Very strange. Even acting like Liverpool and man city regularly used to go away and win against each other in their heyday!
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Very strange. Even acting like Liverpool and man city regularly used to go away and win against each other in their heyday!
Very strange article, more vibes than facts. Disappointing to see.
Not sure about this take Graham, last game was the first time in 23 matches that Arsenal have lost to a big 6 rival. Arsenal's record in those 23 games has been W12 D9 L1. As has been pointed out, we reminded City to "stay humble" last time we met them. Numbers don't appear to support this take.
This was the first thing that came to my mind too if anything comparable! Still, in the context of that game deciding European qualification, it meant more surely?
"Doomed to finish second" That means either Liverpool or Manchester city finish before us. Are those clubs not attacking enough, or have they not spent enough money? What's the excuse there?
Haha yes. And they refuse to buy cbs, love their commitment to playing suicide football
Chelsea would've had to loan him out and still have to pay his wages, like they did with sterling
Martinelli was shutting down salah. If eze came on early and salah scored a goal, everyone would be claiming mikel for being naive. There is no impetuous on arsenal to be the protagonists away from home to their biggest rivals
Do you still think that heat map represents a conservative left back?
Calafiori's heat map - spent more time in Liverpool's half than his own. Isn't this what ppl were saying arsenal players didn't do?
Not just winning at anfield, but winning handsomely while missing 4 key players. Before the I'm sure all these ppl wrote all about how this would be a walkover for arsenal, right? Right guys?
Honestly mate, I'm not being rude, just blunt. I gave you data and you came back with... I dunno what. The age "dig" you tried only looks worse for you, considering your struggles to make a cogent argument past someone you think is 7 yrs old. Give up mate, this isn't twitter.
Lmao, is this really the totality of analysis that can fit inside your head? Such a simple man, I almost feel sorry for you. There is nothing meaningful left to discuss if you cannot understand context.
The only way i have to reconcile this is that every pundit must have been convinced that the Arsenal were so much better than Liverpool that we would've trounced them despite having 4 starters out. Right?
Those are just moments. You think bearing down on goal, eze saw the opportunity to shoot at goal and thought to himself "wait, mikel said be conservative. I'd better go down and look for a pen instead"? Gyo not anticipating ode ball was lack of time spent understanding each other's game.
Ode was just coming back after injury, and Eze has barely trained with the team. To think those 2 would have got us the 3 points in this game is a bit.. hopeful. Martinelli did a great job in shutting down salah and szoboslai while letting calafiori go fwd and create chaos.
I think the overblown part is claiming that slot wasn't defensive but arteta was. Arsenal did play cagey. But I don't see that as a criticism at all. You were away to 1 of your 2 main title challengers. I expect him to do the same away against Manchester city. And I'm fine with that.
We all thought that initially. Then we watched the game where we were playing essentially 4-4-2. I don't get how anyone can look at merino's heat map and call him a DM
Maybe... the opposition were not impressive because we shut them down?
Pro-active? Bro Liverpool have won all of their games in like 85+ minutes. If anything, they way they are paying right now is not sustainable over the season!
Decent analogy, shite analysis. Are you OK bro, you've just replied to a thread from eons past! Reminder to check in on your mental health. I thought arteta had a great game yesterday, just got trumped by a wonder goal!
Think we are overplaying this a bit, all doctors depend on patients to explain symptoms. If patient says it doesn't hurt, how should it be diagnosed (unless it a clean break or visible externally)? Get your concerns, but might be overblown a bit - these things happen. Hope saliba will be alright.
22-23 Arsenal points 84, goals 88 gd +45 Liverpool points 67 goals 75 gd +28 23-24 Arsenal points 89 goals 91 gd +62 Liverpool points 82 goals 86 gd +45 Whatever point you think you are making, data is missing it as well. Exception was last season, when Arsenal were heavily impacted by injuries.
Only the way pgmol run it. They can easily say we will look at it for 30 secs, if we can't find anyrhing wrong, we move on. But they won't. Cus they hate VAR too.
Have you looked at the table before last season though? We did better than Liverpool for 2 seasons before injuries hit.
I think we've had this discussion venue on gabriel. Players want to play these matches. It's not easy to tell Saliba not to play against liverpool, especially when you don't know how bad it is - in many cases only the player knows.
How can you say that? Don't you know emery is a better choice for arsenal than mikel? All the haters say so!
What is this based on?
He's holding his hamstring now. Not saying it wasn't a dive, but injury probably forced him to consider it while he otherwise might not have
Match against top teams tend to be cagey affairs that get broken by a spot of magic. It worked for Liverpool today, another day, rice puts his fk in. Thems the breaks, we congratulate Liverpool on their goal and move on. More often than not, 1 point at Liverpool would've been a solid result.
Striker's finish £130 million for him!
That's why we love football mate, goals can happen anytime and for the most random reasons. We lost, but not because of the tactics.
Without reading the article for context, this sounds like Hendo likes to walk into rakes. And I'm all for that imagery!
There's a lot to be said for how martinelli helped shut out salah and timber took care of gakpo. We focus so much on offensive production, but these guys at trying to win games, not just score the most goals! When playing Liverpool at anfield, keeping it tight is usually a good idea!
1-0 for the next 35 games!
Maybe we needed saka, odegaard and kai?
So... he's saying Liverpool tried to play but were worse than an Arsenal team NOT trying to play? Haters gonna hate imo
I get pundits doing this for clicks, but if you claim to be an Arsenal fan and got this... just maybe pick up a different hobby.
Maybe PL should introduce a "kiss and make up" rule for a dangerous play. Might eradicate red card challenges in a jiffy!
Haha!
I see it differently. I hated how open we were under later arsene and emery. Still have nightmares of kdb in center circle with nobody within 25 yards of him. Under arteta we are serious. Timber was SHOUTING at midfielders for being left 1-on-1 against gakpo. These things make a serious team
I love it. When ppl hate us, it means we are doing something right. It's like when barnardo silva came out and he had more respect for Liverpool after than leo red card. Next match, we smacked them 5-1. Let the haters talk, we'll shut them up on the pitch!
Love it when we rile up our opponents so!
TV commentators say it was for kicking the corner flag, that's got me confused. Is it because it broke or something?
I think we did give it a go, just the fk happened too late for us to react in a sustained manner.
Not a Wirtz problem per se, but I feel having wirtz and ekiteke means that now salah doesn't get the ball as early as he used to. And that affects how Liverpool attack.
Sigh, tell me you've never played football without telling me
I'm not even gonna bother anymore, it's literally like 2 posts away mate!
After breaking the British record for signing the future of German football, as all the pundits told me? Wonder what happened to balloon d'or contender salah, thought he always scored against arsenal?
How much have Liverpool spent and what did those record signings do today?
Salah got shut down by an Italian cb with just 1 cap this year. Liverpool must surely rush him out the club?
Genuinely shocked by some of the reasons, our fanbase seems to think the match was played in London not at Anfield maybe?
If you were an Arsenal fan, you'd never want the club to lose. I don't like telling arsenal fan not to support the club, but if watching football makes you this miserable, then I've got v bad news for you.
Not sure what you expect him to do other than bring on odegaard, eze and dowman?
You don't have to watch "artetaball" if you would rather lose than watch it! Plenty of their great teams to watch out there! We have no divine right to roll over teams, particularly not Liverpool at anfield. Get a grip mate
You are free to give me any stat that proves Liverpool were braver! Shots, touches in the box, anything you like! But it needs to bolster your argument not weaken it. I'll wait.
So you'd take Andoni iraola, who took Bournemouth from 15th to 9th, over mikel who took arsenal from 8th to 2nd? Because he "seems not to be a coward"?
So, you agree with my analysis and still want to continue to build out a narrative? Assuming you are a Liverpool fan, what you are saying is not helping your argument.
Well said, nothing mgrs had lot of respect for each other and a tenacious Dom won the game by playing well in a new position and showing off his quality. That happens.
Even matched up games do go a bit like that, sometimes it's just individual brilliance that wins it. We went into the game without saka, odegaard kai. If we had tried to play we would've been 2 goals down like last year. Or more.
You think Liverpool went for the kill then? How do you explain the xG?
Feels like you are still searching for a narrative, but this take is better than the first! Why not say that both team canceled each other out, and a brilliant free kick won it? Szoboslai had a great game and deserves plaudits for it!
Reapect your opinion, but not sure if it is cowardice to go to Liverpool without saka kai odegaard and try to keep the game tight Philippe! If we had saka and odegaard and we'd played like this then maybe criticism is valid.
Was a decent away performance, we got done by a worldie, could've happened anytime. If we had saka kai and ofegaard, might have been interesting to see if we'd have been more adventurous
Start with shutting down salah and wirtz at anfield?
Who?
Exactly! This was a very solid away from home performance, dunno why our fans feel we should be going to anfield and outplaying Liverpool
Goals and points help... narrative not analysis. If you meant to support my point, then thanks.
Spent 200 million on attackers who did naff all against arsenal missing their best forwards
Or... Liverpool score a fantastic goal kick but did nothing otherwise. Arsenal missing 3 starting attackers. But narratives sell more than analysis, I guess?
Also, complaining that Arsenal are not attacking while missing Saka, Odegaard and Kai is like the most weird complaint to have
Although the way it was scored, difficult to complain much!
YES!! He handles that before Alison has got the ball under control, at least for me
Outstanding free kick.
Outstanding free kick, top be fair
Not even close!
Key not to give up impetus away from home
This is literally what he does at the expense of being more explosive up front that ppl often miss in our system
Not sure if the lineup is as defensive as it is... Press-y. Idea is to get at their defense to push back Liverpool. To think Eze would start v liverpool so soon after joining the club was always a bit fanciful.
Not anymore he ain't. Marc guiu it is. Basket case of a club.
No yellow card for Brighton player booting the ball into stands, but I'm the case of Rice and Leo they had no choice. What a farce
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Interesting how Liverpool fans think their club should treat their players vs how Newcastle should treat isak bsky.app/profile/marh...
Wonder if you agree a certain north east club should do the same with their players?
He was dreaming about the his sweet pay-off vanishing into thin air
How many frames is sustained pulling. Such a clear dive, shocked that amad didn't get a card for it
I've looked at the screen and decided that it's funnier to watch amorim fail for a few more weeks. Penalty United.
I thought after conte they only wanted to play the Hotspur way?
They cannot, he's a trophy winning manager now, automatic disqualification
Used up all their xG against City
However bad they are, Burnley will still need to miss more chances if united are to win this game
Can only imagine they hate the premier as much as amorim hates Manchester united.
Really pathetic that VAR was basically LOOKING for a reason to chalk this off because they know that they have basically given chelsea this game. The PL "product" gets underlined by none more than PGMOL. If they really cared about the "product", they'd scrap PGMOL now.
"Ref 'mispoke' because he didn't go for it explanation claiming noone would buy it" I really wish they would turn the micon during the conversation where the ref is watching the replay on screen
Somehow the explanation made less sense than the decision, it's almost impressive how much refs try to make us hate VAR.
It was neither careless nor a challenge. Wow, impressive how wrong they got it!
Lmao this is some next level copium. Are you sure you are still calm, little bro? I'm not, I'm on the floor laughing right now.
Exactly that foot has to go down somewhere. If anything chalobah has put his foot in there!
Even if we never win a trophy again, you will never catch up with us! Little brother will remain forever in our shadow
Not this one. Regardless, I appreciate your self awareness in realising you are the little bro. That makes you better than 90% of spurs fans. Congrats