore the entire clown show but it turns out it's important

aug 25, 2025, 7:35 pm • 6 0 • view
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your #3 source for absurdist true crime 🔨 @davidgerard.co.uk

of all the abysses to gaze into, why did i pick this one

aug 31, 2025, 9:17 am • 3 0 • view
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andrewtheblueskier @andrewtheblueskier.bsky.social

What a low info-density. Only the last paragraph or two were needed.

aug 25, 2025, 6:36 pm • 15 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

oh that's a good observation. i think you could measure this to figure out when he's lying

aug 25, 2025, 6:37 pm • 22 0 • view
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andrewtheblueskier @andrewtheblueskier.bsky.social

A big clue is how much of the early text is loaded with nonspecific cliches about generic pandemonium and death threats, reasonable controlled discussion as the alternative and so on. It's junk food to set your mood correct for the last paras about the case at hand

aug 25, 2025, 6:42 pm • 4 0 • view
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andrewtheblueskier @andrewtheblueskier.bsky.social

He was a yapper even when I liked him the one time tbf but the placement is indicative

aug 25, 2025, 6:43 pm • 3 0 • view
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Alon (they/them) @alonlevy.bsky.social

He's always like this, I don't think it says anything about whether he's lying. He has a knack for turning a thought that could be expressed in three 280-character tweets into a blog post of 5,000 words.

aug 25, 2025, 6:41 pm • 15 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

i do think he waxes way, way more poetic when he is refusing to state the point he is making directly

aug 25, 2025, 6:44 pm • 19 0 • view
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Alon (they/them) @alonlevy.bsky.social

He does, but he also never makes a direct point, even when he says something random about statistics.

aug 25, 2025, 7:59 pm • 7 0 • view
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your #3 source for absurdist true crime 🔨 @davidgerard.co.uk

the questionable shit is near the end of the second 5,000 words and the closest he gets to a smoking gun is in the comments some of which he hastily deletes two weeks later lol

aug 31, 2025, 9:16 am • 2 0 • view
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Advadnoun @adverb.bsky.social

Lol the codex dude is fucking horrible. Gwern-esque levels of idiocy around IQ -- both are basically scientific racists.

aug 31, 2025, 11:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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fffanatic06 @fffanatic06.bsky.social

for a guy who hates post modernism this dude sure talks in circles like them

aug 25, 2025, 6:21 pm • 9 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

he learned from the best

aug 25, 2025, 6:23 pm • 3 0 • view
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Kevin Bird @stairwaytokevin.bsky.social

What’s crazy/hilarious is Lasker was too racist for even the SSC subreddit and was a driver of the creation of the even-more-of-a-cesspit /r/TheMotte

aug 31, 2025, 9:22 am • 6 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

he then got banned from it. and then he got banned from their off-site migration after they left reddit. he was a one-man moderation nightmare

aug 31, 2025, 9:23 am • 5 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

no matter how mask off you are allowed to go, he wants to take off like four extra masks. he prefers that you directly stare at his bare skull

aug 31, 2025, 9:23 am • 5 0 • view
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Jeff Johnston @koeselitz.bsky.social

“I think that flinging insults at interlocutors is a different kind of violation than positing ethnic genetic differences” - lol, this is always fun. the people whose ethnicities are posited as “different” will obviously be personally insulted!

aug 31, 2025, 6:44 am • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

we decide to simply not consider that

aug 31, 2025, 6:45 am • 3 0 • view
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Barzin @barzin.sanctus.ca

yooo I ain't readin all that

sep 1, 2025, 12:55 am • 1 0 • view
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OODA Stan Acct 🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸🇺🇦 @lampsofgold.bsky.social

Mucho texto aside this reads like a guy who sees woke 2 and is severely coping with what’s to come

aug 25, 2025, 6:29 pm • 10 0 • view
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razorgirl @razorgirl.diy

Jesus Christ. I really enjoyed his early writing, but haven't kept up for 5+ years, and I didn't realize how much he had fallen off

aug 30, 2025, 7:31 pm • 5 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

he used to hide this stuff better :)

aug 30, 2025, 7:32 pm • 5 0 • view
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razorgirl @razorgirl.diy

Yeah, I really wonder whether going back to unsong now, as a not-so-oblivious twenty something, would be a very different experience

aug 30, 2025, 7:33 pm • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

i haven't read it and have no idea, my experience archive diving his other stuff is that he starts out like 80/20 "just a pretty good blogger" vs "i am just asking questions about something that happens to be sort of reactionary-flavored"

aug 30, 2025, 7:34 pm • 5 0 • view
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your #3 source for absurdist true crime 🔨 @davidgerard.co.uk

a pile of sneerers spent like since 2013 tracking Scott's dog whistles for eight years, then in 2021 that email from 2014 leaked which was "HELL YES THE POINT OF SSC IS TO PROMOTE RACE SCIENCE AND NEOREACTION" and we were like, he just emailed it out

aug 31, 2025, 9:15 am • 13 2 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

oh hey bro i was getting ready to put "go through the email line the line and explain what it literally seems to mean" on my todo list since people were saying they had seen it before and not read it carefully

aug 31, 2025, 9:17 am • 3 0 • view
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your #3 source for absurdist true crime 🔨 @davidgerard.co.uk

you would believe how many centrists advocating an SSC article i showed that email that says "THE POINT OF SSC IS TO MAKE YOU MORE RACIST" and they'd go "well i liked *that* article" and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fucking liberals

aug 31, 2025, 9:37 am • 12 1 • view
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your #3 source for absurdist true crime 🔨 @davidgerard.co.uk

it's lke hipsters, nobody hates liberals like a liberal

aug 31, 2025, 9:38 am • 4 1 • view
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Joanna 🏳️‍⚧️ @thegadget.bsky.social

By coincidentally, we mean "end up at the bar that doesn't kick them out the first time they make their views apparent"

aug 25, 2025, 6:54 pm • 8 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

in fairness cremieux did get kicked out, repeatedly. but he also made friends with a bunch of folk and they still sort of like him apparently

aug 25, 2025, 6:56 pm • 7 0 • view
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Joanna 🏳️‍⚧️ @thegadget.bsky.social

"Apparently", taken here in the sense of "it is apparent from the original lessonline 2025 featured invitee list" Removed after a bunch of other people raised a stink, but still.

aug 25, 2025, 7:27 pm • 7 0 • view
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Fluffy Cyborg, IInd of the name @fluffycyborgii.bsky.social

I thought the Scott in question was James C and had a mini-heart attack

aug 25, 2025, 7:28 pm • 3 0 • view
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Dr Potato @sentientpotato.bsky.social

It's wild that essentially you can boil this whole speech down to "it's unreasonable to be even slightly uncivil to unrepentant racist eugenicists" and not a single word of that summary is exaggeration

aug 25, 2025, 6:23 pm • 44 4 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

Gusev's response [1] was worthwhile too: [1] nitter.net/SashaGusevPo...

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aug 25, 2025, 6:13 pm • 36 1 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

Feel fucking embarrassed for ever thinking Alexander made some good points …

aug 25, 2025, 6:25 pm • 13 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

scott's a smart guy and some of his work is timeless. he's gotten dumber. he used to be much much more subtle about inserting his more unpleasant opinions

aug 25, 2025, 6:27 pm • 37 1 • view
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Arfunkel @arfunkel.bsky.social

Do you believe his story about being completely unable to understand Calc 2? It’s really incongruous with all the fawning admiration of his genius.

aug 31, 2025, 10:40 pm • 1 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

having been on both ends of calc 2, i think it really just means he had a bad math background. if you're good at math and understand you're going to be memorizing chunks of formulas, you're fine. if you're not, you may die. traditional weeder course

aug 31, 2025, 11:12 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

tbh i am surprised anyone who struggled for real in calc 2 made it into medical school though

aug 31, 2025, 11:13 pm • 3 0 • view
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Arfunkel @arfunkel.bsky.social

But also it’s a really strong data point that his IQ gang should look at and say: not a genius. (I’m not in the IQ gang.). That’s what I don’t get.

sep 1, 2025, 1:02 am • 1 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

the beauty of iq is that as long as you cling to your iq your actual, proximate failures in the real world aren't real. and if your actual tested iq isn't high maybe it's measurement error because you clearly have the right genes. it's the ultimate cope

sep 1, 2025, 1:18 am • 2 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

i'm sorry if you can't derive that shit on the fly, ngmi :P

aug 31, 2025, 11:21 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

that's just memorizing fewer, better formulae imho

aug 31, 2025, 11:27 pm • 1 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

(I'm actually kinda surprised scott struggled there; he never struck me as exactly a "good at math" person but certainly as "bright enough in general to handle basic shit")

aug 31, 2025, 11:29 pm • 2 0 • view
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Andrea @valkyrie.hacker.gf

I wonder if it's related to the mental block you run into with some programmer types on *continuous* math

aug 31, 2025, 11:30 pm • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

it could be that but imho if you're tolerably-bright and, like, awake in school, calc 2 may be the first time you actually had to exert any effort in math whatsoever. like. you may technically have been an A math student but have never done anything deliberately before then

aug 31, 2025, 11:32 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

someone turning out to be a massive asshat does taint the less suspect takes too (common problem for sure)

aug 25, 2025, 6:30 pm • 9 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

I somehow think this is worse for online stuff. Might be in part a fallacy but feels like it is easier to separate something published as a book from whatever bad takes the author produces in other media or even later books (for example NN Taleb)

aug 25, 2025, 6:37 pm • 7 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

For the record: never about the race science shit! Before noticing that.

aug 25, 2025, 6:27 pm • 3 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

He did make some good points! A handful of original ones and a larger set repackaged into a format that was more readily accessible to a certain neurotype. He also used those good points to smuggle white supremacist talking points to an audience that likely wouldn't have otherwise sought them out.

aug 25, 2025, 7:11 pm • 10 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

Tbh my original feel on randomly bumbling onto slate star codex was ”there is a weird Smell to all of this but the guy makes some good points and Also he uses too many words so I feel embarrassed sharing it”

aug 25, 2025, 7:14 pm • 5 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

The two modal reactions are "everyone here is autistic (derogatory)" and "everyone here is autistic (laudatory), but oh no they're also all nazis".

aug 25, 2025, 7:18 pm • 4 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

now getting the idea that it was weaponized packaging, like some curious inverse of web scams tailored to only work on the most credulous people in existence

aug 25, 2025, 7:17 pm • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

no you got it. the entire scott- and yud-o-verse both filter people, among other things, for tolerating their writing styles and their high-engagement people have a really particular psychological profile

aug 25, 2025, 7:18 pm • 9 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

i think rationalism having so many spinoff cults is multicausal

aug 25, 2025, 7:18 pm • 7 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

There are some leaked private emails where he's incredibly explicit about this, at least with regards to the crap Moldbug was writing at the time. That doesn't technically mean he was doing the same thing with race science but, c'mon, yes it does.

aug 25, 2025, 7:23 pm • 4 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

if it isn't these ones i'd enjoy seeing them, i have a collection in my brain of this stuff bsky.app/profile/segy...

aug 25, 2025, 7:24 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ben Cates @bencates.bsky.social

Yeah, that's the one. Anecdotally the first time I ever heard of NRx was SSC's giant two parter telling me what in retrospect was a carefully chosen subset of the ways in which it was wrong, so it at least worked to disseminate the idea to one extra brain.

aug 25, 2025, 7:37 pm • 4 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

There are some interesting parallels here to our very own edgy-neurodiverse-bloglord-turned-politician Jussi Halla-Aho. Although his Scripta blog (famously quoted by Breivik) was explicitly open to racist stuff. Wikipedia entry has a whiff of Halla-aho apologism en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussi_H...

aug 26, 2025, 4:06 am • 1 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

Relatedly: someone could have a day job in cleaning out the traces of ”race realist” guys writing in Finnish and Finnish-adjacent wikipedia

aug 26, 2025, 4:21 am • 2 0 • view
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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

have heard similar things about norway and sweden

aug 26, 2025, 4:22 am • 1 0 • view
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Fluffy Cyborg, IInd of the name @fluffycyborgii.bsky.social

Once Georges W Bush said "hey it is raining", and he was entirely correct

aug 25, 2025, 7:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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alex williams @atwilliams.bsky.social

its so funny how they only have pretend intellectuals in the bay

aug 31, 2025, 1:03 pm • 3 0 • view