This whole thread is a bunch of people fellatiating each other and validating an idea predicated on gross misunderstanding of a topic. When information is incorrect you should say so. How people react to that is usually more about them than the information itself.
It’s really not my problem that two or three people are talking out of their asses on a topic. They’re opinion based in ignorance shouldn’t be treated equally to people who are more educated on a topic.It’s not about them. They’re confident morons. Its about presenting better info for others.
The original example I used is, this is pretty much just the pharmaceutical industry before they passed laws that said you couldnt release products without reporting your data first, and having a review for approval of your product. You understand
Hence why I said it’s a long way off.
Basically, anyone who actually takes the time to read about the foundations of what goes into an AI understands, it’s already everywhere, it’s not going away, but what guys like Musk are doing with it is irresponsible, stupid, and overall a waste of time, resources and potential.
… but people forget that ChatGPT is an AI in the same way that most things that run on machine learning are, but ultimately one is useful and one is a fad, yea. That doesn’t mean the technology as a whole is a fad, or should go away, just how we use it and think of it needs to shift
That’s literally my point. The perception of AI being a fad is predicated directly on people jumping to things like ChatGPT and in that regard I agree, it is. I also feel that that is what most people believe because that’s what rich people want it to be, to mine data, to make more money….
Also I think your kindve not realizing that yes, end of the day a lot of very wealthy people are very good at what effectively is marketing for a broken two party system. We still vote, it used to still matter, Americans are just super easy to influence on large scales. We’re big on “team sports”
It’s not a big secret man. How a nation is designed to function vs how it’s functioning are different. We were more so discussing the current situation less literally and more “in terms of legality, this is what legitimizes that legality and this is what makes it worth casting aside”
You know it’s nice to see people happy in a hard time. Anyways, anyone know of any protests for Labor Day?
I mean I’m no genius for sure, but being ignorant on a topic isn’t the issue. Being condescending and wrong, that’s an issue. He lost the moment he started posting links to finance sites, and just saying no instead of trying to articulate what he felt he was so right on
He was hostile from the moment he was corrected 🤷🏽♂️ I blocked him the moment he wouldn’t get back on topic, because he knew he was wrong and I don’t have the energy to divert to someone that belligerently stupid
Not when they’ve already been implemented in literally every aspect of your life. Machine learning is prevalent. Advanced AIs like ChatGPT? 100% agree but the whole technology group? No, it’s too useful and humans don’t toss useful tools. We just improve them. It just wont be the US
See now that’s a fair arguement as to why it wouldn’t persist in some form at least until we figure out how to mine asteroids and that’s a LONG way off. I agree, it can’t continue in its current form and crypto is literally reinventing the wheel and then using it to scam people lol
… not only is that disgustingly true, but it’s a big reason Palestine is experiencing a genocide. These liberals only took a stand when it involved not voting for a candidate that may have meant better, but not good still for your people and I’m sorry. I’m sorry my country has helped do this.
I’d like to apologize for other Americans. I think there just is a lot of commonality in left leaning ideals of trying to preserve peace but to a detriment when your facing people who don’t believe you should exist. I want a free Palestine and what you said about Americans not having a left? …
Not necessarily the voters, but the people directly harming people I care about? I wish nothing but the worst possible for them. They are the reason I no longer believe there is good in all people
I don’t want to hurt people who voted for him per say, but god damn do I curse the bastards actively and directly hurting the people I care about.
Same. It’s pathetic. At first it seemed a little noble but not defending yourself after a point so fucking pathetic.
You and I both know the only reason you said that was because there was nothing else you could argue, because I’m right. Correcting someone’s grammar online has been an admission of loss for literally decades. Belligerent, arrogant, and wrong. Get a hobby my dude. This was sad.
Right, it’s two entirely seperate points and trying to say the bubble we are in now means AI is a fad, is like saying the internet was a fad because of the .com bubble. People who think this is just gonna go away need to STFU and move aside, and let people take the time to regulate it properly
You looked through my actual profile and tried to bait me on a completely other topic, stfu 😂 You were wrong, you tried to compensate for your lack of knowledge on a thing rather than argue for yourself, you were dismissive, you tried to back track, I didn’t let you. Your a moron. Go read.
Your tone, combined with your lack of knowledge and critical reading skills once again, makes you the worst type of moron. Go do some reading, then come back. From the jump you were condescending. The original point was it was a fad. That was what my comment responded to. You defended that
It is the topic of discussion, you just don’t know what the hell your talking about and are trying to compensate your lack of knowledge with a bunch of random links that agree with a point you don’t even seem to understand. Not worth my time anymore, your the worst kind of moron. Belligerently wrong
Buddy, I really don’t give a shit about what fortune has to say about the usefulness of a technology because they’re only focused on profitability like you. Of course you find that valid. I don’t. 🤷🏽♂️ Your pounding out sources because most people would say your wrong. Go outside. You’ll figure it out
The longevity of a technology isn’t directly attached to profitability. It’s also attached to usefulness. Your one source is not infinitely better if you are just flat wrong about a thing. Your original point was that AI is a fad. You are disgustingly incorrect
And your wayyyy behind if you think social media is running on basic algorithmic code. It’s been a machine learning system for decades, which weather you want to acknowledge it or not, are a form of AI.
No no, your drawing lines where they don’t exist. Machine learning is a form of AI, it’s just not Artifical Intelligence in a way you yourself would define it. Machine learning has always been AI. You’re wrong, you just are gonna fight to the bitter end
Even ignoring all that, let’s assume he’s right and those are floundering, he acts like this isn’t a pervasive technology the world over EVERYONE is developing, because it’s a tool and utilizing it effectively, in the right ways, is revolutionary. Currently though? A lot of bad
Well to be fair to him that’s not entirely false. It is doing both those things, dependent on who is developing it and what for. People seem to forget the algorithms that literally drive social media and engagement are an AI system. We utilize it constantly just its being refined for unpopular ends
Thanks man 👊 people forget, we all have seperate algorithms trying to actively distract us. No ones is exactly the same. We have to share things, constantly, to stay ahead in the information.
Your unclear why the distinction is relevant because you clearly haven’t read about the applications for AI beyond the things they’re utilized for now. It’s literally like they picked all the worst things for it and said “let’s do all that”. There are applicable uses. That isn’t a debate
And this conversation is honestly over because I don’t really know how to continue discussing a topic with someone who, doesn’t really seem that knowledgeable on it if this is your view 🤷🏽♂️ You sound like the people that said cell phones were a fad, or the internet.
It has no customers because the way they are trying to utilize it is immoral and it’s put a negative taste in people’s mouths, if it’s controlled solely by the wealthy. AI is a tool, the people who are using those tools and developing them are just bad people
You believe this and view it this way is literally a direct result of these rich dipshits who have turned it mainly into “let’s make a fun thing for rich people” or “let’s make it drive engagement for social media so we can sell people’s data”. It’s useful in the right hands, like the internet
The other things you listed had truly no market outside of rich losers with no friends. The only reason you feel this way is because again, it’s being developed by the wrong people. There are practical, real world uses for AI. It’s used in literally so many things already
And then to top it off you got those same type of people that are just older who lie their asses off and pay Florida taxes, but then still seem to end up voting here or at least taking up property and land people who aren’t like them could utilize. Fuckers, all of them.
NJ is only turning purple because of all the rejects from New York moving to the deep red counties on the coast then branching out. I don’t mean the old school New Yorkers who have been here, I mean the new assholes. Come down here and treat everyone else like the dirty poors.
…as simple as it was 20+ years ago. The problem is the wrong people have unfettered access to new technologies that should be used for public good, not profits. Self driving cars aren’t the problem, the people building them are
It’s never going away. Everyone needs to stop acting like it’s a fad or something and just push for clear regulation and limitations. What Musk did was the equivalent of releasing vaccines before human trials, knowing people will die and saying “we’ll use the data to make it better”. Tech isn’t…
And I fully get how insane that sounds but we live in some real crazy times and information is a lot more jumbled but that’s kindve fascism 101. Flood the space, so your opposition can’t form a strong defense in one spot
Seems to have flown under the radar enough, but it definitely happens. People are a lot angrier than most corporate medias showing. You gotta try to sift and find first hand videos of things and vet them. The news is a lot more locked up than most realize I think.
Theyre already shooting at ICE. Do you think when it’s their actual families or themselves that won’t just escalate? Americans are complacent but the way they’re doing all this is way to overt. Let them try 🤷🏽♂️ Americans ignore elections, will they ignore immediate harm and danger? I don’t think so
So glad I’m not the only one who said this. Jersey native, they just had to stop the massive wind project because of this asshole. People lost their livelihoods. My power bill went up. Reasoning? “Well the sonar used in building is bad” Cool, so oil rigs too right?
No wait guys we have an opportunity. They’re going to cease these projects because they’re worried about the whales. Everything they say that could be a concern is also true for oil rigs. No more new oil rigs too then!
Looking for a platform? Jfc all they have to do is say “hey we aren’t the Nazis, and we’re gonna try to stop the Nazis”. It’s that fucking easy. They don’t give a shit. No more dem party, let’s build something new
If your afraid to talk about racism it’s because you are a racist. It may not even be conscious, but if your uncomfortable acknowledging racism, especially systemic racism, it’s because your uncomfortable, and your uncomfortable because your ignorant and don’t know what is right.
I mean they could do all that before Stephen. 🙄 Except now they have the added concern of “don’t look suspicious because there are armed personnel that WILL shoot you”
Sure is gonna go real different for the Nazis this time. Most of us are armed. That’s the thing people don’t seem to understand on the right. They go the Hitler root they think they’re getting the third reich, but it’ll just be another American civil war, because no one’s gonna roll over for them
And I mean a whole plan for governance. If it was up to me, we would build a new constitution using the old one as a guide line, trying to preserve the original national identity but making it healthy. Right now it’s toxic, and ugly, and has led to the death of millions for 200 years
I think hoping for Dems to wake up is a ship that sailed 20+ years ago. Liberals need to build a progressive force (not a party) and just undercut the Dems entirely. We need leaders, and a power structure for when this one collapses because we are full speed running at that
Don’t let the Trump admin see, they’ll drain it, bulldoze it, and put up a concentration camp they’ll have to take down within a few months of building it
The concern I currently have, is the lack of alternative. This, inevitably, will result in revolution, the scale and level of violence is ultimately going to depend on how they try to wrangle control from the public the angrier we are. It’ll collapse. Dems are no where near prepared to govern after
Truly the way I see this going, is they’re going to keep pushing to be more violent and aggressive. They want military in major cities. It’ll be deeply unpopular for all but about 30-40% of the American public, and within that 30-40, about half aren’t going to want to die for him, for sure.
If you use a slur you deserve to be called out. Context of that slur is extremely important in a time period where we’ve backslid so far. I’ll accept Kulinski saying the R word one time, if it means it helps stop fascists from going “let’s round up all the r words”. Is that fair?
You can point it out, but are we about to pretend that a big part of why the country is where it is, is directly a result of liberals having a bad habit of casting people out and infighting (like this) over things that in the wider world end up not mattering long term because we keep losing
Maybe a better example would be the Gaza genocide. A lot of people didn’t vote Harris because of their “morals” but clearly that was a bad call because now it’s worse. Sometimes you have to swallow what you believe is right to make a decision that gets us closer to ok or we just keep backsliding
Absolutely it is, but when literally hundreds of people have already pointed a thing out, and once again there are people that actually hate people like me and think they’re useless, why continue? Why expend energy? Save it for people who need their teeth kicked in for saying it.
Literally save it for the literal fascists. I don’t get how much clearer I can be here. Do you guys have this same energy when the fascists say vile shit constantly? Go hammer people that actually hate the neurodivergent. Do something useful and productive, not just what makes you feel nice
I got a brother who didn’t get help, whose now in the system for life exactly because of what your talking about. You think I’m not emotional or pissed off when I hear the R word? You are entirely missing my point. If you hammer people trying to help for making a mistake, long term that’s worse
I am literally on the spectrum. My best friend is too. Pushback is one thing, it’s good to point out when someone does something wrong, but your not helping your son by weakening the base of people actively doing things to try to help protect him. Period.
Exactly. Yea it’s all about perception, the American people now perceive a clear threat. Sucks it had to get here but that’s what happens when you have an undereducated population
I did answer the question. You’re actively choosing not to acknowledge the fact this is a literal war. Your pretending it’s 20 years ago where this was the main battle. This is a distraction from much larger issues. Obviously the answers yes 🙄 you guys just don’t see the bigger picture
I feel like you guys are completely misconstruing what I’m saying. I’m also autistic. I also hate that word, and I find it offensive but the point I’m trying to make is this is someone who regularly is on our side and has taken definitive actions to fight. The sudden flip on him weakens us.
Look my dude, if he was regularly spouting it off or used it derogatory towards an actual neurodivergent person I’d agree. This is a war against literal Nazis. Picking battles is important and this isn’t one
Yes but when someone who has a long history of doing actual fighting for that group, you don’t get a pass but your allowed to make a mistake. Then it becomes a purity test. The very fact your framing this as “defending dignity” makes it a purity test in this context
And are we smart people? Honestly? Liberals have been shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly, it’s why we’re here, over stupid purity debates like this. Kulinskis been a critic of all this longer than some of us. Why divide the base over one comment beyond stupid purity tests? It’s why were here
Not the point. The point I’m making is, you can do both but getting ugly occasionally is necessary. Im part of the neurodivergent community. I’m not saying it gets a pass, I’m saying this isn’t actually hurting anyone who hasn’t earned it so people need to chill and deal with bigger problems
And before anyone gets any cute ideas that’s not an excuse to just accept objectionable legislation from the past when the majority of people can recognize that it is incorrect or harmful, like in the case of slavery. The rhetoric on the right lately is disturbing, not just objectionable
Right. Your exactly right. There is a big difference between “I don’t agree with these policies and they hurt people but the majority of the country has decided this makes sense.” And “The existing power structure was barely voted in, and largely is harming most people and changing laws”
It’s been functional until Trump, people are just generally under educated. Now could you make the arguement that an undereducated populace makes a democracy non-functional? Yea I suppose, but ultimately that’s the default of civilization, not education.
And as far as realizing it all in 2020 I agree, but again most of his first term to the average person that’s not tuned in, just said “oh that’s just bad policy, not fascism” because until the insurrection itself, it wasn’t in your face enough. Americans are self centered 🤷🏽♂️
Entirely fair! I’m not saying he was not fascist then he was. I’m saying the perception of the American public is finally shifting because initially people could chalk things up to “this is bad policy but we could vote him out” and now it’s overt.
I am once again begging you to remember that "illegal" does not mean "impossible." "Illegal" does not mean "you cannot do that." It means that the government can, but is not required, to impose a penalty upon you if you do it anyway. No more, and no less.
…in a republic of representative government. Here it means “what the majority of us have decided the enforcement structure will enforce, and what we have decided should cease”. We have that power. It also means any who would change the definition of legal without the people, should be removed
Legality only means something to those that do not have the means of enforcement. Illegal means “whoever controls the enforcement structure has deemed this forbidden”. It does not mean ontologically correct, or incorrect. It doesn’t mean it can’t happen as your stating. But it’s a step further…
…is illegal. Every single person involved belongs at The Hague, and after all this the nation of Israel shouldn’t be allowed to have its own army, there should be reparations, sanctions etc but none of that can happen until we deal with the fascists here in the US. Get with the fucking program
If you are the kind of liberal who is still griping about the genocide in Gaza like we wouldn’t be in a better spot, and they wouldn’t maybe be in a better spot, hear this. Trump won key swing states as a direct result of that rhetoric. You did this. Your part of the problem. The genocide in Gaza…
…your actively helping to sow division amongst liberals during a time where we need to build a force. Possibly a militant force. We can do nothing for these people so long as we have this fascist in office. Period. Full stop! It’s worse than it’s ever been! Get with the program.
If you can’t understand the nuance of “genocide is bad but these people are MONUMENTALLY more fucked and so are we here in the US, if we allow a fascist to win” then you are part of why we are here now…(1/2)
It’s literally worse than it’s been. They’re pushing into Gaza and actually taking territory. Are you fucking dumb?
Because here’s the thing, as infuriating as it was to watch us slide into this, slow and painful, we had to uphold some degree of societal normalcy to keep this together if there was any hope of reconciliation. Now? Now there will only be justice and injustice. That’s all they’ve left us with.
Then they went ahead and started taking peoples families, and sending them to camps in other countries. Then they started targeting legislation towards elections. When they started arresting the competition without cause, suspending due process… now we aren’t a democracy. Now is time. Before was not
Well no, here’s the thing man, I’ve hated this man since about 2018. I let a lot go at first, because bad policy is not the same as fascism. His first term there were lots of nods but nothing overtly passed what Americans are used to. Just bad policy. Initially this time? Mainly just bad policy. (1)
You need empathy and language. Empathy and language are important to any cause, and it’s not ok what he said, truly but people are allowed to make a mistake, and they are allowed to be emotional. We need to fight with empathy, but not buy into our own shit to much
Liberal purity tests. Look at all these liberals pissed off he used the R word, while entirely missing what the post was about. It just serves as division points in a group of people that DRASTICALLY need to unify and become a force for good, right now, and instead this is what we worry about?
And they want to send him to Uganda now, and are trying to end this by forcing him to take a deal to be deported to Costa Rica 😑 there should be riots in the street for this man
Whats psychotic here is that enough people are fine with this, it’s accepted. There should be riots in the streets over these things. Worse than that, yet here we are. No real resistance beyond angry people shouting. We need action. We need people willing to protect communities
Bingo. We don’t negotiate with terrorists. Ironically said by another terrorist, but applies here just fine.
Im really happy to see a good number of folks are finally understanding. These people don’t respond to you positively when you kindly ask them to stop harming others. They want not know violence because it’s all they are
Been a handful of instances of people taking pot shots at ICE, and ambushing them. They’ve started quitting the job in droves. Bunch of fucking cowards. When this is over every last one of them belong in jail
There was an entire movement for German immigrants to return to the motherland to fight. Those people should’ve never been allowed back
And I say it’s kinda fiar as someone who has had that word thrown at them a lot over the years for being autistic. I don’t like it, but if I’m honest I’m much more concerned about the Nazi he’s describing
Slurs aren’t ok, but what you have to understand is the term “retarded” like most slurs, wasn’t always a slur. In this context it absolutely is and while I don’t agree, I personally feel that fucking up one time while talking about the most evil people we have, is kinda fair.
I do actually think he, definitionally, fits the word but I also agree we’re at a point in history where it’s become more a slur than the original meaning, so while I agree if I’m honest, the fascists are a lot more pressing an issue than regulating our own speech.
www.foxnews.com/us/florida-a... This is so fucking stupid and a waste of tax payer money. Illegal immigrants can’t get a CDL, they’re just calling anyone not a full citizen “illegal” at this point. Fuck the GOP
Why wait for history to judge them? Why can’t the American people?
