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40-something immigrant in Sweden Things that delight me: disenshittification, ballet, horror, strange dark mindbending art/stories, slow melancholy films, shoegaze, trip hop. Things that disgust me: scrum, licorice, fascism. she/her i guess

created December 15, 2024

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You didn't follow the instructions, damn you are bad

1/9/2025, 4:31:20 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Had a conversation with someone worried about "suicidal empathy" among leftists yesterday

A famous image of a rich person sitting with a pile of hundreds of cookies, a White man in worker's clothes with one cookie and a Black person with no cookie. The rich person is saying
1/9/2025, 2:16:45 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I got told this was confusing because of the speech bubble placement, gonna try again

1/9/2025, 2:11:11 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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But why would it cost more? Without the insurance companies taking billions, surely it would cost less?

1/9/2025, 1:11:53 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Are you saying it would cost more if they stopped funneling billions into insurance companies? That doesn't sound right?

1/9/2025, 12:25:05 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Parental leave, not maternity leave. The dads stay at home with their babies too.

1/9/2025, 12:22:31 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Had a conversation with someone worrying about "suicidal empathy" among leftists yesterday, so...

A famous image of a rich person sitting with a pile of hundreds of cookies, a White man in worker's clothes with one cookie and a Black person with no cookie. The rich person is saying
1/9/2025, 9:55:11 AM | 1 1 | View on Bluesky | view

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Sorry for the nitpick, but they stopped letting developers make any decision whatsoever about 10 years ago. Right about the same time software started to get terrible. I really want people to know this.

1/9/2025, 6:06:29 AM | 18 3 | View on Bluesky | view

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Starting to think the most dangerous people in the world are those who want a "strong leader"

1/9/2025, 5:50:51 AM | 2 1 | View on Bluesky | view

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Graeber claimed that Bush and Trump intentionally pretend to be stupid in order to bait the left into making fun of their stupidity - which makes right wing voters feel attacked and like they are the ones being made fun of by elitist know-it-alls. Huh. đŸ€” www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9af...

31/8/2025, 10:17:11 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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If you take pride in being asleep, why should anyone listen to you?

31/8/2025, 6:40:44 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Millions of years of human history where people could romantically attach to who they want and everyone in the community would make sure that all the kids thrive. How did we mess that up so badly?

30/8/2025, 10:09:33 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I will always fight against an economic system or social structure that: * Forcibly positions men as "providers" * Forces women to choose a man based on his "provider" status if she wants her children to thrive Men, women and children all suffer from having this crap forced on them.

30/8/2025, 10:07:18 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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My favourite was in the show Real Humans. There was plot about some special secret code that would make robots become conscious and aware, and the code was just doing a currency conversion.

30/8/2025, 5:46:04 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Weird trick to clear homeless encampments: give them homes

30/8/2025, 5:09:17 PM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Guy on the right baked all the cookies. Guy on the left farmed all the ingredients. Guy in the middle does nothing but take.

29/8/2025, 4:17:12 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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This was actually one of the things that surprised me when I started reading about fascists in history. How often fascist leaders will throw their most loyal and valuable followers to the wolves.

29/8/2025, 4:14:58 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I don't think those things would make me feel safe. What would make me feel safe is if none of the above was necessary

29/8/2025, 3:28:33 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Like for example making schools a safe place

29/8/2025, 3:18:30 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Åh sĂ„ glad att lĂ€sa denna! đŸ˜»

28/8/2025, 3:53:34 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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How wonderful, congratulations!

28/8/2025, 3:48:55 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Hoarding

What's considered trashy if you're poor, but classy if you're rich?
27/8/2025, 6:50:19 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Wait this isn't satire?

27/8/2025, 3:22:19 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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You also said that you care what happens in your own country. Imperialists do not keep themselves neatly contained in one little area.

27/8/2025, 3:05:44 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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When have imperialists ever done a genocide in one place, and then destroyed all that weaponry, dismantled all that military and decided they had done enough?

27/8/2025, 2:51:21 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Even if you don't care about anyone else, have you not heard of "First they came for...."

27/8/2025, 2:46:17 PM | 10 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I have multiple follow-up questions and they are all what the fuck

27/8/2025, 6:02:23 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Who is funding this study and what is their conflict of interest statement

26/8/2025, 12:46:16 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Also a valid interpretation! I personally saw it as a metaphor for her sorting out all her feelings in her head. Brutally cutting some people out of her life when necessary. Just ripping apart the image of them she has in her head and letting it die.

24/8/2025, 10:33:10 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I actually do see Midsommar as a Good for Her movie, but that's because I interpret it as allegory rather than a telling of events literally occurring

24/8/2025, 8:23:37 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I hadn't heard of the concept of "Good for her" as a genre. Thank you for prompting me to search for it!

24/8/2025, 5:50:35 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Some people see "wealth" and think "Ah, so that's what this system would do with the money from someone's paycheque." Others would see "wealth" and think "Ah, so that's what this system would do with means of production like factories." This chart needs to be clear about which one it means.

24/8/2025, 4:30:19 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Anyone asking the ICE thugs what their defense will be when the USA has its version of the Nuremberg trials later? Are they aware that "I was just following orders" doesn't work?

24/8/2025, 1:27:29 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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It might help if we had more stories where the protagonist genuinely is trying to do good in the best possible way, but the system is so messed up that there is no good option. There are some, but not enough. Usually the hero's conflict is something hindering them from doing The Right Thing.

24/8/2025, 9:31:51 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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And then some people don't seem to see the very concept of there being a system that influences people's choices and behaviour. They see everything as individual actions made in a vacuum.

24/8/2025, 8:20:20 AM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I'm working on this myself. One thing I'm doing to develop this skill is playing stressful board games and card games. Bluffing games like Coup or Poker (w/o real money). That way I can practice keeping calm without any real life stakes.

23/8/2025, 9:00:01 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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A problem I don't see bsky having solved is how heated conflict (or "drama" as they call it) brings attention to a creator. Which incentivizes creators to intentionally stir up heated conflicts. I don't have a great solution for it. I hope someone is working on one.

23/8/2025, 8:54:28 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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But it's August

22/8/2025, 2:58:58 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Good video, but should be preceded by a scene of the two guys on the left baking all the cookies while the capitalist sits around doing nothing but receiving cookies.

22/8/2025, 8:38:50 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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This is such a huge problem. The number of people who are furious about things like "toxic masculinity" or "critical race theory" or "communism," and it's immediately obvious they haven't taken 15 minutes to look up what any of those things mean.

21/8/2025, 1:21:27 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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What? No way! It's literally river horse in Swedish. I didn't know it was in English too!

20/8/2025, 10:18:56 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Also Madison as a first name before the movie Splash

20/8/2025, 7:11:16 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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This is a fun and interesting attempt to at least get a solid overview of what happens when you go to a website. Though of course no one can fully understand the whole process as you say :-D github.com/alex/what-ha...

20/8/2025, 6:53:25 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Rage Against the Machine played live on the BBC. BBC told them they couldn't swear though. Guess what, they ended up singing "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me."

20/8/2025, 6:45:28 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Lord of the Flies basically happened in real life, except the castaways co-operated with each other in order to survive and did not descend into violence

20/8/2025, 6:25:06 AM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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A pirate captain in 1718 attacked and boarded a ship just to steal all the sailors' hats because everyone on his ship had gotten drunk and thrown their hats overboard the night before

20/8/2025, 6:22:51 AM | 13 2 | View on Bluesky | view

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Strippers made Def Leppard famous

20/8/2025, 6:21:49 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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The African American slang of addressing each other as "man" was a rebellion against racists addressing them as "boy"

20/8/2025, 6:20:43 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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There are vegetarian spiders

20/8/2025, 6:17:49 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Feminist activists invented letter bombs

20/8/2025, 6:17:34 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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None of the titles adress a real problem a developer would have. They must be using LLMs to come up with the idea for the videos too.

19/8/2025, 6:18:02 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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"Nearly eight in ten companies report using gen AI—yet just as many report no significant bottom-line impact." Hahahahahahahahahaha 😂

18/8/2025, 8:48:00 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Love how you framed the photo!

18/8/2025, 5:44:36 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Who is trying to do this? I can't find any news about it.

18/8/2025, 5:33:22 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I'm middle-aged, can't drive, and no intention of ever learning. Feet, bike, bus, train and the occasional taxi or delivery service are all I need.

17/8/2025, 9:12:24 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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But it's the other way around. Our interests are created by whether we think zero sum or positive sum. A positive sum thinker who is a part of the dominant social group will advocate for policies that dismantle oppression because they believe it will make everyone better off.

16/8/2025, 1:48:58 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Hmm, they didn't test for zero-sum mindset, just oppression awareness. "If one ethnic group becomes richer, this generally comes at the expense of other groups in the country." A zero-sum thinkier would say it *must* come at the expense of other groups, not that it does in the current conditions.

16/8/2025, 1:08:40 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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This is capitalism. Communism is when citizens decide democratically what work we do and what happens to the goods and services produced by our work. Capitalism is when people who own the most decide what work we do and what happens to the goods and services produced by our work.

15/8/2025, 11:21:50 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Ja, visst. :) Alla vÄra tankar och kÀnslor Àr kemiska aktiviteter. Men det har funnits en myt att dessa kemikalier har nivÄer som Àr "balanserade" och att depression hÀnder nÀr de Àr "obalanserade." Det stÀmmer inte.

15/8/2025, 9:04:17 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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VetenskapsmÀn Àr dock överens om att "kemisk obalans" Àr en myt. Oavsett om depression klassificeras som en sjukdom eller ej, finns det ingen korrekt nivÄ som skulle anses som "balanserad." lakartidningen.se/debatt-och-b...

15/8/2025, 9:49:44 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Det Àr en kontroversiell Äsikt att det Àr en sjukdom. Vissa vetenskapsmÀn tror att det Àr en naturlig respons till utanförskap, övergrepp, fattigdom, mm och att förstahandsval av behandling ska vara att ta reda pÄ vilka Àndringar i mans liv man skulle mÄ bÀttre av.

15/8/2025, 9:43:35 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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En studie visar att reklam spelade en stor roll med att sprida myten om kemisk obalans. Var tror du att myten kommer ifrÄn? pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...

15/8/2025, 9:33:03 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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The year isn't over

13/8/2025, 8:10:15 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Who pissed you off at a sporting event

13/8/2025, 6:15:11 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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The guy who made the mistake got really apologetic and ashamed, and the other guy comforted him so it was actually pretty wholesome

13/8/2025, 1:11:42 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Hahaha I remember a guy on The Pirate Bay getting really mad that people were commenting in Swedish, saying "This is America, we speak English"

13/8/2025, 1:10:11 PM | 20 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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I'm really sorry that my fellow leftists called you names. Not very solidarity of them. I have a lot of criticism for this article, but I don't want to pile on when you've just dealt with all of that. You are very smart and that's why I enjoy your stuff even though I am opposed to your politics

12/8/2025, 8:37:20 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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False scarcity turns people into monsters

12/8/2025, 4:53:00 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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It is such an act of bravery when a man shows himself as soft and sensitive despite all these dudebros who bully him for it. The dudebros are too weak and cowardly to acknowledge it.

12/8/2025, 4:29:31 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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My entire life I've seen feminists accused of hysteria and overreacting for saying this is what's behind the masks of powerful figures. So many people owe so many apologies to so many feminists now that the mask is off and the past several decades of feminists have been proven to be correct.

12/8/2025, 4:19:24 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Politicians who refuse to do any of the above want us to believe they care so much about child abuse that they have to read all our personal communication so they can protect children?

12/8/2025, 8:51:47 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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- Train doctors and teachers to spot the signs - School counselors who are experts in what children need to feel safe reporting - Criminalize enablers - Children's rights over parents' rights - (Most important) A strong system to respond to reports w/o making the child's life worse after a report

12/8/2025, 8:50:20 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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EU politicians say they must surveil all your communication to stop child abuse. This is theater while they do nothing that would stop child abuse. Most abuse is committed by someone close to the child, happens at home, and would not be revealed in a chat. Actual measures to stop child abuse: đŸ§”

12/8/2025, 8:46:39 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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It means they are saving the other two weeks of yearly vacation to have at another time (usually in December) instead of having all 6 weeks of vacation at once

12/8/2025, 6:47:21 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Oh wow the vitriol from Candidate 3. They're just as bad as Candidate 1.

11/8/2025, 9:53:06 PM | 219 2 | View on Bluesky | view

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That attitude also just plays into their "divide and conquer" strategy. If we bicker over which marginalized groups get to have rights and which we are willing to sacrifice, then we have lost solidarity. We win human rights for all by banding together.

8/8/2025, 11:42:02 AM | 32 3 | View on Bluesky | view

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Don't kink shame him

5/8/2025, 11:13:43 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Agree, I'm anti-state and against central planning. But that's a separate topic. You haven't answered the question.

5/8/2025, 10:12:53 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Ah, you don't want workers to own the means of production because you don't want those means of production to exist. Valid. Not my goal, but still valid. But how would workers owning the means of production be directly contrary to eliminating coercive hierarchies?

5/8/2025, 1:08:12 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Lol, I'm already an anarcho-communist. Don't tell me you're an ancap. Suddenly everything you've said would make sense. The four times communism has been tried are the Paris Commune, Catalonia, Rojava, and possibly CherĂĄn. None were authoritarian, or by definition they would not be communism.

5/8/2025, 12:52:24 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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"Where did you get “communism must never be attempted,” You literally said it was authoritarian. That's the whole argument we've been having

5/8/2025, 12:41:42 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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It's a bit silly to expect me, one person, to single-handedly plan all of society. We're envisioning what a fair society would look like. You could have brainstormed with us what it would look like, or how to achieve it peacefully. Instead you attacked with nonsensical accusations you can't explain.

5/8/2025, 12:39:52 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Also, you are once again implying that the status quo must always be defended no matter what it is, because you can only imagine change happening through violence.

5/8/2025, 12:29:09 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Hundreds of thousands of battles over land happen in feudalism and capitalism, but in *one* of those one guy promised he might one day implement communism, but never did. Therefore you conclude that communism must never be attempted. That's pretty darned farfetched.

5/8/2025, 12:27:35 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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How is that relevant? Are you saying that bloodshed was caused by farmers owning their own farms? It was the opposite, it was caused by an elite group of people owning farms and taking all the wealth created by the workers - the same conditions as capitalism.

5/8/2025, 12:18:35 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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You haven't voiced a concern. You just keep repeating that it's authoritarian to dismantle authoritarianism. I have asked you to explain and you refuse. Please tell me why farmers owning a farm, deciding how they work and what to do with the crops is authoritarian. I'm listening. /genuine

5/8/2025, 12:08:04 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Well yeah when you've spent the whole time telling me to stop trying to picture a world where we are free from the current authoritarianism, unless I can 100% guarantee that any attempt to create that world wouldn't set off a bizarre chain of events that makes something bad happen

4/8/2025, 11:48:42 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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So you're against the very concept of change? No matter how dystopian or authoritarian a system is, even if it is causing genocide and extinction, the status quo must always be defended? Because any change of any kind has a chance of being corrupted? You realize that incentivizes authoritarianism?

4/8/2025, 11:39:23 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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If I knew how to take down global superpowers and give the power to the people, I would have already done so. But the question is moot at this stage. First we need to agree on a vision of what society we want before discussing how. No point in fighting until we know what we're fighting for.

4/8/2025, 8:10:04 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Neither of those have implemented communism. Workers did not own the means of production in either. Those are two countries whose leaders claimed they would one day implement communism and have not done so. Also, capitalism's death count is off the charts.

4/8/2025, 8:06:28 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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So when you said "Communism isn't good," you actually meant "Communism is very good but I personally can only imagine one possible way of making it happen and that one way would be bad"? That's definitely not a clear way to communicate.

4/8/2025, 5:56:07 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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These are two separate issues: 1) What communism could be like once fully implemented 2) What we would need to do to be able to implement it The discussion has now moved on to the second issue

4/8/2025, 5:53:09 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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Of course not. How to dismantle power is an extremely hard problem. But none of the arguments in this thread were about how to seize power to be able to implement it. You guys just now started talking about that.

4/8/2025, 5:49:51 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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But he didn't mention how it will be practiced, he mentioned how we would seize enough power to be able to start implementing it. If you want to say something about how it would be practiced, then you will need to make a new argument. Again, why would we be "evenly distributing wealth"?

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Profile picture gini in a bottle (@citation-needed.bsky.social) reply parent

I was trying so hard for so long to tell my colleagues that we needed unions and it was dismissed as nonsense. I wish I had been wrong. :-(

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Profile picture gini in a bottle (@citation-needed.bsky.social) reply parent

Thank you for helping me switch from adversarial discussion to finding common ground ❀

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Profile picture gini in a bottle (@citation-needed.bsky.social) reply parent

I agree about effort to explain, but I believe that the reason for that is that we are fighting propaganda. I no longer believe welfare concessions within capitalism are sustainable. The power is still concentrated, but the people just got thrown a few bones, which can easily be lost again.

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Profile picture gini in a bottle (@citation-needed.bsky.social) reply parent

Aha! So your worry isn't communism itself, but that our attempts to create it will be co-opted. 100% agree that's a hard problem! But I also think that creating a vision of the future is the first step to solving that hard problem. I'm not convinced that an army is the only way.

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Profile picture gini in a bottle (@citation-needed.bsky.social) reply parent

You too, and you're saying a lot of stuff that I used to say. I used to think Sweden's model was the answer.

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Profile picture gini in a bottle (@citation-needed.bsky.social) reply parent

I agree. Sometimes people are purely bad actors and cannot be reasoned with. I am not convinced that is the case here and I'm not prepared to jump to that conclusion so easily.

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