I get Gavin Newsom ain’t ideal. But y’all doing the same thing y’all did with Kamala and it’s going to cost us the midterms.
I get Gavin Newsom ain’t ideal. But y’all doing the same thing y’all did with Kamala and it’s going to cost us the midterms.
Democrats can’t win without the left. You don’t have the numbers. So democrats can either learn that and start compromising with us instead of republicans or keep losing. And we will not vote for anti immigrant anti LGBT bigots. It’s not our fault democrats keep nominating them.
You can’t beat republicans by becoming them. When Dems nominate authoritarian right wing antiLGBT antiimmigrant scum that means THE FAR RIGHT STILL WINS. We haven’t had a president to the left of Reagan since Reagan. In fact Biden & Kamala & Hillary are even farther right than Reagan on immigration
No. DEMOCRATS are doing the same mistakes as w Hillary and Kamala What fucking part of the left will not vote for bigoted right wingers w policy views farther right than Reagan did the DNC not understand? That’s on party leadership not voters. Stop punching down and blame the leaders who got us here
Maybe instead of bitching about why we won’t vote for yet another status quo con artist who’ll drag the party even farther right the democrats should compromise with the left IN THEIR OWN PARTY, return to new deal values instead of bending over for republicans and embracing right wing ideology.
Newsom has nothing to do with the midterms… Also, anybody commenting on his potential presidential candidacy is more premature than DJT finishing with a hooker.
What midterms? 🤣 At this rate, they ain't happening. That's kind of the point. This is not going away with elections. This is not going away with court rulings. They are lawless, they openly flout the law. They'll use the military if necessary. It's a coup or submission at this point.
Exactly, people need to use critical thinking. I love my husband, do we agree on everything..nope its human nature. Also the fence sitters need to choose a side it's BS.
I mean, he's a monster, why do people insist on trying to win within the system rigged to ensure that doesn't happen?
Our concerns as voters simultaneously don't matter and should be ignored because we're such a tiny minority anyway that our votes don't matter but also we have the power to 'cost us the midterms' with our silly nagging about civil liberties. Which one is it?
Costing us the midterms is their objective.
Newsom isn't on the ballot in the mid-terms. Turn out will probably be low because it generally is for midterms. Americans are lazy and apathetic. It won't be driven by Newsom one way or the other.
THIS IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS!LOOK WHAT’S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO MOAN ABOUT NEWSOME?HE IS CALLING TRUMP OUT.HE IS PUSHING BACK BUT NOTHING IS ENOUGH FOR DEM VOTERS AND THAT’s why we lose!FFS.I think you guys are fine w/fascism because you just want to WHINE!
AMEN!!!
Then pick someone who isn't a transphobe or gleefully violent against homeless people. It's literally that easy.
If you decide we're expendable, you deserve to lose the midterms, tbh.
It’s crazy it’s always: “things we are doing to the candidate” and not: “things the candidate did/didn’t do” Cmon
I get the argument here. Anytime anyone posts anything about Newsom, even if it’s ONLY about redistricting (which WILL effect the midterms) the comments are flooded with anti-Newsom sentiment. If anti-Newsom sentiment is equated with the prop, it’s doomed.
And trust me, maga knows this and will feed into the narrative all over social media with their bots and trolls, just like they did during the election. Once again, I’m not saying anything about him as a candidate, I’m strictly talking about him pushing back against Trump/the redistricting prop.
Election is not for 3 years. Newsom’s policies are much worse than other potential candidates. Not the same.
What are you talking about? Gavin is a governor and not the presidential nominee. We don’t have to agree on his greatness. We don’t walk in lockstep like the brain dead Republicans. Chill. We’ve got 3.5 years to decide and I’m far from decided on anyone.
is gavin running for president of the midterms
The way they’re setting him up it seems like it
he's not even running for re-election in California. Literally what does this matter for midterms.
I guess we'll have to see how his star travels. Democrats are a fickle lot and all it takes is pissing off one blue hair extremist to tank your entire campaign that might do some good for the majority of people. Democrats notoriously let the perfect be the enemy of the good
where does his star have to travel for him to matter in the midterms
From these comments it doesn't seem to matter because no candidate is going to be perfect for the parties base and actually be an electible candidate for the middle class majority of the country. At this point we might as well just resign ourselves to Trump's authoritarian rule
Do you know what midterms are
Yes it's where the party members elect the candidate they think can both represent the majority of their party's policy to the best of his or her ability while still being able to win a general election and represent the country as a whole, at least in theory
no it isn't
midterms are congressional elections that occur between presidential elections. you are thinking of primaries.
Somebody else pointed this out and I am corrected I confused my wording I meant that primaries elect the fringes of the parties instead of candidates that can win general elections and represent the majority of the population in general elections like midterms
Democrats have so thoroughly deluded themselves that their milquetoast views are actually radical that they live in perpetual fear of the consequences should they elect someone they actually like, resulting in them constantly voting for people who nobody likes in the primaries
This also is not true
*Extremely Loud Incorrect Buzzer* You just described a primary, midterms are the elections for Congress that happen in the MIDdle of the presidential term.
You are right I confused my answer, doesn't change my answer. Primaries are were Democrats nominate candidates that are supposed to be able to win general elections in the midterms. But unfortunately we only nominate candidates that are popular amongst the Democratic base Was what I intended to say
Newsom has nothing to do with any seat coming up in midterms. Those are for Congress, and he is a governor.
REMEMBER: Many of these "people" are actually ruSSian bots, paid to disrupt/divide. They have fake pfp and bios, seem to be Americans, BUT THEY ARE NOT. They get $600 US/month to post propaganda. The fact that the propaganda of the day is "Newsom bad" is a tribute to how well his mocking works !
“everyone who disagrees with me is a bot” is certainly a strategy, especially when a lot of the people actively speaking out against newsom are trans or otherwise would be affected by newsom policy back to glorious moscow i go!
Good. If the Democratic Party wants to embrace segregation they should lose.
Gavin Newsom is not "not ideal", he's bad. And since he's not currently the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, it's perfectly fine to establish the position that he should not be.
Agreed
And you're not a transsexual or trans+ person. So fuck off.
We should probably nominate someone else
I mean maybe the lesson here is to stop devoting yourselves to people who are fine with bombing kids, stripping trans people's rights, deporting immigrants, and letting billionaires. do whatever the fuck they want with our data and natural resources? Because it seems like they all want to do that.
This is different in that Gavin Newsom is an existential threat to trans people. He floated the idea of no transitions until 25- if the trans people in my life had to wait that long to start the process, they wouldn't be here today. Why should we throw trans people under the bus?
I might agree if there were not alternative potential candidates.
I agree with this
Get fucked
THANK YOU!!!!! They not getting it. What is it to not get?? They’re
It’s those right wing paid trollers
Newsom is the fucking governor of California. He has nothing to do with the midterms other than his Fascist move to suppress votes in California. He is inconsequential in relations to the midterms.
And that’s how oompah loompa grandpa will win his 3 term. Just enough people will vote 3rd party.
I'm just going to leave this here substack.com/@erininthemo...
"If you criticize someone who isn't a member of Congress the people in Congress will lose" Very astute
How is criticizing someone who isn’t running in a midterm going to cost us the midterm?
It would do the opposite, but this guy is really really dumb.
There is no perfect candidate for an election that is almost three years out, not to mention the fact that the current occupant has no interest in leaving. Dictators don't quit. There are many things posted on this forum that we can do NOW! Let's make sure we have more elections.
Those "not perfect" candidates only acceptable for you until they don't whip your ass instead of the transgender folks or the homeless folks or the asylum seekers. The second they would spank you, you wouldn't accept those "imperfect" assholes.
One more thing......NOBODY IS PERFECT!
I lost the thread of this and now am unclear on what you are saying. But, let me say that I have no tolerance for limiting the rights of anyone, whether I agree with them or not. Everyone is entitled to their own life, and it's not my business to judge.Everybody is doing too much judging lately.
Yep.
The presidential election is 3 years away. No one has to be anointed now. Don't be so easy.
Right now they are convinced they can erase history, kill us all and start over again with a blank slate. We really need to set the record straight for future generations who might not get books and education. Secret knowledge bases etc
What we needs do is nothing and when they are done tickling our taint go back to being normal ass humanity
The dems are trying to make us say uncle until we back them bombing the middle east.
Because this is why the Dems helped elect Trump. They are colluding. They are politicians and they are using a dictator to quel and leverage us into whatever next horrible thing they have on tap. They have us by the balls and are going nuts slapping our balls around like weirdos. Pull the wool
Kamala supported genocide. Move left or get no results. Things dont get better by continuing to support the shiniest of two turds
We're three years out man.
I don't vote for people pushing Nazi ideology, no matter what color tie they wear this year. That means that I will not ever vote for a sociopath like Gavin Newsom.
Preach. It's true what's happening. Plus, I voted for Kamala, never hesitated once. We'd be in such a better place.
The only reasonable reaction is to block and ignore these types of people. They are selfish, ignorant, puritanical anarchists who would kill everybody on the planet just to claim some “moral victory” (that isn’t a victory)
People who trash Newsom because they don’t want him to be president, maybe, I dunno, don’t vote for him in 2028?
First of all, Harris had the votes to win and didn't due to corruption. "Y'all" didn't do anything. Second, Gavin Newsom is against human rights for all based on his treatment of the homeless population and throwing trans people under the bus. You don't know wtf you're talking about.
I'm not a fan of Gavin Newsom but I'll tell you right now I'll be in the front of the line to vote for him to get Trump out. At this point I would campaign for Sarah Palin if she was the Democratic candidate fuck I'd campaign for just about anybody in order to get Trump out
There are better choices. Let's focus on Pritzkerinstead. Once people get to know him, he'll catch on.
You're right Newsom is not perfect. But he'd be a winnable candidate and no worse than most politicians But please don't compare him to Harris Harris was a complete loss from the moment she stole the primary election to losing even base voters in only 2 months against a highly unpopular opponent
If you don’t wanna be punched in the face then don’t try to throw Queer people specifically Trans people to the fascist jackals it’s really that simple! Likewise with AI if you don’t wanna be punched in the face, do not help the big tech trump collaborators by using it and your face will be safe!
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The difference is Kamala didn't make homelessness illegal and fight to make it so trans people couldn't use bathrooms.
Yeah f that noise
First, I don’t care who the Dems nominate as long as they beat this GOP. Secondly, understand that there are people, especially on the political extremes, who simply can’t be reasoned with. They don’t understand the concept of binary logic. They always think there’s some imaginary option “C.”
They know that, thats their goal!
From reading comments here and media reports about Dems leaving the party, the midterms already are lost. Unless we can get together to flip the House, democracy is finally dead.
That’s not comparable. Newsom is not running for anything now and he’s an idiot. We get to reject idiots and bigots.
he better get it together then!
Harris never threw out homeless people's belongings, or railed against trans people, or had a cozy chat with Charlie Kirk. Nevermind that Newsom will never survive the scrutiny of a National race. (90s affairs & partying) Newsom is for Newsom and Newsom only. We deserve better.
So true.
maybe he shouldn't veto immigrant protection, ban homeless people and eradicate trans people?
The Democrats lost themselves the election. They’re also the ones who did FUCK ALL for FOUR YEARS to stop what anyone with a brain (and could read) saw coming. Christ on a fucking bike.
Yes it is. Too many showing their "privilege" and signalling that if our cold Civil War turns hot they are going to side with the Felon.
So, if Newsom bans "Black cis men" from sports, you would vote for him? Stop telling trans people to do it. Don't equate him with Mrs. Harris, they aren't the same. And I voted for her, but she wasn't looking to get rid of trans people.
These liberals would turn over the Jews to Hitler if they thought they could win an election.
The liberals in some sections are starting to act and post a lot like maga. They completely stop using logic and having discourse for mocking and jeering like a mob. It's going to be a hellscape for many marginalized people.
They've been called BlueMAGA for a reason. The same cultish behavior towards right-wing assholes who will never do shit for them.
They are indoctrinated into this cult of personality ideal. I hate that these two poles exist. It is hard enough existing in this world without these two factions forming their very own supremacies.
Exactly!! The Democratic base doesn't even see a problem with agreeing with trans segregation policies. I will say this, it took Harris shitting the bed for them to even consider being again the bipartisan supported holocaust in Palestine.
Perfectly said.
They are screaming for segregation in August 2025 ffs! What kind of fucking dipshits do that while demanding everyone shut up and support segregation too?
Big tent my ASS.
Harris was so much better than him. I won't vote for a transphobe, dude. He'll throw us to the wolves to win. We also can't give a dude like him the kind of power that trump has cleared for the president. In telling you I now, Newsome is no good. Let him piss dump off, but he's no hero
*I'm telling you now
In team sports they talk a lot about momentum. We have to work with the people who are showing up. If someone is making a great play and it is hurting the wannabee dictators, cheer! Encourage more of what you like. Inspire others to follow their lead. You don't have to like everything about them.
Nah this newsome shit has nothing to with Republicans winning the midterms. Democrat leadership is gone. Literally non existent. Uncle @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social and collaborator rat @schumer.senate.gov have skipped off to have campaign fund raising events instead of doing fuck all to help us.
It's up to us to get involved at the PARTY level and gut the leadership and replace them AND THE CANDIDATES with folks willing to pull this country back to the Left.
I don’t want him to be president at all, but I do want yall to support his maps. Texas just gerrymandered Houston and I guess I want everyone to vote blue so I get to vote again.
100%
anyone saying 'newsom isnt perfect' owes an explanation why criminalizing homelessness and transness are policies worth supporting
Newsom is everything everyone hates about slimy centrist neo-liberals. If we run on Newsom then we will lose to Trump.
Literally no one is declared against Trump, probably because there's no point unless Dems win midterms. So champion the guy in the ring.
Yes it will
That’s exactly right. They cannot see past their own community to realize their agenda WILL cause a very useful tool to be dulled. Newsom will NOT be prez. Has not even said he’s considering a run. But let’s freak out and concentrate ONLY on HIS HORRIBLE baggage. That CANNOT be the reason we lose!
No it ain't. Trump illegally using the military to intimidate voters will.
Why are we settling for “not ideal” already? Especially when more ideal candidates exist?
It's not the same vibe at all. I voted for Kamala knowing she would be another neoliberal hawk president and was *not* thrilled. If we can't find someone better than that hobocidal/transphobic psycho fuck by then, my broke ass is *swimming* for Europe and y'all can figure it TF out.
Yeah if you all make Gavin the nominee I'm not stopping at not voting, I am fleeing the country and I'm not kidding